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I am trying to populate content on two particular pages but I am being harassed by a particular user who is far more Misplaced Pages savvy than I am. Please help me! TITUSIIX (talk) 14:34, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Complete and utter nonsense. What you are actually trying to do is to promote church organisations that you are associated with by editing and creating articles about them in clear violation of Misplaced Pages's Conflict of Editing (COI) policies as found at WP:COI. And the only harassment going on is what you are attempting on my talk page. You are the one out of order on these matters. You were informed about your COI edits but chose to ignore it. Anglicanus (talk) 14:42, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

My friend you are incorrect yet again and out of line. I am trying to provide information where there is none and I am admittedly new to wikipedia and will improve my edits. However, I cannot do this if you continue this behavior.TITUSIIX (talk) 14:55, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

You can stop trying to fool me and anyone else that you are a "new" editor. You are obviously otherwise. It is your behaviour which is the problem here. You are engaging in some very obvious Conflict of Interest editing. How much clearer do things need to be explazined to you? Anglicanus (talk) 15:04, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

my account is 24 hours old and I have never edited a page on this site with another account or IP address at any point in my life. I have zero experience. But again I must thank you again for your unbalanced accusations. Your sir, are far too aggressive for your own good. Not very charitable behavior coming from a cleric.

I simply don't believe you. Your claims are not credible. Your editing shows that you obviously already have considerable knowledge of how to edit articles and do other Misplaced Pages tasks. Your account may be only 24 hours old but you are obviously an old hand on here. Anglicanus (talk) 15:21, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

He may be a computer scientist, he may have edited another wiki ... Competence is not proof of guilt. Furthermore, some of his edits do show inexperience (we in articles, not signing, needing several edits to add a section header etc.). If you think it will stand up, take it to SPI. Otherwise, drop it. Happy Squirrel(Please let me know how to improve!) 15:23, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Are you serious? If you want to "know how to improve" then stop being so naive and defending this nonsense. He may be fooling you (and even himself) but he certainly hasn't fooled me. You are not "helping". Anglicanus (talk) 15:37, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

I am not being naive, I am assuming good faith, as should you. Your accusations have been stated on this talk page for the record, kindly take them to SPI or drop them now. Simply reasserting them is not wp:civil. That continues to hold even if you feel that wp:bite does not here. I am sorry my comments are not helping you. This will be my last reply to you here, unless I feel you are attacking TitusIXX. Good-bye Happy Squirrel(Please let me know how to improve!) 15:45, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

It is not an issue of helping me. It is a problem of you defending the problem. And I can look after myself thank you very much. I stand 100% behind my comments. There is every good reason to believe that this is a very clear case of COI editing and I am not being fooled by it by assuming good faith when this is not appropriate. His use of "we" might have been a flag to you but you think it is just inexperience. Possible but unlikely. Anglicanus (talk) 15:58, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Anglicanus: I fail to see your evidence of being an old account. If you have evidence of socking, go to SPI. Vague hints are counterproductive. Similare for COI. If just being from a religion is COI, I don't see how we can get anywhere. Do you have better evidence of COI? Perhaps you mean wp:NPOV? I agree with you on that, but it is a less serious and more easily corrected matter. TITUSIIX: words like a agressive and harass may be a little strong. Happy Squirrel(Please let me know how to improve!) 15:12, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Yes, perhaps they are. Alas, this user has got me "riled up" TITUSIIX (talk) 15:17, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

I read the article quickly. It's not perfect, and it needs more balancing material. However, I don't see it being that far out of line. The multiple templates added to your talk page and the protection request seem a bit of a case of wp:OWN, but could you please calmly explain that instead of wp:bite him. I am leaving the helpme tag up. Happy Squirrel(Please let me know how to improve!) 14:48, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, I am doing my best with this platform but I am continuously stopped in my learning progress by this behaviour. I would greatly benefit from some help from this user instead of being bitten!TITUSIIX (talk) 14:53, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

OK so some tips after reading your diffs:

• Try editing articles you don't care about. It sounds silly, but it will give you awesome practice, and let you learn more about the community.
• When editing on a page someone cares about, avoid using canned edit summaries unless they perfectly align with what you are doing. A fixed typo with over a thousand bytes of difference will raise eyebrows.
• Don't remove warning tags unilaterally. Dicuss on the talk page, get other editors (for example from Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Christianity) involved.
• If someone reverts or complains about your edits, use the article talk page. Warning templates and page protection are really only for after multiple reverts or incivility. See Wp:Brd.
• Have fun, don't take it personnally and take the high road. If you are really stressed, log off, eat, sleep. Misplaced Pages will be there in the morning.

Hope that helps! Happy Squirrel(Please let me know how to improve!) 15:03, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you very much, this is very helpful! I will definitely seek help from the other editors as you mentioned above. I am trying to learn! And yes, you are right to say that Misplaced Pages will be here another time. There are more important things to tend to then fruitless squabble. TITUSIIX (talk) 15:11, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Another quick thing. "We" and "you" should generally be avoided in articles. You are supposed to be writing from the outside. This is a knack which you will pick up editing unrelated articles Happy Squirrel(Please let me know how to improve!) 15:14, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

That makes sense to me! I didn't think of that! TITUSIIX (talk) 15:17, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Oh yes, and signing your posts on talk pages with 4 ~ is also considered helpful. Happy Squirrel(Please let me know how to improve!) 15:18, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Old Catholic Confederation

COI on Old Catholic Church in the United States

I will be seeking the removal of this article and having you blocked from editing for your obvious, blatant and repeated WP:COI violations. You are also running a significant risk of bringing your church into disrepute by editing this way. Anglicanus (talk) 02:16, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

You are incorrect yet again. I am will within the Misplaced Pages policy on content population. I would imagine that you will prevent anyone from populating this page with information

https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Assume_good_faith

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There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Anglicanus (talk) 02:43, 22 April 2015 (UTC)