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: {{ping|Snow Rise}} I appreciate the time you've taken to examine this situation and attempt a reasonable response. I'm not willing to waste any more time on it—and it ''is'' a waste because neither the community nor the belligerents have any real interest in solving the problem. The community did not back me up when I took administrative action against TRM for violating the IBAN, so I won't be doing it again, even though the thread you linked is an obvious violation. {{u|Jehochman}} made a good faith effort to mediate at the time he unblocked TRM, but that didn't go anywhere and I'm positive TRM did not interpret any of what has happened as negative reinforcement of his behavior. If anything, they've all been shown that the community will continue to tolerate it. Maybe it will end up at ArbCom, at which time I'll file a statement and evidence, but until then I've got more productive things to do. I advise you do the same. --] ] 15:45, 23 January 2015 (UTC) : {{ping|Snow Rise}} I appreciate the time you've taken to examine this situation and attempt a reasonable response. I'm not willing to waste any more time on it—and it ''is'' a waste because neither the community nor the belligerents have any real interest in solving the problem. The community did not back me up when I took administrative action against TRM for violating the IBAN, so I won't be doing it again, even though the thread you linked is an obvious violation. {{u|Jehochman}} made a good faith effort to mediate at the time he unblocked TRM, but that didn't go anywhere and I'm positive TRM did not interpret any of what has happened as negative reinforcement of his behavior. If anything, they've all been shown that the community will continue to tolerate it. Maybe it will end up at ArbCom, at which time I'll file a statement and evidence, but until then I've got more productive things to do. I advise you do the same. --] ] 15:45, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

::Yeah, alright -- I can't rightly say I blame you for not wanting to be the one to put yourself out there again in that context. Certainly I couldn't agree more with most everything you've said, especially as regards the fact that the community has largely enabled, rather than restrained, this whole affair and that the disruptive parties have only been emboldened as a result. TRM in particular is so consistently insulting in his dealings with others (''especially'' when his behaviour is under direct scrutiny), that it's just jarring to me; I can't imagine anyone else getting away with 1/100th as much without a block. Perhaps Jehochman will be willing to take a look at the matter, if only to follow the discussion on the talk page and make sure things do not get out of hand; TRM didn't exactly utilize the unblock in the spirit Jehochman had intended, after-all. But I rather got the impression from the last ANI that they were as fed-up up with the matter as you. Well, I hope somebody with a mop follows it in any event, because once that ball gets rolling, nothing short of tools is going to stop it. Good luck to the regular editors who get caught in that gravity well in the meantime... ] ] 16:34, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

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Jason Ricci

Hello.

Thanks for all your work on the Jason Ricci page. I found a number of details in relation to his father, which I have included. His date of birth is mentioned here; possibly taken from his previous website.

His sexuality appears quite prominent on the page, which I noticed you done some editing on. Some of the recent articles and reports I found mention a girlfriend. So he possibly is bi-sexual? Recent material expand quite a great deal on his trouble with the law and his addiction.

See here: http://articles.southbendtribune.com/2013-01-09/entertainment/36265327_1_ricci-blues-harp-big-walter-horton

http://indianapublicmedia.org/news/heroin-costs-world-famous-harmonica-player-64383/

I suppose some of this material needs to be included in the page in some way. But before embarking on it, I would prefer to discuss it first. Karst (talk) 14:27, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the help on this! Yes I was working on the page to bring some balance to it, and at the same time I've been looking up some sources. His personal web site has a hidden page where he's posted some scanned news articles as well (hidden meaning there is no link to it on his front page, but I found it via googling). I'd like to end with a balanced page where his musicianship is the focus (since that's why he's notable) but we also pay due attention to the elements of his personal life which are prominent in sources (mainly his struggles with drugs/prison and his sexuality). I've heard him describe himself as both "gay" and "bisexual" in interviews, so I'm not sure where to go with that. --Laser brain (talk) 14:33, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
I tend to favour bisexual, considering the above references point to a girlfriend, but it would be good to have a detailed reference on that from him. I suppose a personal life section would cover those issues, leaving the rest of the article to focus on the music. When that is done, the lengthy quote can be reduced further. The articles on his website I had indeed not noticed, those would be very useful indeed! Karst (talk) 12:10, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Precious again

featured pet projects
Thank you, Andy, for quality articles such as Elderly Instruments and Musical Instruments, for FAC reviews, for you projects (people and whisky), and for knowing about break and retirement, - repeating: you are an awesome Wikipedian (15 February 2010)!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:51, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

