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Sure! —Khoikhoi 04:49, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
what is your email?neurobio 15:45, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
- I hadn't noticed that comment, apparently Deepblue already told someone, but promise me that if someone insults you that you won't just insult back, and rather tell someone. —Khoikhoi 05:31, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
see your email. neurobio 23:34, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
dont worry just mail me another time. see youneurobio 11:23, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
you got mailneurobio 00:16, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
we have to get rid of this total fabrication "Even though nearly all the camps, including all the major ones, were open air, the rest of the mass killings in other minor camps, was not limited to direct killings; but also to mass burning, poisoning and drowning."neurobio 11:48, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
se my mail. ??? neurobio 19:13, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
Pamuk
Hi Lutherian, you are correct—however, he also clearly states in the interview that these were his views, and he didn't just throw something out there, when he said "Thirty thousand Kurds and a million Armenians were killed in these lands and nobody but me dares to talk about it", he meant it. Do you mind if I add that in the article?
Also, while we're add it, I recall you said to THOTH awhile ago that "your alleged genocide which is nothing more than the collective bitterness from a failed attempt to carve out eastern Anatolia for Armenia". You must understand, Lutherian, that this is a just a minority view. Let me point you to this New York Times article. And I quote:
Armenian lobbyists want foreign governments to declare that what happened in 1915 was genocide. Some Armenian nationalists say that if Turkey can be forced to concede this, their next step might be to claim reparations or demand the return of land once owned by Armenians.
It's not the view held by most Armenians (interesting article, btw). —Khoikhoi 00:29, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
- I see what you're saying. As for the "carving" bit, I still think it's sort of like the Grey Wolves—there are extremists from all sides. BTW, what do you think about all the personal accounts by people who said they witnessed a genocide? —Khoikhoi 20:14, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
- Interesting points, thanks. As for your question, are you contrasting this to the fact that the Armenians rebelled against the Ottoman Empire? This is something I never quite understood. If a revolution takes place, think there is a justification to eliminate the civilian population? (whether that's what happened or not) But what about the Armenian witnesses? Of course their accounts are going to be biased, but do you think they just completely made things up? —Khoikhoi 03:35, 26 June 2006 (UTC)