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User:Fleetham reported by User:Wuerzele (Result: )

Page: Bitcoin (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Fleetham (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Bitcoin&diff=prev&oldid=602693562&diffonly=1
2. https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Bitcoin&diff=prev&oldid=602684222&diffonly=1
3. https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Bitcoin&diff=prev&oldid=602683473&diffonly=1
4. https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Bitcoin&diff=prev&oldid=602681550&diffonly=1
5. https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Bitcoin&diff=prev&oldid=602677288&diffonly=1
6. https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Bitcoin&diff=prev&oldid=602670231&diffonly=1

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

Comments:
Please do not wholesale revert or delete stuff

• Note. Wuerzele, next time use real diffs, not unclickable numbers. Also, you were required to notify the reported user; I did so for you. Both you and Fleetham have violated WP:3RR, and I'm tempted to block both of you. However, I will wait to see if Fleetham wants to comment, which probably means I won't take any action in the near-term, although another administrator may choose to do so.--Bbb23 (talk) 11:28, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Bbb23, thank you for looking at my report so quickly.

• Re Real vs unclickable diff numbers: I didnt know they needed to be clickable, it didnt say this in the instructions. I've seen diffs only in edit summaries, where they arent clickable. Sorry, I've never done this before.
• Re notifying reported user: I have done this too, I warned him on his talkpage, putting things in larger context of at least 15 other complaints n the last 6 months, but he deleted the post.
• Re tempted to block me/ having violated WP:3RR: Please tell me how. My understanding is violation is more than 3 R's - am I wrong? I defended my edit by reverting Fleethams reverts 3x, which is not ideal. Fleetham violated 3R's by reverting me 4x, reverted another user twice in the same 24h, to the total of 6 reversals. Fleetham reverted a) after I had proposed an edit on the talk page, and b)put a compromise of the proposal in the article. he cited flat out "lack of consensus on talk page" in his reversal summary every time without ever replying to my edit.

This user has long standing, ongoing problems regarding ownership, disruptive and confusing edits, with citation overkill, refusal to engage in sincere, productive conversation with others, a bias which numerous editors remarked upon over time, (on bitcoin the criminal intent), talking to the hand , abusing Misplaced Pages policies since at least 2011, not an isolated incident of this user.

After repeated wholesale reverts, removing content without comment, avoiding Talk: bitcoin, Fleetham recently changed his tactic: He will now pseudo-engage. After reverts, he sneakily posts on the talk page without addressing me. Unless I make a special effort, I may not see his post on Talk:Bitcoin, which has become a djungle crowded with messages. He waits briefly and when none replies, he will say his talk point is unopposed, and if by chance one person sides with him he calls it consensus. Anotehr tactic is he repeatedly asks me the same question and insists, that he doesn’t "understand a thing" of my explanation, while no other editor else has voiced this. In good faith, one tries to explain again, but he stubbornly insists he doesnt understand or somethingis worse but not saying why. This makes him look good at first or on casual review by someone that doesn’t delve deeply into the matter. Fleetham looks engaged by insisting that he still doesn’t understand, but is fake, shows no sign of trying to really work, is no genuine effort to understand the explanation. He does this until he wears one down, until one doesn’t respond, or until one walks away. He says in the edit summary, (not the talkpage) that his view is “unopposed”, that the other user isn’t engaging, or not building consensus. Thus Fleetham manufactures evidence against a good faith editor, to justify his disruptive behavior. This is vicious.

Since 2-28-14 I have begged Fleetham numerous times not to use edit summaries to shortcut discussion on the talk page. I read today on Fleetham’s talk page that 3 other editors, Dave1185 Thomas.W and Richardbondi have warned him of using misleading edit summaries too, to game the system which is when I realized, that this is what Fleetham does. He does this to immunize himself from criticism and to either justify reverts or avoid counting reverts as reverts. This is dysfunctional.

On this admin page today, I discovered, that one can look up past blocks of users: In 2011 Fleetham was blocked 4 times for increasingly long periods, first 31 h, then 48 h, then 1month twice, then 3 months. There were 4 Misplaced Pages Administrators' noticeboard incidents, 2 of them with complaints like mine |one from March 2011 and one | /Edit warring edit warring disputes]]. He does not have a clean record. Please consider this in your opinion.

In summary: Editing Bitcoin daily for the last 42 days, I have observed how Fleetham at first bites new editors, with wholesale undiscussed, controversial deletions, disguised or open reverts, poisoning the atmosphere. There are at least 15 user comments in less than 6 months on complaining about the same thing, likely an underestimate, because numerous others remained silent, or walked away from Bitcoin, including myself, because we want to stay on the subject, and not argue. Please check these user comments out before making a decision.--Wuerzele (talk) 03:59, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Wuerzele, it's hard for me to wade through the wall of text above, including 3-year old blocking history, issues stemming from February, and issues other editors supposedly have with Fleetham's contributions that are also relatively old. I'll just address two points. First, you notified Fleetham of edit warring. You did not notify them of the filing of this report. The instructions at the top of the page state that you are required to do that. Second, you reverted four times. You're probably not counting your edit at 4:49 UTC as a revert but if you read the policy, you'll see that it is because you removed some material from the article and changed some other material. Thus, although I have the discretion to block just one of you even if both violated WP:3RR, I doubt that in this instance I would do so.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:33, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Bbb23 thanks for you reply. its hard for me to understand that you can ignore context, when making a decision. also to correct you: I did not describe an issue from February. Also, issues that "other people" have with Fleetham are not "old"; if you d care to check out the people that have complained on his talk page, you ll hear their current April 7 2014 opinion, if that makes a difference to you. So I just thave 2 more points: how can editing a sentence count as reverting (=going back to..)? How is this report going to end- does this stay open ?--Wuerzele (talk) 03:13, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

First, yes I was edit warring. Second, I've repeatedly asked Wuerzele to read and abide by WP:NPA. Third, the issue in question was a proposed change where consensus was achieved, but Wuerzele went ahead and reverted it back to his version. See Talk:Bitcoin#Prose_in_Block_chain_section. I suggest a change, another editor says, "good, I think it's clearer now," and Wuerzele replies, " has been a WP:status quo explaining blockchain. It stays." I don't think that justifies my behavior, and there are certainly better ways to handle the situation. Fleetham (talk) 20:58, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Bbb23 There are 2 incorrect statements: First, Fleetham has not repeatedly asked me to read and abide by ]. (if he says so he should prove it) and, mentioning this exhortation here, is smear tactic. it gives the impression as if I had violated that policy, which is untrue. (again,if he says so he should prove it) Second Fleetham's quote of me is wring and incorrect it. This "quote" does not pertain to the section I reported him about and is again smear tactic (=see what sticks).--Wuerzele (talk) 03:13, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

User:Volunteer Marek reported by User:Petr Matas (Result: Declined)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Page: Crimean status referendum, 2014 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Volunteer Marek (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: Reinsertion (revert 1) by Petr Matas (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Diffs of the user's reverts:

• Controversial content removal by Volunteer Marek (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
  • Reinsertion (revert 1) by Petr Matas (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• Removal (revert 1) by My very best wishes (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
  • Reinsertion (revert 2) by Moscow Connection (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• Removal (revert 2) by Volunteer Marek (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
  • Reinsertion (revert 3) by Petr Matas (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• Removal (revert 3) by Volunteer Marek (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
  • Reinsertion (revert 4) by Moscow Connection (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• Removal (revert 4) by Number 57 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
  • Reinsertion (revert 5) by Moscow Connection (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• Removal (revert 5) by Volunteer Marek (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: Warning

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: Talk:Crimean status referendum, 2014#Observers and legitimacy

• Declined. First, Petr Matas, you include a revert going back to April 1 and yet fail to note that VM has not violated WP:3RR. If I'm going to block VM for slow edit warring, I would block you too as you've hardly been blameless. Second, you include in your list of reverts a revert by another user. Just because another editor agrees with VM's revert doesn't mean that other editor is reverting on behalf of VM. Finally, you failed to notify VM of this report as you're required to do. I do suggest that the editors discuss more and edit the article less. Remember, this article is subject to disretionary sanctions.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:25, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

  Bbb23, let me apologize for my mistakes, I agree with all your reproaches. 1) I confused notice with warning. 2) I know that 3RR was not violated and I was probably too succinct. However, I feel that an edit war is occuring and I tried to document the entire war involving multiple users including myself. I thought that it was obvious from the list including the user names. Still, VM refuses to give detailed explanations of his edits as being told in the talk. From WP:WAR#What to do if you see edit-warring behavior I got a perception that this is the place where to go. Isn't there any policy for enforcing WP:BRD by restoring status quo ante until the dispute is resolved? — Petr Matas 05:44, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

