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A beer for you!

Thanks for helping tidy up the info box in the new Bumpers article. I have enjoyed all of our discussions. You have a lot of terrific ideas for articles. Garagepunk66 (talk) 20:40, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

A propos of nothing....

...I think your username is quite clever. BMK (talk) 21:10, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks BMK I thought it was a nice little tribute to Grace Slick. TheGracefulSlick (talk) 17:13, 26 April 2015

Yep, and I like the allusion to The Grateful Dead as well. (Jefferson Airplane/Starship was at one time my favorite band. Saw them once at Radio City Music Hall, but Slick wasn't in the band at that point.) BMK (talk) 23:25, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

I had the opportunity to see Jefferson Starship two years ago. Only has Paul Kanter these days, but was still an excellent performance. It's a shame I couldn't see Jefferson Airplane/Starship at the pinnacle of their existence. It has been a dream of mine to see Slick live (though I know I probably never will), she and Janis Joplin, in my opinion, are the best female vocalists I ever had the privilege to listen to. TheGracefulSlick (talk) 21:57, 26 April 2015

A barnstar for you!

	The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
	Here is a Barnstar for your tireless work creating new articles, improving old ones and for persevering at all odds. Keep it up. This is a psychedelic spinning star! Garagepunk66 (talk) 20:07, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Ultimate Spinach

Since I visited the article nearly 2 years ago I do not remember it's state at that time. You did a good job fleshing things out. I feel like I have a better idea of what the group was about and their impact on the music of the day. I have not checked the plagiarism that seemed to exist when I last visited. There were a few instances of grammatical clumsiness which I tweaked. Again, thanks for your effort. From my standpoint, you improved the article.THX1136 (talk) 16:32, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

rude people

Misplaced Pages full of rude people that it is nice when you leave a message that is not rude. You are clearly getting the point across in a reasonable way without being a bully. Dharahara (talk) 20:47, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Freddie Gray

Hello... I'm having trouble understanding your deletion of the Alan Dershowitz quote from the Freddie Gray article. In your edit comment, you wrote, "Not even seen in the reference." But I quoted directly from the video clip at the referenced URL. (Actually, I inadvertently omitted a word without showing the omission with ellipses. Was that why you deleted the paragraph?) I have restored the deleted material, with the omitted word restored. If you think the paragraph doesn't belong, let's discuss it on the talk page. Thanks. Peter Chastain 03:09, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

User:Peter Chastain We generally don't use clips, but no I have no issues with it. Except does the lawyer have any connection to the case or is he just voicing an opinion?TheGracefulSlick (talk) 03:12, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

User:TheGracefulSlick Thanks for responding. Dershowitz has no connection with the case, but his comments, which have been widely quoted in the past 24 hours, seemed relevant in a "Public response" section. I wasn't aware that WP didn't generally use video clips. Aren't they kind of equivalent to quotes in a newspaper? Peter Chastain 03:55, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

here come the liberal thought police telling me that it is a crime to quote text from an article to try and bully me into being silent

WP:GA

The way to handle a GA nomination (GAN) is outlined at WP:GA and the assorted subpages (best to at least skim them all to get a feel for the process. If you want to see what a review might look like, I just did one for Sybil Plumlee - see Talk:Sybil Plumlee/GA1 for my review and the other editor's replies. One done by a different reviewer recently was Highland cattle, see Talk:Highland cattle/GA1 (Frankly, I'd have been a little pickier on that, but I also respect the reviewer who did the work). For a GA-class album, note Abbey Road (see Talk:Abbey Road/GA1 ) The biggest things that trip up new people are 1) Not enough material cited, or cited improperly, 2) Inconsistent formatting, 3) Problems with copyright on images, and 4) A need for copyediting. Hope this helps. (BTW, I noticed that you have a lot of uploaded images with incorrect rationales you may want to fix so they don't get deleted; album covers are copyrighted even if they are albums you own... you don't own the images ... To do an album cover, it has to be a "fair use" rationale, as was done for File:Beatles - Abbey Road.jpg). Montanabw 22:14, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks

For your comments on my talk page. Not necessary, but certainly appreciated. It's obviously a topic that both inspires and divides people, depending on how they see it. My temperature got up extremely briefly, but I realized that you were acting in good faith based on how you saw it. I respect that you stepped back and were able to see it another way. Not easy to do. I edit on a lot of controversial sites (my blood pressure would be lower if I abstained). My goal is always to see that both sides of the story are fairly presented and let the reader draw his own conclusions. Thanks again. John2510 (talk) 02:55, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Interesting trivia

