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Revision as of 17:17, 14 May 2014 editAli-al-Bakuvi (talk | contribs)Extended confirmed users1,587 editsm Ali-al-Bakuvi moved page Talk:Afemai to Talk:Afemai people: better name← Previous edit Revision as of 15:59, 18 May 2014 edit undoSkookum1 (talk | contribs)Autopatrolled89,945 edits →Move proposal: replyNext edit →
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*'''Comment''' Unnecessary disambiguation is proscribed by TITLE, NCDAB, and NCET. The language is ]. This article is not "categorized as a language". The only reason I see disambiguation as necessary is because on the there is mention of "Afemai" being an unofficial name for "Owan West is a Local Government Area of Edo State, Nigeria. It is one of the six Local Government of Edo north which are collectively referred to as Afemai.". It that is the case, an ] disambiguation standards do not call for ], then the standalone name is fine as it is; and the language, as noted, is at a different spelling ''and pronunciation''. To me, following the logic of basic grammar and vocabulary, "Afemai" means primarily the people, and the region/Local Government casual-use name is clearly derived from the name of the people who live there. i.e. that disambiguation for that area, which would not be a redirect to ] but could be written to include all six Government Areas in question, but as such it remains official and is not a "real" title, as comma-"state" dab is not even a primarytopic candidate. I haven't done view stats or other such data searches on this to determine whether the language, different name or not, is more notable than the people. That the people self-identify with a website and the language does not.... have a website....seems clear enough as to what the appropriate action should be here; i.e. not moving this and not imposing unnecessary disambiguation. ] (]) 07:37, 12 May 2014 (UTC) *'''Comment''' Unnecessary disambiguation is proscribed by TITLE, NCDAB, and NCET. The language is ]. This article is not "categorized as a language". The only reason I see disambiguation as necessary is because on the there is mention of "Afemai" being an unofficial name for "Owan West is a Local Government Area of Edo State, Nigeria. It is one of the six Local Government of Edo north which are collectively referred to as Afemai.". It that is the case, an ] disambiguation standards do not call for ], then the standalone name is fine as it is; and the language, as noted, is at a different spelling ''and pronunciation''. To me, following the logic of basic grammar and vocabulary, "Afemai" means primarily the people, and the region/Local Government casual-use name is clearly derived from the name of the people who live there. i.e. that disambiguation for that area, which would not be a redirect to ] but could be written to include all six Government Areas in question, but as such it remains official and is not a "real" title, as comma-"state" dab is not even a primarytopic candidate. I haven't done view stats or other such data searches on this to determine whether the language, different name or not, is more notable than the people. That the people self-identify with a website and the language does not.... have a website....seems clear enough as to what the appropriate action should be here; i.e. not moving this and not imposing unnecessary disambiguation. ] (]) 07:37, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
::Disambiguation in this case is ''helpful''. There's nothing wrong with that. The article is no longer categorized by language because I removed that category last night. -] (]) 17:32, 12 May 2014 (UTC)Uyvsdi ::Disambiguation in this case is ''helpful''. There's nothing wrong with that. The article is no longer categorized by language because I removed that category last night. -] (]) 17:32, 12 May 2014 (UTC)Uyvsdi
:::Helpful: Why is it even necessary when the language's name is a ''different word'', i.e. the 'n' in the middle of ]?? The only possible parallel primarytopic for "Afemai" is the region, as yet uncited and without an article.] (]) 15:59, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

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Move proposal

"Afemai" is categorized as a language but is written about the ethnic group, so I would like to propose moving this article to Afemai people to disambiguate. -Uyvsdi (talk) 05:47, 12 May 2014 (UTC)Uyvsdi

  • Comment Unnecessary disambiguation is proscribed by TITLE, NCDAB, and NCET. The language is Afenmai language. This article is not "categorized as a language". The only reason I see disambiguation as necessary is because on the Afemai people's website there is mention of "Afemai" being an unofficial name for "Owan West is a Local Government Area of Edo State, Nigeria. It is one of the six Local Government of Edo north which are collectively referred to as Afemai.". It that is the case, an WP:WikiProject Nigeria disambiguation standards do not call for Afemai, Nigeria, then the standalone name is fine as it is; and the language, as noted, is at a different spelling and pronunciation. To me, following the logic of basic grammar and vocabulary, "Afemai" means primarily the people, and the region/Local Government casual-use name is clearly derived from the name of the people who live there. i.e. that disambiguation for that area, which would not be a redirect to Owan West but could be written to include all six Government Areas in question, but as such it remains official and is not a "real" title, as comma-"state" dab is not even a primarytopic candidate. I haven't done view stats or other such data searches on this to determine whether the language, different name or not, is more notable than the people. That the people self-identify with a website and the language does not.... have a website....seems clear enough as to what the appropriate action should be here; i.e. not moving this and not imposing unnecessary disambiguation. Skookum1 (talk) 07:37, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
Disambiguation in this case is helpful. There's nothing wrong with that. The article is no longer categorized by language because I removed that category last night. -Uyvsdi (talk) 17:32, 12 May 2014 (UTC)Uyvsdi
Helpful: Why is it even necessary when the language's name is a different word, i.e. the 'n' in the middle of Afenmai?? The only possible parallel primarytopic for "Afemai" is the region, as yet uncited and without an article.Skookum1 (talk) 15:59, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
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