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Dear Dougweller
Are you an wikipedia-employee??? If yes, Jimmy Wales must know about you. If no , what is ur authority to create absurd pages with wrong informations ?
I don't care about what you think , and i don't want people to get wrong informations. So,please co-operate.
Why would i do something so stupid
There is not one chance on earth that i would tell you that kind of information! You are a stranger I am a year 7 student and we learn about stranger danger lol. I think that you should be aware that this site can tell people false info and that many schools get into trouble if they use it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Susie0susie (talk • contribs) 08:35, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
- Just to clarify, I was trying to find the name of her school so we could discuss the vandalism project they are doing - 100 students tasked to add false information to Misplaced Pages. Dougweller (talk) 09:10, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
- Doug, there may be a hint in the history of the thylacine article. An IP based in Darwin, Australia, made an edit which was reverted by Cluebot about three minutes before Susie0susie's account was registered. Susie0susie's edit was made a few minutes later and reverted by Materialscientist (as you are aware), and was similar to that of the IP. Could a check establish if Susie0susie was editing from a similar location - it could give a location and timeframe to look for other edits? Also, should this be brought up on a noticeboard? 125.168.185.45 (talk) 07:26, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
Abuse?
I'm not here to "abuse" anyone. "I would really appreciate it if you don't further abuse one of our most abused editors". What are you talking about? Who is this "most abused editor", exactly? Doc talk 09:46, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
- @Doc9871: I'm another editor asking you to stop posting in that section at ANI—the subject is whether certain abuse should be documented, and if so, how. The abuse is not of the bad-word variety where editor A said nasty things about editor B—it concerns issues with real-world consequences. Per WP:DENY, it is not a good idea to explain everything in public (particularly when offering such an explanation would invite retaliation with possible real-world consequences). The issue is being discussed at Misplaced Pages's most public noticeboard, with a lot of clueful editors and admins watching. The fact that no one with knowledge of the situation is concerned about the IP shows that there is nothing to be concerned about. Johnuniq (talk) 10:16, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
I am abusing one of our most abused editors. Who is it? Is it a big secret only for the clueful to know? Who is this unjustly abused editor, pray tell? Doc talk 10:53, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
- I called out Doc's input on the ANI thread more strongly than Doug, but their post here is beyond oblivious, it's rampantly idiotic. The IP is editing logged-out, and experienced editors are explaining why, and so you want us to name him in public. Really? And also don't worry, we got your clever hint about Manchester. Gee. But I sympathise with your dislike of being kept in the dark; perhaps somebody who trusts you (rules me out, though) may be prepared to e-mail you the name. Bishonen | talk 12:06, 9 October 2014 (UTC).
- And I've called you out on your blatant misuse of "trust" by green lighting edits from a banned user. I got the name of the IP, Bishzilla. I could care less if you trust me, as you like to suck up to those you think will eventually run this site. Good luck. Doc talk 06:27, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
- User:User:Doc9871, who is this banned user you are accusing User:Bishonen of greenlighting? Dougweller (talk) 06:33, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
- She knows. This wasn't a recent thing. But it was a user who was banned by the community and remains banned. But we no longer know that, and they are free to sock again. Doc talk 06:36, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
- I'm another user asking you to drop this. If you think the IP in question was a sock of a banned user you are wrong. There is a wide swathe of editors who know the background here. You obviously don't. DeCausa (talk) 06:43, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
- Wrong. I do know who the user is. I'm not as clueless as you think. And I will not prove it by revealing it here. Thanks a bunch. Doc talk 06:48, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
- The user I'm referring to with Bish, and the user who this IP actually is, and the most notorious Manchester editor: they are 3 different people. That's all you get out of me. For the "clueful". Yeesh. Doc talk 06:53, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
- And I've called you out on your blatant misuse of "trust" by green lighting edits from a banned user. I got the name of the IP, Bishzilla. I could care less if you trust me, as you like to suck up to those you think will eventually run this site. Good luck. Doc talk 06:27, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
- I called out Doc's input on the ANI thread more strongly than Doug, but their post here is beyond oblivious, it's rampantly idiotic. The IP is editing logged-out, and experienced editors are explaining why, and so you want us to name him in public. Really? And also don't worry, we got your clever hint about Manchester. Gee. But I sympathise with your dislike of being kept in the dark; perhaps somebody who trusts you (rules me out, though) may be prepared to e-mail you the name. Bishonen | talk 12:06, 9 October 2014 (UTC).
