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Hi, I noticed that the plot summaries at The Musketeers (2014 TV series) were directly copied from this Facebook statement by the BBC. Is this allowed, and generally done in TV series? Thanks, Matty.007 17:44, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Adding a category

I think a category called something like "court cases that got extensive media coverage" or something that says a similar thing but is more succinct would be a really helpful category. Is there any way to add that category? Bali88 (talk) 17:08, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

What to do when a Bigwig insults you in edit summaries?

This one takes the biscuit. I have noticed some misuse of edit summaries by people who apparently should know better. One could say they may be used as building blocks in a straw-man ad-hominem attack. Surely there must be a platform somewhere in the wiki forums to challenge accusations made in edit summaries? One of my edits was reverted and my edit summary was called dishonest, making it appear that I had done something other than what in-fact was done. It is not very pleasant to be called dishonest when everything has been done in good faith. Any help or suggestions would be welcome. Thanks :) F.Tromble (talk) 15:55, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

You can discuss the matter at a talkpage, or provide a link for other wikipedians to take a look at the problem.Yutah Andrei Marzan Ogawa (talk) 16:07, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Assuming you are speaking of the edit summary of the revert of your edit on Seraya Shapshal, I must say that I partially agree with both sides here. I do believe that your main intent was to correct the awkwardly-reading sentence. Rewording "history Dejudaization Doctrine" to "historical doctrine of Dejudaization" is indeed a correction of grammar. Same for piping the wikilink to make it the adjective form needed rather than the noun it was.

The issue seems to be with the other part of your edit, namely your addition of "According to Roman Freund". Whether it was done to correct the way the sentence read, or to fit with the source/attribute the claim, it did change the meaning of the sentence somewhat. Although "according to " does not mean it isn't or can't be according to other people as well, it can easily (and probably will) be read that way, which would be a change of the sentence's meaning and thus not fall under bad grammar correction in the literal definition. However, I believe that your change was in good faith, and that the edit summary of the person who reverted you could have been a bit kinder.

I can however see where they are coming from. It does happen frequently that people try to "slip by" a change in a sentence's meaning under claims of grammar or spelling correction, and changing a broad claim ("this-and-this is") to a narrow claim ("according to person, this-and-this is") without explanation of that change can be seen as POV-pushing by trying to marginalize a claim. Although that may not have been your intent, I can see how it could come across as such. The grammatical part of your change seems to have been accepted and added back into the article. What you (and with you, I mean both you and the people that reverted you) should do now is discuss (that is, explain why it should or should not be there) the wording of the other part on the talkpage, rather than reverting back-and-forth. The edit-summary was not very gentle and I do honestly believe that some more good faith should have been assumed. However, neither was yours when you re-reverted it (what with it containing near-identical wording) and you too did not seem to assume good faith regarding their edit. AddWittyNameHere (talk) 17:55, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Also, speaking of ad-hominem and personal attacks... your use of Bigwigs in the subjectline of this question pretty much is a personal attack. AddWittyNameHere (talk) 17:59, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Opeining and Closing Credits?

I am wondering if opening and closing credits are reliable sources? My opinion, is that it is not reliable at all. However, Misplaced Pages does not work with opinions. Therefore, is there somewhere I can find my answer? Thanks.  — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 11:24, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

@SoapFan12: Hey SoapFan12. They are in general reliable sources though of course they are primary sources. You say it is your opinion they are not. What do you base that upon? A television show or movie's statement of who did what is generally highly controlled and accurate recitation of bare facts, and there is no synthesis, interpretation, or evaluation needed to extract them. On the other hand, you have not stated whether this relates to a specific matter. Knowing the specifics is always crucial to see whether there are special circumstances involved that diverge from the general rule. For example, if you wanted to cite who did the lighting on some show during some episode, credits would appear reliable and are probably the only source for that information. If, on the other hand, you are trying to use the credits to source that the spelling of a fictional character's name was changed because in an early episode it was spelled one way that is slightly different than in later episodes when it is given as some actor's role, we are in very different territory. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:56, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Adding and replacing photographs in articles.

Is it allowed for a new Wikipedian to replace photographs by another wikipedian in a certain article be replaced with better ones? For example, if an article has an old photograph of a place and I have a new and a good copy of the same place, am I allowed to remove the existing photo and replace it with my photo?

Thank you!

Thebrowniris (talk) 04:21, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Thebrowniris. Yes, it is allowed, and that is considered a bold edit. But reverting your edit is also allowed. And when two or more editors disagree, the matter should be discussed on the article's talk page. We call this the BOLD, revert, discuss cycle. But let me suggest another possibility:Perhaps the article would benefit by having both an historical photo and a contemporary photo? Cullen Let's discuss it 04:47, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Agreeing with Cullen, there is one exception. If the current picture is being used under a claim of fair use and your picture is either compatibly and freely copyright licensed or is in the public domain, you should immediately replace the current picture with yours and remove the old one. Conversely, if the existing picture is either freely copyright licensed or is in the public domain and the one you are talking about is not, you cannot use it and the current one should remain.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:27, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for the help. :)

Thebrowniris (talk) 07:10, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

What to put on my talk/user pages

Hello, I'm really new to wikipedia editing, and I have found that I have a user page and a talk page. Is there anything that I should do to those? Or should I just leave them blank for now? Please respond as quickly as possible. Colin H. (talk) 21:24, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi, welcome to the Teahouse. Your user page can contain some information about yourself, what you are working on in Misplaced Pages, and any other information for Misplaced Pages users.

