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| You're not exactly a good judge regarding what is or isn't personal attack, as demo-ed by you, as admin, telling Daniel Tome "good luck joining the human race someday". (Please excuse if that isn't an exact quote, if I'm off a word or two, anyway, it is the exact meaning of your PA.) For the same reason you aren't in a qualified position to tell me the severity of PA that either MaxBrowne or The Bushranger made against me re "classic narcissist" (which was wiki-linked at the ANI, BTW; perhaps you should go read the lede to said article). You have no basis for telling me "asshole" is a much worse PA (a fraction of a PA) compared to the PA levied at me. (Is there an accepted yardstick or policy that rates PAs? And how do you fit your logic that "]" is .075 of a PA compared to "asshole", when the later is just a common insult, and the former is a diagnosable personality disorder?) You sure take the cake, Panda. I think your positions taken are absurd on their face. You've taken a dislike to me ever since I objected to your slurs against Daniel Tom. (There were more than one.) Both you and Bushranger should and do know better, acc. ]. The fact other admins don't and haven't called you out speaks more to the corrupt admin culture here than anything. Two admins approached to evaluate your derogatory personal attacks on Daniel Tom gave walls of text in response, but avoided like poison saying "yes -- that was a PA". When it's oh so pink-elephant-in-the-room. (Could you carry a straight face explaining to Arbitration Committee how "good luck joining the human race someday" isn't a PA by an admin against a reg user?!) ] (]) 13:00, 13 April 2014 (UTC) | You're not exactly a good judge regarding what is or isn't personal attack, as demo-ed by you, as admin, telling Daniel Tome "good luck joining the human race someday". (Please excuse if that isn't an exact quote, if I'm off a word or two, anyway, it is the exact meaning of your PA.) For the same reason you aren't in a qualified position to tell me the severity of PA that either MaxBrowne or The Bushranger made against me re "classic narcissist" (which was wiki-linked at the ANI, BTW; perhaps you should go read the lede to said article). You have no basis for telling me "asshole" is a much worse PA (a fraction of a PA) compared to the PA levied at me. (Is there an accepted yardstick or policy that rates PAs? And how do you fit your logic that "]" is .075 of a PA compared to "asshole", when the later is just a common insult, and the former is a diagnosable personality disorder?) You sure take the cake, Panda. I think your positions taken are absurd on their face. You've taken a dislike to me ever since I objected to your slurs against Daniel Tom. (There were more than one.) Both you and Bushranger should and do know better, acc. ]. The fact other admins don't and haven't called you out speaks more to the corrupt admin culture here than anything. Two admins approached to evaluate your derogatory personal attacks on Daniel Tom gave walls of text in response, but avoided like poison saying "yes -- that was a PA". When it's oh so pink-elephant-in-the-room. (Could you carry a straight face explaining to Arbitration Committee how "good luck joining the human race someday" isn't a PA by an admin against a reg user?!) ] (]) 13:00, 13 April 2014 (UTC) | ||
| : Speaking of taking the cake, changing what I said intentionally to make it look worse ''certainly'' takes the cake. That in and of itself is a personal attack. You should know better. With bullshit like the above, IMHO you're a stones throw from permanently being off this project - and this seems to be your MO - you ATTACK the people who dare say you're wrong. Well guess what: you attacked first, but I'm still going to say "you're wrong". So what if you're narcissistic? It certainly never permitted you to make further personal attacks, did it? It certainly didn't permit you to randomly drop Max's name in locations where it didn't belong, did it? You're passive-aggressive somedays, them full out aggressive the next - and that bullshit behaviour is NOT acceptable in a community. At least I'm man enough to have literally "manned-up" to my statements and actions, and because of that, you're being awfully petty raising them again, aren't you. I don't see you doing anything "manly" whatsoever - simply going around attack wherever you see fit. That's atrocious behaviour from anyone. So, yeah, I'm a fantastic judge of personal attacks - one just has to look at the majority of your contributions to this project. <span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]]</span> 14:21, 13 April 2014 (UTC) | : Speaking of taking the cake, changing what I said intentionally to make it look worse ''certainly'' takes the cake. That in and of itself is a personal attack. You should know better. With bullshit like the above, IMHO you're a stones throw from permanently being off this project - and this seems to be your MO - you ATTACK the people who dare say you're wrong. Well guess what: you attacked first, but I'm still going to say "you're wrong". So what if you're narcissistic? It certainly never permitted you to make further personal attacks, did it? It certainly didn't permit you to randomly drop Max's name in locations where it didn't belong, did it? You're passive-aggressive somedays, them full out aggressive the next - and that bullshit behaviour is NOT acceptable in a community. At least I'm man enough to have literally "manned-up" to my statements and actions, and because of that, you're being awfully petty raising them again, aren't you. I don't see you doing anything "manly" whatsoever - simply going around attack wherever you see fit. That's atrocious behaviour from anyone. So, yeah, I'm a fantastic judge of personal attacks - one just has to look at the majority of your contributions to this project. <span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]]</span> 14:21, 13 April 2014 (UTC) | ||
