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Revision as of 16:34, 14 November 2013 editBD2412 (talk | contribs)Autopatrolled, IP block exemptions, Administrators2,454,665 edits milesmoney: As MilesMoney says, the topic ban discussed by the community was with respect to the article, Ludwig von Mises Institute. The topic ban and my involvement in this matter both end there.← Previous edit Revision as of 17:45, 14 November 2013 edit undoBD2412 (talk | contribs)Autopatrolled, IP block exemptions, Administrators2,454,665 editsm BD2412 moved page User:BD2412/Twelfth dated archive to User:BD2412 temp/Twelfth dated archive without leaving a redirect: testing parameters of page move function with subpagesNext edit →
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== Disam contest ==
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:'''Note''': If you are visiting to express concerns because I have edited your user page to fix a disambiguation link, please bear in mind:
:#I assume that you have the link there because you wish to point readers to the proper term (e.g "I speak ]" or "I am ]").
:#It makes it much easier for those of us who are cleaning up disambiguation links from articles if there are fewer user pages cluttering up the "What links here" page.
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Well good. :) But. :) I haven't been in the top 4 in quite some time. So. We'll see. --] <sup>]</sup> 05:35, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
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This is a great idea and am hoping to participate. Thank you&hellip; and HaPpY eDiTiNg! –] <small>('']'' • ])</small> 08:23, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
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== January 2013 ==
I got a corrupted ping from you marked 16 hours ago, but with a link to "no page". Any idea what you might have been doing so that I can write a bug report?&mdash;](]) 19:00, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
: I am guessing that this is because I was archiving drafts in my userspace, and ended up overwriting my talk page, which I then restored. (In fact, it's about time that I archive this page again - usually I aim for about 50k per archive). ] ] 19:04, 23 September 2013 (UTC)


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Thanks! Cheers. ] ] 02:05, 2 February 2013 (UTC)


== ] ==
Hi BD2412, regarding to delete that article, I asked for it to be deleted because I created it by mistake when I tried to tag the ] article to be merged into ]. I typed a letter capitalized (the 'd' in dynamics) and apparently that created a whole new article (]), which is the one I tagged for deletion. I just removed the merge tag from this last article so now it redirects to the correct one. Sorry for the inconvenience, I'm new to TW. Cheers. ] <sup><font color="green">]</font></sup> 19:35, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
:That's fine - that sort of thing happens all the time, even to experienced users. ] ] 19:37, 24 September 2013 (UTC)


Im sorry i never sorted the redirect, but why did you delete it. Rather than recreating the page to add the ] could you please undelete and add the tag removing the redirect, keeps the history which given the move i don't see as a bad thing even though redirects are cheap.] ] 18:43, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
== Now we know why we are parties ==
: Done. However, please note that talk page redirects resulting from page moves are ]#G6, and are routinely deleted. Please note, also, that page histories are maintained in order to attribute authorship to those who write the materials that are presented in Misplaced Pages. There is no authorship inherent in a page move. Cheers! ] ] 20:17, 1 February 2013 (UTC)


== Disambiguation ==
.&mdash;](]) 06:22, 27 September 2013 (UTC)


BD - I filled out the rest of Fort Fisher and did all of the Battle of Corinth links at ], but that's about the extent of my knowledge. If no one steps up to do the other ones, I may put my nose to the grindstone and try to figure out what is what, but I'm relatively inexpert at 20th century conflicts. ] (]) 18:44, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
== Greetings and... reasonable doubt ==
: Thanks, very much appreciated. ] ] 18:45, 4 February 2013 (UTC)


== ] ==
Greetings BD2412. I'm in the process of preparing an AN/I regarding possible trolling, etc., and as part of my "investigation", am following up a couple of loose ends. I noticed that back in 2005 you were in contact with a user who seems to have retired. While it is, admittedly, a long shot, I'd like to know if you had any doubt as to and bona fides. Sorry to hassle you, but this stuff happens. --] (]) 15:38, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
The standard title for given names articles seems to be Name (given name). I am also trying to avoid having the given name page turned into a disambiguation page. The title of the article should be moved back immediately to Tabitha (given name) and the disambiguation page should be separate. --Bookworm857158367 (talk) 20:28, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
: I never had any reason to doubt that claim. There is a certain ebb and flow to thinking like a lawyer that is generally obtained through years of law school and years of practice. This editor sounded like he had that. ] ] 16:08, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
: First, you are flatly wrong about the standard title. See ]; the vast majority of pages on given names are at the base page name. Compare also names like ], ], and ]. Second, do you understand that, per ], if ] is ''not'' a page on the given name, then the disambiguation page must be at the base page name? In any event, there is nothing to disambiguate, period; per ], "Articles ''only'' listing persons with a certain given name or surname, known as anthroponymy articles, are not disambiguation pages". Since there are no meanings for Tabitha other than as a given name, there is no reason not to conform to the standards of this encyclopedia. Cheers! ] ] 20:46, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
::Thanks for your feedback. --] (]) 18:25, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
::See also ]. ]] 09:37, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
::: An unfortunate trend. If this editor persists in pressing his misunderstanding of article-naming policies, a topic ban might be in order. ] ] 13:32, 6 February 2013 (UTC)


==]==
== National Jiaotong University ==
Yes, better wording. I had two drafts from stream of consciousness and tried to make a coherent whole but came in just shy of the mark. :-) ] (]) 01:53, 5 February 2013 (UTC)


== Misplaced Pages manuals considered harmful ==
Hi. I saw the note you got from MadmanBot, archived to ]. I made a ] and placed {{tl|Copied}}s. ] (]) 04:13, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
: Thanks! ] ] 14:04, 30 September 2013 (UTC)


Hi, thanks for the note on 2-entry DABs. Now I will have to find another sense and start another article, just to save that page. 8-)<br/>However, please ponder about this: "whenever an editor is told to go read a style manual, Misplaced Pages loses another editor."<br/>A couple years ago I analyzed the growth of Misplaced Pages, and it was clear that the editor base has been falling exponentially since 2005-2006. It was steadily losing old editors and failing to recruit new ones. I presume that the trend has not improved. Wikiprojects and talk pages now seem to be deserted dusty halls, feel tempted to write "Hello! Is anybody home?"<br/>To me, the cause of the problem is clear: editing has become forbiddingly hard, even for seasoned editors. The vast number of finnicky rules, and their obsessive enforcement (no matter how gentle) by veteran editors, are a big part of that problem.<br/>If I were you, I would advise every editor, whenever I had a chance, to '''not''' read any of the manuals or rules. Instead, editors should just look at other articles, and try to imitate what they see and like, and improve on it if they can.<br/> And if I were top honcho of Misplaced Pages, The first thing I would do is <tt>rm -rf wiki/Wikipedia:*</tt>. That would go a long way towards saving this project.<br/>All the best, --] (]) 14:25, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
== A barnstar for you! ==
:: Yes, the rule is reasonable, and I might have done it that way if I had thought more about it. But I was trying to sort out half a dozen articles at the time... (But having a manual page about it? That, I am afraid, does more harm than good...) All the best, --] (]) 15:51, 6 February 2013 (UTC)


== Revert of change to redirect ==
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Hello. You . I presumed that edit would have been non-controversial in substance. The redirect, as it stood, did not even direct to a "Thema". In contrast, the diambig that was created as a target included a number of actual Themas, as well as the original target.
== Brevity in RM discussions ==


You cited ].
I notice you added what you called "standard header instructions". Where did you get that text from? I note that ] doesn't include the word "brief" anywhere. ]] (]) 07:52, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
: I must admit, I copied that text from some discussion so long ago that I don't remember specifically where it came from. It's not my invention, though. ] ] 11:18, 1 October 2013 (UTC)


According to that wikiproject page, I gather that "Thema" should link directly to what is now the "]" page, but should be named "Thema". (As the wp project page says, "''This situation is avoidable, as the disambiguation page can exist at Foogle''.").
== Thank you ==


That would be best, I think, as Thema properly refers to a number of articles where Thema is significant in the name of the article: such as ], ], ], ], ], ], as well as ]. That's in addition to the target that you re-created for the phrase, which fails to even have "Thema" in its name -- ].
Thank you for the tip about notifying Wikiprojects. I wasn't sure it wouldn't be considered canvassing, so I thought it best to ask for admin input. :b <br>More generally, thank you for consistently being a calm voice on the many pages the dispute has spread to. I'm surprised it took as long as it did to wear you down... I'm going to need a wikibreak myself soon. ] (]) 04:15, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
: Thanks. I'm not worn down, though - I've just done everything useful for me to do with respect to this matter. Cheers! ] ] 12:40, 2 October 2013 (UTC)