A year ago, you were the 700th recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:51, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

ps: perhaps the list of recipients might serve as a list of people better not to block ;) - we have enough sorrow (see links to the image on talk pages) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:35, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Happy Holidays

Happy Holidays
Wishing you and yours a Happy Holiday Season, from the horse and bishop person. May the year ahead be productive and troll-free. - Ealdgyth - Talk 15:05, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

FIFA Club World Cup

I noticed you had questions about the article's nomination.

Ask away! Hawaiifive0 (talk) 19:22, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Re: Tyler Bates

For now, I'm working in some spanish wikipedia articles. Tyler Bate's article may not look good, but it has a more complete information about his work in the film industry that it had before, if you want to finish the table and add more information about his other work, do it, if not, then do what ever you want. However when I have some free time, I'll add the rest of the tables with his work on TV, Games etc... Goodbye!--Fallengrademan (talk) 01:25, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

New logging system for DS notices (since 3 May 2014)

Hello Laser brain. Recently you updated the notice log at WP:ARBIPA. Arbcom case logs shouldn't contain any 'notice' entries later than 3 May, 2014 since that's when Arbcom switched over to using an edit filter for notices. Some information is at WP:AC/DS#Awareness and alerts. See also the comment under 'Log of notifications' at Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Palestine-Israel articles#Log of notifications. The advice not to log notices any more is scattered around on various arb-related talk pages. Explanation of how to notify is given in Template:Ds/alert. To clear this up, I'll ask User:Callanecc if he agrees that the notice log of WP:ARBIPA should be trimmed. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 17:06, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Ah, I must have made a wrong turn in the maze somewhere. I think last time I notified someone I got in trouble for not putting it in the log. ;) Thanks for the refresher, and for all your hard work. --Laser brain (talk) 17:28, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

You're back!?

Sooo many years ago. I"m very glad to see you here. Tony (talk) 02:14, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

@Tony1: Yes! Thanks for the warm words. --Laser brain (talk) 13:00, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

response to message

response to message
Hi Laser Brain,

Couldn't figure out how to respond to your message. I am not ed stringham and I don't believe I've violated the wikipedia's conflict of interest stipulation. I was however mistaken in posting the copyrighted material, and understand and appreciate your decision to remove it. I merely want to see more anarcho-capitalist academic literature. Hayek, Mises, Rothbard, and many other ancaps are already all over wikipedia. I'm just looking to add some modern ancap literature, like that of Stringhams. :) Regardless, I think I will take a break from editing as it's back to school for me. Econgrad03281992 (talk) 19:52, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

A brownie for you!

I don't believe we've crossed paths before, but I have been on Misplaced Pages for 9 years. Needless to say, I've been around for some fun discussions and some less-than-fun discussions. I just wanted give you my thanks. Thank you for all the effort you have put into Misplaced Pages. You are a great contributor to the project.

Have a nice day! Best wishes! hmich176 18:35, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Welcome back to FAC!

Welcome back to the FAC delegate/coordinator team, Andy -- following the closure of the FAC and FAR coordinator proposal earlier today, I've added your name to FAC instructions and the @FAC template, so you're right in it again now... ;-) Looking forward to working with you! Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 09:37, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

@Ian Rose: thanks! Glad to be aboard once again. --Laser brain (talk) 14:22, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
Hey Andy, welcome aboard, and let me know if I can help with anything. - Dank (push to talk) 22:57, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Steve Zakuani

Do you have a few moments to take another look at Steve Zakuani. It isn't ready yet but I want to see if it is on the right track. I addressed some sourcing, English variances, and other MOS while cutting out some of the more "fluffier" language. More importantly, I wanted to address your concern over the breadth of content and expanded the section on his professional career along with a few other shorter paragraphs.Cptnono (talk) 07:04, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Reply re chill

Thanks, Laser brain, I agree that it is time for all parties involved to chill, please, as you say. Therefore, as noted, on my user talk page, I'm taking some time off to exercise and get some fresh air. — Cirt (talk) 00:28, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

ANI notice

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.— Cirt (talk) 17:37, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Look, maybe I'm jumping the gun on this, but...

