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| :*"''Anyone can create a website or pay to have a book published, and then claim to be an expert in a certain field. For that reason, self-published books, personal websites, and blogs are largely not acceptable as sources.''" | :*"''Anyone can create a website or pay to have a book published, and then claim to be an expert in a certain field. For that reason, self-published books, personal websites, and blogs are largely not acceptable as sources.''" | ||
| :The Geocities site is not a reliable source accepted by Misplaced Pages (bullet 3), and even it where, it doesn't pass bullets 1 and 2 as it is a primary source. Thus Matrixism does not pass the verifiability requirement for Misplaced Pages. I'll remove it once again. -- ] 15:55, 16 July 2006 (UTC) | :The Geocities site is not a reliable source accepted by Misplaced Pages (bullet 3), and even it where, it doesn't pass bullets 1 and 2 as it is a primary source. Thus Matrixism does not pass the verifiability requirement for Misplaced Pages. I'll remove it once again. -- ] 15:55, 16 July 2006 (UTC) | ||
| Jeff, you're absolutely right. Doubtless, you will be very pleased to know that I have taken your advice and changed the reference to a secondary source. ] 16:34, 16 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
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For a June 2005 deletion debate over this page see Misplaced Pages:Votes for deletion/Church websites
Christian bias
There is a lack of view points other than Christian. 80.189.177.227 16:22, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Matrixism
Matrixism is a reasonable attempt to start an internet based religion, this is clearly within the parameters of Religion and the internet. Personally, I think Matrixism should not currently be listed at List of Religions, because for example, they are insufficiently notable to have their own article. Being insufficiently notable to have their own article does not however mean they have been censored from ever being mentioned. In the context of this article, giving them a mention is proportionate. 80.189.198.225 10:47, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
- The link to the Geocities has been considered vandalism and linkspam on Misplaced Pages (see Misplaced Pages:Redirects_for_deletion/Precedents/Deleted#Matrixism and Misplaced Pages:Most vandalized pages) by tons of people. It is not a verifiable or reliable source by any standard, and is just an attempt to increase the traffic to their website (If it wasn't the main user who adds the link would be happy with the inclusion of the name without the link, which he isn't). Misplaced Pages is not supposed to be used an attempt to increase their population (see Misplaced Pages:Vanity guidelines). -- Jeff3000 14:36, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
Jeff, I have read the various discussions you mentioned. Misplaced Pages is about writing an encyclopedia, not a committee that decides religious truth. Tons of people may be very rude about a philosophy, that does not mean the philosophy should not be mentioned. Much of the scathing remarks could have been made about Digital Philosophy or Scientology. The fact persons who consider themselves followers of Matrixism are not currently prepared to work inside the rules of Misplaced Pages, does not prove the concept should not be mentioned. This article is about religion and the internet, I am suggesting they are notable enough for a mention. For the avoidance of doubt, I am not suggesting they should have a mention on List of Religions until they have their own article. 80.189.197.184 15:13, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, writing an encyclopedia. Please check the Misplaced Pages:Verifiability. I quote from that page "The threshold for inclusion in Misplaced Pages is verifiability, not truth. "Verifiable" in this context means that any reader must be able to check that material added to Misplaced Pages has already been published by a reliable source, because Misplaced Pages does not publish original thought or original research." and "Any edit lacking a source may be removed". Notice the term reliable source. Let's now go to Misplaced Pages:Reliable sources. Quotations from that page:
- "In general, Misplaced Pages articles should not depend on primary sources but rather on reliable secondary sources who have made careful use of the primary-source material."
- "We may not use primary sources whose information has not been made available by a reliable publisher."
- "Anyone can create a website or pay to have a book published, and then claim to be an expert in a certain field. For that reason, self-published books, personal websites, and blogs are largely not acceptable as sources."
- The Geocities site is not a reliable source accepted by Misplaced Pages (bullet 3), and even it where, it doesn't pass bullets 1 and 2 as it is a primary source. Thus Matrixism does not pass the verifiability requirement for Misplaced Pages. I'll remove it once again. -- Jeff3000 15:55, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
Jeff, you're absolutely right. Doubtless, you will be very pleased to know that I have taken your advice and changed the reference to a secondary source. 80.189.184.21 16:34, 16 July 2006 (UTC)