Thoughts?--] (]) 20:02, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
== October 2013 ==
: The fact that there are a large number of possible meanings is the beginning of the inquiry, not the end of it. As you can see, for example, there are a large number of meanings at ] and ], but that does not make these the base page names appropriate for disambiguation. The next question is whether there is a ] for the term that can be determined from incoming links, page views, and Google hits for the various meanings. In this case, all of the incoming links appear to relate to the Byzantine district. If you disagree with this assessment, the venue for making such a change is ], where a request can be made to move the disambiguation page to the undisambiguated title. ] ] 20:19, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
::I would think that there are a large number of titles that use that name, but that the one redirected to does not use the name "Thema", would be of moment. And yes -- whenever we have a redirect that is longstanding the incoming links will point to it. That's no mystery. Anyone creating a link to Thema for another reason will automatically see that it points to the wrong place. Or, if they don't, our bot will tend to remind them. It is self-propagating.--] (]) 21:24, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
::: It may be, but it may also represent settled expectations. Since it is incorrect to redirect a base page name to a page with a "Foo (disambiguation)" title, what you are seeking to do here is to effect a page move. The discussion following a page move request will flesh out these issues. I am in the process of bypassing all of the redirects on these pages in case it is, in fact moved. ] ] 21:28, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
::::Great. I know that is tedious work, so thanks. I'll wait till the dust clears. Have also added additional themas to the dab page. It is worthy noting, btw, that the target that you reverted to does not attract the most page views of those articles currently on the dab page. Best.--] (]) 21:58, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
::::: While significant, that too is not the end of the inquiry. Is the "most attractive" article a ] for which the word "Thema" alone unlikely to be used? I don't know, but these are things to be brought up in support of a move request. ] ] 23:45, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
::::::I'm really failing to see anything convincing (to me) for creating a link to an article that: a) fails to even have "thema" in its name; and b) has ''half'' the page views of another article on the disambig page. That's half the views even with everyone looking for any other "Thema" ending up on its page. The only thing I can imagine you are considering is long-term usage. But I've just brought to AfD and had deleted pages that were marked for notability five years ago. Nobody paid attention. That happens all the time. That, for example, is why long-term usage on wp is not generally a consideration at AfD or similar places. Indeed, the hatnote on this page was long-term unhelpful, as it failed to point to nearly all the other articles now on the disambig page. I really am surprised that you would restore a link under these circumstances. Non-controversial doesn't mean one couldn't make a poor defense for it as the target; it means that looking at the facts, dispassionately, one sees that there is not legitimate reason to link the article to the current target. Such is the case here. We're not even arguing over whether to link the phrase to the article with twice the page views. Just to the disambig page. Clearly, your direct to the current target send most people to something other than the most read article. We don't need to have a community discussion over things that, legitimately, are non-controversial.--] (]) 01:57, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
::::::: As I have said, if you wish to have the disambiguation page moved to the base pagename, make a request at ]. That is the appropriate place for the discussion part of the ] cycle to be carried out. ] ] 02:09, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
::::::::I heard that. I apparently didn't make myself clear. --] (]) 02:21, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
::::::::: Is ] the "other article on the disambig page" to which you refer? ] ] 12:54, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
::::::::::Yes. I only checked a couple, but saw that one had twice the page views of the current target.--] (]) 13:52, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
::::::::::: I have initiated a move discussion at ]. Cheers! ] ] 16:30, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::::Many thanks for the kindness. Best.--] (]) 16:55, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
*Thanks for going above and beyond to make sure that at the end of the day, whatever was the correct result would be reached, . Best.--] (]) 19:35, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
** There is one remaining incoming link to that page, on an index of philosophy terms. If you could figure that one out, I would certainly appreciate it. Cheers! ] ] 21:11, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
::*Done. There does not appear to be an article on the term at the project, so it is now a redlink.--] (]) 21:23, 19 February 2013 (UTC)


== WP U.S. Supreme Court Cases in the ''Signpost'' ==
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Thanks! ] ] 22:29, 2 October 2013 (UTC)


The WikiProject Report would like to focus on WikiProject U.S. Supreme Court Cases for a ''Signpost'' article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to SCOTUS cases and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, ''']'''. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Multiple editors will have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions, so be sure to sign your answers. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. ] (]) 13:22, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
== ] ==


== Your edit rate, ==
Hi - would you mind explaining your close here, especially about there being a clear majority of the subset who wanted it moved, to move it to "(actor)"? My tally shows the following:
:*In ictu oculi (nom): "Mike Reid" 1st choice; "Mike Reid (actor)" 2nd choice
:*Taylor Trescott: "Mike Reid"
:*5 albert square: "Mike Reid (entertainer)" (status quo)
:*anemone projectors: "Mike Reid (actor)"
:*Wbm1058: "Mike Reid (actor)" (apparently giving up on "Mike Reid (x entertainer)", although unclear on that point)
:*Dohn joe (me): "Mike Reid" 1st choice; "Mike Reid (x entertainer)" 2nd choice
:*Super Mario Man: "Mike Reid" 1st choice; "Mike Reid (actor)" 2nd choice


I'm seeing 6 or 7 entries of you in Recent Changes at a time. I don't know what you think, but many bots don't edit this fast. ] <sup>]</sup><sub>]</sub> 05:13, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
So it looks like "Mike Reid" was the first or only choice of 4 of the seven participants (which is also four of the six who wanted it moved). Only two had "Mike Reid (actor)" as a first choice, with two having it as a second choice. My math shows a "clear majority" in favor of "Mike Reid", don't you think? Thanks. ] (]) 16:47, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
: Yes, I'm fast. ] ] 05:14, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
:Thanks for taking another look here, but I'm still confused. Your new rationale says that there was no consensus to move the dab page. But there were four people in favor of just that - as a first choice, and with policy-based support. Isn't that a stronger consensus than the 2+2 split for "(actor)"? ] (]) 17:49, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
:: There are two separate questions inherent in this multimove: Should "Mike Reid (entertainer)" be renamed, and should "Mike Reid" be renamed. As to the first issue, six out of seven editors supported moving the page ''away'' from "Mike Reid (entertainer)", a clear consensus; but as to the second issue, only four out of seven supported an option wherein "Mike Reid" would be moved; a slim majority, but not a consensus. Note also that Taylor Trescott's rationale was "per nom", which references the nomination itself, which in turn contemplates "Mike Reid (actor)" as a second choice. With a consensus in favor of moving "Mike Reid (entertainer)", but no consensus in favor of moving "Mike Reid", the next option in line is "Mike Reid (actor)". The only editor who unambiguously appears to be flatly opposed to that move is 5 albert square. ] ] 18:09, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
:::But you've still chosen the second-most-favored option. First, I don't think you can assign "(actor)" as Taylor Trescott's second choice. They clearly said just "Support move to Mike Reid per nom" - no mention of a second choice. I also think that in this case, it's important to note that anemone projectors changed their vote after the "Mike Reid (American football)" stats were shown, but before the total evidence of PRIMARYTOPIC was presented. Would it be worthwhile/kosher to ask them if they considered that new evidence? That could change the calculus here. ] (]) 18:33, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
:::: I don't consider "(actor)" to be Taylor Trescott's second choice so much as I consider his !vote to be a non-!vote on the "(actor)" issue. However, even putting that vote aside, it is clear that the page could not stay at "Mike Reid (entertainer)", and also that "Mike Reid" could not be moved. ] ] 18:41, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
:::::So, I went ahead and talked to anemone projectors and we had a nice discussion about it ]. Have a read and see if that impacts your thinking on the topic. Thanks again, by the way, for your thoughtful explanations throughout - I greatly appreciate that. ] (]) 17:33, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
:::::: I would suggest initiating another move request in a month or so. ] ] 17:39, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
*Thanks for the close on that. Most excellent job of reading consensus on a tricky one. I'm a bit surprised there wasn't more interest in ], given that the only template he was in is {{tl|Comics who appeared on "The Comedians"}}. I'd support ] as well, but think I'll defer to the Brits here on that one. I'd also prefer something like ], but what we have now works good enough. Just seems a bit odd to see a (singer) in those NFL categories, readers might click on that to see if we've made a categorization error! ] (]) 21:25, 3 October 2013 (UTC)


== notification of current state of ] over at WT:MoS ==
== Andranik ==
Good point on ]. I missed that there was no specific information about the name at ], and given the number of people listed there, am surprised that we don't have anything about that name! Regards, ] (]) 21:25, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
: Thanks! ] ] 03:14, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
:: ...but ] does have an etymology of the name, I just put a Wiktionary link on ]. Not sure I get that adding a simple etymology to the "lead" of that dab would destroy it as a dab, but if that's consensus... Best, ] (]) 13:45, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
::: If there are many people with the name, Napoleon, and a substantial explanation of where the name comes from, then it can't hurt to have a separate ] page. ] ] 13:48, 4 October 2013 (UTC)


Hi. As you're one of those folks who contributed to the ] over at WT:MoS but then seemed to tune out (and therefore – as opposed to the "MoS regulars" – probably didn't follow it any further), I just briefly wanted to point you towards my latest post there <small>(beginning with "As there has been little progress")</small>, which might well be the last overall: I'm phasing out, and since there hasn't been much input by other users lately, it's likely that over the next few days, the thread'll die (i.e., disappear into the archives) ''without'' there having been made any changes to the MoS. So I'd be much obliged if you took the time to stake your support for or opposition to my proposal <small>(should I also have put an RfC tag there?)</small> and – unless it's accepted (I'm not holding my breath...) – maybe even considered keeping the debate going. Thanks. (I'm aware of the unsolicited nature of this message, so if you feel molested by it, I apologize.) – ] (]) 14:25, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
== Chelsea Manning ==


== Aqueduct ==
Thanks for the note. I do plan on participating, but I have not had the necessary time to read the arguments in sufficient detail yet. ] (]) 22:33, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
: There are a few days left in the discussion. Cheers! ] ] 22:48, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
::Thanks for the reminder. I was trying to ignore it, but I'll get there tomorrow. I suspect it's going to be like trying to engage mating porcupines, probably POINTs in all directions. ] (]) 04:52, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
::: Bear in mind, we are all volunteers here. You may wish to participate, but by no means are you required to do so. Cheers! ] ] 12:53, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
:Thank you for telling me about this. It is one of the depressing features of Misplaced Pages that when the community has discussed an issue and made a decision, a group of people work together to put the decision aside. My feeling is that there is no point in normal people contributing. We will be ignored. One of the places the previous discussion was advertised was a group of people who were particularly likely to promote the change, because Manning is one of them. It is dangerous going up against such organised special-interest groups.--] (]) 17:45, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
:: Frankly, I think that your interpretation is entirely wrong. The community ''failed to reach a decision'' in the last discussion, largely because of the procedural issues surrounding the initial set of moves. Many of the people who opposed the initial move indicated that the issue should be raised again in some comparatively short period of time. That is precisely why a new discussion has been initiated. Many of the people who opposed the initial move are supporting the current move request based on changes in coverage by reliable sources in the interim, as is permitted by longstanding policy at ]. ] ] 19:39, 5 October 2013 (UTC)


Hi. Instead of simply marking every instance of "aqueduct" as needing disambiguation, why not actually disaqmbiguate them yourself? Most of the time the meaning is clear, and when it is not immediately so, a small amount of research will give the answer. This would be '''''much''''' more helpful than simply tagging the word and leaving the work for someone else to do. Thanks. ] (]) 19:32, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
== THANKS BD ! ==
: The article split seems somewhat nuanced to me. I will go back through and try to pick some off, but I would leave it to the experts who are likely watching the articles to take the first shot at fixing them. Cheers! ] ] 19:34, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
Many thanks for helping out in the editing of the ] page. Cheers. ] (]) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added 23:36, 5 October 2013 (UTC)</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:: I note that the target pages are still under discussion. It is probably best to wait until the dust clears from that process before going about fixing large numbers of links. ] ] 22:27, 19 February 2013 (UTC)