Your talk page is for others to communicate with you. For example, you might have seen my response through a "talkback" message on your talk page. At the top you should put some notices that will help those who wish to talk with you. (One such notice is {{busy}}, which tells others that you may take some time to respond.) --Anon126 (talk - contribs) 22:02, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

I wouldn't say you "should" put any notices on your talk page. You can choose to do it but most users don't, and that's perfectly fine. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:17, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

The only thing that "should" be on your user page, is something... so it doesn't show up marked in red on the history pages! Ellin Beltz (talk) 00:24, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

There's nothing wrong with red links. Leaving it empty is fine too. Rojomoke (talk) 13:08, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Looking for the author of an article

How does one know the 1. original or initial author of an article. 2. author of the sections within an article, especially for an article that has been created for about five, six years ago and has undergo several edits. Thanks Emekadavid (talk) 20:05, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello Emekadavid. To find out about past editors in a given article, go to the article, and click the history tab at the top of the page. That is the revision history of the article. Once there, you can see who edited what, and when...all the way back to the beginning if you go back far enough. Vjmlhds (talk) 20:32, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

For articles with large histories, identifying who added what particular text can be done manually (e.g., by going back by halves) but it's a pain the the ass. We have some automated tools to help. See Misplaced Pages:Tools#Finding the responsible user. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:33, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

references

I'm trying to add references but it seems to have hit a max number of entries. Is there a limit? or how do I make more space for more references

Sjwiki2014 (talk) 19:58, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello, Sjwiki. When referencing an article, be sure to put reference tabs at both the beginning and end of your source, like this <ref>______</ref>. Be sure to do that for each reference. See if that helps. Vjmlhds (talk) 20:36, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

already banned, need alot of help

I am a new editor and im already banned, I attempted to follow rules and when I made edits I was banned, said some silly things and then was increased, whatever. I understand. Now its about to be lifted but it seems many editors admins have a disdain for me and I already have a bad reputation. There is so much that bothers me, that others can get away with so much in self promote / conflicts of interest / spam /book spam/ etc.. and I can even add legitimate information without being attacked. I really want to start on a clean slate, They literally rolled back about 20 pages of edits that were very resourceful and legitimate. I cant even speak to anyone because they already have so much hate for me in their heart. I don't hate anyone, I just want to start on a clean slate and do everything right without having to deal with these issues. Why is it they turn a blind eye to some users but me I dont even do anything wrong and I am attack viciously. I really want help with this. I would appreciate any help than can be provided.Drinkreader (talk) 19:33, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi Drinkreader, welcome to the teahouse. The account Drinkreader is not blocked, and has never been banned. If you edit constructively and respond to the concerns raised on your talk page, then you shouldn't have any further problems. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:44, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

The account has now been blocked, for one week. WP:ANI#Mint Julep, clear vandalism. --ColinFine (talk) 22:49, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Advice for Expansion of Health Equity Article

Hi All, As it stands, the article on Health Inequity is inadequate; the scope of the article is limited to covering inequities in North America, namely the US, but fails to address the issue elsewhere. Given that one of Misplaced Pages’s core principles is that encyclopedic articles should be comprehensive, and represent a complete worldview of the subject when appropriate, this article has a good amount of room for improvement. I propose the rewriting of this article, separating any relevant information on the US into a new article titled Health Equity in the US, and rewriting parts of the original article with a focus on global Health Equity. As of now, I plan to tackle the new article from a systematic approach, identifying the patterns that underlie inequity like gender, sexuality, location, socioeconomic inequality, and writing about them in the context of specific nations/studies. Any suggestions, comments or questions about my proposal would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Jpoles1 (talk) 18:59, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi JPoles1, welcome to the teahouse. I'm not sure if moving material about the USA into a separate article is a good idea; then we end up with Health Equity in India, in France, in Chile and so on. Why not move USA-related material into a separate section within the existing article, or balance it by including material about the situation in other countries? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:47, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Would you necessarily consider separate articles on Health Equity in different countries an issue? Misplaced Pages is meant to be an encyclopedia, so as long as reputable information on a subject is available, why shouldn't an article on inequity in various nations be written at some point? The beauty of Misplaced Pages is that it is both expansive and open-access, writing on important issues with even more detail simply enriches the total knowledge available on Misplaced Pages for the public to access.

Best,

Jpoles1 (talk) 16:17, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

how do I create a new page, i.e. a new article?

Where do I go - what buttons do I press please, to create a new article - a new page? Thank you. Beryl reid fan (talk) 18:22, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

As you have already created three articles:-

• Four Dimensions of Greta
• The Nine Lives of Tomas Katz
• House of Mortal Sin

this seems an odd question to ask - but you could start with WP:Your first article - Arjayay (talk) 18:34, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, that's great - my other articles were for films that had existing links to their unmade articles - but I'm starting from (sort of) scratch now. Ta. Beryl reid fan (talk) 19:12, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. The welcome message on your user talk page has a number of useful links, including Your first article. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:31, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks v. much Beryl reid fan (talk) 19:12, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Adding references

I seem to keep getting in a knot trying to add references. I can add the link but then don't understand the code for describing what the link leads to. I have tried and failed on my editing of the Philip Bounds entry and also with my attempts to edit the Arthur Munby entry. Could someone help me and give me an example please? Many thanks in advance. CaryB42 (talk) 12:02, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi Cary, the video found at WP:REFBEGIN should be of help :) Samwalton9 (talk) 12:15, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

@CaryB42:Hey Cary. You seem to be having trouble filling out the citation templates you are using. The citation templates all take the form of a wrapper code and parameters that you fill out in between. Using cite web as an example, the wrapper is {{cite web|...parameters...}}. The parameters in between always take the form of a pipe ("|"), followed by a parameter name like "url", followed by an equals sign, and then you supply the appropriate text. If you visit the page for any given template, it will tell you what parameters are available for it. Cite web that you used is at Template:Cite web.

