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| ] makes it sound so easy... | |||
| The admin previously known as Snowspinner. | |||
| So I figured why not try it? After all, I've been here for two and a half years. I've got a pretty good idea of what we're doing here. Why not just stop worrying about what all the policy pages say today, and about what the process to list something on AfD is? | |||
| ==== | |||
| So I'm not anymore. I understand ], ], and I especially understand ]. I understand what an encyclopedia is. I understand how to do good research. (I'm a professional academic - I teach people how to do good research. I know this stuff.) | |||
| ==Expertise and deletion== | |||
| So as of today, I'm just going to go ahead and edit. Lord knows the rules are making me nervous and depressed. So I'll follow all the stuff I can remember, and not try too hard to learn the other stuff. If I can't remember how to list something for AfD today, I'll just use PROD. If I can't get it deleted via PROD, I just won't delete it. Someone who remembers how to use AfD can do it. If I can't remember how many warnings a vandal gets, I'll just zap 'em for 24 hours two warnings early, and call it a day. If I can't remember the status of blogs and personal websites as they apply to a specific topic, well, I'm a professional researcher. I teach people how to research. I'll trust my judgment. | |||
| If you can verify for me that you are a subject expert in a subject considered notable enough to include on Misplaced Pages, I will, on your say-so, close any deletion debate as "keep" within your field of expertise, and will undelete any articles within your field that you say are notable. | |||
| Note that this means that if you cite a policy page to me and expect me to carefully divine the meaning of section 14, paragraph 3, clause 2 of it, odds are I'll just say "Yeah, but what's ''wrong'' with what I'm doing?" "It violates policy" isn't enough. If it's against policy, it must be bad for some reason, so just explain to me what it does that's bad. | |||
| ] | |||
| Otherwise... well, you might drive me off the page, but you sure ain't gonna convince me. | |||
| ==User recovery== | |||
| In the meantime, I'll be keeping ] updated with anything I run into that's just impossible to handle without checking lots of policy pages. I'm doing this not so much because I'm trying to find the essential policies as because I'm trying to find the broken ones. I figure anything so complex an admin who's been editing for two and a half years can't do it is fundamentally broken. | |||
| If you need access to a Misplaced Pages article that has been deleted, ask me. If it's not a copyright violation, libel or similar, I will make the text available to you. | |||
| Not that I'll be the one to fix it. I've got an encyclopedia to write. | |||
| Note that using the text to recreate the deleted content is speedyable, and using it to keep it hanging around in your userspace has gotten editors penalized before. But that's your problem. | |||
| ] | |||
| ==Other stuff== | |||
| ] | |||
| "Deficiency in judgment is that which is ordinarily known as stupidity, and for such a failing there is no remedy." - Immanuel Kant | |||
| Is it ] yet? | |||
| {{pic of the day}} | |||
| ==Memorable Moments== | |||
| A few milestones from my talk page. | |||
| === Barnstars === | |||
| ] ]]] | |||
| , I hereby award ] this ] for exhibiting just the right amount of whimsy at just the right moment. ] 21:29, 2005 Mar 26 (UTC)]] | |||
| ===Sysop=== | |||
| After a new record of 62 votes in your favour at ], you are now an ]. When you get over the shock of having such a scary number of people voting for you, you should read the relevant policies and other pages linked to from the ] before carrying out tasks like deletion, protection, banning users, and editing protected pages such as the ]. Most of what you do is easily reversible by other sysops, apart from page history merges and image deletion, so please be especially careful with those. You might find the ] helpful. Good luck. :) ]] 17:56, Jul 31, 2004 (UTC) | |||
| ===Lir=== | |||
| Don't talk to me. ] | |||
| ==Common Sense== | |||
| Misplaced Pages policy, or, at least, what exists of it in a codified fashion, is exceedingly well written, flexible, and, on some occasions, manages the rare feat of being funny as well. In general, though, official changes to policy are slow to come, and are most effective when they follow from things that are already semi-common practice. In other words, policy is descriptive, not proscriptive, and practice may change before policy. | |||
| There is a school of thought within Misplaced Pages that there exist policies that are not written down. I am a firm believer in this school of thought. The rules of Misplaced Pages are not a suicide pact, and attempts to slavishly follow the rules when one of the rules is to ] is an exercise in absurdism. | |||
| To put it another way, from IRC: | |||
| Raul654: oh, and snowspinner, I've come to a conclusion | |||
| Raul654: making policy on wikipedia is hard | |||
| Raul654: because there are people who oppose any common sense measures | |||
| JamesF: Raul> Indeed. | |||
| Snowspinner: Yes. I came to that conclusion as well. | |||
| Raul654: I have decided that it's better to shoot first and ask questions later ;) | |||
| Snowspinner: Cool. | |||
| Snowspinner: I'm in that camp too now. | |||
| Raul654: seriously | |||
| Raul654: don't worry about making common sense policy | |||
| Raul654: just do things with common sense | |||
| Raul654: and wait for policy to catch up | |||
| Use common sense. | |||
| ==I'm not a goddamned inclusionist== | |||
| Last time I did newpages patrol, my delete rate was over 2/3 delete. | |||
| I am not a goddamned inclusionist. | |||
| I agree to ] all my contributions as described below: | |||
| {{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}} | |||
| All we are saying is give jackbooted fascism a chance. | |||
Revision as of 00:27, 16 September 2006
Misplaced Pages:Policy trifecta makes it sound so easy...
So I figured why not try it? After all, I've been here for two and a half years. I've got a pretty good idea of what we're doing here. Why not just stop worrying about what all the policy pages say today, and about what the process to list something on AfD is?
So I'm not anymore. I understand WP:NPOV, WP:DICK, and I especially understand WP:IAR. I understand what an encyclopedia is. I understand how to do good research. (I'm a professional academic - I teach people how to do good research. I know this stuff.)
So as of today, I'm just going to go ahead and edit. Lord knows the rules are making me nervous and depressed. So I'll follow all the stuff I can remember, and not try too hard to learn the other stuff. If I can't remember how to list something for AfD today, I'll just use PROD. If I can't get it deleted via PROD, I just won't delete it. Someone who remembers how to use AfD can do it. If I can't remember how many warnings a vandal gets, I'll just zap 'em for 24 hours two warnings early, and call it a day. If I can't remember the status of blogs and personal websites as they apply to a specific topic, well, I'm a professional researcher. I teach people how to research. I'll trust my judgment.
Note that this means that if you cite a policy page to me and expect me to carefully divine the meaning of section 14, paragraph 3, clause 2 of it, odds are I'll just say "Yeah, but what's wrong with what I'm doing?" "It violates policy" isn't enough. If it's against policy, it must be bad for some reason, so just explain to me what it does that's bad.
Otherwise... well, you might drive me off the page, but you sure ain't gonna convince me.
In the meantime, I'll be keeping User:Phil Sandifer/Process blog updated with anything I run into that's just impossible to handle without checking lots of policy pages. I'm doing this not so much because I'm trying to find the essential policies as because I'm trying to find the broken ones. I figure anything so complex an admin who's been editing for two and a half years can't do it is fundamentally broken.
Not that I'll be the one to fix it. I've got an encyclopedia to write.