- You should clarify, Doc9871, because I've no idea what banned user you're referring to and I'm not even sure what "greenlighting" means. I'll say this, though: if you know of any way to stop a banned user from freely socking again, that's quite a breakthrough on your part, because up to now it has been impossible. Some of the most long-time banned trolls are roaming the site as we speak. How hard is it to create a throwaway account, or use an open proxy? Bishonen | talk 10:21, 11 October 2014 (UTC).
- Of course you know who I'm talking about! Are you joking?! And in not even thinly veiled terms you have called me an incompetent idiot who is unworthy of trust around here. This is terrible form for an admin. Especially considering that I've been here for a long time, with not even one single (non-accidental) block. I don't care about being cutsie and popular here. I am not here to make wiki-pals with anyone. I will call it like I see it. Seeya. Doc talk 04:04, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
- You were arguably incompetent. That you are now claiming cluefulness is likely only because someone (Nil Einne) has emailed my identity to you. Until that was done, you were dabbling in something about which you knew nothing merely to make some sort of point about an unrelated discussion elsewhere in which you had failed to get your way. You chose to ignore the advice offered by several people of good standing, including admins, and to push the matter here and elsewhere in a rather idiotic manner. I still doubt whether you really understand what has been going on regarding me, in part because some of it is sub judice anyway and because the history is long, but I guess I'll have to assume that you have in fact now done your homework based on the email that you received.
- It really would be best if you dropped this entire thing, Doc, because it is just leading you into more and more dead ends where common sense prevents people from explaining things to you. Nothing on Misplaced Pages is entirely "open", as much as the world and its dog might think otherwise. - Sitush (talk) 04:42, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
- Are you trying to rub my nose in something? "Bad dog!" Piss off. Doc talk 07:10, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
- Not trying to rub your nose in anything. "The world and his dog" is just a turn of phrase and, I think, has also been the title to a song. Google it anyway and I'm sure you'll find a shedload of hits. - 2.125.151.139 (talk) 08:13, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
Mussolini
Hi Dougweller. Could you please proofread this passage on Mussolini, the Wal Wal border skirmish and the local slave trade and make sure it's ok? I've explained the 'emancipation' situation here. An anonymous ip removed the passage a few minutes after I had contextualized it. Best regards, Middayexpress (talk) 16:22, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
- Sorry to be slow, too many demands and then there's real life. Is there a source linking the Friedman/James stuff to the next 2 sentences? Otherwise it's OR. Dougweller (talk) 17:59, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
QUEST
sir, i am trying to give set of links as a welcome note to new users using Twinkle because majority of new users are not aware of policies and guidelines of Misplaced Pages. I want to give it each new user account, now is it all right to do so????
thanks Owais khursheed (talk) 12:07, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
Yep I got it. Fram is one of the greatest editors of Misplaced Pages. Owais khursheed (talk) 16:14, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
User:68.100.172.139
Hi. You blocked this IP 4 days ago for one week, but I'm sure when s/he comes back, s/he'll start reverting the other users' edits and making vandalism. I'm really worried about this situation. Also why didn't you move Uthman ibn Affan to Uthman? No one commented on its talk page about changing the title. So can we do it now? Keivan.f 13:14, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
- Nope. Someone has objected to it, so I started the formal process. We have to wait to see what the IP does. Dougweller (talk) 18:09, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
Requesting a block
Of Ret.Prof, for attempting to turn ANI into a WP:SOAPBOX for his personal grievances. See Andrevan admonished. Please note that I don't make such requests lightly. This is the first time in 9 years I have requested a block on anyone. Ignocrates (talk) 15:56, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
- Ignocrates, I thought of that but I think I'm too involved, sorry.
