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WP:MMA

Thanks for helping to make MMA articles on wikipedia better! In September 168 people made a total of 956 edits to MMA articles. I noticed you haven't listed yourself on the WikiProject Mixed martial arts Participants page. Take a look, sign up, and don't forget to say hi on the talk page.

Welcome to WP:MMA

Wow! 15 new members in October! Welcome CarlosB2709, ComputerJA, De132Wiki, Dolson94, I remember halloween, Miufus, MMAcleanup, Onebadtown, Poison Whiskey, Rissx, RonSigPi, Stewwie, TheAmazingChandler, Willdawg111, and WilsonFiskUFC. Posting this to your talk pages and PW:MMA Talk page. This month we have a survey for new and existing members, What is the number 1 thing you do to make MMA articles better? Kevlar (talk) 21:21, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Julian 'Nitrane' Lane

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A tag has been placed on Julian 'Nitrane' Lane, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Misplaced Pages. This has been done under section G4 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a deletion debate, such as at articles for deletion. Under the specified criteria, where an article has substantially identical content to that of an article deleted after debate, and any changes in the content do not address the reasons for which the material was previously deleted, it may be deleted at any time.

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you should explain everything succinctly and eloquently to the blackkite admin fella who deleted it. Then if that doesn't work use the appeal process. i dropped you a note on my talk page. PortlandOregon97217 (talk) 21:57, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

PortlandOregon97217 (talk · contribs)

Hi there. I don't believe we met. Let me just apologize in advance for the somewhat brusque message I've just left at User talk:PortlandOregon97217#Removal of comments and Afd from a banned user. I assure you that I have nothing against you personally, but I'm worried that if PO heeds your advice, he'll get himself blocked. So please forgive me if I've offended you in any way, but I really felt I needed to make it clear that your comment did not negate Bwilkins' warning. Discrediting your remarks seemed like the least of all possible evils. — Francophonie&Androphilie 06:00, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

I think you interpreted what I was saying wrong. I was actually trying to do the opposite. Just in case he took it the same way that you did, I went back and clarified it.Willdawg111 (talk) 08:00, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for clearing that up. There's a fine line between a "there, there" to an editor on thin ice, and an endorsement of their actions; I'm glad to see you're on the right side of that line. Incidentally, you might want to check out WP:AN#personal attack, as it's about a response to the barnstar you left Portland. Even more incidentally, it's always nice to meet another editor in good standing who's been blocked - this userbox might amuse you. — Francophonie&Androphilie 01:17, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

I can't figure out what that was. People are giving out barnstars to editors that are having to be permantly banned, so I really don't understand why there is an issue with me wanting to recognize somebody who I believe is working for the best interest of the project. Willdawg111 (talk) 01:55, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

I agree, he's doing a good job with WP:TUF, but it was too early to give out a barnstar IMO. Regards. --LlamaAl (talk) 02:00, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

I think he is working hard to help move the project in a positive direction. There are a couple barnstars I've noticed given to people who I think in no way shape or form deserves it also, but I was respectful and stayed out of it. Willdawg111 (talk) 02:06, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

I guess you are talking about JonnyBonesJones (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). He was fair and helpful before November. I will remove that barnstar. --LlamaAl (talk) 02:10, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

There was more than one that I had in mind, but really I don't care about that. It's somebodies personal opinion how good of job somebody else is doing, and it's none of my business. I'm really at the point, that I just want all the BS to stop, and want to try to build a good reference for people to rely on for MMA information. If I wanted to argue MMA I would go hang out on the forums. Can we just find a happy medium on issues, something that everybody can live with and will make everybody satisfied?Willdawg111 (talk) 02:47, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Help Links and personal reference list

This is just links and information put on my talk page that I want to save while keeping my talk page clean

• Misplaced Pages:New contributors' help page
• Misplaced Pages:Article wizard
• sandbox
• WP:DRV Black Kite (talk)
• use {{afd top}} and {{afd bottom}} to close non-controversial AfD's
• Twinkle makes the AfD proccess very easy
• Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion
• WP:NMMA
• WP:GNG
• policies and guidelines
• WP:REFUND)
• Misplaced Pages:Too soon
• Misplaced Pages:Recentism
• WP:TUF PortlandOregon97217 (talk)
• WP:REALITYSTAR

MMA notability proposal Work in Progress

I'm working on laying out details for a proposal to put before the MMA project to create a point system of notability. Please DO NOT change anything in this section. If you wish to contribute ideas, please do so, I want to hear what people think, however, please create another section below for that. Thanks.