I thought you might want to know that The Rambling Man is circling around Medeis again suddenly. After being absent from the Ref Desks since the last time he was accused of following her there to hound her (connecting with the same ANI discussion in which you blocked or unblocked him; the events also caused a fair amount of disruptive discussion on the Ref Desk talk pages at the time)...anyway, after being absent from that point on, he's suddenly shown up again and, without any other kind of activity on the desks first, has joined a discussion about a topic which Medeis is being generally criticized for right now. He doesn't mention her by name, but he does lambast the very activity she's being described as engaging in, and just scatter-shot insults anybody who happens to be standing nearby at the same time, in that way of his so that he can't be technically said to be engaging with her directly.

Like I told him, I don't know that it's a screaming violation of his IBAN, but he doesn't seem to be there for constructive purposes in any event, and with his ill regard for the place generally, I should think he would want to avoid that space, given two users he has IBANs with contribute there more or less daily. Especially as said IBANS have collectively garnered 9 or 10 ANI inquieries -- I forget exactly how many exactly; 9 or 10 more than should have been necessary if they could act like editors should, in any event. Anyway I thought you might want to be aware of it, in case it's destined to explode on to ANI -- once again, almost immediately after the last one closed. Honestly, if it does (and I don't care which of them starts it or which of them overreacts this time), my only lowly (but I suspect popular) recommendation from the outset is going to be ArbCom. I know they have their hands full with larger issues right now, but this needs to at least be presented to them next if those parties (TRM and Medeis in particular) can't learn to stay out of eachother's way. Or at least that's what I think.

Anyway, I'm going to try not to get further enured in the petty drama between them on this go around, but before I began ducking the whole affair entirely I thought someone with oversight privileges best be aware of where things seemed they might be headed. I couldn't recall exactly if you were the admin who blocked him or unblocked him (blocked, I think), but I've seen you engage him more than any other single admin at ANI, so I figured you were the one to inform. For obvious reasons, I didn't want to ANI it. Hope I'm not just bringing you a giant headache.... Snow talk 14:33, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

@Snow Rise: I appreciate the time you've taken to examine this situation and attempt a reasonable response. I'm not willing to waste any more time on it—and it is a waste because neither the community nor the belligerents have any real interest in solving the problem. The community did not back me up when I took administrative action against TRM for violating the IBAN, so I won't be doing it again, even though the thread you linked is an obvious violation. Jehochman made a good faith effort to mediate at the time he unblocked TRM, but that didn't go anywhere and I'm positive TRM did not interpret any of what has happened as negative reinforcement of his behavior. If anything, they've all been shown that the community will continue to tolerate it. Maybe it will end up at ArbCom, at which time I'll file a statement and evidence, but until then I've got more productive things to do. I advise you do the same. --Laser brain (talk) 15:45, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, alright -- I can't rightly say I blame you for not wanting to be the one to put yourself out there again in that context. Certainly I couldn't agree more with most everything you've said, especially as regards the fact that the community has largely enabled, rather than restrained, this whole affair and that the disruptive parties have only been emboldened as a result. TRM in particular is so consistently insulting in his dealings with others (especially when his behaviour is under direct scrutiny), that it's just jarring to me; I can't imagine anyone else getting away with 1/100th as much without a block. Perhaps Jehochman will be willing to take a look at the matter, if only to follow the discussion on the talk page and make sure things do not get out of hand; TRM didn't exactly utilize the unblock in the spirit Jehochman had intended, after-all. But I rather got the impression from the last ANI that they were as fed-up up with the matter as you. Well, I hope somebody with a mop follows it in any event, because once that ball gets rolling, nothing short of tools is going to stop it. Good luck to the regular editors who get caught in that gravity well in the meantime... Snow talk 16:34, 23 January 2015 (UTC)