  Petr Matas, if you think this is not just a contentious content dispute but something that rises to the level of significant user misconduct, then WP:ANI is the right place, but be sure before you go because ANI is often not a welcoming place, particularly with these kinds of articles where there's bound to be a certain level of friction. Otherwise, use dispute resolution.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:08, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

  There's a possibility that WP:AE may also be a relevant forum, as I believe Volunteer Marek was sanctioned under Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Eastern European mailing list under a different username which I will not mention here. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 14:46, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

• (I noticed I was mentioned here.) I believe there must be some rule Volunteer Marek violated. Cause it was rather disturbing and disruptive how he came to the article and started removing all links to Russia Today. I think it was bordering on vandalism. I had to stop reverting after two reverts on April 4. I could not defend the page anymore and even had to stop looking at it. --Moscow Connection (talk) 22:50, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

• I have no idea what I'm supposed to make of your (Moscow Connection) and Demiurge's comments. I can't sanction someone based on some other username who can't be named for whatever reason, or that VM violated "some rule". VM has no entries at WP:EDR.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:04, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

• I don't see how my comments were unclear, User:Bbb23. I'm not asking you to sanction anyone, I was merely pointing out a possible alternative venue to Petr. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 23:09, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

• No problem, Demiurge1000, if you're not asking me to do anything, I'm happy.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:46, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

2014 Ukrainian revolution

Can this be counted in? Formally, it happened in another article, but the edits were similar. (Volunteer Maerk removed all references to Russia Today and some parts sourced from Russia Today.)

These reverts started immediately after the last Volunteer Marek's revert listed above:

Addition

• 08:54 and 09:19, 4 April 2014 (Sceptic1954 adds "characterised by its opponents as a '''] <ref>http://rt.com/news/us-aid-ukraine-illegal-202/</ref>")

Reverts (three reverts by Volunteer Marek in 24 hours)

1. 15:47, 4 April 2014
2. 12:03, 5 April 2014
3. 12:15, 5 April 2014

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: See above. Earlier on the same day, April 4, Volunteer Marek had been warned for similar edits in another article.

A discussion that attempted to resolve dispute on article talk page a few days earlier: Talk:2014 Ukrainian revolution#Coup not Revolution. (Volunteer Marek participated.)

—Moscow Connection (talk) 23:36, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

So, you're just working hard to get Marek blocked? Rather battleground-type behaviour, n'est-ce pas? DP 23:56, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Why are you attacking me like this? I saw him destroying references in several articles and it bothers me that he can do something like that and that he will continue. --Moscow Connection (talk) 00:25, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

• Note. Moscow Connection, we're done here. VM did not violate 3RR. There were a number of editors edit warring, you among them. VM wasn't the only one who removed the material.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:52, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

User:Lockean One reported by User:Finx (Result: Indef)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Page: Libertarianism (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Lockean One (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: (which this editor then copy-pasted on my own talk page)

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: (it's quite literally all over the talk page for the last several months, although this user has been removing or collapsing/hiding comments he doesn't like -- the latest tactic has been to accuse everyone else of being the disruptive/disrespectful ones)

Comments:

First of all, I'm sorry, but this is getting pretty frustrating. We've had little help from administrators so far and it's pretty absurd how long this has gone on. Lockean One's talk page is a graveyard for notices about edit warring and disruptive editing. This is literally all that this account does. There are many users who can attest to this editor being a disruptive edit warrior who just tries to rewrite the same article like some right-wing political pamphlet over and over and over again. Please see these other administrators' noticeboard incidents for background:

Can you please do something about this instead of just locking the article down? fi (talk) 06:03, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

If an admin has any questions of me please let me know. Otherwise, I see no need to address all of the falsehoods above. Those aren't even all reverts by me above, apparently Finx didn't even bother to take the time to read them prior to edit warring and violating the 3RR rule. Must have been too busy making up false and uncivil statements about me as has been done for months now to disrupt good faith discussions of article content. Lockean One (talk) 06:47, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Please look at the edit history of the article. I was surprised when Lockean One wasn't blocked at the last noticeboard posting, roughly two and a half weeks ago. I personally would be in favor of some sort of topic ban. -- Somedifferentstuff (talk) 10:38, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Blocked - Indef by User:Callanecc. User is now requesting unblock. EdJohnston (talk) 17:14, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

This did not turn out correctly. And from a process standpoint it was only open for less than a 1/2 day. Please Take a look at the talk page of the article; I was getting close to bringing it here anyway. Both Finx and Lockean one have gotten a little wild editing and commenting. Lockean One has been civil and generally stuck to arguments. Finx has not, and has been continuously using insults and deprecation of editors. This article (which was in flames 3-4 years ago)(despite feisty debates) has not had this type of nastiness until now, and 90% of such has been Finx. Not that I am seeking action against Finx other than possibly a warning. North8000 (talk) 17:33, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

I'm not sure what talk page you are looking at North, but Lockean One has been incredibly uncivil at times. He is in clear need of a break, not necessarily forever, but for awhile. -- Somedifferentstuff (talk) 19:28, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

North8000, like I said on the talk page, if you'd care to start an incident report (or even a note on my user page) regarding this nastiness you're accusing me of and provide so much as a single example with context, I'd be glad to consider and explain this alleged misbehavior. As of now, I have to assume you've not done so because it doesn't exist. I remember looking up, reviewing and citing (with quotes) dozens upon dozens of relevant sources to replace wildly inappropriate assertions and speculations peppered throughout this article with actually verifiable information. I remember your and Lockean One's shock and indignation each time you were reminded (repeatedly) that the article cannot arbitrarily follow some contrived and (apparently) politically motivated narrative in spite dozens of reliable sources saying the exact opposite of what you want it to say. I remember insisting, over and over again, that article's talk page is not the place to pontificate on any editor's own favored political views and narratives, to debate their merits or to spew polemics. I remember saying that this is not a creative writing project and that assumptions of good faith eventually evaporate with enough evidence to the contrary. I remember saying that, after years (!) of incessant obstructionism and completely off-topic rants, whether on account of malevolence of sheer incompetence, I'd be glad to see you join Lockean One in a topic ban just so that the other editors can get on with their work. However, since you don't ever edit or contribute to the article in any way whatsoever except to soapbox on how you think it ought to read on the talk page (without an iota of supporting evidence, since you've positioned yourself as a kind of ideological moderator) or the occasional revert when the page mentions verifiable facts that seem to rub you wrong, I'm not sure how to proceed. What I don't remember is ever resorting to personal attacks or name-calling or forgetting to check my politics at the door. I don't remember insisting that the page ought to be a planetarium for the universe of my own political worldview. You're every bit as disruptive as the user above (for what appears to be the very same reasons) except that instead of battering-ram edit wars and calling people "idiots" or "dimwits" your disruption takes the form of protracted concern trolling, blocking consensus and challenging absolutely everything that doesn't neatly follow some party line to endless bloviation on the talk page, over the course of months and months. I am not aware that questioning an editor's competence, and then (eventually) one's intentions violates Misplaced Pages policy. I am not aware that anyone gave you ownership of this article or appointed your its arbiter of dispute resolution. I am not aware that anything on that page has to satisfy all your personal, unsubstantiated sensibilities of fairness and balance in order to be included. If you would like to describe political philosophies differently than they've already been described, I would suggest you spend more time publishing books and less time brewing disingenuous indignation. fi (talk) 21:19, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

I've been a powerless pseudo-moderator there for 3-4 years, helped bring it out of it's bonfire, and have had to disagree with both "sides" trying to follow the middle ground which is to accurately cover all significant strands of libertarianism. Finx's nasty, insulting mis-characterization of this above is certainly indicative of the problem which I described. And we really haven't had this kind of a problem on a significant scale at the article for 3-4 years until Finx started this. Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 21:58, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

There seems to be some correlation between your self-appointed pseudo-moderatorship and the horrid, bloggish quality of the article. I'm sorry you find that observation insulting and take offense my insistence on claims from verifiable references rather than following your gut feeling on the appropriate balance between substantiated material and unsubstantiated assertions. fi (talk) 22:32, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Another complete mis-characterization to deprecate someone. BTW, most of my efforts have been to simply keeping folks from one type of libertarianism from knocking out coverage of the other type. And folks with the most stringent of sourcing standards (and no axe to grind) have said that it is in good shape. North8000 (talk) 23:10, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Just saw this and wanted to say I am pleased something is being done about the constant disruption and incivility on the Libertarianism article. Lockean One has continually misrepresented even the most basic of facts in order to cast aspersions upon those who do not share his viewpoint, often in an incredibly insulting manner (e.g. he hatted a sincere response on my part for "spouting socialist propaganda" () that was "in dire need of mocking" (). The latest posts by Lockean One and Darkstar1st on the talk page even include calling people dimwits ( and )... classy! I'm not sure if a block is more appropriate than a topic ban (or if there is a pragmatic difference, considering Lockean One's interest in libertarianism), but either way I am glad action has been taken. I also have to disagree with North8000's characterization of Lockean One and Finx's interaction the Talk Page. I think Finx can get impassioned, but his behavior has never been as bad as that of Lockean One. -- MisterDub (talk | contribs) 20:44, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