So, you added to Philip Bounds this code: <ref>{{cite web|url=http://philipbounds.wordpress.com/}}</ref>. That was successful in that the code is correct, but as you can see in its display, it's telling you that it requires a "title" parameter. That requires just adding to it |title=supply the title. But actually, for full attribution, you'd want to add more. Here's my suggestion for a fully filled out template here (I've used colors to demarcate separate elements):

<ref>{{cite web|url=http://philipbounds.wordpress.com/|last=Bounds|first=Philip|title=About Dr. Philip Bounds|publisher=Wordpress.com|accessdate=February 9, 2014}}</ref>

Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 16:05, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Fuhghettaboutit,

That's what I need, that's brilliant, once someone gives me an example I'm ok because I can work out the logic of it. CaryB42 (talk) 19:37, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

4Shared video

I want to quote a link to a video from a TV News Channel, but this video had been deleted from Youtube.com , so I wished to used its saved version of 4Shared.com . But Misplaced Pages had listed 4Shared on its blacklist. What can I do? Marici Punarvasu (talk) 05:42, 9 February 2014 (UTC)Marici Punarvasu 9Feb2014Marici Punarvasu (talk) 05:42, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello Marici Punarvasu. It may well be that the video was deleted from YouTube because it was a copyright violation. 4Shared.com is a website that allows any user to store and share data. That may include copyrighted material without permission of the copyright holder. Accordingly, Misplaced Pages does not allow links to this site. A link to the TV news channel's official website would be allowed, since there would be no copyright violation. Cullen Let's discuss it 06:21, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

You should cite the news program, not a particular upload of it. So for example I used a reference like this;

Presenter: Ian McBride (8 May 2012). "A failing school fights back". 4 minutes in. Meridian Tonight. ITV Meridian. {{cite episode}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |episodelink= (help); Missing or empty |series= (help); Unknown parameter |city= ignored (|location= suggested) (help)

As I originally used it, I filled out the URL field because there happened to be a linkable uploaded version of the news program; but if such an upload does not exist, one can just cite it as above (i.e. leaving the URL field blank). --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:53, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Which release date should I use?

I have recently edited Summertime Sadness and added several release dates to the release history. Since I was unsure about the record label according to my source (iTunes), I went to international Amazon websites to see if they would help. When I did, I found they had a different release date then the iTunes source (31 July 2013 instead of 23 July).iTunes Italy: (https://itunes.apple.com/it/album/summertime-sadness-lana-del/id674105345?i=674106241&l=en&ign-mpt=uo%3D2); iTunes France:(https://itunes.apple.com/fr/album/summertime-sadness-lana-del/id674105345); Amazon Italy:(http://www.amazon.it/Summertime-Sadness-Cedric-Gervais-Remix/dp/B00EA0TH32/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1391913725&sr=8-1&keywords=summertime+sadness); Amazon France:(http://www.amazon.fr/Summertime-Sadness-Cedric-Gervais-Remix/dp/B00E9VVTVU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1391913770&sr=8-1&keywords=summertime+sadness)

After some research, I found Amazon and iTunes sometimes have different release dates.

Should I just use the earliest release date?

Thank you, Moonchïld9 (talk) 03:12, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi, Moonchïld9, and welcome. I think that both iTunes and Amazon are not reliable sources. You should find some reliable source for the release date (see: Misplaced Pages:Identifying reliable sources). Vanjagenije (talk) 15:37, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Article denied

Hosts, I attempted to write an article about an Army battalion in Hawaii, but since there is another history on military.com Misplaced Pages denied my request. How do you get these articles approved if much of the history repeats despite different wording? Thanks, Joe 72.130.229.147 (talk) 01:44, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello Joe. When writing an article, it is best if multiple sources are used for references. This way, the chance of an article being thought of as merely a copy of a single source is reduced greatly. Try finding both primary and secondary sources...the more references, the better. Vjmlhds (talk) 03:20, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Notice of wikipedia problems

Dear all,

someone can explain me why since some days the \begin{align}\end{align} is no more recognised from the compiler in wikipedia? if you look at the mathematical pages they are full of error messages. Is it temporary?

thanks

Volk the (talk) 16:21, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

You'll see this mentioned at WP:HD#all <math> are not working and 3 previous threads on the same page, together with WP:VPT#Math aligned environments failing to parse and Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Mathematics#Problem with multiline equations. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:30, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Will my contribution stay without a source?

Under "gillnetting" I added some information about types of gill nets. I received a message that my information may be removed because I did not provide source information. With over 50 years experience in the fishing net business, I am the source. Will the information I added be removed?Benny Champlin (talk) 12:53, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi, although you may have 50 years of experience in the fishing net business, Misplaced Pages's policy prevents you from citing your own experience as a source. You must cite a reliable source along with the information in order for other editors or readers to verify that it is true. (For more information, take a look at this page.) Yutah Andrei Marzan Ogawa (talk) 13:06, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi Benny Champlin. The above answer is quite right. Simply put, Misplaced Pages demands verfiability in all things, and this has to be published, reliable sources rather than editors' own authority. As well as being the only viable method for having reliable content, this also acts as a useful filter preventing Misplaced Pages becoming an arbitrary collection of data. If reliable sources discussing some information can't be found, it's probably a good sign that Misplaced Pages shouldn't discuss such a topic one way or another. Providing reliable sources shows that both information is correct, and that is has been of sufficient importance to have attracted documentation. --LukeSurl 14:49, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi! One other thing you can do, is put the information on the talk page of the article and ask the watching editors for help finding the citations. I have learned all sorts of interesting tidbits this way by helping find citation for a known item. And you can probably more easily find the citations than anyone else. You know the professional magazines, publications, best books and so on to support the information that you know! If you need help with citations, I'd be happy to help you, just leave me a message about what you need and I'll do my best! Ellin Beltz (talk) 22:06, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Actually, Benny Champlin your additions were reverted because they were a copyright violation from Gill & Trammel Nets - The Fish Net Company LLC. That is a copyrighted website, and you can't just copy and paste that content into this encyclopedia. It simply isn't allowed here. Cullen Let's discuss it 05:19, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Re-submitting already existing articles?

The article Singularity theory has multiple issues. I am working on it. I will soon be finished. What shall I ask for the paper to be reviewed in order to eliminate the comments at the top of the article? Shall I ask for a publication of a major change in the article? Coffeebrake60 (talk) 12:10, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

If you are satisfied you have fixed the issues the tags refer to, you can remove them yourself :). --LukeSurl 14:33, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

As regards the "needs additional citations" tag, we should be looking at having inline references within each section to verify the information. Please have a look at Misplaced Pages:References for beginners. --LukeSurl 14:35, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Can I create a wikipedia page for a company I work in?