| ::Oh gosh, Panda, did I make you hot under the collar? Oh gee sorry. But you seem to be a bit irrational here, making accusation without backing it up. Tell me Panda, where am I guilty of {{tq|changing what said to make it look worse}}? Show me. (And regarding your "intentionally" assume-bad-faith accusation Mr. Inside-My-Soul Gazer, let's leave that until after you show where I changed what you said.) As far as your generalized bad-mouthing me, I give a fuck about your opinion and mud-throwing. I attacked first? Where did I "attack", Mr. Accuser? (You can show that too.) I don't speak bullshit, Panda, you do. {{tq|So what if you're narcissistic?}} What's that supposed to fucking mean, Mr. Administrator? (Are you PA-ing me with that name-call, also, in addition to MaxBrowne and The Bushranger? You should answer that Q.) {{tq|and this seems to be your MO}} Why don't you keep your guesses-and-by-gollies to your fucking self? I'm not interested in your inside-my-soul gazing and guessing producing your fraudulent and misguided conclusions of personal nature re "motivations". {{tq|never permitted you to make further personal attacks}} I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. (Are you talking about my provoked response to MaxBrowne's PA at the ANI? If so that a rhetorical and provoked response to a vicious PA at that ANI. Hello.) {{tq|didn't permit you to randomly drop Max's name in locations where it didn't belong}}. In my view where I have mentioned that user's username, it was appropriate for the context of whatever issue. (Why don't you get specific rather than your generalized accusations of wrongdoing? And also support your claims with some kind of policy or guideline, and show how they match up? So I can have a chance to at least understand what the fuck you mean. Too much work for you?!) {{tq|You're passive-aggressive somedays, them full out aggressive the next}} Oh thank you Mr. Psychologist. Fact is I respond according to the situation. And I don't invest any of myself toward "passive-aggression". That is pure bad-faith presumption on your part, Mr. Mindreader. {{tq|that bullshit behaviour is NOT acceptable in a community.}} But calling someone a "classic ]" on a public board, and the offending user explaining why he is qualified to do so, and an admin reinforcing said PA by calling it "not a PA but calling a spade a spade", and you reinforcing with your passive-aggressive "so what if you're a narcissist", is example of the how a good community should perform?! (Jesus-fucking Christ. I'm supposed to take your say-so seriously?!) {{tq|At least I'm man enough}} And what are you doing now, Mr. Administrator, comparing penis sizes?! Huh?! Enough with the "I'm more of a man than you" bullshit. If you wanna look around and say how is manly or who is prissy and pricklish and over-sensitive and a complainer of constantly being persecuted where no offense is intended or present, they look at MaxBrowne's complaint in the AN. (He equates linking a post of his in a discussion as "talking about him". How more weeny and pathetic is that?! Perhaps he should 1] grow a thicker skin, 2] put away his bad-faith, and 3] stop complaining to daddy & mommy from the back seat of the car "Christopher keeps looking at me! Make him stop! Make him stop!"). {{tq|you're being awfully petty raising them again, aren't you.}} No. It supported my point. My point was that you are an ill-founded judge as to what a "personal attack" is, or lax in your responsibilities as admin per ] by issuing severe personal attacks against a reg user, without correction or understanding how you are way off the mark re ] expected behavior. (If you had no recognition of your duties then, and have not had an "epiphany" since, then you are unchanged. And I'm speaking to that -- your current set of values and lack of professionalism toward your ] expected behavior and understanding of policy especially re NPA. {{tq|I'm a fantastic judge of personal attacks}} Don't make me laugh, Panda. (And BTW, you're insulting my intelligence too.) {{tq|one just has to look at the majority of your contributions to this project}} Oh, aren't you a good generalizer! Just mud-flinging, Panda. No basis. No fact. No measure. Just insult. Mud, mud, mud. (I didn't know Panda's lived in mud. Now I know.) Why don't you dry up and stop wasting my fucking RL time?? You have a prejudice against me ever since Daniel Tome days, and you wear your bias like a baby's big. (Right up front.) You can really piss off, OK? (Or, have your over-due epiphany and get in line w/ ].) ] (]) 04:23, 15 April 2014 (UTC) | |||
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The fuck away from my shit. Fairly certain I said this to you before, anything at all to do with me, just piss off Darkness Shines (talk) 23:17, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
- I have no clue what you're talking about. If you wish to engage some form of WP:IB then go look for it, but try providing some diff'sDP 00:56, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
Sorry
I am kinda shocked to read the bad language above in here, but it makes me understand your pov. I left you a message here and I wanted to say thanks and apologize for any insult that turned up in that discussion. It was not meant that way, sorry. Have a nice day ► robomod 12:09, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
Beg a favour?
