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Portugal comes from the ancient Roman cities of Portus and Calem, situated at the river Douro's mouth. These originated the Condato Portucalense (Portucalense County), then Reino Portucalense (Portucalense Kingdom), then Reino de Portugal (Kingdom of Portugal).

Joanakestlar (talk) 03:46, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

November 2013

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to blank out or remove portions of page content, templates, or other materials from Misplaced Pages, as you did at Crusades, you may be blocked from editing. Thank you. Feel free to discuss your proposed blanking on the article talk page but doing so again, especially with a personal attack, and you'll be reported. Stalwart111 13:48, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

It's got nothing to do with "ownership" - for things to be included in Misplaced Pages articles they need to be verified by reliable sources. Adding your personal opinion to articles is referred to here as "original research" and is typically reverted. You are now edit-warring for which you can be blocked. Again, not MY personal opinion, just the basic rules and guidelines around here. Stalwart111 02:47, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

So basically, and in a very euphemistical way, you're saying that any thing I add, will get reverted! I can see you verifying every sentence in this site...

It's not a euphemism - if you don't have a source, your POV will be reverted. I didn't undo your last edit. There are thousands and thousands of active users here and few will find your conduct acceptable. I haven't edited that article since your last revert and adding pointless warnings to my USERPAGE (rather than my talk page) is just silly. Feel free to keep going (I couldn't care less) you'll just be blocked anyway. Stalwart111 04:13, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

you should see the definition of euphemism...

Perhaps I can help you understand what is happening with this one. Your statement "aimed at defending the Christians from Muslim invasion and oppression" is already covered by the cited references for Thomas Madden (a published academic historian) asserting that the Crusades were purely defensive campaigns. These references are within a context that they are not universally agreed among historians (as can been seen by other citations in the article). Firstly, Christians cannot be seen as a single actor in these conflicts, the Orthodox Church, Latin Church, Coptics etc all had differing perspectives (particularly in the events of the fourth crusade!!). Secondly, the Muslims themselves cannot be considered a single entity, covering both Arabs and Turks. Thirdly, oppression of Christians in the context of the times doesn't stand up - restricted yes, but Christians were tolerated through the region as children of the book. Finally, timing why did the Crusades occur at the end of the 11th century when the Holy Land had already been in Muslim hands for centuries - in all probability as part of a growing assertiveness of the Latin church. All of these are cited in the article whereas it has been pointed out to you that your edit has no references. If you do re-edit you will need sources to make it stick - but I don't agree with you premise.Norfolkbigfish (talk) 08:40, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

I agree with you, except with the part Christian were tolerated. They were treated as second rate citizens, with taxes that Muslims didnt have to pay, and they were generally mistreated by them. Anyway, I think wikipedia is in the hands of PC stalinists, so no wonder editors are leaving en masse! Joanakestlar (talk) 00:46, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

This is of course, true. But it does ignore two crucial points. Firstly, the level of toleration for difference in both the Eastern Empire & the various Muslim states was far greater than would be expected in the Latin states of western Europe. Secondly, at the time the standards of freedom in the west were much much lower than now. That's not PC, that's history. Norfolkbigfish (talk) 10:03, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Then you should learn History from neutral sources, not far -left extremist ones! Saying the muslims were more tolerant than the Christians is nothing but a laugh! Joanakestlar (talk) 15:27, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

This is your last warning. You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you vandalize a page, as you did with this edit to User:Stalwart111. Oddbodz - (Talk) (Contribs) 21:32, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Please do not attack other editors, as you did on talk:Crusades. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Calling other editors "anti-white racists and anti-christian xenophobians" (as you did here) is neither constructive nor acceptable. If you repeat such behavior, you will be blocked. --Stephan Schulz (talk) 15:55, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Your recent editing history at Crusades shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 31 hours for edit warring. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the following text below this notice: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. However, you should read the guide to appealing blocks first.

During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection.  John Reaves 19:51, 13 November 2013 (UTC)