Thanks for youy simple answer to that 82.242.136.146 (talk) 11:00, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi and welcome to the teahouse! You CAN, but you probably shouldn't. Have a read of Misplaced Pages's Conflict of Interest guide, and also the guidance for notability of companies. If your company is notable by those standards you can create an article, though I would suggest you use the Article Wizard and submit through the Articles for Creation process so that other editors can check the article before it is published. Remember that it will not be published if it does not conform to the notability criteria though. Samwalton9 (talk) 11:44, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

i'm bored

wondering how do I find new people after their first post so that I can let them know how to use wikipedia? Kap 7 (talk) 10:52, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi Kap, you could look at the new user log if that's any help? Samwalton9 (talk) 11:44, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Hey, I appreciate your help but that's not quite what I was looking for :( I'm sure a bot could welcome everyone that is new ... I was looking more to help people that have actually made an edit in a personal way *shrugs Kap 7 (talk) 12:44, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

People needing individualised help with Misplaced Pages editing often turn up at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk. For example, there are ten unanswered help requests there as of right now. Help requests here at the Teahouse and (usually) at the Help Desk tend to get answered much faster. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 13:12, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks to both of you for pointing me in the right direction Kap 7 (talk) 22:29, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Can I start editing?

1}How do I get invited to the TeaHouse? I have already introduced my self as a guest..

2)Now that I have learned few basics of editing by reading Misplaced Pages:Tutorial, can I start editing pages I like?? Catalena55 (talk) 10:15, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi Catelena! You're already invited, though strictly speaking everyone is welcome here, whether they introduce themselves as a guest or not :) As for your second question, of course! Anyone is free to make edits to Misplaced Pages; that's the idea! Well done for making sure you know what you're doing before editing though :) Samwalton9 (talk) 11:46, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Converting USER: page into Misplaced Pages page?

I'm new to writing articles but have successfully created a USER: page; how is this converted into an ordinary Misplaced Pages page? 86.136.207.251 (talk) 09:02, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi, firstly check that you're logged in before you reply; I can't see your user page because you're posting whilst not logged in. Second, you shouldn't create draft articles in your user space, but rather in your sandbox (which you can reach with the 'sandbox' button in the top right of any page), or in Draft space. If you log in and reply, or reply with a link to your user page, someone can move it to a more suitable location. Samwalton9 (talk) 11:48, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello. I'm a little concerned from the way you posed your question, that you might have tried to write an article about yourself in your user page: if that is the case, please read autobiography, to find out why this is strongly discouraged. Sorry if I've misunderstood you. --ColinFine (talk) 22:35, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

How to create a disambiguation?

The page "Isolated Singularity" needs a disambiguation:

• "Isolated Singularity (Complex Analysis)"
• "Isolated Singularity (Singularity Theory)"

There is a discussion going on at this article. Just because this disambiguation was not introduced. The present text refers only to the Complex Analysis concept. Could someone explain me how to do it? Thank you! Coffeebrake60 (talk) 08:29, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Can I introduce a disambiguation? Coffeebrake60 (talk) 08:15, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

We don't capitalise normal words in article titles so if anything it should be something like "Isolated singularity (complex analysis)". But the handling of ambiguous names depends on many circumstances, for example whether a new article is created. It's unclear to me whether you want to do that, or discuss another meaning of "Isolated singularity" in an existing article, or something else. There is a general guideline at Misplaced Pages:Disambiguation. If you want a more specific answer then please be more specific about what you want to do. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:33, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Secret rule changes

I would like to ask what purpose the rules serve if certain editors are allowed to ignore them?

Two such instances occurred recently on article David Petraeus in direct contravention of two separate rules.

David Petraeus edit history

Further reading shows a claim of a consensus that permits editors to violate the rules.

If such consensuses really do happen, why do they not update the rules to reflect these changes, rather than continue to allow those editors involved having to issue confusing edit summaries and unfair warnings to editors not aware of these secret rule changes? 69.251.213.135 (talk) 08:22, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello 69.251.213.135, and welcome to the teahouse. I'm not particularly clear on what rules you believe to have been broken on David_Petraeus by whom; maybe you could be a bit more specific? In generally most wikipedia rules are made by consensus and they can thus be over-ridden by consensus. Stuartyeates (talk) 09:13, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Same article, different tongues...

What happens if there is an article in two different languages that has different information (or similar), is there a fine line between borrowing from each to make them both great or is this line not permitted to cross? (Or if it doesn't exist in your language, and you would like to make one...?) Thanks Savvyjack23 (talk) 07:37, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi savvyjack, do you mean a copy on another language wikipedia (like the french one?) Samwalton9 (talk) 11:58, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Yes, precisely! Savvyjack23 (talk) 15:43, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Well the usual requirement for reliable sources would still apply, but you're more than welcome to find sources found on that article in the one here. Foreign language sources are needed too, since the English wiki uses them much less than english language ones! Samwalton9 (talk) 15:54, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello, Savvyjack23. There's no requirement that articles on a subject in different language Wikipedias have the same information; but you are welcome to add information to one that you find in another, provided the information you are adding is reliably sourced (according to the standards of the Misplaced Pages you are editing - the criteria may vary from one language Misplaced Pages to another). So if you want to add some information for example from a French article to an English article on the same subject, you need to have a reliable source for that information. Ideally the French article will contain a source, and provided that source is regarded as reliable by the standards of English Misplaced Pages, you can use it to support the information you are adding to the English article. (If you can find a reliable source in English, even better, but a reliable source in another language is acceptable). What you should not do is to use the other-language Misplaced Pages article as a source (Misplaced Pages is inherently not a reliable source, since anybody may edit it): if the information is unsourced in the original article, please don't add it to the article in the other language unless you can find a reliable source for it. --ColinFine (talk) 22:31, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

want to write about a famous TV & entertainment personality. her videos are uploaded on youtube, how to pursue.

want to write about a famous TV & entertainment personality. her videos are uploaded on youtube, how to pursueStardiaries (talk) 05:30, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello, welcome to the Teahouse! Here's what you need to do:

1. This is perhaps the most important step. Many articles fail here. Make sure you can find independent, reliable sources of information that discuss her. This is called notability, and it is required for being included on Misplaced Pages.
2. Make sure you know how to edit a page, and learn the basics of code using the cheatsheet.
3. Learn how to cite your sources: See the introduction to referencing (a quick tutorial) or referencing for beginners (more detailed information).
4. Head to articles for creation, where you can submit an article for review to see if it is ready for Misplaced Pages.