I see User:Lecen has retired again. This is usually a cue for his supporters to attack those they see as "responsible" for his departure. I'd appreciate it if my talk page was on your watchlist. Regards, Wee Curry Monster talk 07:57, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
Done from both accounts ES&L 10:31, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
Rich Farmbrough
Hi, re your post at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment#Statement by DangerousPanda/EatsShootsAndLeaves - why WP:IB? I assume that is a typo for something else, but what? --Redrose64 (talk) 17:57, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Interaction ban, probably. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 18:04, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
- Yup, meant WP:IBAN ES&L 18:15, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
Accidentally reverted you at ANI...
... sorry about that. I blame the new typography (or more precisely, the jump that occurs when my watchlist loads the script to make things look normal again). I've undone my own edit to put your comment back. Yunshui 水 14:21, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
- Heh, I was wondering! LOL ES&L 14:23, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
Reply
I did not say you were the bad guy (that was why I removed part of my original innaccurate comment). Actually, I recommended Thanatos to not talk to you as my advice to him to try and make him stay unblocked for longer, not because you are on the list of "users to avoid". Now, about the "I know, and that's exactly why I won't put my hands on that mess": He asked me to take action against you (Sorry but DP him/her-self is or has become in this case a major reason/cause of this request.) and that's something I'm not willing to do. Now about the "sudden anger": I don't have any anger against you (No, I don't have any hard feelings because you opposed my RfA), and I certainly apologize if my don't talk to him comment looked like that. → Call me Hahc21 18:11, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
- Sigh. I deleted the entire thread and take back whatever I said there. I am not going to intermeadiate and risk my skin for Thanatos, so if you end up blocking him I won't certainly yell at you. Yes, the hatch has been long buried and I have no hard feelings to you, but I still prefer that we cross our ways only when necessary, and I think that's fine for both of us. → Call me Hahc21 18:57, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
Your judgement
You're not exactly a good judge regarding what is or isn't personal attack, as demo-ed by you, as admin, telling Daniel Tome "good luck joining the human race someday". (Please excuse if that isn't an exact quote, if I'm off a word or two, anyway, it is the exact meaning of your PA.) For the same reason you aren't in a qualified position to tell me the severity of PA that either MaxBrowne or The Bushranger made against me re "classic narcissist" (which was wiki-linked at the ANI, BTW; perhaps you should go read the lede to said article). You have no basis for telling me "asshole" is a much worse PA (a fraction of a PA) compared to the PA levied at me. (Is there an accepted yardstick or policy that rates PAs? And how do you fit your logic that "narcisist" is .075 of a PA compared to "asshole", when the later is just a common insult, and the former is a diagnosable personality disorder?) You sure take the cake, Panda. I think your positions taken are absurd on their face. You've taken a dislike to me ever since I objected to your slurs against Daniel Tom. (There were more than one.) Both you and Bushranger should and do know better, acc. WP:ADMINACCT. The fact other admins don't and haven't called you out speaks more to the corrupt admin culture here than anything. Two admins approached to evaluate your derogatory personal attacks on Daniel Tom gave walls of text in response, but avoided like poison saying "yes -- that was a PA". When it's oh so pink-elephant-in-the-room. (Could you carry a straight face explaining to Arbitration Committee how "good luck joining the human race someday" isn't a PA by an admin against a reg user?!) Ihardlythinkso (talk) 13:00, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
- Speaking of taking the cake, changing what I said intentionally to make it look worse certainly takes the cake. That in and of itself is a personal attack. You should know better. With bullshit like the above, IMHO you're a stones throw from permanently being off this project - and this seems to be your MO - you ATTACK the people who dare say you're wrong. Well guess what: you attacked first, but I'm still going to say "you're wrong". So what if you're narcissistic? It certainly never permitted you to make further personal attacks, did it? It certainly didn't permit you to randomly drop Max's name in locations where it didn't belong, did it? You're passive-aggressive somedays, them full out aggressive the next - and that bullshit behaviour is NOT acceptable in a community. At least I'm man enough to have literally "manned-up" to my statements and actions, and because of that, you're being awfully petty raising them again, aren't you. I don't see you doing anything "manly" whatsoever - simply going around attack wherever you see fit. That's atrocious behaviour from anyone. So, yeah, I'm a fantastic judge of personal attacks - one just has to look at the majority of your contributions to this project. DP 14:21, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
- Oh gosh, Panda, did I make you hot under the collar? Oh gee sorry. But you seem to be a bit irrational here, making accusation without backing it up. Tell me Panda, where am I guilty of
changing what said to make it look worse
? Show me. (And regarding your "intentionally" assume-bad-faith accusation Mr. Inside-My-Soul Gazer, let's leave that until after you show where I changed what you said.) As far as your generalized bad-mouthing me, I give a fuck about your opinion and mud-throwing. I attacked first? Where did I "attack", Mr. Accuser? (You can show that too.) I don't speak bullshit, Panda, you do.So what if you're narcissistic?