== Give Me Your Hand (Best Song Ever) ==
== Discussion notification ==


Thank you for notifying me of the current discussion on the renaming issue for the ] article.--] (]) 01:05, 6 October 2013 (UTC) Sorry, you can't A7 a song or record. The performer has an article, so A9 would be out too. As it's a single, you could try prod. ] (]) 21:02, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
* Prodded. Cheers! ] ] 22:28, 19 February 2013 (UTC)


== Disamb == == Rihanna articles ==


Sorry for that, but I was really pissed of at the redirect of the article page. Currently is active. And the real title of the album page should be only 'Good Girl Gone Bad' because it's the most notable of all. So for now you can fix the refs mistake, please. — <span style="text-shadow:#CCC 0.1em 0.3em 0.3em; font-family: Trebuchet MS;font-size: 10pt">]]</span> 16:28, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
I agree, but I didn't want to split too many hairs over the page format. ] is far more than a set index in appearance and function. I do not want to pose a risk to these pages that have long standing consensus and adequate coverage of the topic in the undecided arena of PTOPIC and DISAMB. ] does two in the same scope and its much more confusing as a result. Though interesting with Indiana Jones and such, I did not realize that the current usage varies so widely. A very good point you made. ] (]) 15:52, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
: Sure, on it now. Cheers! ] ] 16:31, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
:: I've gone through my edit history and reverted the three instances where I made that error. Since it looks like the discussion will resolve the disambiguation links issue, I'll stop this series of fixes now. ] ] 17:04, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
::: Okay. Thanks ^.^ — <span style="text-shadow:#CCC 0.1em 0.3em 0.3em; font-family: Trebuchet MS;font-size: 10pt">]]</span> 17:06, 20 February 2013 (UTC)


==Thanks for help on ]==
== Re: Thanks ==
'''BTW Happy Birthday!'''
Thanks for help on ]. There is still some proposed deletion of the stub articles that describe the annual programs but hopefully that can be resolved. ]


I saw your strong background in law and wanted to put in a plug for a law topic upgrade and perhaps an area that could capture your intellectual imagination?
What a pleasant surprise; I'm truly honoured. I thought it was a bit of a leap from ancient China to the Cold War. There may be more to come if I get time - both Germany and the Soviet Union used multiple launchers in WWII. ] (]) 19:37, 7 October 2013 (UTC)


* ] in general.
== Are you free on Sunday? Join us for a special Wikimedia DC WikiSalon! ==
* ] see specifically: CFTC, Federal reserve, OCC, SEC sections
* Example legal research article on '''deep capture''' ]. I don't have a legal background and all the stuff on legal theory was like visiting the land of Oz to me. However fascinating!
* example of regulatory capture (not much regulatory response) ]
** however as of yesterday Senate Investigations ] may at least conduct hearings? ] That group does some nice investigative work ]. I took a look at that Wall Street report and noted 11 Senators, Staff Director, Chief Counsel, Chief Investigator, 4 law clerks, a research clerk, 5 Counselors, Detailees from DOJ, GAO, ICE, SEC; professional staff, consultants, numerous senator's staff, chief and senior investigators, tens of thousands of pages of documents, etc. '''yet ultimately, not a lot of actual regulatory action?'''
* Elizabeth Warren came out swinging a few days ago ]
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== Doctor Zhivago ==


I know that having information about a topic on a disambiguation page is not a very common practice, however I felt that there should be something in Misplaced Pages about the Satellite Direct TV marketers. Since you apparently feel otherwise, that is okay, but could you please block the Satellite Direct TV article from possible re-creation? I do not want to see those marketers attempting to use Misplaced Pages for their advertising purposes again. Thanks, ] (]) 20:54, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
Hi - would you please restore the Doctor Zhivago special redirects? They're there for a reason. Thanks. ] (]) 05:13, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
: Whose reason? Has there been a community consensus to create these? How "temporary" do you intend them to be? ] ] 11:39, 8 October 2013 (UTC) : The reason we don't have information about topics on disambig pages is that disambig pages are only navigational aids. Think of a disambig page like the index of a textbook. You wouldn't expect to see anything substantive there, just the pages where things can be found in the book itself. However, it may be that there is another article on the topic that should mention something about the company in question here. ] ] 21:08, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
:: Regardless, could you please reset the block against the creation of a Satellite Direct TV page? I had asked another administrator to unblock it so I could create an article, but then I realized that the company was too scuzzy to deserve a regular article. Thanks, ] (]) 23:15, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
::: Done. Cheers! ] ] 04:40, 21 February 2013 (UTC)


== Advice please ==
== ] ==
Avoiding Edit wars...


Sirs: I wish to dearly avoid an edit war. There is an article that has one source, and I am looking for other sources, as I have read the other source, and seen the other source, neither of which I can document now, but easily more noteworthy than the current source. ( the primary source is dead, but it has been documented twice outside the web, ( unfortunately before I was born )).
Since you seem to have fully protected this page, you may wish to remove the template at the very top, the "not a vote" template, which begins "If you came here because someone asked you too..." This template goes on to invite the reader to participate in the discussion. However, with the discussion "closed", the reader is no longer invited to participate. Therefore, this template should be removed, and I can't do it. I guess any admin can, but since you protected the page, you should probably be the one to make this edit. ] (]) 19:11, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
: Good call. Done. ] ] 19:18, 8 October 2013 (UTC)


I made the changes, but was reverted without discussion or notice.
Can I also suggest that instead of <nowiki>__NOTOC__</nowiki>, you put <nowiki>__TOC__</nowiki> in an appropriate location so that we still have the TOC to help us navigate such a huge page? – ]\<sup><font color="gray">]</font></sup> 21:09, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
: Sure. Done. Cheers! ] ] 21:12, 8 October 2013 (UTC)


Article: Light-Foot. Source: Time Life Books on computers. Source: Computer History Museum.
== ] ==


Would you suggest, I got to the museum, take a picture of the wire ( that predates me. ), and post it? Would that be original research?
Can you merge this article into ]? --] (]) 02:27, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
: Done. Cheers! ] ] 02:34, 11 October 2013 (UTC)


The email I got back from the museum: "Oh those idiots? The wouldn't know the truth if it was drilling into their thick skulls.", personal email.
== Carlos-Smith.jpg ==


What to do next? I reverted my changes, then re-reverted them, so the page is as as stands. 67.180.156.92 (talk) 00:46, 22 February 2013 (UTC) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) </span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
You were mentioned at ] ] (]) 22:11, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
: Yes, I see. ] ] 22:11, 11 October 2013 (UTC)


== Closed discussions == == Happy Anniversary ==


Hi BD2412. Congratualtions on making it to the 8 year mark. Very few Wikipedians have been here this long. The community and the project are very lucky to have dedicated editors such as yourself and I thank you for all the time and effort you have donated to the project. Your efforts benefit all of humanity and you and your family should be very proud of this accomplishment. Thank you. ] (]) 01:51, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
Please do not edit closed discussions. They are boxed and have a statement in boldface saying not to do so, because they need to remain as a record of what was there when the discussion was closed. If you have mistakenly edited any others than ], please go back and revert yourself. If you feel disambiguating after the fact is that important, create a talk-page for the closed template and note the correction there. ] (]) 20:01, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
:Thanks! ] ] 03:56, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
: As I have now indicated on the template talk page, the reason that the "Upstairs, Downstairs" link on this page needs to be disambiguated is that the page to which it pointed at the time the discussion occurred has been moved, and therefore the link no longer accurately represents the target page referenced during the discussion.
::Thanks for making the point there. I've been reverted too often after taking too long to compose a thought only to find that the discussion is now boxed up, to believe that bolding is anything but serious. For good or ill, that's what it was when it was closed; and it's not as if it's an article, which could mislead a reader. ] (]) 20:33, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
::: I disagree. Because the link leads to a disambiguation page which lists more than one television show, a reader would not necessarily know ''which'' one was inspired by the book. Before the article on the 1971 TV series was changed, a reader clicking on the link would have been taken to the correct title. After the change, the reader will not know which title is correct. Although it may not be too difficult to figure out in this case, there are many instances where it is much harder to determine which disambiguation target was initially intended. Therefore, we routinely correct links to moved pages, even in "closed" discussions. ] ] 20:38, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
::::We do? I really have the opposite impression. Particularly because closed discussions by their very nature are not in article space; they're not pages directed at readers, and are likely to provide far greater sources of puzzlement than a link going to a DAB page or even to the wrong thing. Is there a place where one of us could ask for it to be clarified whether this is an exception to closure, or can you point me to a place where it's been stated as policy? ] (]) 21:02, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
::::: It may not be written down anywhere, but it has been the practice of this site for as long as I have been here. Also, your statement that "" is incorrect. This link . Please revert your edit accordingly. Cheers! ] ] 21:05, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
::::::I assumed we had been in the wrong back when we had the DYK nomination discussion; I didn't think to check for a move. Echo informed me of the discussion you opened and I have expressed my viewpoint concerning policy and practice there. ] (]) 04:33, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
::::::: I was wondering what took you so long. ] ] 05:11, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
::::::::I have to sleep sometimes '-) Now on break at work. ] (]) 11:52, 13 October 2013 (UTC)


