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| == Regarding your Arbcom statement on Gamergate == | |||
| {{quote|...a controversy that has begun because real people have been doxxed and harassed for their beliefs that women should be treated as equals in society...}} | |||
| I'm not sure you understand the situation. From your perspective, you may believe this to be a true and accurate summary of the situation. But from the GG perspective, the controversy began ''because people have been making statements like that, in blatant contradiction to what people in GG know to be true and trivially verifiable''. | |||
| Seriously, where are the people who don't believe that women should be treated as equals? How is that notion evidenced in any way by what's being said on the GG tag? The statements that people object to from Sarkeesian et. al. go far, far beyond that and have nothing to do with equal rights for women. If this is really all about harassing women, then how is it that on a hashtag that has gathered literally over '''three million''' tweets, the supposed targets are few enough to be enumerated by name? You're aware, I hope, that Gjoni's blog post came out almost two whole weeks before the introduction of the #Gamergate tag - a long time on the Internet - and that a great many things were discovered during that period, yes? You understand that the coinage "Gamergate" is explicitly designed to connote a ''scandal involving censorship'', yes? Even early talk on the tag was not about Quinn nearly so much as about ''not being allowed to talk about Quinn''. | |||
| I'd like to ask you to consider the perspective of other people here. I'll leave you with a link that describes pretty well what I see going on in the "social justice" scene: http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/07/07/social-justice-and-words-words-words/ | |||
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Regarding your Arbcom statement on Gamergate
...a controversy that has begun because real people have been doxxed and harassed for their beliefs that women should be treated as equals in society...
I'm not sure you understand the situation. From your perspective, you may believe this to be a true and accurate summary of the situation. But from the GG perspective, the controversy began because people have been making statements like that, in blatant contradiction to what people in GG know to be true and trivially verifiable.
Seriously, where are the people who don't believe that women should be treated as equals? How is that notion evidenced in any way by what's being said on the GG tag? The statements that people object to from Sarkeesian et. al. go far, far beyond that and have nothing to do with equal rights for women. If this is really all about harassing women, then how is it that on a hashtag that has gathered literally over three million tweets, the supposed targets are few enough to be enumerated by name? You're aware, I hope, that Gjoni's blog post came out almost two whole weeks before the introduction of the #Gamergate tag - a long time on the Internet - and that a great many things were discovered during that period, yes? You understand that the coinage "Gamergate" is explicitly designed to connote a scandal involving censorship, yes? Even early talk on the tag was not about Quinn nearly so much as about not being allowed to talk about Quinn.
I'd like to ask you to consider the perspective of other people here. I'll leave you with a link that describes pretty well what I see going on in the "social justice" scene: http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/07/07/social-justice-and-words-words-words/