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:: Hello Robin, thanks for helping improve wikipedia. Does the advice above make sense? For instance, when you were changing the page the other day, you converted the store from the Bronx to Manhattan. Also, you added a mention of ''20 Years To Stardom'' as an event in 2013. Instead of putting those changes directly into the article yourself, the preferred approach is to make the suggestions at ]. For best results, you need to have some sources (newspapers/magazines/teevee/radio/government/academia) that prove that the additions are ]. Is there any press coverage of the ''20 Years To Stardom'' stuff, where your name is explicitly mentioned? Put that URL on the talkpage, and somebody will check it out, and whip up a neutral summary. Does this make sense? You can leave me a note on my user-talkpage if you get stuck, or need help figuring something out: click 'talk' by my name, click 'new section' at the top, leave me your message, and click 'save'. Another good place to get fast answers to quick questions is at the ]. Hope this helps; see also my longer advice at ], if you wish. | :: Hello Robin, thanks for helping improve wikipedia. Does the advice above make sense? For instance, when you were changing the page the other day, you converted the store from the Bronx to Manhattan. Also, you added a mention of ''20 Years To Stardom'' as an event in 2013. Instead of putting those changes directly into the article yourself, the preferred approach is to make the suggestions at ]. For best results, you need to have some sources (newspapers/magazines/teevee/radio/government/academia) that prove that the additions are ]. Is there any press coverage of the ''20 Years To Stardom'' stuff, where your name is explicitly mentioned? Put that URL on the talkpage, and somebody will check it out, and whip up a neutral summary. Does this make sense? You can leave me a note on my user-talkpage if you get stuck, or need help figuring something out: click 'talk' by my name, click 'new section' at the top, leave me your message, and click 'save'. Another good place to get fast answers to quick questions is at the ]. Hope this helps; see also my longer advice at ], if you wish. | ||
:: p.s. Apparently, the idea that the store was in the Bronx was sourced to the Washington Post... see ], wikipedia has to print what the sources say... even when they are wrong! We try to avoid that whenever possible... in the worst case, we can say "in NYC" rather than specify the borough. However, maybe the 1986 article doesn't actually say the Bronx? Here is another URL, which allows a 7-day-free trial, if you want to check it out for yourself. http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-3779757.html This is from the Chicago Sun-Times, as opposed to the Washington Post, but the author and the first sentence are identical. Also, of course, if the story was incorrect, and the papers never issued a correction, you could contact them *now* to ask for a correction of the record. Once they published such a thing, wikipedia could then be corrected. ] (]) 03:08, 20 March 2014 (UTC) | :: p.s. Apparently, the idea that the store was in the Bronx was sourced to the Washington Post... see ], wikipedia has to print what the sources say... even when they are wrong! We try to avoid that whenever possible... in the worst case, we can say "in NYC" rather than specify the borough. However, maybe the 1986 article doesn't actually say the Bronx? Here is another URL, which allows a 7-day-free trial, if you want to check it out for yourself. http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-3779757.html This is from the Chicago Sun-Times, as opposed to the Washington Post, but the author and the first sentence are identical. Also, of course, if the story was incorrect, and the papers never issued a correction, you could contact them *now* to ask for a correction of the record. Once they published such a thing, wikipedia could then be corrected. ] (]) 03:08, 20 March 2014 (UTC) | ||
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Autobiography is a bad idea
Please do not write or add to an article about yourself, as you apparently did at Robin Clark. Creating an autobiography is strongly discouraged – see our guideline on writing autobiographies. If you create such an article, it may be deleted. If what you have done in life is genuinely notable and can be verified according to our policy for articles about living people, someone else will probably create an article about you sooner or later (see Wikipedians with articles). If you wish to add to an existing article about yourself, please propose the changes on its talk page. Please understand that this is an encyclopedia and not a personal web space or social networking site. If your article has already been deleted, please see: Why was my page deleted?, and if you feel the deletion was an error, please discuss it with the deleting administrator. Thank you. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:27, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
- Since we all have a conflict of interest about ourselves, your best approach to making changes to the article is to post your proposed changes on the article's talk page, rather than editing the article directly. ~Amatulić (talk) 22:16, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
- Hello Robin, thanks for helping improve wikipedia. Does the advice above make sense? For instance, when you were changing the page the other day, you converted the store from the Bronx to Manhattan. Also, you added a mention of 20 Years To Stardom as an event in 2013. Instead of putting those changes directly into the article yourself, the preferred approach is to make the suggestions at Talk:Robin Clark. For best results, you need to have some sources (newspapers/magazines/teevee/radio/government/academia) that prove that the additions are WP:NOTEWORTHY. Is there any press coverage of the 20 Years To Stardom stuff, where your name is explicitly mentioned? Put that URL on the talkpage, and somebody will check it out, and whip up a neutral summary. Does this make sense? You can leave me a note on my user-talkpage if you get stuck, or need help figuring something out: click 'talk' by my name, click 'new section' at the top, leave me your message, and click 'save'. Another good place to get fast answers to quick questions is at the WP:TEAHOUSE. Hope this helps; see also my longer advice at User_talk:sarahehill, if you wish.
- p.s. Apparently, the idea that the store was in the Bronx was sourced to the Washington Post... see WP:TRUTH, wikipedia has to print what the sources say... even when they are wrong! We try to avoid that whenever possible... in the worst case, we can say "in NYC" rather than specify the borough. However, maybe the 1986 article doesn't actually say the Bronx? Here is another URL, which allows a 7-day-free trial, if you want to check it out for yourself. http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-3779757.html This is from the Chicago Sun-Times, as opposed to the Washington Post, but the author and the first sentence are identical. Also, of course, if the story was incorrect, and the papers never issued a correction, you could contact them *now* to ask for a correction of the record. Once they published such a thing, wikipedia could then be corrected. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 03:08, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages and copyright
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- You can only copy/translate a small amount of a source, and you must mark what you take as a direct quotation with double quotation marks (") and cite the source using an inline citation. You can read about this at Misplaced Pages:Non-free content in the sections on "text". See also Help:Referencing for beginners, for how to cite sources here.
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It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices, as policy requires that people who persistently do not must be blocked from editing. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 02:55, 5 October 2018 (UTC)