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:::::::::That doesn't say that two edits that are the same count as two reverts. It says "A "revert" means any edit (or administrative action) that reverses the actions of other editors, in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material" - so it looks like I made an edit, then you reversed it (that is one revert for you) and I reversed your action - that is one revert for me. I really don't get it. What am i missing? ] (]) 15:10, 21 October 2012 (UTC) | :::::::::That doesn't say that two edits that are the same count as two reverts. It says "A "revert" means any edit (or administrative action) that reverses the actions of other editors, in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material" - so it looks like I made an edit, then you reversed it (that is one revert for you) and I reversed your action - that is one revert for me. I really don't get it. What am i missing? ] (]) 15:10, 21 October 2012 (UTC) | ||
:::::::::: Sigh. Your first edit was revering another editor. (=1RR). Your second revert was reverting me. (=2RR). Look, since I am apparently just unable to explain this to you, I will now report you -in the hope that other editors can explain it better. Cheers, ] (]) 15:27, 21 October 2012 (UTC) | :::::::::: Sigh. Your first edit was revering another editor. (=1RR). Your second revert was reverting me. (=2RR). Look, since I am apparently just unable to explain this to you, I will now report you -in the hope that other editors can explain it better. Cheers, ] (]) 15:27, 21 October 2012 (UTC) | ||
*Dixy flyer, 1RR parallels ] - it just means more than 1 instead of more than 3. The ''safest'' way to think of it is any change you make to the article within a 24-hour period counts as a revert. If you make several changes in a row without an intervening edit by another editor, that counts as only one revert. The policy is a bit more complicated than that, but if you think of it the way I'm explaining it, without getting into certain nuances, you shouldn't be blocked for a technical breach. Taking into account your newness and your willingness to discuss the issue, I am going to decline the report at ]. However, any future breach, even if based on ignorance, will not be excused. If you still have trouble understanding the policy, you're welcome to come to my talk page to discuss it further.--] (]) 16:11, 21 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
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prior accounts and 1RR
Have you ever used a prior account on Misplaced Pages? Also, you have violated the 1RR at Qibya. Self-revert or I will report the violation. nableezy - 00:32, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
- No, and what is 1RR?Dixy flyer (talk) 00:35, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
- Look at the top of Talk:Qibya, ---Huldra (talk) 09:40, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
- Thx for putting that up. I think i understand the restriction, but I don't think I've violated it. I only reverted you once yesterday. I also explained why - can you address that, in the new section I started? Dixy flyer (talk) 14:28, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
- No, you made the same edit twice, at 19:56, 20 October 2012: and at 20:24, 20 October 2012: . When you have self-reverted (ie followed the rules), we can start discussing the edit. Huldra (talk) 14:46, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, I made the same edit twice - which means there is one revert back to my version. Is that not how reverts are counted? Dixy flyer (talk) 14:48, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
- Nope, that is not the way it is counted: read 1RR -rules. If you do not self-revert at once, I will report you.Enough time spent on this already. Huldra (talk) 14:56, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
- I did read the 1RR rules after you posted them, and thanked you for that. But I don;t see where they say that making the same edit twice is two reverts. Maybe I missed where it says that. Just point me to it and I'll change it - there's really no need for your hostile tone. Dixy flyer (talk) 14:59, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
- Misplaced Pages:Three-revert_rule#The_three-revert_rule. This will be my last posting here; the best way to make you understand the rules is apparently to report you. Cheers, Huldra (talk) 15:06, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
- That doesn't say that two edits that are the same count as two reverts. It says "A "revert" means any edit (or administrative action) that reverses the actions of other editors, in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material" - so it looks like I made an edit, then you reversed it (that is one revert for you) and I reversed your action - that is one revert for me. I really don't get it. What am i missing? Dixy flyer (talk) 15:10, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
- Sigh. Your first edit was revering another editor. (=1RR). Your second revert was reverting me. (=2RR). Look, since I am apparently just unable to explain this to you, I will now report you -in the hope that other editors can explain it better. Cheers, Huldra (talk) 15:27, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
