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Just to inform that I have reported you for edit warring. You can find details on the notification on Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. You cannot revert sourced edits without a reason. Please note a discussion has been proposed on the talk page but you diserted it.--] (]) 19:13, 28 October 2013 (UTC) Just to inform that I have reported you for edit warring. You can find details on the notification on Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. You cannot revert sourced edits without a reason. Please note a discussion has been proposed on the talk page but you diserted it.--] (]) 19:13, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
:I've protected the article for now. Please discuss your complaints on the article's talk page. ] (]) 20:16, 28 October 2013 (UTC) :I've protected the article for now. Please discuss your complaints on the article's talk page. ] (]) 20:16, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
::The problem there is Silvio1973's lack of English skills. I have conversed with the user at ''immense'' length, and I'm afraid that (by my own personal estimate) he simply does not possess the understanding of English required for the sort of complicated discussion such a controversial issue engenders. Neither can he often fully understand the very sources he attempts to cite in support of his position (and usually interprets them in-line with a strong pro-Italian bias). Either that, or this is one ''hell'' of a case of deliberate ], but I'm somewhat less convinced of that possibility.

::To be sure, the user can read and post intelligible posts when he really makes the effort, but usually, as the discussion goes on, the exchange, unsatisfactory to begin with, deteriorates further and further in terms of understanding (presumably as the user gets tired of writing and making-out English).

::There are other concerns as well. The user is also consistently dishonest in his sourcing, and has been caught misquoting references on about half-dozen times. He doesn't understand ] and refuses to abide by it, etc.

::I hope you can appreciate my position. I'm sort of caught between "a rock and a hard place", as it were. On the one hand I can not just stand by and let the user go through with low-quality, biased edits, often fraudulently sourced - yet on the other I'd rather have ''my nails ripped out'' than try to discuss with him again (if you'll pardon the gruesome mental image). As I said, I've already written ''volumes'' of text to make no real progress. <font face="Eras Bold ITC">-- ] <span style="color:#464646">(])</span></font> 21:11, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

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Information icon Hello, I'm Jingiby. I noticed that you reverted my changes to the article Kingdom of Yugoslavia, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It (the revert) has been removed for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! See also article's talk-page and provided academic sources. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Jingiby (talk) 15:05, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

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Edit warring on Istrian Exodus

Just to inform that I have reported you for edit warring. You can find details on the notification on Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. You cannot revert sourced edits without a reason. Please note a discussion has been proposed on the talk page but you diserted it.--Silvio1973 (talk) 19:13, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

I've protected the article for now. Please discuss your complaints on the article's talk page. Mark Arsten (talk) 20:16, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
The problem there is Silvio1973's lack of English skills. I have conversed with the user at immense length, and I'm afraid that (by my own personal estimate) he simply does not possess the understanding of English required for the sort of complicated discussion such a controversial issue engenders. Neither can he often fully understand the very sources he attempts to cite in support of his position (and usually interprets them in-line with a strong pro-Italian bias). Either that, or this is one hell of a case of deliberate WP:ICANTHEARYOU, but I'm somewhat less convinced of that possibility.
To be sure, the user can read and post intelligible posts when he really makes the effort, but usually, as the discussion goes on, the exchange, unsatisfactory to begin with, deteriorates further and further in terms of understanding (presumably as the user gets tired of writing and making-out English).
There are other concerns as well. The user is also consistently dishonest in his sourcing, and has been caught misquoting references on about half-dozen times. He doesn't understand WP:OR and refuses to abide by it, etc.
I hope you can appreciate my position. I'm sort of caught between "a rock and a hard place", as it were. On the one hand I can not just stand by and let the user go through with low-quality, biased edits, often fraudulently sourced - yet on the other I'd rather have my nails ripped out than try to discuss with him again (if you'll pardon the gruesome mental image). As I said, I've already written volumes of text to make no real progress. -- Director (talk) 21:11, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
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