- Not a problem. I'm going to open a new thread at ANI and that should take care of any perceived conflicts. Thanks anyway. Ignocrates (talk) 18:18, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
- A request for a block has been filed at ANI. Ignocrates (talk) 18:31, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
- Not a problem. I'm going to open a new thread at ANI and that should take care of any perceived conflicts. Thanks anyway. Ignocrates (talk) 18:18, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
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Persistent vandalism on the Chuck Lavine page
Hey, I'm writing here because I'm a new user and trying to figure out how to deal with the situation on the Chuck Lavine page without violating the 3-reverts rule. I made a series of changes to the page after seeking consensus and getting advice- specifically I tried to bring the page into compliance with WIKI:BLP and NPOV, as well as add useful citations and make the format more similar to other politicians' pages. I think the result was factual, neutral and useful, though I'm obviously wide open to criticism (like I said, I'm new here).
However, there's been a consistent effort by one user (going by multiple names) to add back in the objectionable material (I'm particularly irritated with unsourced allegations, for example that Lavine installed red light cameras in exchange for campaign donations from the system's manufacturer). After you blocked NYRAMBLERR (thank you for that), two more users (Modforsquad and then Radman23) made the exact same edits NYRAMBLERR had. I suspect, though obviously can't prove, they are the same person and are using multiple usernames to create the illusion of consensus (they are also ignoring my attempts to reach out on the talk page).
Please advise on how best to proceed.
NYRambler (talk) 03:28, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
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Hey Doug, was just trying to update the Ethiopia page... Metalibertarian (talk) 13:51, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
- User:Metalibertarian ok, but I think your Dr Who edit was also a problem. It's certainly a worthwhile addition to the article. Dougweller (talk) 14:56, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
I've looked into the Doctor Who episode edit, and see it was replaced, and for what reason which makes sense to me. I'll try to keep up with other edits as well. Best practice would be to employ a free plagiarism checker and self-police my entries from now on. Thanks for you and the others using this account's time. I've really appreciated wikipedia, and am trying to be a constructive part of it. Metalibertarian (talk) 22:22, 12 October 2014 (UTC) Metalibertarian (talk) 22:35, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
Revision deletion request
Hi Doug. Please can you RD this edit which I have reverted (not true, not sourced and offensive). HelenOnline 14:03, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
- I don't think it should be deleted. We have worse vandalism on BLPs and this person is not even alive. Bladesmulti (talk) 14:25, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
- She is not alive, but the people who killed her are. HelenOnline 14:27, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
- @HelenOnline: Sorry, don't think this qualifies. Dougweller (talk) 14:57, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
- OK thanks Doug. HelenOnline 16:12, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
- @HelenOnline: Sorry, don't think this qualifies. Dougweller (talk) 14:57, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
- She is not alive, but the people who killed her are. HelenOnline 14:27, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
I am sorry
I am sorry, I didn't know. I'm new to Misplaced Pages.Thank you.Betterday123098 (talk) 20:46, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
-Ilhador-'s suspected socks
Do you remember this case? Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/-Ilhador-/Archive: https://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/Cryfe and https://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/Ruddah . Both accounts tamper with military articles' infoboxes just like -Ilhador- did . Both accounts make controversial moves and violate WP:COPYVIO just like -Ilhador- did: . I have no time to open an SPI; could you please take care of this WP:DUCK case? --Omnipaedista (talk) 17:35, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, I spent a bit of time on this and couldn't find the copyvio. What did I miss? Seems likely but I'd like more evidence. Dougweller (talk) 20:50, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
- On closer inspection I withdraw the copyvio part. But it's still pretty clear to me that those two editors are -Ilhador-'s socks. I will collect more evidence and file a CUrequest. --Omnipaedista (talk) 05:39, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
- Regarding copyvio: directly taken from here: "Baden joined forces against France, and its countryside was devastated once more." I am sure that I can find many such instances of copyvio if I search a bit. --Omnipaedista (talk) 05:52, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