Did you know that Rick James and Neil Young were in the same band in the mid 60s? Yep. The band was called the Mynah Birds. Bruce Palmer (also later in Buffalo Springfield along with Neil) was in the group too. Cool huh? Garagepunk66 (talk) 01:29, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Garagepunk66 that is interesting, I didn't know about this band surprisingly, something I should read more about. I was reading about the Music Machine (one of my favorites) and their later career as the Bonniwell Music Machine. Apparently, Bonniwell wrote over 300 compositions in the year 1967, alone, many of which were never released, but were recorded. Your fact was a lot more cooler, did the band release any singles or albums?TheGracefulSlick (talk) 01:47, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Interesting.Garagepunk66 (talk) 19:41, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Garagepunk66 I'm not sure if this interests you, but The Chocolate Watchband (still need to finish that article!) are releasing an album sometime this month called I'm Not Like Everybody Else. It includes the first versions of their songs with their actual lead singer, David Aguilar, instead of Don Bennett, and re-recorded versions with most of the original members. I definitely will try and buy it when it is released!TheGracefulSlick (talk) 22:02, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

I'm very excited. But, I hope that they come up with some new material, too (you can't beat the original records). Hopefully, they could find a studio with all vacuum tubes and vintage recording gear (if Alec Paulo is on board, I'm sure he'll do it that way--I believe he has a studio--he is also such a great writer). They could make a masterpiece, particularly with Aguilar back in tow. Garagepunk66 (talk) 23:17, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Garagepunk66 I know what you mean, it is a shame they never had a whole LP with the actual Chocolate Watchband. I don't know how successful they would have become, but it would have made their music even more of a classic. It seems a lot of garage rock bands (The Music Machine, The Electric Prunes, Count Five, etc.) had so much potential, but something out of their control limited them to only brief success. It is encouraging though to see some of those groups reforming and still making an impact in the music world.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 01:08, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

It is such a glory (but at the same time a tragedy), that there were so many incredible groups in the 60s, that there was just not enough room for all of them to become successful. However, I am thankful for having each and every one of them, and I'm sure you'd agree. Amen. Garagepunk66 (talk) 01:28, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

And I also love the big acts: the Beatles, the Stones, Dylan, the Who...the list goes on and on. Imagine what it must have been like back then to go to the record store after a day of school and see the latest albums by all of these people positioned right there on the front rack. Then, after that, go home to listen to them with your friends, gathered around the record player for hours in awe. And then, the next day be rehearsing with those same friends as a band in the garage. Imagine having an band on every other block in your neighborhood keeping the whole Pleasant Oak subdivision awake! Garagepunk66 (talk) 01:46, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Garagepunk66 Of course, don't get me wrong I love the big guys, especially the Doors, the Stones, and the Animals. I am actually lucky enough to have record stores nearby, but the same experience from the 60s cannot be replicated. It is truly inspirational to read about all the group's that went out and performed, even if they aren't quite as respected as the chart listers.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 01:58, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

I have always thought that garage rock, though part of the whole tumultuous change in the 60s, retained an element of what Lester Bangs referred to as "Old America." If Beaver, from the 50s sitcom, Leave it to Beaver, could have been around in the 60s he would have had a garage band. Well, guess what...he did!!! Jerry Mathers, who had earlier played Beaver, had a 60s garage rock band called Beaver and the Trappers. They recorded a song called "Happiness is Havin'" and I think few others. Check it out on Youtube!!!Garagepunk66 (talk) 19:07, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

L.A. Woman

I made a couple of touch-ups and slight corrections on the L.A. Woman article. I'm sure that you will like them. I will look at some of the other articles when I get a chance. Garagepunk66 (talk) 19:23, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

I hope you like most of my touch-ups. It might be best to say that it is the first album to "picture" Jim Morrison bearded--to just say he is bearded may confuse the reader. So, we need to point out that little detail. Garagepunk66 (talk) 22:20, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Garagepunk66 I wrote it that way because it is a quote, but I think the reader can get the idea by reading the whole quote.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 22:22, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

We can try it in different way, but having the word "pictured"--encyclopedic language has to be laser-precise. Garagepunk66 (talk) 22:24, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

I just tried a paraphrased version of the idea, that i think you will like. Garagepunk66 (talk) 22:40, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

In the part we have been discussing, there is not a begin-quotation mark. We need to put one in so we can signify where the quote begins. I will insert a begin-quotation mark. If I do it wrong, you can correct me, because you know the quote. Garagepunk66 (talk) 23:00, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