User:Pk041 reported by User:Smsarmad (Result:Declined )

Page: Raheel Sharif (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Pk041 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: Previous version

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. February 18
2. February 18 (revert by a possible IP sock, as an IP from the same range also restored another of his edit where he was edit warring)
3. April 5

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: Discretionary sanctions warning, 1st block, Edit warring warning, 2nd block, Edit warring warning

Comments:
This user edits is persistently edit warring across multiple articles in caste/clan topic area and up till now nothing seems to have changed in spite of two escalating blocks. -- SMS 08:36, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

•  Not done Two edits in February and one in April do not appear to make an edit war DP 01:16, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

DangerousPanda Are you sure? Specially a user with such a history. -- SMS 19:19, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

User:Summichum reported by User:Rukn950 (Result: No violation)

Page: Mohammed Burhanuddin (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Summichum (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. 05:02, 7 April 2014‎ Summichum (talk | contribs)‎ . . (15,072 bytes) (-2,177)
2. 04:54, 7 April 2014‎ Summichum (talk | contribs)‎ . . (17,249 bytes) (-8,995)
3. 11:28, 6 April 2014‎ Summichum (talk | contribs)‎ m . . (26,209 bytes) (-522)‎

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: Talk:Mohammed_Burhanuddin

Comments:
user:summichum is assuming ownership of the article Mohammed Burhanuddin he has reverted the edit done by other editors without any discussion. he doesn't seem to learn from his previous blocks.his sole purpose in joining wikipedia it seems is to impose his POV and disruptive editing.Rukn950 (talk) 07:39, 7 April 2014 (UTC) I have reported him for other article previously.Rukn950 (talk) 07:39, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

• No violation. The reported editor has made only one revert.--Bbb23 (talk) 08:03, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

User:117.53.77.84 reported by User:Idh0854 (Result: Both warned)

Page: Social liberalism (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: 117.53.77.84 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. 07:07, 7 April 2014 "You can't write on the Justice Party here unless they regard themselves as a socially liberal political party. For now, they regard themselves as a social democratic political party."
2. 08:31, 7 April 2014‎ "It's the Justice Party"
3. 08:33, 7 April 2014 "Social democracy is the Justice Party's official ideology."

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

1. 08:18, 7 April 2014‎‎ "+"
2. 08:35, 7 April 2014‎ "+"

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

1. 13:58, 6 April 2014 "Justice Party: new section"

Comments:
This user made 3 rvs in 24 h, which is a clear violation of 3RR.

P.S. I think this user and 180.230.243.143 is the same person. --Idh0854 (talk) 09:02, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

• Comment: Both parties are edit warring, and both could be blocked. I invite them to join the discussion here and promise not to make any edits regarding South Korean political parties for seven days. (There has been warring at Social liberalism and New Politics Alliance for Democracy). EdJohnston (talk) 21:31, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
  • Sorry? I think it is totally inexplicable. I strictly observe 3RR. And I was so tempted to discussion himself. But he always use the edit summary without answer. Thanks. --Idh0854 (talk) 05:42, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
• Result: Both warned. The report is being closed with no blocks per the assurances at User talk:Idh0854#Edit warring on South Korean political parties. Neither party should make any edits regarding South Korean political parties until 15 April. EdJohnston (talk) 19:48, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

User:Benkenobi18 reported by User:NorthBySouthBaranof (Result: Protected)

Page

Stephanie Gray (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported

Benkenobi18 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts

1. 09:30, 7 April 2014 (UTC) "rvt vandalism in removal of sourced material once again."
2. 09:03, 7 April 2014 (UTC) "Removing readded promotional material."
3. 08:47, 7 April 2014 (UTC) ""The article exists because it was originally written by a blocked sockpuppet as a vehicle to promote Appel's blog/views",per talkpage."
4. 07:57, 7 April 2014 (UTC) "Once again Appel's non-notable opinion has consensus for it's removal from this article. Please stop re-adding material that has been removed before."

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning

1. 09:11, 7 April 2014 (UTC) "Warning: Violating the three-revert rule on Stephanie Gray. (TW)"

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page

1. 08:58, 7 April 2014 (UTC) "/* Per BLPN discussion */ new section"
2. 09:18, 7 April 2014 (UTC) "/* Per BLPN discussion */"
3. 09:45, 7 April 2014 (UTC) "/* Per BLPN discussion */"

Comments:

I was previously-uninvolved before responding to a request for assistance at the BLP Noticeboard. The user in question is repeatedly removing well-sourced and arguably-relevant criticism of the article subject, and has been involved in a slo-mo edit war over this material for more than a month. Other diffs reverting the same material: NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 09:56, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi. NorthBySouthBaranof has continued to add promotional material sourced to a hostile blog to a BLP and has removed cited material backed up by 3 citations. I have simply restored these citations and removed the promotional material. Benkenobi18 (talk) 09:52, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

The opinion of a notable bioethicist published in a reliable source is not "promotional material sourced to a hostile blog." At any rate, that discussion belongs over on the article Talk page, which you have refused to engage in, despite requests. You simply keep reverting the material out. That's not on. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 09:57, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

• Protected. Suggest strongly that Benkenobi now engages on the talkpage. Black Kite (talk) 10:04, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

User:Schily reported by User:Chire (Result: Schily blocked; Ekkt0r warned)

Page: Cdrtools (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Schily (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

3. (earlier revert of changes by User:Diego Moya; outside 24h period)

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: Talk:Cdrtools, ] (deleted talk)

Comments:

The talk page (and article history) is full of personal attacks against anybody editing "his" page.

User:Schily is openly the author of the software cdrtools, Joerg Schilling. As such, he obviously has a WP:COI.

As pointed out in: Talk:Cdrtools#Censorship_-_suppression_of_facts_Schily_does_not_like, my changes were very reasonable. In particular, I did fix an incorrectly spelled name, as well as disambiguating Reference 24 and 25, which seemingly reference the same post (but don't). But any change I do is bulk-reverted by User:Schily or his clone, without even looking at the changes.

Here is a list of earlier examples of attacks of this user against others editing his article (editor user names!):

• Diego Moya: on talk page "Repeated vandalism by User:Diego Moya" and "Edits by Diego Moya"
• EagleOne
• Niten
• Chealer
• Fudoreaper
• Saxifrage
• Tcwardrobe (in context of article Jörg Schilling, not cdrtools)

The attacks now get personal, and reference the "outside of Misplaced Pages": This is a red line for me not to be crossed.

As you can see, I'm neither the first, nor the only one attacked.

My motivation was that IMHO, the article is pretty much unreadable (more of a software manual page or replacement homepage, than an encyclopedia article), and heavily biased towards the authors (User:Schily) opinion; neglecting the fact that every major linux distribution (except OpenSUSE, apparently) is no longer shipping his software. Maybe that is why he is so eager to make his opinion public?

As I don't use his software, I guess I'm out. I don't want to have to deal with such behavior, in particular when they start personally attacking me. This is unacceptable, I'm going to let them make their article unreadable and biased, because it will be useless advocating his position.

Nevertheless, the article needs someone to pay attention to it. If you look at the history of the article, it's been a constant edit war for years (actually even long before I became a Misplaced Pages user). And the author is apparently banned from several mailing lists and Linux distributions (it was even proposed to ban him from LKML, as well as German Misplaced Pages . But this needs to be done by someone with more dedication, and maybe even Misplaced Pages superpowers, than me.

