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| :* The history of the page has multiple instances of this attack by the likely same person using fake aliases "KLetters", "ArtTenak" and IP addresses (see Talk page and Talk Page history). | :* The history of the page has multiple instances of this attack by the likely same person using fake aliases "KLetters", "ArtTenak" and IP addresses (see Talk page and Talk Page history). | ||
| :* The vandal has been blocked by admins, and is now working with suspicious accounts to suggest the deletion of an article on someone who runs multiple international organizations and covered by hundreds of press features. This is obviously an attack and not a valid edit or suggestion of non-notability. | :* The vandal has been blocked by admins, and is now working with suspicious accounts to suggest the deletion of an article on someone who runs multiple international organizations and covered by hundreds of press features. This is obviously an attack and not a valid edit or suggestion of non-notability. | ||
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| ::*{{reply to|137.63.63.30}} Please do not engage in personal attacks. I opened this discussion ], please stop asserting otherwise. Also, I ask you again to supply a link to the previous discussion(s) regarding deletion of this article that you mentioned in your first post. Thank you. ] (]) 19:35, 28 June 2014 (UTC) | |||
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Former failed PROD. Subject fails WP:BIO. He's won a couple non-notable awards for founding JCorps. Only news coverage comes from the AirBnB sex party and from the 2014 defamation lawsuit, the latter which keeps getting quietly deleted from the article. Reads more like a promotional C.V. than a biography, but maintenance tags to that point also keep getting deleted. Even the images associated with the article are not properly attributed, unless one assumes they were uploaded by Mr Teman himself, which brings up major WP:COI issues as the uploader is the article's main author. Ashanda (talk) 14:08, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
- First, this has been addressed previously and previous nominations for deletion have been ruled against.
- Secondly, there are hundreds of press articles about Teman, not including ones on the AirBNB story, covering his comedy, entrepreneurship, activism, and technological innovations. Teman has (1) been featured in major press nationally and internationally (2) founded two international conferences (taking place in the USA and Canada), attended by over 5200 and featured on TED as "Best of the Web" and recognized by major press in those industries (3) was recognized by The White House for founding JCorps (this is sourced and is public information as are all White House guests and honorees) (4) founded GatherGrid which was also featured in Inc and is used by thousands. The photos uploaded are public record and used in multiple news articles covering Teman. Being recognized by The White House, Mayor Bloomberg, and by the Jewish Federations of North America (151 sub chapters, and over 570,000 votes in the competition) are all notable awards, as is being in a TV show with Stephen Fry on the BBC. This is getting to be a bit much and it is undoubtedly the work of a rather unsavory stalker as discussed on the Talk page of Ari Teman. 137.63.63.54 (talk) 15:36, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
- @137.63.63.54: If you could please provide the link to where this previous discussion took place, I would appreciate reading it. Also, be careful -- your final statements border on violating the No personal attacks policy. Thank you. Ashanda (talk) 16:58, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
- There goes Ari, editing his own article, this time he chose a new IP, right after his old one (173.56.18.121) was blocked. And of course Ari himself fails to give credit to a co-founder of one of his conferences, cites among his accomplishments that a publication thought two of his jokes were funny, removes clear evidence that the $25,000 prize did not go to charity, removes two well sourced lawsuits against him, states that he earned honors in college but provides no evidence, tells the audience about each award he receives three times in his own article, etc. etc. etc. Maybe he is sufficiently notable, but for his notoriety rather than his accomplishments.ArtTenak (talk) 16:10, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
- Most recent non-Ari edited version of the article: https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Ari_Teman&oldid=614713613
- @ArtTenak: Please do not engage in personal attacks. Stick to the subject of this discussion, which is whether or not this article is notable enough for retention in the encyclopedia. Thank you. Ashanda (talk) 16:58, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
- The website of the prize (http://www.jewishcommunityheroes.org/pages/rules) says explicitly that the donation goes to the 501(c)3, which it did here: "The Hero of the Year will be provided with a grant to be used as an investment in their community project or non-profit effort via his or her local Jewish Federation, or another recognized 501(c)3 charitable entity or Canadian equivalent":
- The website of the conference says explicitly that Teman is the founder: http://12gurusCharity.com/s/about.php as do multiple news sources. http://www.gizmodo.in/news/AirBNB-No-Thanks-for-the-quotXXX-Freak-Festquot-You-Brought-to-My-Home-NSFW/articleshow/32163734.cms . It would not be surprising to learn ArtTenak is or is an associate of Jonah Halper who a track record of dishonest behavior (and dishonestly claims to be the "Founder" of the conferences on his Altruicity website and linked-in. Clearly this is part of that same game, or ArtTenak is a fool falling for it.).
- 12gurus has been in business since far before NextGen and has NJ incorporation papers establishing that it existed years before the NextGen conferences. These are public record.
- It's very clear that ArtTenak is (1) acting vindictively (2) violating both the rules against discussing contributor's identities and (3) violating WP:NPA.
- The history of the page has multiple instances of this attack by the likely same person using fake aliases "KLetters", "ArtTenak" and IP addresses (see Talk page and Talk Page history).
- The vandal has been blocked by admins, and is now working with suspicious accounts to suggest the deletion of an article on someone who runs multiple international organizations and covered by hundreds of press features. This is obviously an attack and not a valid edit or suggestion of non-notability.
- 137.63.63.30 (talk) 18:50, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
- @137.63.63.30: Please do not engage in personal attacks. I opened this discussion in good faith, please stop asserting otherwise. Also, I ask you again to supply a link to the previous discussion(s) regarding deletion of this article that you mentioned in your first post. Thank you. Ashanda (talk) 19:35, 28 June 2014 (UTC)