If you need help going through this process, please reply. --Anon126 (talk - contribs) 06:26, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Advice sought on rejection notice

Ref: Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Draft:Nigel Randell Evans

This page was recently rejected for the following reason: 'Still not seeing a significant claim for Filmmaker notability, which is the best claim being made.'

The British Film Institute link at the article's conclusion lists over 40 films he produced and/or directed, included ones that have won awards and the first film shown on the UK's Channel 4 - Walter - starring Ian McKellen and directed by Stephen Frears.

If more sources are required I have a few scanned articles that can be linked to in the references (although I need advice on how to access an embedded list). However, I would value independent advice on the reason for rejection and the best course of action from here.

Jamesd.evans (talk) 00:47, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi Jamesd.evans! Possibly the problem with Draft:Nigel Randell Evans is that the claims of importance are buried in lots of personal information and film synopses. The only possible claim of notability I can see, is his creation of the Silent minority TV film, which received a lot of attention at the time. If it created a "furor" (or won any awards) then you'll need to explain that, rather than launch into a description of the documentary's content. You'll also need to cut out a lot of the biographical personal information, which is largely unsourced. I'd recommend the article is pruned right back.

Your user name suggests you are Evans' brother. If that is the case, it will be difficult for you to write succinctly and neutrally, which is why we usually discourage conflicts of interest. Sionk (talk) 01:18, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks very much Sionk

Jamesd.evans (talk) 02:12, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

How should this be responded to?

Hi,
I was just reverting with Huggle when I saw a post to this talk page that looked very...odd. I didn't know what to make of it, and I wanted to bring it to the attention of some more experienced Wikipedians. So, I posted here. What should one do in this type of situation?
Thanks!
Sincerely,
Cogito-Ergo-Sum (14) (talk) 00:26, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

It's now been blanked, which is the correct thing to do when someone uses an article talk page for a screed that is completely and entirely unrelated to the article in question.

The blanking has also blanked the phone numbers the individual provided, which is the recommended course of action for privacy purposes.

If the individual had included threats of violence against themselves or others (they didn't), then emailing the WMF's emergency email address would have been the appropriate course of action (per WP:Responding to threats of harm).

What do I make of the message itself. Well, the person tells us that their written complaints to their local police and to local human rights organisations have been rejected. So, this is their written complaint to Misplaced Pages instead. Unfortunately, however, Misplaced Pages is not a forum for publicising or dealing with complaints that are not about Misplaced Pages. In addition, the person mentions that at one point they were taken to a psychiatric hospital against their will. This may help to explain the tone and content of their message; but again it's not something Misplaced Pages can help with. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 02:26, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

That odd edit has been reverted. Crazy happens :) However, since this revision appears to contain personally identifiable information (whatever the provenance), maybe we could get an admin to hide it from the page history? - J-Mo _{Email Me} 02:39, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the responses. How do we get the edit deleted from public view? Cogito-Ergo-Sum (14) (talk) 18:40, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Where did my un-reviewed article go?

Hi, I started an article, got about three paraghraphs in and submitted it for review. THEN I created a login for myself. So it appears that the article I created isn't linked to me. At least, I can't locate it.

I have some photos to add, and I want to get back in there. Where'd it go? Thanks Frankienkatie (talk) 20:38, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Telling us the name of the article would help. I expect it's at Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/YourArticleNameHere, where "YourArticleNameHere" should be replaced by whatever name you chose for the article. Regarding the photos, are you aware of the copyright concerns? Huon (talk) 21:04, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Hey Frankienkatie. As Huon says, it really would help if you told us the name or your best recollection of the name. Anyway, assuming you actually and successfully saved the page while editing as an IP, and a search of what you think it was called is not finding anything, you might try looking at your IP address's contribution history. To do this, log out, then type somewhere on Misplaced Pages (anywhere) the four tilde signature code (~~~~), then click "show preview" and then click on the IP address revealed. Unless your IP address has changed since you edited with it (which is possible), you should see the page you saved listed. Also, if he page was deleted, you might look at your IP address's talk page for a deletion notice. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:27, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Is this your article? Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Mike Gonzales (Athlete) Theroadislong (talk) 22:38, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks everyone for the replies! Yes, Theroadislong, that's it! I just returned to find that my article was accepted. Whew! Thanks again for the help! 132.239.142.130 (talk) 23:46, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

citation

the page I was creating is Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Mojdeh Marashi was rejected can someone help?Zoe amico (talk) 20:25, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi, Zoe amico, and welcome. You're article was rejected primarily because of bad wp:referencing. It has only one wp:inline citation, and even that one in a wp:bare URL. Misplaced Pages articles need to have multiple reliable, independent sources that significantly cover the subject (see: WP:42). Your reference pint to a web page that does not even mention Mojdeh Marashi. Your external links also point to some web pages that either do not mention him, or mention him just in passage. You have to improve referencing if you want the article to be accepted. Vanjagenije (talk) 22:16, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi my page was rejected can someone help?

the page I was creating is Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Mojdeh MarashiZoe amico (talk) 20:23, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

• See #citation.

I improved my citations, will my article be approved?

Hi there, I keep trying to add new citations to this article and somehow they are not showing up. How do I make sure they are in line for review?

https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Sarah_Jio

Wanderingone12 (talk) 18:37, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi, Wanderingone12, and welcome to the Teahouse. How do you mean "they are not showing up"? I see you added some citations. They are visible, but the problem is that they are contrary to the Misplaced Pages policies regarding references. So, your article will most certainly not be approved. Misplaced Pages articles need multiple reliable sources which are independent of the subject and which significantly cover the subject (see: WP:42). You added five references, but all five are the same. All point to the personal web site of the article's subject (and so they are not independent, nor reliable). So, basically, your article does not cite any reliable independent sources. Vanjagenije (talk) 22:04, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you so much. I keep trying to add multiple additional sources but they are not saved and won't show up. Am I doing something wrong? I've saved the edited draft several times...