What's that supposed to fucking mean, Mr. Administrator? (Are you PA-ing me with that name-call, also, in addition to MaxBrowne and The Bushranger? You should answer that Q.)and this seems to be your MO
Why don't you keep your guesses-and-by-gollies to your fucking self? I'm not interested in your inside-my-soul gazing and guessing producing your fraudulent and misguided conclusions of personal nature re "motivations".never permitted you to make further personal attacks
I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. (Are you talking about my provoked response to MaxBrowne's PA at the ANI? If so that a rhetorical and provoked response to a vicious PA at that ANI. Hello.)didn't permit you to randomly drop Max's name in locations where it didn't belong
. In my view where I have mentioned that user's username, it was appropriate for the context of whatever issue. (Why don't you get specific rather than your generalized accusations of wrongdoing? And also support your claims with some kind of policy or guideline, and show how they match up? So I can have a chance to at least understand what the fuck you mean. Too much work for you?!)You're passive-aggressive somedays, them full out aggressive the next
Oh thank you Mr. Psychologist. Fact is I respond according to the situation. And I don't invest any of myself toward "passive-aggression". That is pure bad-faith presumption on your part, Mr. Mindreader.that bullshit behaviour is NOT acceptable in a community.
But calling someone a "classic narcissist" on a public board, and the offending user explaining why he is qualified to do so, and an admin reinforcing said PA by calling it "not a PA but calling a spade a spade", and you reinforcing with your passive-aggressive "so what if you're a narcissist", is example of the how a good community should perform?! (Jesus-fucking Christ. I'm supposed to take your say-so seriously?!)At least I'm man enough
And what are you doing now, Mr. Administrator, comparing penis sizes?! Huh?! Enough with the "I'm more of a man than you" bullshit. If you wanna look around and say how is manly or who is prissy and pricklish and over-sensitive and a complainer of constantly being persecuted where no offense is intended or present, they look at MaxBrowne's complaint in the AN. (He equates linking a post of his in a discussion as "talking about him". How more weeny and pathetic is that?! Perhaps he should 1] grow a thicker skin, 2] put away his bad-faith, and 3] stop complaining to daddy & mommy from the back seat of the car "Christopher keeps looking at me! Make him stop! Make him stop!").you're being awfully petty raising them again, aren't you.
No. It supported my point. My point was that you are an ill-founded judge as to what a "personal attack" is, or lax in your responsibilities as admin per WP:ADMINACCT by issuing severe personal attacks against a reg user, without correction or understanding how you are way off the mark re WP:ADMINACCT expected behavior. (If you had no recognition of your duties then, and have not had an "epiphany" since, then you are unchanged. And I'm speaking to that -- your current set of values and lack of professionalism toward your WP:ADMINACCT expected behavior and understanding of policy especially re NPA.I'm a fantastic judge of personal attacks
Don't make me laugh, Panda. (And BTW, you're insulting my intelligence too.)one just has to look at the majority of your contributions to this project
Oh, aren't you a good generalizer! Just mud-flinging, Panda. No basis. No fact. No measure. Just insult. Mud, mud, mud. (I didn't know Panda's lived in mud. Now I know.) Why don't you dry up and stop wasting my fucking RL time?? You have a prejudice against me ever since Daniel Tome days, and you wear your bias like a baby's big. (Right up front.) You can really piss off, OK? (Or, have your over-due epiphany and get in line w/ WP:ADMINACCT.) Ihardlythinkso (talk) 04:23, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
- Oh gosh, Panda, did I make you hot under the collar? Oh gee sorry. But you seem to be a bit irrational here, making accusation without backing it up. Tell me Panda, where am I guilty of