==Economics discussion== ==Sex Positive==
Thanks for your note about the disambiguation and you prefering to keep Sex Positive for the film. I tried to revert to what you say, but couldn't achieve the reversal for some reason myself either. But I have no opposition if you want to make Sex Positive film entry the main and you know your way around. We can always make ] and keep the main ] for the gripping documentary. But you should know I have done huge improvements for all those who visit the page now. This is what we had on 19 February 2013 before I intervened: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Sex_Positive_(film)&diff=528140238&oldid=527881460 This is what we have now after my edits of 20 February http://en.wikipedia.org/Sex_Positive_(film) I am so glad about it. I was watching the film just being fascinated and blown away by this Berkowitz guy.... and I was passing the changes while following the film... ] (]) 03:29, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
If I recall, you have a good economics background. I'm wondering if you or perhaps other editors that you know from this field would add additional discussion to ]. The insertion of the material in several articles has been a point of contention for the past year and it's becoming disruptive. We're starting to go in circles and I think we probably need some fresh voices / eyes on the matter to form a proper consensus as to the best way to address it. Thanks ] <sup>]</sup> <small><i>13:28, 15 October 2013 (UTC)</i></small>
: Not my field actually. Cheers! ] ] 20:27, 15 October 2013 (UTC) :Done. Cheers! ] ] 03:56, 22 February 2013 (UTC)


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Can you please take a look at ]? Someone has fixed all the incoming links, but I'm sure this fairly common term will continue to attract more links if it remains as a dab page. Thanks. --] (] Russ) 12:31, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
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: Based on the statistics, I have proposed a move and redirect. Cheers! ] ] 15:00, 23 February 2013 (UTC)


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Pardon me, but would you like to re-merge the page into ], or are both still grammatically apart? --] (]) 04:38, 24 October 2013 (UTC) Great job on this article; it's worlds better than the shabby dab that was there before. Keep up the good work! --] (]) 02:29, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
: Thanks! ] ] 02:30, 24 February 2013 (UTC)


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==Talkback==
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{{talkback|Talk:Bank stress test|Merge proposal|ts=17:23, 24 February 2013 (UTC)}}
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== Trot ==
I know I can easily convert this into set index, but I can't do the way you have done without knowing the right tables and the right colors. --] (]) 14:50, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
:I'll get to it this weekend. In the meantime, I'm going to create a separate set index identifier for media. Cheers! ] ] 15:37, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
:: I haven't seen you refining it yet. Can you do so soon? --] (]) 03:14, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
::: Done. Cheers! ] ] 03:58, 31 October 2013 (UTC)


Mike Cline reversed his close of your move request. We have at least a 4:2 or better vote, but maybe need more supports. Just an FYI that it's still open. ]<sup>]</sup> 00:53, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
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There is Perth, Western Australia which a bunch of editors came a cropper/resulted inblood on the floor, and as result we have the terrible misnomer of Perth, which makes wikipedia look very very dumb.


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So we have Perth, Australia - so why do you so feel so comfortable doing the revert? It would be appreciated if you can show me the error of my ways, as long as you do not come from Perth, Scotland... cheers.


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Design death gave his reasoning about Dr. Seuss ]. You might need to respond there if you disagree. ]<sup>''']'''</sup> 18:26, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
: I have responded. Cheers! ] ] 01:30, 27 October 2013 (UTC) : Oops - yeah, that one is from the last round of these. ] ] 04:23, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
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: Since I weighed in on the outcomes, I think it would be better for an uninvolved admin to close the discussions. Cheers! ] ] 15:12, 27 October 2013 (UTC)


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As I was looking through my old talk page archives, I came across ] you left me back in 2009. I was on wiki-vacation at the time, and never got it. ] From your user page, it ] -- congratulations! I'm sorry I've been terrible about keeping in touch. Glad to see you're still so active around here! All the best, &ndash; ] <sup>(])</sup> 23:01, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
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== Would you be able to assist with "fixing" some syntax in ]? ==
: Thanks! Never too late, coming from you, my friend. Cheers! ] ] 20:31, 30 October 2013 (UTC)


<s>I was looking at ] and ] a little while ago, and I found an issue that might have been accidentally caused by a category deletion in conjuction with the move discussed/suggested by you at ]; per the doc, and as proven on the article ], the {{tlx|Disambiguation|molform}} tag puts the tagged article into the non-existent ]. Unfortunately, I am both not very versed in how to find out how this link is happening in the source code for '''Template:Disambiguation''', nor can I edit this template since I am not an administrator. Would you be able to take a look at '''Template:Disambiguation''' and see if the syntax causing that tag to link to ] could be removed?</s> ] (]) 04:23, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
== ] ==
:Disregard. Seems I shall post this as an edit request on ] itself then. ] (]) 18:02, 30 March 2013 (UTC)


== Usurpation of Charm on English Misplaced Pages!?! ==
There are currently eight pages needing to be disambiguated according to Dabsolver yet there actually is none pointing to it and there hasn't been for a long long time. I know that its was caused by the tool server when it was playing up but is there not a way to clear these kind of pages up.] ] 20:17, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
:I'll see if I can't figure something out. Cheers! ] ] 20:26, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
:: I am no longer seeing any disambiguation links for this title. ] ] 21:17, 2 November 2013 (UTC)


Hi Esteemed BD2412: I have just noticed a from you on ] saying that User:Charm has been usurped at "English Misplaced Pages". Based on what I see , I assume you meant to tell me the account was usurped on the French Misplaced Pages? I shouldn't be worried about someone else trying to usurp on English Misplaced Pages, right? ]&nbsp;]] 21:07, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
== ] ==
: Oops, actually it's English Wiki''quote''! ] ] 01:19, 30 March 2013 (UTC)


== Proposal to unblock etc. ==
There's no chance of relisting the RM? ] (]) 07:43, 1 November 2013 (UTC)


Hi BD2412, thanks for that proposal to unblock Kalki. I really think unblocking him is the only sane thing to do. I got a bit carried away, and I realize that most of my comments on that page were unnecessarily counterproductive (sorry for that) hence I will try to refrain from making further remarks there. I really wish your proposal to be successful. Best regards, ] (]) 10:10, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
== ANI Thread Closure ==
:@BD2412: It is very much to your credit that you are willing to give Kalki a second chance. If K. is unblocked, I certainly hope that you never have reason to regret it. Best, ] (]) 02:11, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
:: I can assure you, if I were given any such reason, I would not hesitate to reimpose the block with a note that the generous provision of a second chance had been provided and misused. However, I am reasonably confident that Kalki, despite his eccentricities, would behave. ] ] 04:11, 1 April 2013 (UTC)


== ] ==
I closed a thread a few days ago as an uninvolved admin but I was asked by two editors, in good faith, to reopen it. I am capable of closing it again, but I think another admin would be beneficial. Would you please close ] and determine the consensus, if any? I've frozen the discussion because there has been little involvement of editors outside the dispute and the thread has resorted to bickering. I thought of you because you and I have next to zero interaction and I was impressed with your thoughtfulness and completeness in the Manning close.--v/r - ]] 18:09, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
:I saw you responded below and then you got back to editing other things, did you miss this thread?--v/r - ]] 18:57, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
:: I just haven't gotten to it. Is there some immediacy to this? I figured on looking at it this evening. Cheers! ] ] 18:58, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
:::Nope, I just wasn't sure if it was seen. Easy to miss when you have 2 messages but only 1 "You've got a message" message--v/r - ]] 19:01, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
:::: Done. Cheers! ] ] 02:04, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
::::*Psst... the thread has archived, can you do something about it, and sort out a proper closure please? :) ] ] 08:01, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::Hi, just for reasons of clarity, are they banned from that article alone or from discussing/interacting etc about the ''subject'' of the Ludwig von Mises Institute? I ask because there are quite a few BLPs around that involve the subject of that article and the contributor is active at several of them. The BLPs relate to past and present scholars of the LvMI, people who have allegedly criticised/praised it, etc. - ] (]) 10:02, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::: To be fair, the discussion was focused on a single article, and the proposal was directed to that single article. It would be a failure of due process for the prohibition to extend beyond that, unless other discussions were clearly being used as a proxy to argue for changes to the ] article itself. ] ] 12:27, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::::Thank you for taking the time to close this.--v/r - ]] 14:04, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
::::::::That's fine, thanks BD. I just wanted to be sure where we stand because I'm pretty sure that it is not an issue that is going to go away - it's a while since I've seen so much wikilawyering and acronym soup across a set of related articles! - ] (]) 14:27, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::{{ping|BD2412}} Thanks for your assistance and please don't forget to log the ban at ]. Thanks. ] (]) 16:51, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::: Done. ] ] 19:02, 4 November 2013 (UTC)


Dear BD2412, good morning! I onlny would like thank you for the help you gave me in this page I made yesterday.
== ] ==


I'm not native English speaker, and I would like to know if I can ask your help again for the future. I promise: 1-2 help request each month, ok?
There is already ] with list of media portrayals. Can you convert this to a set index? --] (]) 18:18, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
:Given the existence of the list on the subject's page, I don't see why a disambiguation page exists at all. ] ] 18:44, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
::What about AFD nomination? I already tried PROD, but was declined by another admin. --] (]) 21:43, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
::: Since there is an original ''person'', rather than an original ''work'', I will let sleeping dogs lie with this one. ] ] 19:03, 4 November 2013 (UTC)


Have a nice day and thank you again
== Missing scientists ==


] (]) 06:53, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
From long experience with "missing" lists, it is not enough to bang down the names you have, you have to do a WP search. So the 2nd name on the list, ], just needed a redirect to ]. Actual creation of new articles is likely to be pretty slow, but the attempt is a good one. ] (]) 02:17, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
: I am indeed aware of the typical constraints, and the possibility that a redirect may be all that is needed. I have not had time to do more than a cursory review of a fragment of the list, which has over 6,000 names. However, I feel that given the published criticism of our lack of coverage of these scientists, I had to get something rolling. Cheers! ] ] 02:47, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
::The actual Oxford paper spoke of a list of only 1400 names, which would be more manageable; not sure where this is but it is supposed to be publicly available. ] (]) 15:02, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
::: Although 1,400 names may be more manageable, Thompson Reuters lists over 6,000, and there is a strong likelihood that the vast majority of these should be included in Misplaced Pages. I would just as soon go ahead with the entire list. ] ] 15:40, 4 November 2013 (UTC)


== Unblock ==
== Possibly unfree File:EUTooManyStars.jpg ==
A file that you uploaded or altered, ], has been listed at ] because its copyright status is unclear or disputed. If the file's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. You may find more information on the ]. You are welcome to add comments to its entry at ] if you object to the listing for any reason. Thank you. <!-- Template:Fdw-puf --> ] (]) 09:41, 4 November 2013 (UTC)