As said before, I'm out. I lack interest in this software to bother any longer given these circumstances; I have an interest in big data, data mining and cluster analysis, not in cd recording; so I take the easy road out (like EagleOne, Saxifrage, Chealer, Fudoreaper, Niten, ...) and focus on the articles that are of importance to me. But given the road the article has been taking the last years, someone will have to take care of it to keep it balanced, and from becoming a pure cdrtools advertisement page. --Chire (talk) 14:03, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

User:Chire is well known for starting repeated edit wars by repeatedly adding false claims to e.g. the cdrtools Wp page. Most of the problematic content in the article has been written by Chire. He is trying to harm cdrtools since a long time and he must be seen as a stalker to me and the cdrtools project. His main Interest is obviously to harm cdrtools. Schily (talk) 14:21, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

If it is "obvious", where is the proof that I am "well known" for this? Why would I want to harm cdrtools "since a long time"? I have proven that you repeatedly attack other editors. --Chire (talk) 14:46, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

I have no idea why you like to harm cdrtools - this is something you need to explain, but it is a fact that you try to harm cdrtools since a long time and other users, e.g. Ekkt0r (talk) for this reason send you a related warning more than once already. Schily (talk) 14:58, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

Diego Moya is someone we can trust. He is an experienced and honest editor and can confirm that I have never attacked him. He knows what is happening in the cdrtools article and I'm sure he will be able to tell that Schily should not be blocked. Thank you. Ekkt0r (talk) 17:26, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

I can confirm that Ekkt0r has never attacked me, and I thank you for your confidence, but I'm afraid that's the only point where we agree in this conversation. I have never been involved in ANI, but before seeing this thread I was thinking of starting one myself, because of the latest edits by Schily to Cdrtools and his inability to deal with his conflict of interest in a proper manner, for this reinsertion of his notes and references is unacceptable.

I was going to propose that Schily recuse himself and avoid making further edits to the article's content, limiting to voice his concerns at the talk page. I don't think the WP:COI policy means by itself that editors should completely avoid editing pages of a topic when they are involved, provided that they can neutral and compliant with policy. Unfortunately, this is not the case here; Schily does not understand Misplaced Pages policy, and has a consistent pattern of introducing his personal opinions and value judgements in articles as fact (see as some examples among many), original research(), removing tags that warned readers about problems with the article, without fixing those (), and misjudging the points made by references and the subtler points of WP:SYNTH (see , discussed here, and regarding this reference). I concur with Chire's observation that Schily behaves as if this was an extension of his project's documentation; and that the result of the infighting to solve the COI through the years is an unreadable mess. I have suggested in the past to Schily that he should refrain from modifying the article and let others do the editing after discussing his concerns, as he has proven unable to comply with the most basic requirements of verifiability and neutrality, and too often engages in passing his personal opinions as references.

Looking at his online past throughout the web, Schily is a difficult person to deal with in this and other projects. Given his accomplishments with the Cdrtools software, he must be a brilliant developer; he must posses a thoroughly logical mind, when it relates of how machines work, or he couldn't have built a software of such precision and complexity; but I've watched his interactions with other editors and the problems he has at empathizing with the other side, or to even understand the point that the others are trying to make; having been at the receiving end of his tendency to instantly assuming the worst intentions of others whenever someone contradicts him, I don't think he holds any malice against the encyclopedia or other editors, but I suspect he's not totally on the neurotypical side of the Pact; in any case, he has displayed a lack of competence (of factual, social and bias nature) when the task at hand requires following the steps of dispute resolution or respecting the basic tenets of content policy.

I don't indend this commentary as a personal attack (and will strike it if it's perceived as such) nor as an attempt to ban him from collaboration, but rather as a description of what I've observed of his behavior. I believe it should be for the better (for him and others) that he tried his best to limit his interactions with respect to the article about his tools, and his biography. If this requires that he is topic-banned from the articles related to his COI, so be it. Though I still believe that he has valuable and first-hand knowledge about this article, that could be harnessed to provide the background and links to relevant external sources; if only he limited himself to expose that knowledge and his opinions at the talk pages, and let others with a better grasp of Misplaced Pages procedures do the actual editing of the article. Diego (talk) 22:00, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

• Note - I haven't got time to look through all of this now, but it is clear that User:Schily has serious WP:OWNership issues on this article, and today posted this, on the talkpage, which indicates he is not interested in collaborative editing of the article. Black Kite (talk) 17:43, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

I have to admit that some of Jörg's edits and/or summaries do not follow all the rules, but when we compare this to all the hostile edits and attacks from all the people who have been fighting him during the last 8 years, Jörg's edits are very light. Jörg has even been blocked on the German Misplaced Pages by... Chire.

Chire has already kicked a VIP out of Misplaced Pages. See these last two edits (first and second) by User:Ryan22222 (User_talk:Ryan22222 | Special:Contributions/Ryan22222) who tried hard (a + b + c) to obtain help from Misplaced Pages admins because he was being attacked by Chire. He gave up and never edited any page again. It is sad to see that Chire does not respect the editors who do not share his views.

If you need any Diffs to have an overview of all hostile edits from Chire against the cdrtools article, please let me know. (I can put a big list.) Thanks for your help. Ekkt0r (talk) 18:40, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

Correct, this is not a single accident with Chire but something that repeated over years. One of the methods of Chire is trying to waste time of other people and this is not the first time where he was absolutely not collaborative. Chire repeatedly inserts the same false claims and as he does not change his edits once one of his claims was proven false, he cannot be seen as working in good faith. It does not help to try to discuss things with him as he just acts as if there was no attempt to discuss things with him at all. See today: he made a false claim (that a specific package will not run on Mint-Linux) even though this package was verified to work correctly under Mint and what he did was to reinsert his false claim again. Well, it seems that his real interest for today was to get rid of the column in a table that verifies that there are precompiled binary packages even for all the non-colaborative Linux distros. I cannot believe that Misplaced Pages will allow Chire to abuse WP as a platform to spread libel and slander against an OSS project, so I am in hope for a friendly decision. Schily (talk) 19:06, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

Here is the actual history of Educational data mining (and subsequent changes). I performed a Misplaced Pages-policy merge (there are attribution requirements!) of a section on "cluster analysis in educational data mining" from the cluster analysis article actually written by Special:Contributions/Jucypsycho. These merged contents where then subsequently removed first by an IP, then b< "Sventura", who did 4 wikipedia edits and by In1romoc, who never contributed anything else. No wonder the administrators (not me), decided to semi-protect the article and follow me on my "meat puppets" complaint ... here is the end on Misplaced Pages:Editor assistance/Requests (EAR), also bringing the overreaction by Ryan22222 to the editor assistance attention. Since User_talk:Jucypsycho#Educational_data_mining never followed up, I let the removed text rest. If the author does not object to his text being removed - and it being brought to his attention -, why would I interfer?

Here is the actual message I left on his talk page: - using the words "Fix it, don't just delete it"... I have nothing to hide, but the two of you are again not telling the whole/true story, but just telling slander. You only link to his overreaction, but not to what I actually did write, nor that at EAR there was no objection by the administrators to my behavior. Anybody here is welcome to review the history of his talk page and EAR, and welcome to make up his mind. Just don't blindly listen to User:Schily. I'm definitely sometimes an aggressive writer, but I'd say only within the usual Misplaced Pages behavior.

Here is another "mistake" by you: I did not block User:Schily on German Misplaced Pages. It's well documented: : a user called "Nolispanmo" reported you (after you had edit wars with him on several articles), and "XenonX3" executed the indefinite ban. Nor did I do the previous two bans, but "Koenraad" and "Gleiberg"... Yes, three different administrators banned Schily... Don't blame me for that, this is paranoid.

Unfortunately, this seems to be a pattern. You blame everybody for everything you don't like. But unfortunately, some of that is just a fact. All the major linux distributions (Redhat, Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora, CentOS) except OpenSuSE (since 2013) have a ban on your software. I understand that this hurts, but I'm not responsible for that, nor any of the other editors you killed over the years.

Stop blaming me for everything. I'm giving up your article anyway. Make it as unreadable as you like, with more footnotes than text, and more edits than users of your software. But someone will have to fix up your WP:COI and WP:OWN mess for Misplaced Pages at some point, and make the article worth reading again; and not a replacement homepage of your software. I know that you are not going to respect this, but:

Give me a chance to get out of your vendetta. I'd prefer to no longer participate. Thank you. --Chire (talk) 21:05, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

There is no vendetta and if you did really stop editing the named arcticles, this would be a real benefit for the quality of e.g. the cdrtools article on WP: so stop your crusade against me and cdrtools and don't continue to add false claims to WP. Nobody is interested in you personally but you add false claims and you do not send a prove for other claims from you that look like own research. This causes people to revert your edits. Schily (talk) 21:31, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

If false claims are added, you can be confident that someone will remove them. But it shouldn't be you the one who do the reverts, Schily, as you are directly involved with the article's topic, and therefore are acting as both judge and jury. If you find some claims in the to be false, signal them at the talk page and explain why they shouldn't be there; the simplest reason would be because the additions are unreferenced. If you can convince others that the content shouldn't be written as is, it will be fixed. Diego (talk) 22:17, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Diego for your edits. I do not think, however, that there is a COI. The problem is that Jörg is just tired of having to defend himself from the attacks from so many people on the internet since 2006, and from a few hostile editors. So I don't think it would be a good idea to restrict Jörg's edits on the article. He did make some edits and reverts in a way that should be avoided, but this is just the consequence of 8 years of attacks (offending comments, insults, and even slander) by some people who want to prevent cdrtools from having the visibility it should have. I'm not saying this gives him the right to do whatever he wants in the article, but I can understand he has had enough of hostile edits. I'm sure Jörg is able to avoid his passed "errors" once the attacks against him stop. BTW, several claims in the "Licensing issues" are false, but I think Jörg has already accepted to let them there until a better consensus is found.