Wanderingone12 (talk) 02:27, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

They are saved. Those sources you added are either not independent ( and is written by Sarah Jio) or do not have significant coverage ( and just mention her). They are also in the form of bare URLs. This needs to be fixed. Vanjagenije (talk) 15:28, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Just curious

It's taken me a while to get into the spirit of wikipedia and before I prepare my next article, I'd like to know if someone can help me find out where the first one might be waiting for review. Is it the day you re-submit that counts or the first upload? It was a bit flamboyant so I was declined 3 times. Thanks Graffitinucular (talk) 17:16, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi, Graffitinucular, and welcome. I don't understand what is actually you question? You article is here: Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Alex Martinez, Graffiti Artist and it is currently waiting to be reviewed again (for the fourth time). What kind of help do you need? Vanjagenije (talk) 21:55, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi Vanjagenije The backlog is around 3 weeks now. Does resubmitting put you at the very beginning each time when declined as I've been? Quite deservedly of course. Now the article is fixed. Cheers Graffitinucular (talk) 22:17, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

I am not working on the Articles for creation review, so I'm not sure. But what I am sure is that your article is not "fixed". Every statement in the article should be properly sourced using inline citations. Your article does not even have a source for his birth year. You write that he began "his serious U.S. career in early 2000", bust this is also not sourced. Vanjagenije (talk) 22:26, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Wow, every single one of the reviewers gives a different critique, while existing street artists in Wiki have far less citations than my article. Yunshui (talk) helped me out with this version, are you saying he's wrong too? 78.146.17.152 (talk) 07:00, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

It's now cut down to 13 sentences peppered with 16 inline citations. I do appreciate being held to high standards. See anything else that needs fixing? Thanks Graffitinucular (talk) 09:56, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Correction, make that 18 inline citations. Graffitinucular (talk) 11:01, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

What to do if you think a political/religious party is POV pushing on several articles?

I have come across my first unfriendly editor on wikipedia reverting a couple of my good faith edits using a very accusative tone. Inspired by a combination of curiosity and paranoia, I did a couple of investigations and discovered that he has been involved in significant conflict over an issue related to the edit he gave a dishonest edit summary concerning. Moreover, two other users who responded to my edits on other topics related to the same subject were also involved in that conflict. One of them only appeared in time to support the other two then disappears for months at a time and only edits articles related to the subject. It certainly seems something fishy is going on, sock-puppets? Are there any users experienced with how to investigate this sort of thing who I could email about it? I only created my account recently and would rather like to continue plodding along gently before getting involved in politics, but if there is a committed dedicated to such things I do think they should be informed. Many thanks. F.Tromble (talk) 14:31, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello, welcome to the teahouse, thank you for mentioning fish. Not sure if I should be adding to his workload when he's already doing everything, but a good option would be to email User:Mark Arsten. --Demiurge1000 (talk)

Thank you for the suggestion Demiurge1000 F.Tromble (talk) 17:59, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

The alternative to curiosity and paranoia is to supply the RS supporting your edits, discussing them on the talk page - especially when the edits contradict the consensus. Неполканов (talk) 21:38, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Неполканов's comment above fits into the pattern of strange behaviour from certain editors which I mentioned above. Is my edit history in your watch-list Неполканов? And aren't you the one who I have been asking to provide RS to support your edits Неполканов? And when have I opposed consensus, aren't you the one who suggested re-naming a locked article Неполканов? Finally, do you feel like my question applies to you Неполканов? Let's look at your edit history shall we Неполканов? Very interesting. Now who is being paranoid? F.Tromble (talk) 17:59, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

User:F.Tromble, you've been editing only two weeks and you already did edit war against consensus twice - at Babai the Great and Seraya Shapshal. For the past few days, you've also been forum shopping without informing the other parties in the conflict, in all cases grossly misrepresenting the nature of the conflicts. Contribs can't be put on a watchlist as far as I know, but if they could then yours should be. By all counts you are edit warring, POV pushing, uncivil and a little bit sneaky. Seriously, if you keep editing like this for even another two weeks you're going to bring a lot of unwanted attention to yourself. MezzoMezzo (talk) 06:59, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Information regarding a company

Hello, One of the articles i have written isnt accepted within the Wiki article format. I have written clear facts regards a company and non bias points. What am i missing?

Regards

Shaunsdata (talk) 12:11, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

I assume you mean Tlc domestic services? Misplaced Pages does not aim to have an article about every company in the world. That would be millions and millions of articles. We only have articles about companies that are "notable", you can find out what this means at Misplaced Pages:Notability (organizations and companies). Because the article that you wrote presents no evidence that the company is notable by these standards it will be deleted. --LukeSurl 12:22, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Welcome, Shaunsdata. What you are missing is sufficient material to assert that the company is notable together with sufficient references to verify that notability. The references must come form reliable sources, too, so it's quite arduous to create a new article, the more so when you are new here.

Part of the challenge you face is learning your trade. You might find User:Timtrent/A good article worth a detailed read.

Keep asking questions as you learn. Fiddle Faddle 12:24, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Round Table

Dear fellow writers, I have written an article on a round table concept set up recently in Frankfurt, Germany. I would like to link it to other organisations, that have a similar concept. Basically bringing in Small and Medium Size Entities together, for an informal evening of presentation and socialising.

Does any one know of such website on Misplaced Pages?

Best regards, param 94.219.16.225 (talk) 09:45, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello. Unfortunately the article you have written, German Malaysian Round Table - GMRT has more serious problems. Firstly a Google search for "German Malaysian Round Table" pulls up nothing apart from this article and a corresponding page on the German Misplaced Pages which says that the German Misplaced Pages has deleted an article with that name twice. From the content of the article, and phrases like "If you need more information on GMRT or are interested to initiate your own chapter in your city of residence contact us at..." show that you are trying to use Misplaced Pages as a supplement to your existing web presence. Misplaced Pages is not a free web host, and it is detrimental rather than useful for Misplaced Pages for companies and organisations to use Misplaced Pages for the same purposes as their main websites. It is almost certain that this article will be deleted within a few days. --LukeSurl 10:22, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse! I have tagged German Malaysian Round Table - GMRT for speedy deletion as an article about a club or group that does not credibly indicate the significance or importance of the organisation. To enquire about the existence of websites that have a similar concept to your group, you could try asking at Misplaced Pages:Reference desk/Computing. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 10:24, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Nominating an article for deletion

Hi all,

I wanted to ask for some advice regarding nominating an article for deletion. I was originally planning to rewrite this article Art of Murder: Hunt for the Puppeteer as the flow and grammar were quite poor, but after giving it some thought, I believe the game has very little notability and was wondering if the right thing to do was to nominate it for deletion?