- That doesn't say that two edits that are the same count as two reverts. It says "A "revert" means any edit (or administrative action) that reverses the actions of other editors, in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material" - so it looks like I made an edit, then you reversed it (that is one revert for you) and I reversed your action - that is one revert for me. I really don't get it. What am i missing? Dixy flyer (talk) 15:10, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
- Misplaced Pages:Three-revert_rule#The_three-revert_rule. This will be my last posting here; the best way to make you understand the rules is apparently to report you. Cheers, Huldra (talk) 15:06, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
- I did read the 1RR rules after you posted them, and thanked you for that. But I don;t see where they say that making the same edit twice is two reverts. Maybe I missed where it says that. Just point me to it and I'll change it - there's really no need for your hostile tone. Dixy flyer (talk) 14:59, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
- Nope, that is not the way it is counted: read 1RR -rules. If you do not self-revert at once, I will report you.Enough time spent on this already. Huldra (talk) 14:56, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, I made the same edit twice - which means there is one revert back to my version. Is that not how reverts are counted? Dixy flyer (talk) 14:48, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
- No, you made the same edit twice, at 19:56, 20 October 2012: and at 20:24, 20 October 2012: . When you have self-reverted (ie followed the rules), we can start discussing the edit. Huldra (talk) 14:46, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
- Thx for putting that up. I think i understand the restriction, but I don't think I've violated it. I only reverted you once yesterday. I also explained why - can you address that, in the new section I started? Dixy flyer (talk) 14:28, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
- Look at the top of Talk:Qibya, ---Huldra (talk) 09:40, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
- Dixy flyer, 1RR parallels WP:3RR - it just means more than 1 instead of more than 3. The safest way to think of it is any change you make to the article within a 24-hour period counts as a revert. If you make several changes in a row without an intervening edit by another editor, that counts as only one revert. The policy is a bit more complicated than that, but if you think of it the way I'm explaining it, without getting into certain nuances, you shouldn't be blocked for a technical breach. Taking into account your newness and your willingness to discuss the issue, I am going to decline the report at WP:ANEW. However, any future breach, even if based on ignorance, will not be excused. If you still have trouble understanding the policy, you're welcome to come to my talk page to discuss it further.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:11, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
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Notice of Palestine-Israel article sanctions
As a result of an arbitration case, the Arbitration Committee has acknowledged long-term and persistent problems in the editing of articles related to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, broadly understood. As a result, the Committee has enacted broad editing restrictions, described here and below.
- Any uninvolved administrator may, on his or her own discretion, impose sanctions on any editor working in the area of conflict if, despite being warned, that editor repeatedly or seriously fails to adhere to the purpose of Misplaced Pages, any expected standards of behavior, or any normal editorial process.
- The sanctions imposed may include blocks of up to one year in length; bans from editing any page or set of pages within the area of conflict; bans on any editing related to the topic or its closely related topics; restrictions on reverts or other specified behaviors; or any other measures which the imposing administrator believes are reasonably necessary to ensure the smooth functioning of the project.
- Prior to any sanctions being imposed, the editor in question shall be given a warning with a link to this decision; and, where appropriate, should be counseled on specific steps that he or she can take to improve his or her editing in accordance with relevant policies and guidelines.
- Discretionary sanctions imposed under the provisions of this decision may be appealed to the imposing administrator, the appropriate administrators' noticeboard (currently WP:AE), or the Committee.
These editing restrictions may be applied to any editor for cause, provided the editor has been previously informed of the case. This message is to so inform you. This message does not necessarily mean that your current editing has been deemed a problem; this is a template message crafted to make it easier to notify any user who has edited the topic of the existence of these sanctions.
Generally, the next step, if an administrator feels your conduct on pages in this topic area is disruptive, would be a warning, to be followed by the imposition of sanctions (although in cases of serious disruption, the warning may be omitted). Hopefully no such action will be necessary.
This notice is only effective if given by an uninvolved administrator and logged here.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:01, 21 October 2012 (UTC)