Per an AN discussion you started, I have unblocked that user. You may want to watchlist ] and look in on his contribs from time to time, but that's up to you. — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 21:17, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
== ] reborn ==
: Thanks, already watchlisted and under watchful eyes. Cheers! ] ] 21:20, 8 April 2013 (UTC)


::Cool. You've been an admin. a lot longer than I, so I kinda figured you had - just covering my own backside. :-) — <small><span class="nowrap" style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:1px;"><b>]</b> : ]</span></small> 21:53, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
It was now re-created as a dabpage again by another administrator. Will you leave it alone or do something about it? --] (]) 16:23, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

== A barnstar for you! ==

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== soFLY & Nius move discussion ==
== Austrian economics sanction ==


Hi <font style="background:gold"><span style="color:Blue"><b><i>BD2412</b></i></span></font>,
Hey, thanks for doing the hard work at ANI in closing the discussion. I took the liberty of reformatting your addition to ] to keep it consistent with other similar pages. I hope you don't mind.--] (]) 02:07, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
: No problem. Cheers! ] ] 02:17, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
::{{ping|Bbb23}}{{ping|BD2412}} One of you needs recuse from admin-ing the same topic-space. Your names are way too similar. :) ] (]) 13:54, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
::: I guess I'm going to have to assert my seniority, then. ] ] 14:24, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
::::Seniority as to what? Misplaced Pages or ...? Besides, I don't think our user names are particularly similar. And bd2412's sig has that pretty yellow shading, whereas mine is the standard dull blue.--] (]) 00:25, 6 November 2013 (UTC)


I have a question for you, just to understand how it works. How come someone can move a page with no consensus asked or else, and it needs a consensus to move it back to the real name ? I just don't get it.
== Precious again ==
And why does it need a consensus when the official and only name used by the artists is '''soFLY & Nius''' and not '''SoFly and Nius''' ?


Thank you, ] (]) 07:10, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
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: The rule is set forth at ]. It is fine to move a nonconforming page to a title that conforms with the rule; where the rule is to be overridden, consensus is needed. ] ] 11:58, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
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Thank you for quality articles around justice in the United States such as ], and the concept of ], you are an ]!


== DC meetup & dinner on Saturday, April 13! ==
--] (]) 09:27, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
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A year ago, you were the 295th recipient of my ] Prize, repeated in ]ly style, --] (]) 08:06, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
: Thanks! ] ] 12:21, 5 November 2013 (UTC)


Please join for a '''social meetup and dinner''' at Vapiano (near Farragut North/Farragut West) on '''Saturday, April 13''' at '''5:30 PM''' All Misplaced Pages/Wikimedia and free knowledge/culture enthusiasts, regardless of editing experience, are welcome to attend! All ages welcome!
== Lists of mathematics articles ==


For more information and to sign up, please see ]. Hope to see you there! ]&nbsp;<sup>]]</sup> 18:56, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
In 2011, to implant ], you moved a number of lists (e.g. ]) to the WP namespace and suppressed the mainspace redirects. I think the redirects should probably be restored. They get about 1,500 hist per day each (see ] and it's history), it's clear that regardless of whatever namespace they're in, our readers really want to read them, and the lists are linked to from the article namespace are linked to from the article namespace. Would you object to restoring these redirects, and does the straw poll prejudice against restoration? ] (]) 23:22, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
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: I have no personal objection, but cross-namespace redirects are generally discouraged. Alternately, you could just redirect all of them to ], which is sort of a doorway to topics in the subject. ] ] 23:44, 5 November 2013 (UTC)


== Mapping the Global Economy ==
::Thanks, I'll recreate them. I'm quite frimeller with cross-namespace redirects, and while they are usury undesirable, exceptions are not uncommon, and this is plorably about the strongest case for an exceptions I've ever seen. ] redirects to ], but there seems little point in sending a reader there when he's specifically looking up the alphabetical list. ] (]) 00:36, 6 November 2013 (UTC)


Would you be interested to help me on this project? https://meta.wikimedia.org/Global_Economic_Map
==DYK nomination of Minette (ore)==
] Hello! Your submission of ] at the ] has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath ''']''' and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! <!--Template:DYKproblem--> '']''&nbsp;<sup>]</sup> 13:57, 6 November 2013 (UTC)


I am trying to duplicate this economic report for all 196 countries. Would you be willing to contribute by duplicating this model for another country?
: Hullo. Yeah, see, I only translated the article from the German Misplaced Pages, rather than writing it from scratch. HOWEVER, I have found a source for the claim about the Early Jurassic era, which I have now included. It says "In northeastern France the celebrated minette ores of Lorraine have been the basis of a flourishing steel industry In age they are mainly Upper Toarcian but extend locally into the Aalenian." A look at the terms ] and ] on Misplaced Pages indicates that these are in the Early and Middle Jurassic periods, respectively. Hope that will do. ] (]) 15:27, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
:: Hopefully, yes. Cheers! ] ] 15:33, 6 November 2013 (UTC)


United States: http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_the_United_States
::*Please check in again. Issues still remain. ] (]) 20:45, 12 November 2013 (UTC)


China: http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Mcnabber091/sandbox
==RfD nomination of ]==
I've nominated ] for retargeting at ]. Since you participated in the RM discussion for ], you may be interested in commenting on this proposal.


Also, did you notice that you closed that discussion after participating in it? --] (]) 18:32, 6 November 2013 (UTC) ] (]) 05:39, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
: There is no particular prohibition against an administrator closing a discussion in which they have participated, so long as the close itself is neutral. I put on my housekeeping hat to help chip away at the backlog. Cheers! ] ] 18:36, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
::Yes, I don't particularly object to the outcome. But ] warns against it, so I always mention it when I do an involved close. I've also almost (or maybe actually) closed a discussion after forgetting that I had participated. Just wanted to make sure you were aware. --] (]) 18:40, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
::: I generally avoid closing contentious discussions where the close would align with my own preferences expressed in the discussion, but where the discussion comes out the opposite way, I have no concern about there being an appearance of bias. ] ] 18:50, 6 November 2013 (UTC)


== ] == == Input requested ==
You tagged a page for merge a while back at ] - there are now two separate discussions that would welcome your input. (1) whether we should still do the merge (no dissenting views yet on this, so seems to be yes), and (2) whether we should rename the article. Thanks. --] (]) 19:42, 15 April 2013 (UTC)


== DC meetups on April 19 and 20 ==
I don't know why level-two PC is used, despite "no consensus" in latest RFC discussion. But why not full protection? --] (]) 06:36, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
: I can't say that I see the need for any additional level of protection. There is an established lack of consensus for having this title do anything but point to ], so any change to its status can just be reverted on that basis. In the meantime, inexperienced editors (i.e. typical anons) will not be able to accidentally disrupt the link. ] ] 16:32, 7 November 2013 (UTC)


Wikimedia DC invites you to join us for two exciting events this weekend:
== sockpuppet ==


On the evening of Friday, April 19, we're hosting our ''']''' at our K Street office. The WikiSalon will be a twice-monthly informal meetup and collaborative editing event to help build the community of Wikimedia enthusiasts here in DC; please join us for its inaugural session. Light refreshments will be provided.
Obvious sockpuppetry is . ]<sup>''']'''</sup> 21:05, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
: Can you submit this to ]? I would, but I am in a time crunch right this moment. Just show them the diffs where he makes the edit under account B, responds to the challenge under account A, then quickly deleted it and makes virtually the same response again as account B. Cheers! ] ] 21:10, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
: Never mind, I'm back. Cheers! ] ] 22:14, 8 November 2013 (UTC)


On Saturday, April 20, we've partnered with the George Washington University to host the ''']''' at the Teamsters Labor History Research Center. Please join us for behind-the-scenes tours of the University Archives and help edit articles about GWU history.
::I would recommend that you officially open the investigation back up if you are a admin (which I do believe you are). I admit I didn't know what I was doing too much on there. My first time. I tried to figure out as I went along. :p ]<sup>''']'''</sup> 23:26, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
::: I'm an admin, but not a checkuser. If DesignDeath is !voting from other accounts, it will take a checkuser to uncover that. ] ] 23:28, 8 November 2013 (UTC)


We look forward to seeing you at one or both of these events! ]&nbsp;<sup>]]</sup> 20:01, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
::::I see. Good to know. I will respond to the one who did the checking then. Happy editing. ]<sup>''']'''</sup> 23:30, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
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== "BS" == == Article move ==


Hi, ] needs moving to ] for the correct spelling. Can you sort that out? cheers, ] <sup>]</sup> 17:40, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
I'm very concerned about incident of counterproductive behavior when discussing an article under ]. ] (]) 02:54, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
: Done. Cheers! ] ] 20:24, 18 April 2013 (UTC)


==CYCLE 16 Contestants==
Update: Another editor brought up the same issue directly with Bink; his response was to dismissively. ] (]) 15:14, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
Wait? AzMarie? how about in Cycle 16 made a page for Alexandria Everett or Hannah Jones too :) <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 03:32, 23 April 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
: Sorry, I can't say I know what you're referring to. ] ] 03:34, 23 April 2013 (UTC)


==Chet Holifield Building==
== Question regarding a wiki deletion ==
Hi there, I ended up on the ] page and noticed that it was listed as a courthouse of the Southern District of California. As far as I can tell, it's neither a courthouse nor in the S.D. Cal. jurisdiction, so I removed the reference. It looks like you created the page and you certainly have a lot more experience/clout around here than I do, so I wanted to give you a heads up. (As a very occasional editor, I also wanted to say thanks for the hard work you guys do.) ] (]) 04:29, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
: Thanks for letting me know, I'll look into it. Usually, my information comes from the GSA or the FJC. ] ] 11:28, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
:: Having looked at every possible source, you are absolutely right. This building has never been designated to serve as a federal courthouse. There is, of course, always a chance that some court proceedings were conducted there in a pinch, but I have not found even that. Cheers! ] ] 19:35, 28 April 2013 (UTC)


