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| So, I see we have no concensus for moving the article. Fine. Let's discuss this then. Ghirlandajo cites some elaborate guidelines for naming articles about royalty. Care to point me as to where they are? As far as I can tell, even Russian ]s don't have that title indicated in their article titles (], ] etc.) Why should Grand Dukes be superior? Also, what is wrong with Russian Misplaced Pages that it simply titles this article Constantine Pavlovich? ] 17:49, 4 May 2006 (UTC) | So, I see we have no concensus for moving the article. Fine. Let's discuss this then. Ghirlandajo cites some elaborate guidelines for naming articles about royalty. Care to point me as to where they are? As far as I can tell, even Russian ]s don't have that title indicated in their article titles (], ] etc.) Why should Grand Dukes be superior? Also, what is wrong with Russian Misplaced Pages that it simply titles this article Constantine Pavlovich? ] 17:49, 4 May 2006 (UTC) | ||
| :Hmmm. ] notes that it covers '''Western''' nobility, but may be applicable. I don't think that the issue is related to ]. Let's wait for Ghirla to enlighten us about the specific policy he is relying upon.--] <sup><font color="green">]</font></sup> 19:17, 4 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
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POV
The following fragment is a laughable POV: "the great champion of the Poles. His love for a Polish woman cost him the Russian crown." For reasons why, see references that I recently added, for example, this (which seems to be written by a Russian, too). As Balcer pointed out, the Britannica article is almost a 100 years old, uses even older, imperial Russia references and thus should not be considered NPOV when it comes to Poland. In addition, Ghirla's revert, which removed my reference as well as copyedit changes (adding caption, removing empty section, etc.), is borderline 'v'-word - please refrain from such blatant reverts, and discuss your POV here first, preferably citing modern academic sources.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 16:01, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
Article name
So, I see we have no concensus for moving the article. Fine. Let's discuss this then. Ghirlandajo cites some elaborate guidelines for naming articles about royalty. Care to point me as to where they are? As far as I can tell, even Russian Tsars don't have that title indicated in their article titles (Nicholas II of Russia, Alexander III of Russia etc.) Why should Grand Dukes be superior? Also, what is wrong with Russian Misplaced Pages that it simply titles this article Constantine Pavlovich? Balcer 17:49, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
- Hmmm. Misplaced Pages:Naming_conventions_(names_and_titles) notes that it covers Western nobility, but may be applicable. I don't think that the issue is related to Misplaced Pages:Transliteration of Russian into English. Let's wait for Ghirla to enlighten us about the specific policy he is relying upon.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 19:17, 4 May 2006 (UTC)