There was a beginning quote. The quote begins "I wasn't .... . Other than that, I think the quote is good now.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 23:08, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

OK. I'm on a public pay-as-you-go computer (I'm running out of bills), so I will log off. Thanks for all of your great work. I wish you and your family a happy Memorial Day weekend! Garagepunk66 (talk) 23:12, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Garagepunk66 you too, I appreciate a knowledgable person such as yourself helping me out.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 23:14, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Sorry I screwed up on the statement about Morrison's beard yesterday. I didn't realize that the quote had begun a few sentences previous--I was in a hurry on that god-awful pay computer (sometimes on the edit page, everything looks like a blob--Wiki ought to color-key the reference blocks, to make the text part easier to decipher). Also: I was thinking that, once I can get a reference and citation, we can re-instate the comment about Pamela Courson (as part of that multiple-meaning metaphor in the song, "L.A." Woman). It is mentioned in the DVD documentary on the making of the album, and if I remember, I read it in book awhile back, I believe Dany Sugarman's, but it may be a different book. When Morrison sings: "I see your a hair-burnin.' Hills are filled with fire. If they say I never loved you, you know they are a liar," he is making, not only a sunset metaphor about the city he loved, speaking of the city as if a lady (that he was about to leave to go to Paris), but also a literal reference to his companion, Pamela Courson, who had red hair. He can also be seen as connecting L.A. to Paris when he says "City of Light." Morrison was such a great lyricist in the may he expressed things that could be interpreted on so may levels, simultaneously. By the way, I think that the song, "L.A. Woman" is the Doors greatest moment (the album too, which I put right up there with their first). Garagepunk66 (talk) 21:18, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

Garagepunk66 I was just glad that we could come to a mutual understanding. I don't like having to critique someone because I'm afraid I might hurt their feelings. I had no issue with the Courson reference (though maybe it could fit better in L.A. Woman (song)), I just prefer to wait for a source. I trust you were right, regardless. My favorite song from the album was "Riders on the Storm", and it's tied with "When the Music is Over" as my favorite overall.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 21:33, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

Great songs!Garagepunk66 (talk) 18:52, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

I made a couple of other minor touch-ups that I think you will like on the L.A. Woman article. Garagepunk66 (talk) 19:26, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Garagepunk66 I liked the touch ups, but I kinda liked how it described Morrison Hotel as a transitional album.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 19:34, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

It was indeed a transitional album, but the term "transitional" is not normally used as a descriptor of style, per se, but rather to describe something's place in a process. But, we could find a way to mention (somewhere else in the section) about Morrison Hotel being a transitional album (on the way to L.A. Woman). In the overall passage, we need to find a way to make it more clear to the reader that Morrison Hotel came in between Soft Parade and L.A. Woman. By the way, I like he phrase a lot that you put in: "simplified and straightforward" (describing the style of Morrison Hotel). That sounds really good. One little thing: we usually do not say that style "manifests" from something, but that it is the "style of...", so it would be better just to say: "style of Morrison Hotel..." But, don't worry. Editing isn't supposed to be easy. It involves writing and re-writing (gosh, I have to re-edit myself a lot). It takes time to arrive at the best possible way of saying things. With just a few more touch-ups, we can get the wording just right. Garagepunk66 (talk) 22:10, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Re: vandalism threats

Let me know if you'd like your talk- and userpages semiprotected for a few days. Bishonen | talk 21:20, 26 May 2015 (UTC).

Done. Bishonen | talk 22:54, 26 May 2015 (UTC).

Thanks Bishonen, hopefully the IP won't bother anyone anymore.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 22:56, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

WP:ANI

IP address 82.132.225.224 has posted a message at WP:ANI#Message for TheGracefulSlick saying they want to talk to you but can't, and asking for you to reply to them there. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:04, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

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		Thank you for defending me at WP:ANI against User:WordSeventeen. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:44, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

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The United States of America

I've just discovered an interview with Dorothy Moskowitz in Shindig! magazine, #42, with a lot of interesting detail - http://www.shindig-magazine.com/ Don't know if you've seen it? When I have time, I'll add details to the relevant articles. Ghmyrtle (talk) 12:37, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Ghmyrtle thanks for showing me this, I was not aware of the interview (though I should have been!). I have been busy with some Rolling Stones songs, but I look forward to the interview's worthwhile information.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 13:52, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

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The Graceful Slick....

Is a space mule prick, and we control his talk page! 86.142.21.55 (talk) 23:14, 6 June 2015 (UTC)