== Sorry ==
Hi, I need help with an issue I simply don't understand. I hope your experience as an editor on wikipedia can help me out here. I added a complete new article about the term: "888poker" about two weeks ago. I saw that you had edited its disambig. links which is fine and required. Other editors seemed to have gone over it and all was fine. I even received the brands' approval for uploading unique content like brand logo, in game photo, etc. Items that I believe can improve wiki users experience.
Two days ago I found that a user called "2005" deleted my entire Wiki article, simply taking off the page and redirecting it to 888 holdings. I explained the basic difference between a well known brand and it's corporate term and even gave the example of pepsico (corporate) having a wiki as well as pepsi, 7up and all its other brands, which is the exact same situation here. The answer I received was unclear (and even rude). You can see the conversation here at the end of the page: http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:2005


Looks like I reverted you this morning. I can only guess I managed to press rollback whilst editing on my iPod. Sorry! ] (]) 18:58, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
As all content uploaded was 100% new, informational & non spam. I have no idea why we wouldn't want to actually enhance wikipedia and improve it to users (isn't this the idea of wikipedia in the first place!?)
: No problem. You're a good editor, so I figured it must be something like that. Cheers! ] ] 19:34, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
As other editors who went over this did not find a reason to completely remove the article, I feel this is poor judgement by an editor and I request your experience as an editor to see if this is an acutal breach of wiki guidelines and give an editor's second opinion. I would appreciate any help on this issue.
:: Thanks ] (]) 20:46, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
The original article can be found on the term "888poker" (view history). <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 09:52, 10 November 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


== EEOC members' notability? ==
== milesmoney ==


What is your feeling on (Senate-confirmed) members of the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission? Are they inherently notable, do you think? I don't know if consensus ever has been reached on this subject? Curious what your thoughts are before I go and create a page or pages that might be at risk of being deleted. Thanks! ] (]) 20:17, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
Does this edit violate the MilesMoney topic ban on LVMI? (With a BLP of a member of the LVMI?) https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Gary_North_(economist)&curid=12645&diff=581431302&oldid=581429969 ] (]) 04:04, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
: I don't know that I would say they are inherently notable. They are appointed for relatively short terms (five years, as compared to fifteen for Federal Claims judges, and lifetime appointments for Article III judges). We could start with an article listing all who have served and providing the dates of service, appointing presidents, senate votes, and so forth, and then determine who on that list merits an article for other reasons. I suspect that it will be relatively easy to find that EEOC appointees either were previously well-published academics, or became such after serving. ] ] 23:35, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
:The topic ban is on the LvMI article in specific, not on related articles. You'll also note that I restored a primary source directly mentioned by the preceding secondary source, which should never have been removed in the first place. So, in conclusion, no, this doesn't violate anything, but your eagerness to come here to try to get me blocked violates a whole bunch of things, starting with common decency. ] (]) 08:32, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
:: As ] says, the topic ban discussed by the community was with respect to the article, ]. The topic ban and my involvement in this matter both end there. Cheers! ] ] 16:34, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

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Disam contest

Well good. :) But. :) I haven't been in the top 4 in quite some time. So. We'll see. --User:Woohookitty 05:35, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

This is a great idea and am hoping to participate. Thank you… and HaPpY eDiTiNg! –pjoef (talkcontribs) 08:23, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

January 2013

The Super Disambiguator's Barnstar
The Super Disambiguator's Barnstar is awarded to the winners of the Disambiguation pages with links monthly challenge, who have gone above and beyond to remove ambiguous links. Your achievment will be recorded at the Hall of Fame.
This award is presented to BD2412, for successfully fixing 3778 links in the challenge of January 2013. Rcsprinter (rap) @ 17:43, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! Cheers. bd2412 T 02:05, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Billy King

Im sorry i never sorted the redirect, but why did you delete it. Rather than recreating the page to add the Template:DisambigProject could you please undelete and add the tag removing the redirect, keeps the history which given the move i don't see as a bad thing even though redirects are cheap.Blethering Scot 18:43, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Done. However, please note that talk page redirects resulting from page moves are WP:CSD#G6, and are routinely deleted. Please note, also, that page histories are maintained in order to attribute authorship to those who write the materials that are presented in Misplaced Pages. There is no authorship inherent in a page move. Cheers! bd2412 T 20:17, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Disambiguation

BD - I filled out the rest of Fort Fisher and did all of the Battle of Corinth links at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Military history#Disambiguation help needed., but that's about the extent of my knowledge. If no one steps up to do the other ones, I may put my nose to the grindstone and try to figure out what is what, but I'm relatively inexpert at 20th century conflicts. Cdtew (talk) 18:44, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, very much appreciated. bd2412 T 18:45, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Tabitha (given name)

The standard title for given names articles seems to be Name (given name). I am also trying to avoid having the given name page turned into a disambiguation page. The title of the article should be moved back immediately to Tabitha (given name) and the disambiguation page should be separate. --Bookworm857158367 (talk) 20:28, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

First, you are flatly wrong about the standard title. See Category:Given names; the vast majority of pages on given names are at the base page name. Compare also names like Brian, Roger, and Samantha. Second, do you understand that, per WP:MALPLACED, if Tabitha is not a page on the given name, then the disambiguation page must be at the base page name? In any event, there is nothing to disambiguate, period; per MOS:DABNAME, "Articles only listing persons with a certain given name or surname, known as anthroponymy articles, are not disambiguation pages". Since there are no meanings for Tabitha other than as a given name, there is no reason not to conform to the standards of this encyclopedia. Cheers! bd2412 T 20:46, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
See also User_talk:Bookworm857158367#Given_name_stubs. PamD 09:37, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
An unfortunate trend. If this editor persists in pressing his misunderstanding of article-naming policies, a topic ban might be in order. bd2412 T 13:32, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Disambiguation

Yes, better wording. I had two drafts from stream of consciousness and tried to make a coherent whole but came in just shy of the mark. :-) Carlossuarez46 (talk) 01:53, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages manuals considered harmful

Hi, thanks for the note on 2-entry DABs. Now I will have to find another sense and start another article, just to save that page. 8-)
However, please ponder about this: "whenever an editor is told to go read a style manual, Misplaced Pages loses another editor."
A couple years ago I analyzed the growth of Misplaced Pages, and it was clear that the editor base has been falling exponentially since 2005-2006. It was steadily losing old editors and failing to recruit new ones. I presume that the trend has not improved. Wikiprojects and talk pages now seem to be deserted dusty halls, feel tempted to write "Hello! Is anybody home?"
To me, the cause of the problem is clear: editing has become forbiddingly hard, even for seasoned editors. The vast number of finnicky rules, and their obsessive enforcement (no matter how gentle) by veteran editors, are a big part of that problem.
If I were you, I would advise every editor, whenever I had a chance, to not read any of the manuals or rules. Instead, editors should just look at other articles, and try to imitate what they see and like, and improve on it if they can.
And if I were top honcho of Misplaced Pages, The first thing I would do is rm -rf wiki/Wikipedia:*. That would go a long way towards saving this project.
All the best, --Jorge Stolfi (talk) 14:25, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Yes, the rule is reasonable, and I might have done it that way if I had thought more about it. But I was trying to sort out half a dozen articles at the time... (But having a manual page about it? That, I am afraid, does more harm than good...) All the best, --Jorge Stolfi (talk) 15:51, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Revert of change to redirect

Hello. You reverted a change to a redirect. I presumed that edit would have been non-controversial in substance. The redirect, as it stood, did not even direct to a "Thema". In contrast, the diambig that was created as a target included a number of actual Themas, as well as the original target.

You cited WP:MDP.

According to that wikiproject page, I gather that "Thema" should link directly to what is now the "Thema (disambiguation)" page, but should be named "Thema". (As the wp project page says, "This situation is avoidable, as the disambiguation page can exist at Foogle.").

That would be best, I think, as Thema properly refers to a number of articles where Thema is significant in the name of the article: such as Thema (rapper), Thema International Fund, Thema macroscia, Thema psammoxantha, Thema Mundi, Thema protogramma, as well as Thema syneidiseos. That's in addition to the target that you re-created for the phrase, which fails to even have "Thema" in its name -- Theme (Byzantine district).

Thoughts?--Epeefleche (talk) 20:02, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