- Omnipaedista That's copyvio within Misplaced Pages which was part of the problem before, I'd forgotten that and was looking for copyvio from outside. Obviously we need more than that, hopefully you'll find more. Sorry I haven't had time. Dougweller (talk) 18:54, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
- Regarding copyvio: directly taken from here: "Baden joined forces against France, and its countryside was devastated once more." I am sure that I can find many such instances of copyvio if I search a bit. --Omnipaedista (talk) 05:52, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
- On closer inspection I withdraw the copyvio part. But it's still pretty clear to me that those two editors are -Ilhador-'s socks. I will collect more evidence and file a CUrequest. --Omnipaedista (talk) 05:39, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
Transient windows in printed articles
When I print an article immediately after editing (locally, to a PDF file, but probably also on a real printer), there is a framed window showing "Your edit was saved." across every page. The window obscures the printed text. Could someone please fix that? Maybe CSS provides a way to suppress the window from the printing view. --El Cazangero (talk) 16:04, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
- Responded at editor's talk page. Dougweller (talk) 16:32, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
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Alsótatárlaka
Do you know what Alsótatárlaka means? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.12.157.119 (talk) 05:34, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
- You don't care... You found a Hungarian book from 1963 mentioning the name? 5.12.157.119 (talk) 07:50, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
- I found what we call a reliable source mentioning the name. You don't seem to want to tell me in any case. Even if it is objectionable, I know of a number of English language placenames that aren't very nice, but we don't censor them. Dougweller (talk) 09:51, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
- You're not quite sure what you found. It's not objectionable in the way you thought it was; I was trying to find out why you put it back. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.12.157.119 (talk) 10:17, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
- Because it's the name of a place. Are you seriously saying the Hungarian Misplaced Pages is incorrect?. And any edit summary "fuck off" instead of an explanation is unacceptable. Dougweller (talk) 13:20, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
- You're not quite sure what you found. It's not objectionable in the way you thought it was; I was trying to find out why you put it back. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.12.157.119 (talk) 10:17, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
- I found what we call a reliable source mentioning the name. You don't seem to want to tell me in any case. Even if it is objectionable, I know of a number of English language placenames that aren't very nice, but we don't censor them. Dougweller (talk) 09:51, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
Question
I am looking to make an article. You seem like a great contributor. I am willing to pay upfront on paypall, online gift card Visa, cash via mail. Please let me know if your interested. GKKelly997 06:08, 16 October 2014 (UTC)GKKelly997 — Preceding unsigned comment added by GKKelly997 (talk • contribs)
Thanks
Thanks for the cookies. And thanks for welcoming meHikaruaizora (talk) 09:17, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
London School of Business and Finance
Hi Dougweller - you have reverted activity I posted stating that it is promotional, when in fact it is press coverage in the media talking about various aspects of the LSBF business, posted to inform potential students about LSBF and current activities. Could you consider reverting this decision? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MenoPorsche (talk • contribs) 13:42, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
- Hello, MenoPorsche (talk · contribs). Dougweller was correct to revert you here. While some of what you added can stay if worded better, your additions were overly promotional. See Misplaced Pages:Promotional. Misplaced Pages articles are not meant to be advertisements in any way. Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia, and it is generally for a general audience. Let us say that what you added is not promotional; the content you added to the article still should not be primarily for potential students. Like I stated, Misplaced Pages is aimed at a general audience. You should also be mindful of WP:Conflict of interest. Do read and study the guidelines I have linked you to.
- On a side note: I moved your post down and gave it a heading because new sections go at the bottom, per Misplaced Pages:Talk page guidelines#Layout, and your post was highjacking a different thread. Also, remember to sign your posts on Misplaced Pages talk pages. All you have to do to sign your post is simply type four tildes (~), like this:
~~~~. A bot signed your post for you above. Flyer22 (talk) 14:23, 16 October 2014 (UTC)