BTW, do you think we could move the "Licensing issues" section entirely to the talk page and edit it there until we meet a concensus? Ekkt0r (talk) 23:52, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

If you don't think so, then you don't understand COI very well, Ekkt0r. Schily is the author of the software - that's the very definition of Conflict of Interest, and the reason why the policy was crafted. It means that his comments can be linked to from the article as primary sources if relevant, but also that he can't be trusted to fairly judge the point of view of other parties. Someone directly involved with the topic at hand shouldn't be making controversial edits to the article, period; if he had avoided doing edits during those 8 years, he wouldn't have had to "defend himself". (Speaking of which, if you are somehow involved with the project of making cdrtools in any way other than as a user, this would be a good time to disclose your involvement).

As for the "Licensing issues" section, let's discuss that at the talk page. Diego (talk) 06:43, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Don't forget that it is not Wikipedias responsibility to find out the truth. We document positions. Schilys position is that the software can be distributed. The position of Ubuntu, Debian, Redhat, Fedora, Mandrake, Oracle Linux, and apparently many more is that it cannot be distributed in binary form (which is why source-only distributions are not affected). User:Schily repeatedly tried to remove any statement about the position of Debian; but from a Misplaced Pages point of view, the fact is that Debian does not ship cdrtools, and the official reason (documented by the mailing list posts) is that there is a licensing issue when the license is read using Debians interpretation. We do not care whether this interpretation is correct. It is the documented reason why these distributions do not ship cdrtools. Any attempt to "prove the truth" would be WP:OR, and is not our task. This is repeated very often (e.g. Talk:Cdrtools#Enough_with_the_synthesis_and_original_research).

In my opinion, all that Misplaced Pages really needs on this topic is: major Linux distributions (Debian, Ubuntu, Redhat, Fedora, ...) do not accept the licence, and give the mix of GPL and CDDL code as a reason (+references for the major distributions saying so). Schily says otherwise, but cannot convince the Linux distributions (except recently OpenSUSE?). End of story.

Which is pretty much what Cdrkit#History has on this matter, and what we have had on the cdrtools web page until the latest peak of activitiy: . This version was quite factual. It doesn't say who is "right", but it documents who said what. IMHO there are some details missing to the reader though: A) the issue is not resolved yet, and the reason why most large distributions do not include cdrtools, B) while Debian created the cdrkit fork, cdrkit is used by most distributions as replacement as is. Similar with the Ubuntu story. It tells there was a legal inquiry, but the outcome is suppressed; and again it is hidden that this is the reason why Ubuntu also sticks to cdrkit.

All of these are facts, and can be reported in a factual tone, unless someone insists on adding footnotes everywhere to mix in his personal opinion (= WP:COI). If you read through the "Notes" section of the current article, don't you agree that these reflect the personal opinion of someone, and do not document or support published facts? (Nor do they contribute to the quality of the article.)

Schily can publish his view in detail on his homepage; Misplaced Pages should only have a summary of his opinion, and a summary of other opinions; give the reader pointers where to obtain additional information, but not make an attempt to judge who is more right than the other. Misplaced Pages should also try to keep the article to a size that is of general interest; in the case of cdrtools it should IMHO mostly answer the question "What is cdrtools, and if cdrtools is free software, why is not available in Debian/Ubuntu/Redhat?". I'm okay with having a section that answers "what beenfits do I get from using cdrtools", but then these should be independently checked, and not a green-only feature table published by Schily to advertise his product. This gives undue weight to obscure features such as "Disc Tattooing" (DiscT@2) and Atari MiNT support; and neglects the fact that apparently the 2.x versions of cdrtools (which served as a base for cdrkit) already worked for 99% of users (or that likely cdrkit could also be compiled on MiNT?). I.e. the article should mention that Blu-ray Disc support of cdrtools is (apparently, I have not verified, as I don't even have a BD reader) much better, if cdrkit has any. BD support would then be a notable feature and should go into the article. --Chire (talk) 12:25, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

• Blocked Schily for 72 hours.

• Warned. Ekkt0r, you are warned. Your editing on the article is troubling as it appears WP:SPA-like and to continuously back up Schily. In addition, your threat of WP:OUTING another editor on the article talk page constitutes a personal attack ("Threats to out an editor will be treated as a personal attack and dealt with accordingly."). If you persist in edit warring on the article or other misconduct, you may be blocked without further notice.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:25, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

My account is not a WP:SPA. I have been regularly contributing on a few other articles (Linux Kernel#Maintenance + Template:Latest preview software release/Linux + Template:Latest stable software release/Linux) until recently on the EN Misplaced Pages and its equivalents on the FR and ES. I've stopped editing these other articles when I got tired of being attacked on the cdrtools article. I have also been contributing occasionaly on other articles, fixing typos or doing minor edits from time to time. I have lost all the joy I could have when contributing to Misplaced Pages. Ekkt0r (talk) 00:57, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Sure. Your very first edits after creating your account in August 2013 were to Cdrtools and Template:Latest preview software release/cdrtools (created by you). Of the grand total of about 235 edits you've made in several months, 96 have been to cdrools and 19 have been to its talk page. You created Template:Releases cdrtools (since speedily deleted). You copied Cdrtools (haven't checked if it's an exact copy) to your sandbox and then requested deletion of it. I suspect that at least some of your other edits are Cdrtools-related, but I'm not going to spend any more time on this. The warning stands.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:13, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Errrm, the articles you list are all very related. Rather defining of SPA, really DP 01:15, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

All my edits on the Linux pages were related to updating the "latest releases". I learned how these small tasks were done, and decided to do some of them myself to "help" the Linux community. Some users forget from time to time to update the refs when updating the version numbers. Well, I did pay attention to these small details and I think many users can confirm that during the few months I have been doing these small (but repetitive) edits, I made almost no mistake. (Please do not think I'm attacking anyone regarding the refs, for example). My only purpose with these edits was to allow more skilled editors to focus on more interesting edits than these maintenance updates. I have also been editing a few articles on the ES, FR, DE and RU Misplaced Pages (mainly cdrtools and Linux). So yes, most of my edits are related together. (Is this bad?) The reason for my focus on cdrtools is that I'm very sad that some great distros decided to boycott cdrtools. Ekkt0r (talk) 02:03, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Hello Ekkt0r. I'm convinced that you are not Schily: you do try much harder to find a compromise of wording. And IMHO it is typical that new editors first start editing only a small subset of pages they are familiar with; so I don't think you are to blame for not having a wide edit history. But you also happily keep advertiserial material from Schily, unfortunately.

For example in the section "Availability of precompiled binary packages" (emphasis added), you happily reference packages that need to be compiled by the user to work on Debian, Mint, CentOS, Fedora, Oracle Linux, RHEL, Scientific Linux. The only real "precompiled binary" from third party sources is Ubuntu. Just an example that you, too, are biased and not neutral. My attempt to fix this, keeping the references only where they are fact. Eventual compability of Ubuntu packages with e.g. Mint or Ubuntu (which version is compatible with what?) is unsourced; not accessible to actual users (how do they find out which version to use? The PPA web page only assists them for Ubuntu releases!), and WP:OR, isn't it? Many "Linux distributions" on this list, such as roblinux, are dead ducks (the webpage is down, and Sourceforge shows 153 downloads total since 2010), or at most obscure (SlavankaOS, 47 downloads of latest version total). Listing such distributions is not particular sound, is it?

Overall, the availablility section IMHO is mostly advertisment, and should go to the cdrtools homepage. In particular, it does not include which versions of the distributions are supported; or which version of cdrtools is actually included, as just explained. Some of this information should be kept somewhere, but I do not think Misplaced Pages is the appropriate place. For example, a web spider could be used to frequently check the version available in the PPA, and update a web page on the cdrtools homepage. --Chire (talk) 11:53, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Hello Chire, and thanks for your previous edit. I agree with you that the words "of precompiled binary packages" should be removed from both the section name and the table caption. I was not happy with this edit (which added these words), but did not complain nor revert it when it was done. I wish I had reverted that edit before, and would like to do it soon if nobody is against. Thanks. Ekkt0r (talk) 06:51, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Ekkt0r: I do not think listing non-precompiled "availability" makes much sense. Instead of figuring out how to port e.g. the Ubuntu PPA package - which most likely entails that you first port the smake package, too; so it's far from a one-command process - people may just as well build the official source code of cdrtools right away. There is no need to provide alternative build instructions that then end up being more complicated; in particular not on Misplaced Pages. A layout like the "Compatible operating systems" section may also make more sense; there is not much benefit in the tabular layout IMHO. This discussion should, however, be moved to the Talk:Cdrtools page now, to reach a broader consensus. --Chire (talk) 09:19, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

User:42.104.2.240 reported by User:Kailash29792 (Result: No action)

Page

Ra.One (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported

42.104.2.240 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts

1. 08:59, 8 April 2014 (UTC) "Undid revision 603272056 by Kailash29792 (talk)"
2. 08:50, 8 April 2014 (UTC) "Stop removal of sources and edit. This edit is meant for Good Faith edit, not with purpose of vandalism! I do not want to indulge in Edit war."