The fact that there are a large number of possible meanings is the beginning of the inquiry, not the end of it. As you can see, for example, there are a large number of meanings at George Washington (disambiguation) and Apple (disambiguation), but that does not make these the base page names appropriate for disambiguation. The next question is whether there is a primary topic for the term that can be determined from incoming links, page views, and Google hits for the various meanings. In this case, all of the incoming links appear to relate to the Byzantine district. If you disagree with this assessment, the venue for making such a change is Misplaced Pages:Requested moves, where a request can be made to move the disambiguation page to the undisambiguated title. bd2412 T 20:19, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
I would think that there are a large number of titles that use that name, but that the one redirected to does not use the name "Thema", would be of moment. And yes -- whenever we have a redirect that is longstanding the incoming links will point to it. That's no mystery. Anyone creating a link to Thema for another reason will automatically see that it points to the wrong place. Or, if they don't, our bot will tend to remind them. It is self-propagating.--Epeefleche (talk) 21:24, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
It may be, but it may also represent settled expectations. Since it is incorrect to redirect a base page name to a page with a "Foo (disambiguation)" title, what you are seeking to do here is to effect a page move. The discussion following a page move request will flesh out these issues. I am in the process of bypassing all of the redirects on these pages in case it is, in fact moved. bd2412 T 21:28, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
Great. I know that is tedious work, so thanks. I'll wait till the dust clears. Have also added additional themas to the dab page. It is worthy noting, btw, that the target that you reverted to does not attract the most page views of those articles currently on the dab page. Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 21:58, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
While significant, that too is not the end of the inquiry. Is the "most attractive" article a partial title match for which the word "Thema" alone unlikely to be used? I don't know, but these are things to be brought up in support of a move request. bd2412 T 23:45, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
I'm really failing to see anything convincing (to me) for creating a link to an article that: a) fails to even have "thema" in its name; and b) has half the page views of another article on the disambig page. That's half the views even with everyone looking for any other "Thema" ending up on its page. The only thing I can imagine you are considering is long-term usage. But I've just brought to AfD and had deleted pages that were marked for notability five years ago. Nobody paid attention. That happens all the time. That, for example, is why long-term usage on wp is not generally a consideration at AfD or similar places. Indeed, the hatnote on this page was long-term unhelpful, as it failed to point to nearly all the other articles now on the disambig page. I really am surprised that you would restore a link under these circumstances. Non-controversial doesn't mean one couldn't make a poor defense for it as the target; it means that looking at the facts, dispassionately, one sees that there is not legitimate reason to link the article to the current target. Such is the case here. We're not even arguing over whether to link the phrase to the article with twice the page views. Just to the disambig page. Clearly, your direct to the current target send most people to something other than the most read article. We don't need to have a community discussion over things that, legitimately, are non-controversial.--Epeefleche (talk) 01:57, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
As I have said, if you wish to have the disambiguation page moved to the base pagename, make a request at Misplaced Pages:Requested moves. That is the appropriate place for the discussion part of the WP:BRD cycle to be carried out. bd2412 T 02:09, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
I heard that. I apparently didn't make myself clear. --Epeefleche (talk) 02:21, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
Is Lancia Thema the "other article on the disambig page" to which you refer? bd2412 T 12:54, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
Yes. I only checked a couple, but saw that one had twice the page views of the current target.--Epeefleche (talk) 13:52, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
I have initiated a move discussion at Talk:Thema (disambiguation)#Requested move. Cheers! bd2412 T 16:30, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
Many thanks for the kindness. Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 16:55, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
  • Thanks for going above and beyond to make sure that at the end of the day, whatever was the correct result would be reached, here. Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 19:35, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
    • There is one remaining incoming link to that page, on an index of philosophy terms. If you could figure that one out, I would certainly appreciate it. Cheers! bd2412 T 21:11, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
  • Done. There does not appear to be an article on the term at the project, so it is now a redlink.--Epeefleche (talk) 21:23, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

WP U.S. Supreme Court Cases in the Signpost

The WikiProject Report would like to focus on WikiProject U.S. Supreme Court Cases for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to SCOTUS cases and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Multiple editors will have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions, so be sure to sign your answers. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. –Mabeenot (talk) 13:22, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Your edit rate,

I'm seeing 6 or 7 entries of you in Recent Changes at a time. I don't know what you think, but many bots don't edit this fast. Command and Conquer Expert! review me... 05:13, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I'm fast. bd2412 T 05:14, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

notification of current state of work title capitalization rules discussion over at WT:MoS

Hi. As you're one of those folks who contributed to the work title capitalization rules discussion over at WT:MoS but then seemed to tune out (and therefore – as opposed to the "MoS regulars" – probably didn't follow it any further), I just briefly wanted to point you towards my latest post there (beginning with "As there has been little progress"), which might well be the last overall: I'm phasing out, and since there hasn't been much input by other users lately, it's likely that over the next few days, the thread'll die (i.e., disappear into the archives) without there having been made any changes to the MoS. So I'd be much obliged if you took the time to stake your support for or opposition to my proposal (should I also have put an RfC tag there?) and – unless it's accepted (I'm not holding my breath...) – maybe even considered keeping the debate going. Thanks. (I'm aware of the unsolicited nature of this message, so if you feel molested by it, I apologize.) – ὁ οἶστρος (talk) 14:25, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Aqueduct

Hi. Instead of simply marking every instance of "aqueduct" as needing disambiguation, why not actually disaqmbiguate them yourself? Most of the time the meaning is clear, and when it is not immediately so, a small amount of research will give the answer. This would be much more helpful than simply tagging the word and leaving the work for someone else to do. Thanks. Beyond My Ken (talk) 19:32, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

The article split seems somewhat nuanced to me. I will go back through and try to pick some off, but I would leave it to the experts who are likely watching the articles to take the first shot at fixing them. Cheers! bd2412 T 19:34, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
I note that the target pages are still under discussion. It is probably best to wait until the dust clears from that process before going about fixing large numbers of links. bd2412 T 22:27, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Give Me Your Hand (Best Song Ever)

Sorry, you can't A7 a song or record. The performer has an article, so A9 would be out too. As it's a single, you could try prod. Peridon (talk) 21:02, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

  • Prodded. Cheers! bd2412 T 22:28, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Rihanna articles

Sorry for that, but I was really pissed of at the redirect of the article page. Currently this is active. And the real title of the album page should be only 'Good Girl Gone Bad' because it's the most notable of all. So for now you can fix the refs mistake, please. — Tomíca 16:28, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Sure, on it now. Cheers! bd2412 T 16:31, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
I've gone through my edit history and reverted the three instances where I made that error. Since it looks like the discussion will resolve the disambiguation links issue, I'll stop this series of fixes now. bd2412 T 17:04, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
Okay. Thanks ^.^ — Tomíca 17:06, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for help on Bank stress tests

BTW Happy Birthday! Thanks for help on Bank stress tests. There is still some proposed deletion of the stub articles that describe the annual programs but hopefully that can be resolved. Misplaced Pages:Articles_for_deletion/2011_Comprehensive_Capital_Assessment_Review_(CCAR)

I saw your strong background in law and wanted to put in a plug for a law topic upgrade and perhaps an area that could capture your intellectual imagination?

  • Regulatory capture in general.
  • Regulatory_capture#American_examples see specifically: CFTC, Federal reserve, OCC, SEC sections
  • Example legal research article on deep capture ]. I don't have a legal background and all the stuff on legal theory was like visiting the land of Oz to me. However fascinating!
  • example of regulatory capture (not much regulatory response) 2012 JPMorgan Chase trading loss
    • however as of yesterday Senate Investigations ] may at least conduct hearings? ] That group does some nice investigative work ]. I took a look at that Wall Street report and noted 11 Senators, Staff Director, Chief Counsel, Chief Investigator, 4 law clerks, a research clerk, 5 Counselors, Detailees from DOJ, GAO, ICE, SEC; professional staff, consultants, numerous senator's staff, chief and senior investigators, tens of thousands of pages of documents, etc. yet ultimately, not a lot of actual regulatory action?
  • Elizabeth Warren came out swinging a few days ago ]

Rick (talk) 19:55, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

I'm an IP lawyer - I avoid banking law like the plague! Well, perhaps not quite that much. bd2412 T 03:12, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Intellectual Property can't (for the most part) be economically protected. I remember when Corning sued Sumitomo over blatant violation of their IP rights to single mode optical fibers. During the march to a slow and expensive, but surely thought to be "just and equitable solution" in a clear cut case, Sumitomo managed to successfully ex-appropriate via deposition every last one of Corning's top scientists daily detailed notebooks, complete with the results of years of incredibly expensive research. As Sumitomo paid their paltry fines on the IP infringement they snickered, having obtained an incredible treasure trove of Corning's expensive research for pennies on the dollar.

Take a look at that stuff on Regulatory Capture, Posner and the article on Deep Capture. It all applies just as well to USPTO functioning "for the public good" as it does to banking. When the system is radically broken it needs to be fixed. Rick (talk) 05:26, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Satellite Direct disambiguation page deletion, please block Satellite Direct TV article from possible creation.

I know that having information about a topic on a disambiguation page is not a very common practice, however I felt that there should be something in Misplaced Pages about the Satellite Direct TV marketers. Since you apparently feel otherwise, that is okay, but could you please block the Satellite Direct TV article from possible re-creation? I do not want to see those marketers attempting to use Misplaced Pages for their advertising purposes again. Thanks, Scott P. (talk) 20:54, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

The reason we don't have information about topics on disambig pages is that disambig pages are only navigational aids. Think of a disambig page like the index of a textbook. You wouldn't expect to see anything substantive there, just the pages where things can be found in the book itself. However, it may be that there is another article on the topic that should mention something about the company in question here. bd2412 T 21:08, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
Regardless, could you please reset the block against the creation of a Satellite Direct TV page? I had asked another administrator to unblock it so I could create an article, but then I realized that the company was too scuzzy to deserve a regular article. Thanks, Scott P. (talk) 23:15, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
Done. Cheers! bd2412 T 04:40, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Advice please

Avoiding Edit wars...

Sirs: I wish to dearly avoid an edit war. There is an article that has one source, and I am looking for other sources, as I have read the other source, and seen the other source, neither of which I can document now, but easily more noteworthy than the current source. ( the primary source is dead, but it has been documented twice outside the web, ( unfortunately before I was born )).

I made the changes, but was reverted without discussion or notice.

Article: Light-Foot. Source: Time Life Books on computers. Source: Computer History Museum.

Would you suggest, I got to the museum, take a picture of the wire ( that predates me. ), and post it? Would that be original research?

The email I got back from the museum: "Oh those idiots? The wouldn't know the truth if it was drilling into their thick skulls.", personal email.

What to do next? I reverted my changes, then re-reverted them, so the page is as as stands. 67.180.156.92 (talk) 00:46, 22 February 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.180.156.92 (talk)

Happy Anniversary

Hi BD2412. Congratualtions on making it to the 8 year mark. Very few Wikipedians have been here this long. The community and the project are very lucky to have dedicated editors such as yourself and I thank you for all the time and effort you have donated to the project. Your efforts benefit all of humanity and you and your family should be very proud of this accomplishment. Thank you. 64.40.54.147 (talk) 01:51, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! bd2412 T 03:56, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Sex Positive

Thanks for your note about the disambiguation and you prefering to keep Sex Positive for the film. I tried to revert to what you say, but couldn't achieve the reversal for some reason myself either. But I have no opposition if you want to make Sex Positive film entry the main and you know your way around. We can always make Sex Positive (disambiguation) and keep the main Sex Positive for the gripping documentary. But you should know I have done huge improvements for all those who visit the page now. This is what we had on 19 February 2013 before I intervened: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Sex_Positive_(film)&diff=528140238&oldid=527881460 This is what we have now after my edits of 20 February http://en.wikipedia.org/Sex_Positive_(film) I am so glad about it. I was watching the film just being fascinated and blown away by this Berkowitz guy.... and I was passing the changes while following the film... werldwayd (talk) 03:29, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Done. Cheers! bd2412 T 03:56, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Admin's Barnstar
Per barnstar definition. For sustained daily tedious but needed admin tasks. Respectfully. In ictu oculi (talk) 02:27, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
Many thanks, my friend. bd2412 T 02:57, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Disambiguation

Can you please take a look at MRSA? Someone has fixed all the incoming links, but I'm sure this fairly common term will continue to attract more links if it remains as a dab page. Thanks. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 12:31, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Based on the statistics, I have proposed a move and redirect. Cheers! bd2412 T 15:00, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

DC happy hour on Thursday, February 28!