Please could someone have a quick look and give their opinion. I don't want to do the wrong thing and upset someone!

Thanks Lucyloo10 (talk) 09:19, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Your first instinct is correct. With the exception of copyright violations (and some irredeemably terrible articles) deletion is almost always a question of notability. This seems to be a notable game, so it would be much better to rewrite. Feel free to be very WP:BOLD in the material you remove from the article. In my opinion the article would be better replacing the entire plot section with a one-paragraph summary. --LukeSurl 10:10, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your help. Its a bit of a minefield when you first start out and I didn't want to do the wrong thing. Cheers for taking the time to help out :) Lucyloo10 (talk) 10:22, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

About the copyrights of the corporate logos

Hello guys, I just wonder whether the Corporate Logos that are released from the corporate's official website UI page or that are to be found online easily, but are neither consisted of a sequence of letters or words nor first published 90 years ago, violate the Misplaced Pages copyright regulations....? If not, can I upload the image files? In that case, would be the appropriate copyright tag? Hansel Mar (talk) 04:12, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello Hansel Mar. In general, corporate logos are copyrighted, and can't be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons under a Creative Commons license. However, under the legal principle of fair use and our guidelines on use of Non free content, low resolution copies of corporate logos can be uploaded here on Misplaced Pages for strictly limited use, for example in the article about that company. Follow the procedures in that guideline carefully. Cullen Let's discuss it 04:17, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

how do I create a sub-page or sub-section in my sandbox

I'm having trouble creating a sub-section in my sandbox Maidmarian55 (talk) 03:42, 7 February 2014 (UTC) --75.173.140.58 (talk) 04:05, 7 February 2014 (UTC)How do I create a subpage

Hello 75. My best advice would be to go to WP:About the Sandbox, which will show you all the ins and outs of working with your sandbox. Vjmlhds (talk) 04:17, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

@Maidmarian55: Hi Maidmarian. A sandbox is any subpage of your user or user talk namespaces that you are using as a draft place to work (there is also a new draft namespace but I don't want to go too far afield), and it takes the name form of: Your username, followed by a forward slash ("/"), and then a title (which does not need to be, or literally include, "sandbox", which is just a synonym for a workspace and has no special property vis-a-vis the software – it's just the word we use). Thus, User:Maidmarian55/SomeName, if you create it, e.g., by typing ], previewing or saving that somewhere thus displaying a red link (User:Maidmarian55/SomeName), and then creating that page, will result in a "sandbox" for your use.

Accordingly, when you created User:Maidmarian55/sandbox/Assignment Section, you successfully created a sandbox, though there was no need to include "sandbox" in the title; it could have just been User:Maidmarian55/Assignment Section.

But it would probably be best to create intuitively named sandboxes. So, for example, as I see a focus of the assignment includes subjects related to the New Mexico State University, if you were to try your hand at an article about the NMSU Arthropod Museum, a good sandbox name would be User:Maidmarian55/NMSU Arthropod Museum. Then work on the content there until satisfied (making sure to cite to reliable sources and avoiding copying and pasting anyone else's work from anywhere). When it's ready for the mainspace, it can be moved there. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:27, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Reference Help

I'm trying to create a new article, but keep getting this error message. What am I doing wrong?

There are <ref> tags on this page, but the references will not show without a {{reflist}} template (see the help page).

Rebecca — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rjvisser (talk • contribs) 23:18, 6 February 2014‎ (UTC) - (user had tried to sign, but signature wasn't processed because of the ref tag without nowiki)

Try Referencing for beginners. I added nowiki tags to prevent the quoted wikicode from messing up display of the Teahouse. Cullen Let's discuss it 23:41, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Note that in the error message which you quoted, the words "help page" were in blue, indicating that they were a wikilink. In this case, the link would take you to specific advice for the error on your page. --David Biddulph (talk) 02:47, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Just starting out on an article

I'm just starting to write an article. It is on an article for creation page. I need time to put it together and will becoming back to it and making changes before final submission. My question is simply that if I hit the save button, it saves my work somewhere and I can come back to it and make changes before the final hotshot submission?

Bruce Rout (talk) 23:10, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. As you have discovered since you wrote your question, you can save updates to Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Roxy's Ruler and keep coming back to update the draft until you are ready to submit it for review. Another option would have been to have started your draft as a userspace draft. Another editor has added to your user talk page a welcome message with numerous useful links, of which Your first article will be of particular relevance to you. --David Biddulph (talk) 02:01, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

How do I tag an article for something like copyright violation or Vandalism?

I am wondering just in case anything popped up in a article :)

Thanks,

Happy Attack Dog (talk) 23:04, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello, Happy Attack Dog. You do not need to tag copyright violations or vandalism. If you are sure that those issues exist, then act immediately. Remove any content that is a copyright violation, and revert or delete any vandalism. Please be aware that vandalism has a narrow definition here. Vandalism is defined as a "deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Misplaced Pages. Examples of typical vandalism are adding irrelevant obscenities and crude humor to a page, illegitimately blanking pages, and inserting obvious nonsense into a page." If an editor contests your reversions, please be prepared to explain them. Thank you. Cullen Let's discuss it 03:00, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Although I included plenty of citations, the article was denied because of notability and citations. Someone that is published in a book on Oxford University Press and has multiple newspaper articles and blogs written about them should be considered notable, right?