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page

Comments:

Keeps trying to add misleading content, which has sources not supporting it. Kailash29792 (talk) 09:06, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

• Note. It looks like the edit war (among multiple users) has ended. If it resumes, please let me know, and I'll take appropriate action.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:27, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

User:Scapestessa reported by User:Black Kite (Result: Indeffed)

Page: Banc de Binary (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Scapestessa (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: Talk:Banc_De_Binary#Recent_whitewashing

Comments:

• Another SPA on this article, created just after a previous bunch were blocked (Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Notsosoros/Archive), and whitewashing the article in the same manner. Black Kite (talk) 15:04, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
• Blocked indefinitely as a sock puppet by Ponyo.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:36, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

User:Raphael.adams reported by User:Middayexpress (Result: Blocked)

Page: Ethiopian cuisine (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Raphael.adams (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

Comments:

Likely sock of indefinitely banned User:Hiyob346. First edited using a mobile device, then switched to Raphael.adams. Waited a few minutes on fourth revert to avoid 3RR i.e. gaming the system. Middayexpress (talk) 15:43, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

• Blocked – for a period of 72 hours. Middayexpress, I reviewed the SPI and some of the contributions of the known puppets, but I felt uncomfortable blocking on duck. Therefore, I blocked for longer than usual for the 3RR violation to give you an opportunity to open up a report on Raphael.adams. Also, next time, "likely sock" or not, please notify the user. I overlooked that problem, too.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:56, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Ok thanks. I did at first use the subst:an3-notice template , but then opted for the subst:uw-3RR template that is also recommended at the top of this board. The form said "diff of edit warring / 3RR warning", so I figured this was alright. Middayexpress (talk) 14:24, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

User:Nirril reported by User:Darkness Shines (Result: Blocked)

Page

Crimean Tatars (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported

Nirril (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts

1. 16:07, 8 April 2014 (UTC) ""
2. 11:58, 8 April 2014 (UTC) "Reverting to more correct version. There is nothing wrong with pictures and the data is current and not dated."
3. 20:11, 7 April 2014 (UTC) "Undid revision 603107954 by KazekageTR (talk) Ayşe Hafsa Sultan and Aziz Nesin were not even Crimean Tatars."
4. 22:26, 6 April 2014 (UTC) "Undid revision 603042457 by KazekageTR (talk) This is better representation for Crimean Tatars as for all 3 sub-groups.."
5. 17:43, 6 April 2014 (UTC) "reverting to more appropriate and correct version"

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning

1. 21:35, 7 April 2014 (UTC) "Warning: Edit warring on Crimean Tatars. (TW)"

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page

Comments:

Slowmo edit warrior Darkness Shines (talk) 16:25, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Someone lock the page, the war about "10%" or "12%" is clearly something which would continue forever until it is stopped by protection here. And I suspect every article even remotely related to Crimea should also be protected. Collect (talk) 17:01, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Two more reverts since the report was filed. Darkness Shines (talk) 18:59, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

• Blocked – for a period of 48 hours by DangerousPanda.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:37, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

User:PamD reported by User:Calvin999 (Result: )

Page

Jermain Jackman (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported

PamD (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts

1. 17:20, 8 April 2014 (UTC) "Undid revision 603328380 by Calvin999 (talk) Many reliable secondary sources, UK and India."
2. 16:43, 8 April 2014 (UTC) "notable - see talk page"
3. 22:19, 6 April 2014 (UTC) "winner of major TV show is notable enough for a stub, with all these sources"

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page

Comments:

Please see revision history of article and it's edit summaries. User is being uncooperative, removing tags and is OWNing the article. User is not willing to listen or abide by rules. User is using WP:CITEKILL to try and create notability despite all the sources saying the same thing. He has also reverted/undone my edits twotimes in under two hours, thus in dander of crossing 3RR. I have tried saying that the tags need to stay for a discussion, but user has removed them. There is no point giving warnings on the users talk page, as he is not listening to my edit summaries. He is also experienced, so should know better and shouldn't have to be warned. No effort has been made to talk to me on the article talk page or my own talk page to resolve.  — ₳aron 17:46, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Yes, please see the revision history and the talk page. You will note that I did not add the large number of references, only one which showed that the Times of India had covered the topic, and that I have used the talk page, contrary to the above assertion. It is unfortunate that there seems to be no venue in which "should it be a redirect or an article?" can be addressed, as I have seen AfDs rejected where the nominator has been asking for an article to be made into a redirect rather than deleted wholesale. Here we have a situation where two editors, at least, believe that this article is sufficiently notable to be an article, and one editor disagrees. I removed the "notable" tag because I believe, as stated on the talk page, that there is sufficient coverage for notability. The other editor says it shouldn't be removed "on my say-so": he wants it left, on his "say-so". PamD 18:06, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Because a two sentence article is not notable and there is nothing else to fill the article with. I hadn't seen the talk page comment, which is as short as the article itself, because you made no effort to tag me or notify me. There was no point starting a discussion if you aren't going to let me know that it's happening. One source is not enough for coverage of notability. That is why a redirect is appropriate for the time being.  — ₳aron 18:09, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

User:Rusted AutoParts reported by User:Beerest 2 (Result: Stale report)

Page

Deaths in 2014 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported

Rusted AutoParts (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts

1. 14:00, 8 April 2014 (UTC) "/* 6 */"
2. Consecutive edits made from 13:31, 7 April 2014 (UTC) to 13:33, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
   1. 13:31, 7 April 2014 (UTC) "/* 6 */ bill is not a notable work."
   2. 13:33, 7 April 2014 (UTC) "/* 6 */ night at the Museum as its his highest grossing film, and establishes the length of his career"
3. 04:05, 7 April 2014 (UTC) "/* 6 */ these aren't his career highlights. Like I said with Ramis, three is more than enough, even for those with lengthy careers. There's a discussion on the talk page if you disagree."
4. 04:00, 7 April 2014 (UTC) "Excessive. Three is enough that more than highlights his lengthy career"
5. 03:53, 7 April 2014 (UTC) "What's the problem here? Stallion and Babes were him getting Oscar nom'd, Museum is his most recognized later work."
6. 03:43, 7 April 2014 (UTC) "This depicts the length of his career more."

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page

1. 18:16, 8 April 2014 (UTC) "/* Mickey Rooney notable works */"

Comments:

Many reverts over what roles to list. Bickering started on talk page, but did not resolve war. Beerest 2 Talk page 18:17, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

I must insist this wasn't a war. The edits were within different contexts, and I have not since attempting any further alterations. Each edit was different, with none in context of warring with the content. First two were for different film titles. Third and fourth was the amount added. The last one was just me providing a comma, don't understand how that was warring. I also want to add I have been on the talk page, so it's not like I'm going about this issue with malicious aggressive intent. If I am wrong in where I stand, I can only apologize and ask mercy as this was not the intended course of action I was going for. Rusted AutoParts 18:20, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

• Stale Given the statment by Rusted AutoParts I don't see a need to take any action at this point. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 05:08, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

User:74.58.112.66 reported by User:Walter Görlitz (Result: Blocked)

Page

List of Murdoch Mysteries episodes (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported

74.58.112.66 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts

1. Consecutive edits made from 18:50, 8 April 2014 (UTC) to 18:50, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
   1. 18:50, 8 April 2014 (UTC) ""
   2. 18:50, 8 April 2014 (UTC) "/* Television films (2004) */"
2. Consecutive edits made from 18:59, 8 April 2014 (UTC) to 19:00, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
   1. 18:59, 8 April 2014 (UTC) "/* Television films (2004) */ The TV movies don't belong here. They are mentioned in the main article about the show and have links to them. This article is about the TV episodes and DVDs, nothing else."
   2. 19:00, 8 April 2014 (UTC) "The TV movies do not belong with TV episodes. Different article all together."