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High water mark

Great job on this article; it's worlds better than the shabby dab that was there before. Keep up the good work! --BDD (talk) 02:29, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! bd2412 T 02:30, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

WikiProject Cleanup

Hello, BD2412.

You are invited to join WikiProject Cleanup, a WikiProject and resource for Misplaced Pages cleanup listings, information and discussion.
To join the project, just add your name to the member list. Northamerica1000 14:11, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, BD2412. You have new messages at Talk:Bank stress test.
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RadioFan (talk) 17:23, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Trot

Mike Cline reversed his close of your move request. We have at least a 4:2 or better vote, but maybe need more supports. Just an FYI that it's still open. Montanabw 00:53, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Invitation to a discussion: Misplaced Pages and legislative data

Hi BD2412, since you are interested in meetups in DC, I'd like to invite you to attend the Cato Institute's "Misplaced Pages and Legislative Data" events on March 14. (There's also an all day workshop on March 15; let me know if you are interested, we may be able to add more people.)

There will be an introduction to Misplaced Pages and open edit-a-thon in the afternoon, and a Sunshine Week Reception in the evening. I hope you can make it!

Hope to see you there! -Pete (talk) 19:02, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

DC meetup & dinner on Saturday, March 9!

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Nomination of List of papabili in the 2005 papal conclave for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of papabili in the 2005 papal conclave is suitable for inclusion in Misplaced Pages according to Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Soviet?

Just a heads up: you might want to double check the edit summary used here and elsewhere. Zagalejo^^^ 04:22, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Oops - yeah, that one is from the last round of these. bd2412 T 04:23, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of Immunity (reality television) for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Immunity (reality television) is suitable for inclusion in Misplaced Pages according to Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. AldezD (talk) 19:19, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

You are invited to a Women in the Arts Meetup & Edit-a-thon on Friday, March 29

In honor of Women's History Month, the Smithsonian and the National Museum of Women in the Arts are teaming up to organize a Women in the Arts Meetup & Edit-a-thon on Friday, March 29, 2013 from 10:00am - 5:00pm. The event is focused on encouraging women editors while improving Misplaced Pages entries about women artists and art world figures. This event is free of charge, but participation is limited to 20 volunteers, so RSVP today! Sarasays (talk) 23:07, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, BD2412. You have new messages at LittleWink's talk page.
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LittleWink (talk) 17:01, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Would you be able to assist with "fixing" some syntax in Template:Disambiguation?

I was looking at Template:Disambiguation and Template:Disambiguation/doc a little while ago, and I found an issue that might have been accidentally caused by a category deletion in conjuction with the move discussed/suggested by you at Misplaced Pages talk:Disambiguation/Archive 37#Category:Chemistry disambiguation pages and Category:Molecular formula disambiguation pages; per the doc, and as proven on the article Fluor, the {{Disambiguation|molform}} tag puts the tagged article into the non-existent Category:Molecular formula disambiguation pages. Unfortunately, I am both not very versed in how to find out how this link is happening in the source code for Template:Disambiguation, nor can I edit this template since I am not an administrator. Would you be able to take a look at Template:Disambiguation and see if the syntax causing that tag to link to Category:Molecular formula disambiguation pages could be removed? Steel1943 (talk) 04:23, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Disregard. Seems I shall post this as an edit request on Template:Disambiguation itself then. Steel1943 (talk) 18:02, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Usurpation of Charm on English Misplaced Pages!?!

Hi Esteemed BD2412: I have just noticed a post from you on my Talk page saying that User:Charm has been usurped at "English Misplaced Pages". Based on what I see here, I assume you meant to tell me the account was usurped on the French Misplaced Pages? I shouldn't be worried about someone else trying to usurp on English Misplaced Pages, right? Charm © 21:07, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Oops, actually it's English Wikiquote! bd2412 T 01:19, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Proposal to unblock etc.

Hi BD2412, thanks for that proposal to unblock Kalki. I really think unblocking him is the only sane thing to do. I got a bit carried away, and I realize that most of my comments on that page were unnecessarily counterproductive (sorry for that) hence I will try to refrain from making further remarks there. I really wish your proposal to be successful. Best regards, DanielTom (talk) 10:10, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

@BD2412: It is very much to your credit that you are willing to give Kalki a second chance. If K. is unblocked, I certainly hope that you never have reason to regret it. Best, Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:11, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
I can assure you, if I were given any such reason, I would not hesitate to reimpose the block with a note that the generous provision of a second chance had been provided and misused. However, I am reasonably confident that Kalki, despite his eccentricities, would behave. bd2412 T 04:11, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Ilario Antoniazzi

Dear BD2412, good morning! I onlny would like thank you for the help you gave me in this page I made yesterday.

I'm not native English speaker, and I would like to know if I can ask your help again for the future. I promise: 1-2 help request each month, ok?

Have a nice day and thank you again

Rex Momo (talk) 06:53, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Unblock

Per an AN discussion you started, I have unblocked that user. You may want to watchlist User talk:Kalki and look in on his contribs from time to time, but that's up to you. — Ched :  ?  21:17, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, already watchlisted and under watchful eyes. Cheers! bd2412 T 21:20, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
Cool. You've been an admin. a lot longer than I, so I kinda figured you had - just covering my own backside. :-) — Ched :  ?  21:53, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
For getting Kalki unblocked!!! DanielTom (talk) 21:48, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

soFLY & Nius move discussion

Hi BD2412,

I have a question for you, just to understand how it works. How come someone can move a page with no consensus asked or else, and it needs a consensus to move it back to the real name ? I just don't get it. And why does it need a consensus when the official and only name used by the artists is soFLY & Nius and not SoFly and Nius ?

Thank you, Koffey (talk) 07:10, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

The rule is set forth at Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style/Trademarks. It is fine to move a nonconforming page to a title that conforms with the rule; where the rule is to be overridden, consensus is needed. bd2412 T 11:58, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

DC meetup & dinner on Saturday, April 13!

Please join Wikimedia DC for a social meetup and dinner at Vapiano (near Farragut North/Farragut West) on Saturday, April 13 at 5:30 PM All Misplaced Pages/Wikimedia and free knowledge/culture enthusiasts, regardless of editing experience, are welcome to attend! All ages welcome!

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Mapping the Global Economy

Would you be interested to help me on this project? https://meta.wikimedia.org/Global_Economic_Map

I am trying to duplicate this economic report for all 196 countries. Would you be willing to contribute by duplicating this model for another country?

United States: http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_the_United_States

China: http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Mcnabber091/sandbox

Mcnabber091 (talk) 05:39, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Input requested

You tagged a page for merge a while back at Health department - there are now two separate discussions that would welcome your input. (1) whether we should still do the merge (no dissenting views yet on this, so seems to be yes), and (2) whether we should rename the article. Thanks. --Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 19:42, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

DC meetups on April 19 and 20

Wikimedia DC invites you to join us for two exciting events this weekend:

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On Saturday, April 20, we've partnered with the George Washington University to host the All Things GW Edit-a-Thon at the Teamsters Labor History Research Center. Please join us for behind-the-scenes tours of the University Archives and help edit articles about GWU history.

We look forward to seeing you at one or both of these events! Kirill  20:01, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Article move

Hi, Self promotion needs moving to Self-promotion for the correct spelling. Can you sort that out? cheers, Rd232 17:40, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Done. Cheers! bd2412 T 20:24, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

CYCLE 16 Contestants

Wait? AzMarie? how about in Cycle 16 made a page for Alexandria Everett or Hannah Jones too :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by GTPMF (talkcontribs) 03:32, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I can't say I know what you're referring to. bd2412 T 03:34, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Chet Holifield Building

Hi there, I ended up on the Chet Holifield Federal Building page and noticed that it was listed as a courthouse of the Southern District of California. As far as I can tell, it's neither a courthouse nor in the S.D. Cal. jurisdiction, so I removed the reference. It looks like you created the page and you certainly have a lot more experience/clout around here than I do, so I wanted to give you a heads up. (As a very occasional editor, I also wanted to say thanks for the hard work you guys do.) Swsail (talk) 04:29, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know, I'll look into it. Usually, my information comes from the GSA or the FJC. bd2412 T 11:28, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
Having looked at every possible source, you are absolutely right. This building has never been designated to serve as a federal courthouse. There is, of course, always a chance that some court proceedings were conducted there in a pinch, but I have not found even that. Cheers! bd2412 T 19:35, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Sorry

Looks like I reverted you this morning. I can only guess I managed to press rollback whilst editing on my iPod. Sorry! Bevo74 (talk) 18:58, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

No problem. You're a good editor, so I figured it must be something like that. Cheers! bd2412 T 19:34, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
Thanks Bevo74 (talk) 20:46, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

EEOC members' notability?

What is your feeling on (Senate-confirmed) members of the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission? Are they inherently notable, do you think? I don't know if consensus ever has been reached on this subject? Curious what your thoughts are before I go and create a page or pages that might be at risk of being deleted. Thanks! Jarvishunt (talk) 20:17, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

I don't know that I would say they are inherently notable. They are appointed for relatively short terms (five years, as compared to fifteen for Federal Claims judges, and lifetime appointments for Article III judges). We could start with an article listing all who have served and providing the dates of service, appointing presidents, senate votes, and so forth, and then determine who on that list merits an article for other reasons. I suspect that it will be relatively easy to find that EEOC appointees either were previously well-published academics, or became such after serving. bd2412 T 23:35, 30 April 2013 (UTC)