Although I included plenty of citations, the article was denied because of notability and citations. Someone that is published in a book on Oxford University Press and has multiple newspaper articles and blogs written about them should be considered notable, right? Maybe I'm not using citations correctly, but I've tried to include as many as possible

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Doug_Siebum

Thanks 24.7.74.26 (talk) 21:32, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello, welcome to the Teahouse. I declined your article back when it had significantly fewer citations. It has a higher chance of being accepted now. Please note, though, that I have removed reference groups that caused many of the references not to show. You should continue to improve the references by adding more information to them and using an acceptable date format. --Anon126 (talk - contribs) 22:22, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello. Being written about in newspapers certainly contributes to his notability. His own publications mostly do not, and being written about in blogs almost certainly does not. --ColinFine (talk) 09:19, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you ColinFine. None of the citations listed were his own publications although I think someone else listed one as his own. Thanks for the information though. I thought that public blogs about someone would be an acceptable source.

Also, Thank you Anon126 for the review. This is an almost overwhelming process for me. I never knew that wikipedia could be so complicated. Thanks for taking the time and if I can find anything else, I will add it.2601:9:200:51F:BDA8:881:5FAB:B6CF (talk) 10:22, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Getting started with a basic description page for a US company

Hi, I am John Novack, with the company Inspire, of Princeton, NJ. I created a profile https://en.wikipedia.org/User:Inspiredotcom and tried to write a basic company description, but frankly I don't know what happened to it, and I want to either retrieve that draft or delete everything and start over. Thanks. Inspiredotcom (talk) 15:05, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. Misplaced Pages does not have such a thing as a "profile".. There are user names, and yours is User:Inspiredotcom, for your account which was created in December 2013. More significantly, Misplaced Pages has articles on subjects which meet its notability requirements (and you need to check the link to see what Misplaced Pages means by notability). Back in 2009 another user, User:Veenadavidson, tried to create an article Inspiredotcom but it was deleted as "Unambiguous advertising or promotion". It was also a copyright violation. Some details of the problems, and links to useful advice (including on conflict of interest), are at User talk:Veenadavidson. As well as reading that previous advice, you now need to be aware that your username, giving the impression that it represents an organisation rather than an individual, is not acceptable, so you need to read WP:CORPNAME and choose a new user name to represent you as an individual. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:26, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Just to note, what was created was an Articles for Creation draft at Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/About Inspire. Thanks, Matty.007 19:10, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

... though the AFC mentioned was not created until some time after the original question. --David Biddulph (talk) 20:09, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

So it wasn't. Sorry, I probably should have paid more attention to the times. Thanks, Matty.007 20:12, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for this feedback. Unfortunately, what happened in 2009 has nothing to do with my employer, Inspire, of Princeton, NJ. In Dec. 2013 I tried to set up here as a company profile, and "Inspire" was not available as a username so I went with Inspiredotcom. Apparently, that tied me somehow to the 2009 actions of someone in the UK. Can I just change my username then? Thanks again. Inspiredotcom (talk) 22:56, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Having now looked at Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/About Inspire, I see that you have misunderstood the purpose of Misplaced Pages. It is an encyclopedia, not a place for posting a "company profile" to advertise the company. More seriously, Misplaced Pages cannot accept copyrighted material. I included a link in my earlier answer to WP:copyright violation, but it appears that the material in your AFC draft is drawn almost entirely from copyrighted material at http://corp.inspire.com/about/ and http://corp.inspire.com/about/board-of-directors.htm , so it will have to be deleted. If you are the owner of the copyright you could donate it using the procedure at WP:donating copyrighted material, but in general material from company websites is too promotional to be appropriate for an encyclopedia, which is looking for a neutral point of view. You need to read about editing with a conflict of interest (which was another link I gave in my earlier answer). --David Biddulph (talk) 02:21, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Attribution

An article was written that took work from my nonfiction book without permission. It also included a photo from the book without attribution. I am very upset. It took me years to write my book and another one is going to be published soon. Stealing is not okay! What can I do?162.224.120.52 (talk) 13:54, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi, 162 and welcome. This is a serious matter, called a copyright violation. Can you point us to the article and the part that is copied so that it can be removed? Thanks, --Jakob (talk) 13:59, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

120.52, are you referring to File:Andrew Cap Tilles, Young Man, Late 19th Century.jpg and Andrew Tilles? --Anon126 (talk - contribs) 16:21, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

A substantial portion of the article on Andrew Tilles was lifted from my book without permission. My photograph was also taken from my book without permission. I spent a great deal of money to have the photo restored. I am livid. I spent years researching my first book. How can I get the name of the contributor? I want the article removed. Since the author is also claiming to be in the midst of writing further articles that probably come from my book, I want to ensure that they are not published.162.224.120.52 (talk) 21:09, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

If the photo in question was published in the United States before 1923, as the image file asserts, then the image is in the public domain, and can be freely used by anyone. If you are kind enough to retouch a public domain image and then put that improved image on the internet, then the image is still in the public domain. If you believe that the image is not in the public domain, then please explain why, and if there are facts that I am not seeing so far, then we can take whatever action is appropriate. The article Andrew Tilles cites many sources, but the one used most is a book called Talk with Tilles: Selling Life in Fort Smith, by Nancy Ellen Carver. If the article summarizes and properly paraphrases the content of that book, without large numbers of direct quotations, or unattributed quotations or close paraphrases, then that is what an encyclopedia does, and there is nothing wrong about it. But if material is copied extensively without quotation marks and proper attribution or is too closely paraphrased, then that is a copyright violation. Please point to those specific passages, and they will be removed.

The "View history" tab at the top of any article allows anyone to see which editors have contributed to an article over time. In this case, the main contributor is Belshay. You can express your concerns directly to that editor on their talk page. However, I encourage you to assume good faith of an editor trying to improve this encyclopedia, unless there is clear evidence of misconduct. Cullen Let's discuss it 03:53, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Baloch: Hoat

Hoat is one of the tribe of Baloch and is the 2nd oldest tribe of Baloch. Hoat Baloch are mosty found in D.G KHAN,MULTAN and SHUJABAD.

Shamshir Ahmad Khan is famous personality in this respect. He lives in Multan but actually his hometown is Shujabad. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abdul mueed khan (talk • contribs) 14:09, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi, this page is for questions, not unrelated conversations. Please tell us what you are trying to do.Yutah Andrei Marzan Ogawa (talk) 10:34, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

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