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning

1. 18:56, 8 April 2014 (UTC) "Only warning: Removal of content, blanking on List of Murdoch Mysteries episodes. (TW)"

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page

Comments:

The anon has been asked to explain removal and another editor and I argued against it. The anon removed it again earlier today and I reverted it. The anon then removed the material. Since I have blocked for edit warring like this I won't take on any further restoration of the material until an admin action has been made. Walter Görlitz (talk) 19:36, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Anon was previously blocked for similar edits. Walter Görlitz (talk) 22:21, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

• Blocked – for a period of three days Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 05:13, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

User:Pk041 reported by User:Smsarmad (Result: 1RR/week imposed)

Page: Rana clan (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Pk041 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: technically not exactly the previous version but

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. April 6
2. April 7
3. April 8

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: Discretionary sanctions warning, 1st block, Edit warring warning, 2nd block, Edit warring warning

Comments:
This user's edits are limited to caste related articles only and this is not the only article where he/she is slow edit warring, other articles include Rana (title), Raheel Sharif. -- SMS 19:43, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

• Sanctioned with 1RR/week per WP:GS/Caste. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 05:42, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

User:62.252.179.97 reported by User:DanielRigal (Result: Blocked)

Page

Elaine Paige (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported

62.252.179.97 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts

1. 13:48, 6 April 2014 (UTC) "Undid revision 602996336 by DanielRigal (talk)"
2. 16:05, 6 April 2014 (UTC) "Undid revision 603010483 by Nikkimaria (talk)"
3. 16:44, 7 April 2014 (UTC) "Undid revision 603022183 by Nikkimaria (talk)"
4. 13:45, 8 April 2014 (UTC) "Undid revision 603203745 by DanielRigal (talk)"

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning

1. 12:17, 6 April 2014 (UTC) "Warning: Vandalism on Elaine Paige. (TW)"
2. 20:30, 7 April 2014 (UTC) "Final warning: Adding original research, including unpublished syntheses of sources on Elaine Paige. (TW)"

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page

Comments:

This IP (which seems to be stably locked to one user and not used for other purposes) is being used to constantly reinsert a bad edit. Multiple people have reverted it. I have explained the problem on their talk page. They have not replied there or used the article's talk page, where there is also some discussion of it. They have been warned and have ignored a final warning. It is clear that they have no interest in discussion and nothing is getting through to them. They reinstate the bad edit almost daily. Perhaps a short block is needed to get their attention? DanielRigal (talk) 20:02, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

• Blocked – for a period of two days Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 05:45, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

User:31.53.37.58 reported by User:Jim1138 (Result: Blocked)

This seems to be a disagreement about which of two photos to have in the following articles.

Page: United Kingdom general election, 1992 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Page: United Kingdom general election, 1997 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Page: United Kingdom general election, 2001 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Page: United Kingdom general election, 2005 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: 31.53.37.58 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: diff 2005

Diffs of the user's reverts. These are only some of the IPs reverts on 2005 in the last 24 hours. The other United Kingdom general election articles have quite a few reverts in the last 24 hours as well.

1. 2005-1
2. 2005-2
3. 2005-3
4. 2005-4
5. 2005-5
6. 2005-6
7. 2005-7
8. 2005-8

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: 3RR warning

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on user's talk page: diff

Comments:
31.53.37.58 does not leave edit summaries, has not responded to warnings nor requests on their talk page.

Byzantium Purple (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is the other half of this edit warring, but seems to have stopped since my request here as well as discussions on my talk page. 31.53.37.58 continues to revert without comment.
Jim1138 (talk) 20:39, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

I've stopped reverting them partially because it became tiring and partially because I want this to be done properly, with discussion, and not countless reverts. It is sad that we have to go here, but there appears to be no other way we can conclude this matter. Byzantium Purple (talk) 21:26, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Blocked – for a period of two days Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 05:49, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

User:Aquintero82 reported by User:Cihuaweb (Result: Both warned)

Page: Foreign relations of Mexico (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Aquintero82 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

Comments:
Well, I'm sorry, but this is getting pretty frustrating, so I need help from administrators because it's pretty absurd how long this has gone on, as you can see I just create and replace a PNG image map to SVG image map in this page using the previous PNG map as a source of the recent SVG map, but this user did not allow it and revert it several times saying "map provided is not accurate" or that "i'm supporting my map over a map that is already in place" and things like that, the user doens't understand about Misplaced Pages:SVG image support. --Cihuaweb (talk) 21:18, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

• Warned Both users warned, Cihuaweb if someone objects to your edit, you need to discuss it with them. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 05:59, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

User:Cihuaweb is insisting that there is 'rule' that svg maps are better and must be used over PNG maps because they "provide a geometrical description of an image using basic objects such as labels, circles, lines, curves and polygons." He also insists that I revert his changes because I'm defending a map which I have created. Although that point is true, he fails to say that he too is promoting a map that HE has also created. The map he wishes to impose on articles relating to Mexico's diplomatic and foreign relations is not accurate, although he claims that he copied the information on the map that he has created from the map I've created. If that were true, he would not have left out Mexican diplomatic missions located in Malaysia, Singapore, Taiwan, United Arab Emirates and Kuwait nor would he have highlighted every Caribbean island, where Mexico does not have a diplomatic mission on each island. As a rule of thumb on Misplaced Pages, one should verify their sources using officials means, such as creating information based on the information provided by the Mexican Ministry of Foreign Affairs rather than on someone else's work. Only until today did User Cihuaweb provide a talk page of his own to discuss such matters. However, he ventures into my talk page and tells me what it is that I can and cannot do which I do not appreciate since I have been working not only on articles related to Mexican diplomacy but on over 200 related articles. There is also a point of consistency. Most maps on the diplomatic pages are similar and a PNG map allows users to change and update when necessary which a svg map does not. His reasoning that I do not understand about Misplaced Pages:SVG image support is baseless. Regards, Aquintero82, (talk), 9 April 2014, 8:11 (UTC)

User:Mr. Gonna Change My Name Forever reported by User:TheRealAfroMan (Result: Declined )

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Page: Sega Saturn (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Mr. Gonna Change My Name Forever (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Comments:

User is vandalizing. Making claims like I added false sources when I had made no edit where I added any text. You can see that in my diffs. Original reverts were made with no reasons specified. Intentional vandalism. He continues his very awkward beliefs of things in the talk page. TheRealAfroMan (talk) 23:59, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

AfroMan claimed that I was vandalizing Sega Saturn when he actually removed information from the article. I did not vandalize it, I made helpful reverts with reasons specified. Almost nothing I do is awkward.

The only false claim I made was that User:Jakandsig (User:TheRealAfroMan) was adding info, but he was actually removing reliably source truthful info already for days and weeks. He edit-warred more often than me, so considering the majority of anything he says is obviously whatever no one else believes in, as evidenced on Talk:Sega Saturn. AfroMan did make some good comments, but he was still in bad shape as he debated with Sergecross73, Indrian, and TheTimesAreAChanging about this whole Sega Saturn he disruptively edited because Red Phoenix got it up to GA status. AfroMan is a Jakandsig (Jak) sockpuppet, so he shares many of Jak's traits. }IMr*|(60nna)I{ 00:05, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

First sentence is all you need. TheRealAfroMan (talk) 00:10, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Please read WP:3RR and Misplaced Pages's policy on edit warring. Its is not okay, even if you think you are right. You will be blocked regardless, if you did in fact break it. Let me look at the edits. Sergecross73 msg me 00:12, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

That first dif is different from the rest. I only see 3 reverts, not 4. I don't see 3RR being broken. Also, he wasn't warned about edit warring, he was warned that he was being brought here. No violation here. (Though you are dangerously close. Please don't act any further.) Sergecross73 msg me 00:14, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank you Sergecross73, you're right. AfroMan put paragraph spaces in the spot after the first two sentences in my comment because he wanted everyone to believe in his obviously incorrect words. I already knew WP:3RR and WP:EW. }IMr*|(60nna)I{ 00:16, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

User:Mpc755 reported by User:FyzixFighter (Result: Blocked)

Page: Double-slit experiment (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Mpc755 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. 22:16, 8 April 2014
2. 22:37, 8 April 2014
3. 23:29, 8 April 2014
4. 00:12, 9 April 2014

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: Multiple attempts by multiple editors

Comments:

See the following responses in Talk:

1. Mpc755 (talk) 22:24, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
2. Mpc755 (talk) 22:42, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
3. Mpc755 (talk) 00:09, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Mpc755 (talk • contribs) 02:51, 9 April 2014

@Mpc755 - Even if you are engaging on the talk page or even if your edits are the truth, it does not give you an excuse to ignore WP:3RR. Plain and simple. --FyzixFighter (talk) 03:25, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