To obtain Notability as a MMA fighter, the person must accumulate 1,000 points. To get the points, the person doesn't have to win the fight, just participate. For whatever reason, sometime fights do not get recorded into the record books, in which case, all the fighter would need is a reliable source to prove the fight took place. Not having the required points would not negate possible notability for other sports or entertainment.

1,000 points

• UFC Championship fights

750 Points

• UFC main card fight (Zuffa era only)

500 points

• UFC undercard fights (Zuffa era)
• UFC (pre-Zuffa era)
• Pride FC

250 points

• Ultimate Fighter contests (does not include finale)
• Bellator
• Shooto
• Strikeforce
• Affliction
• Dream
• WEC
• Invicta FC

150 Points (ammatuer fights for these organizations do not count)

• Fighting Rings
• World Victory Road
• M-1 Global
• King of the Cage
• One FC
• Pancrase
• Elite XC

100 points (amatuer fights for these organizations do not count)

• BAMMA
• Cage Warriors
• Deep
• Jungle Fight
• Bad Breed
• Konfrontacja Satuk Walki
• Maximum Fighting Championship
• Shark Fights
• Ultimate Challenge MMA
• Universal Reality Compbat Championship
• NAAFS
• Cage Rage Championships
• Palace Fighting Championship
• Tachi Palace Fights
• WSOF

50 Points (ammatuer fights do not count)

• All organizations not listed above

Willdawg111 (talk) 07:26, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

comments

So amateur fights don't count in general?

I was thinking this looks nice. If a particular UFC fight was replayed on the main broadcast (and sources can be found to confirm) I think it should count as a main card fight for points purposes.

You are breaking my heart not putting Pride on equal footing with the UFC. I also think TPF/PFC should be worth more. I went on a rant about it on the mma project talk page a little while ago. I also think Sengoku/WVR and EliteXC should be bumped up to the strikeforce catagory. THey put on some big fights. While might be a little outdated, it shows that EliteXC was getting half decent ratings on primetime. Although I do think that no amount of fights with deep, jungle fight, or naafs is enough to make someone notable without the third party sources to support them. Once you hit eliteXC's current level (still think it should be higher). I'm not familiar with Invicta to comment on them. nice start, its good to see people shaking things up. PortlandOregon97217 (talk) 21:05, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

I believe that ammy fights are just for learning and experience. It's something that can be discussed, but I'm pretty sure people aren't going to want to include them. I put Pride and pre-zuffa UFC at the same level which isn't quite as notable as Zuffa UFC. Those guys were doing MMA before MMA was even a sport. They would do multiple fights in one night, they didn't have the rules that made it a cedible sport. Not to mention, the fan base back then was small compared to what it is now. I'm a huge supporter of fighters like Coleman and Randleman, but they just don't carry the same notability as current champions do. I just did it as a starting place, it's going to be open to the consensus, so wherever everybody wants to go with it is what we can do. To me, Elite XC lacked credibility. Gary Shaw was being investigated criminially for paying somebody to not take the fight to the ground against Kimbo. They did get some good ratings, so if most people agree they should get more notability, lets move them up. Invicta FC was started about a year ago by a former UFC/KOTC executive. Bellator, Srikeforce, and now the UFC were putting on a select few female fights, but they have emerged as the go to place for female MMA. There event on Jan. 5th is going to be a PPV event. They are quickly on their way to being a top tier promotion for women's MMA. I think some of there fights are available free on youtube, if anybody is unfamiliar with them, I encourage you to check them out. They have yet to put on anything less than an exciting and well done show.Willdawg111 (talk) 22:42, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Hey, as you can see the way of knockouts is show on the bar. http://en.wikipedia.org/The_Ultimate_Fighter:_Team_Carwin_vs._Team_Nelson_Finale — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheAmazingChandler (talk • contribs) 02:17, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

That's been changed. We had the old table and 2 new tables suggested and #2 had the most votes, which is the way I'm doing them.Willdawg111 (talk) 02:24, 30 December 2012 (UTC)