@FyzixFighter You posted the following in the edit history: "(cur | prev) 22:35, 8 April 2014‎ FyzixFighter (talk | contribs)‎ . . (44,281 bytes) (-5,715)‎ . . (rv - major WP:OR and WP:SYNTH issues, especially if this is being presented as something different from the de Broglie-Bohm theory interpretation - per WP:BRD, resolve on talk page before re-adding) (undo | thank)". You don't even know there is a difference between de Broglie's wave mechanics and de Broglie-Bohm theory and you remove the whole section on de Broglie's wave mechanics. Mpc755 (talk) 03:28, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Blocked – for a period of one day Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 06:03, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

User:Sayerslle reported by User:VQuakr (Result: Topic banned)

Page: Mint Press News (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Sayerslle (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Diffs of the user's reverts:

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Notified:

Comments:
Editor has previously been blocked for edit warring on this page. I must have missed some reverts in the list above because this editor's warring and the next one are quite similar in scope. VQuakr (talk) 04:33, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

• topic banned from Mint Press News. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 06:21, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

User:Isabellabean reported by User:VQuakr (Result: Topic banned)

Page: Mint Press News (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Isabellabean (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Diffs of the user's reverts:

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Notified:

Comments:
Editor has previously been blocked for edit warring on this page. VQuakr (talk) 04:33, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

• topic banned from Mint Press News. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 06:21, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

User:KernSibbald reported by User:Gul.maikat (Result: )

Page: Bacula (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: KernSibbald (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

KernSibbald has removed several times the section about Bareos and / or stated his personal view in that section.

Previous version reverted to: https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Bacula&oldid=603190357

Diffs are listed from oldest to newest, dates are in UTC

1. 14:16, 9 April 2014 (edit summary: "")
2. 15:36, 9 April 2014 (edit summary: "")
3. 16:03, 9 April 2014 (edit summary: "")

—Gul.maikat (talk) 17:58, 9 April 2014 (UTC) Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:KernSibbald&oldid=603480166

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Bacula&oldid=589973163

User Roeme has published an NPOV version of the Bareos section and has written a warning on the discussion page that every further change has to be discussued first. KernSibbald ignored this and changed the section again. I've reverted changes to roeme's version.

Comments:

--Gul.maikat (talk) 14:52, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

User:Rukn950 reported by User:Qwertyus (Result: )

Page

Mohammed Burhanuddin (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported

Rukn950 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts

1. 16:55, 9 April 2014 (UTC) "/* Activities */ the person has recently deceased so definately BLP violation please refer BLP. policy"
2. 16:40, 9 April 2014 (UTC) "/* Activities */ BLP violation. liable information."
3. Consecutive edits made from 15:02, 9 April 2014 (UTC) to 15:03, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
   1. 15:02, 9 April 2014 (UTC) "Undid revision 603432461 by Summichum (talk) Reverting vandalism or test edit"
   2. 15:03, 9 April 2014 (UTC) "Undid revision 603423924 by Summichum (talk) Reverting vandalism or test edit"

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page

1. 16:51, 9 April 2014 (UTC) "/* BLP Misplaced Pages:Biographies of living persons */ BLP doesn't apply"
2. 16:56, 9 April 2014 (UTC) "/* BLP Misplaced Pages:Biographies of living persons */ also properly sourced"

Comments:

Violation of WP:3RR: removal of properly sourced but critical information. Reference to the BLP policy is not convincing. QVVERTYVS (hm?) 16:59, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

As I have stated this edits are clear BLP violation. The user is trying to defame recently deceased person with unreliable source. the user clearly has POV issues. Quote from BLP Article"All quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be explicitly attributed to a reliable, published source, which is usually done with an inline citation. Contentious material about living persons (or, in some cases, recently deceased) that is unsourced or poorly sourced – whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable – should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion. Users who persistently or egregiously violate this policy may be blocked from editing."

as you can see from above user is violating BLP.Rukn950 (talk) 17:05, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

The above diff is in no way critical as user states, but pure vandalism and libelious to the deceased persons.which is not acceptable. the user is using this article as tabloid, promoting sensasionalism and propaganda.Rukn950 (talk) 17:10, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

The Above I have given the contentious allegation User:Qwertyus and User:Summichum has done. I request to Lock the article.Rukn950 (talk) 17:48, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

I don't agree with all of Summichum's edits but I have the feeling you're trying to keep the article a hagiography. I re-instated the allegations with full sourcing both in the main text and in the references. QVVERTYVS (hm?) 18:17, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks hm?This user rukn and other mdiet have a clear conflict of interest and they are using wiki to write advertisement for a person and religion , I request you to also review other bohra articles Mufaddal Saifuddin Dawoodi Bohra etc due to these users the pages are now blocked , please see, I HAD REPORTED him to the conflict of interest notice board : COI Notice to Rukn — Preceding unsigned comment added by Summichum (talk • contribs) 18:24, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

User:BlueSalix reported by User:NorthBySouthBaranof (Result:48 hours )

Page

Vance McAllister (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported

BlueSalix (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts

1. 18:25, 9 April 2014 (UTC) "Undid revision 603483770 by NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) this belongs in the section on personal life - discuss is you disagree, stop vandalizing please"
2. Consecutive edits made from 18:14, 9 April 2014 (UTC) to 18:15, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
   1. 18:14, 9 April 2014 (UTC) "/* Personal life */ undid vandalism / page sanitizing"
   2. 18:15, 9 April 2014 (UTC) "/* Extramarital affair */ undid ongoing spate of vandalism"
3. 18:02, 9 April 2014 (UTC) "Undid revision 603480822 by NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) GF undo - will delete the redundant sentence in the below section"
4. 17:35, 9 April 2014 (UTC) "/* Personal life */ fixed vandalism / page sanitizing by Gaijin42"
5. 17:19, 9 April 2014 (UTC) "Undid revision 603475419 by Gaijin42 (talk) GF undo to change plural to singular"
6. 17:02, 9 April 2014 (UTC) "Undid revision 603453835 by Gaijin42 (talk) it most certainly is"
7. 01:15, 9 April 2014 (UTC) "Undid revision 603380532 by NazariyKaminski (talk) as per WP:BLPPRIVACY, no "privacy violation""

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page

1. 18:22, 9 April 2014 (UTC) "/* please discuss edits before engaging in wholesale page rewriting */"

Comments:

Edit-warring contentious and unsourced negative material into a BLP. Lots of deceptive edit summaries claiming "good faith undo" while reverting contentious and unsourced negative material. This isn't even close to a borderline case - he's at 7 reverts in under 17 hours. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 18:29, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

No 3RR has occurred by me of which I'm aware (if I inadvertently 3RR'ed at some point accept my apology and explanation that this is an article in which one or two users are patrolling and sanitizing and the edits they're making are "fast and furious" and it is difficult to keep up with the rapidity of deletions of sourced material that has been occurring). Editors appear to be "block shopping" against editors with whom they disagree, see here: Misplaced Pages:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Vance_McAllister. I will make no other defense as I believe NorthBySouthBaranof's own edit history and Talk page comments stand on their own as per WP:BOOMERANG. (as for my "7 reverts in under 17 hours," again, I'm certain WP:BOOMERANG will paint a whole picture; also note the "attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page" was actually an attempt by me, not the editor filing this complaint; finally NorthBySouthBaranof extensive reverts will require a bit more attention to identify as he just deletes additions instead of using Undo)BlueSalix (talk) 18:33, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

• strong endorse Baranof and I may be approaching 3RR, but we are clearly falling into the WP:NOT3RR WP:BLP exception. Salix is repeatedly inserting information claiming open marriages etc which are 100% unsupported by the sources. There is no sanitizing going on. The scandal is covered in detail. Gaijin42 (talk) 18:40, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

(Gaijin42 is the other editor as per above when I referenced "one or two users.") I have inserted no information claiming "open marriage." I placed a WikiLink to the article open marriage, which I felt was appropriate. You objected to it. I deleted it. Pretty simple. This is all contained in the Talk and edit history. Please do not try to dramatize this to get users with whom you disagree blocked. This is not Battle-Wiki. (Also, kindly stop using ALL CAPS and bold in the Talk page. Let's talk softly and civilly. Thank you.) BlueSalix (talk) 18:50, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

BlueSalix does not appear to believe that 7RR is a problem that they have to deal with personally. Instead, it appears that BlueSalix is deflecting this obvious violation onto others, that it is the fault of others. If BlueSalix is not willing to accept responsibility, then the wiki needs to be protected. Binksternet (talk) 19:59, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

• Blocked – for a period of 48 hours. 48 hours seems rather little for this egregious edit warring on a BLP, but it's the user's first block. I accept the claimed 3RR exemption for NorthBySouthBaranof and Gaijin42, as they were removing BLP violations. Bishonen | talk 20:27, 9 April 2014 (UTC).

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