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This page is within the scope of WikiProject Israel, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Israel on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.IsraelWikipedia:WikiProject IsraelTemplate:WikiProject IsraelIsrael-related Project This page does not require a rating on Misplaced Pages's content assessment scale. Project Israel To Do: edit history watch purge Here are some tasks awaiting attention: Assess : Rate the Unassessed Israel-related articles and Unknown-importance Israel-related articles. Cleanup : Cleanup listing for this project is available. See also the list by category and the tool's wiki page. Collaborate : Participate in WikiProject Israel Palestine Collaboration. Copyedit : Timeline of the Israeli–Palestinian conflict in 2005 Deletion sorting : Participate in discussions at WikiProject Deletion sorting/Israel. Expand : Ayala Procaccia, Diamond industry in Israel, Edna Arbel, Levin Kipnis, Rami Kleinstein, Sephardic Haredim, Zman Tel Aviv, Nachum Heiman, Public Defence (Israel), Prisoner of Zion, Trial of Benjamin Netanyahu, Day to Mark the Departure and Expulsion of Jews from the Arab Countries and Iran, Pre-Modern Aliyah See also Articles needing translation from Hebrew Misplaced Pages. Geographical coordinates : Add geographic coordinates to Israel articles missing geocoordinate data. Infobox : Add infoboxes to Israel articles needing infoboxes. Maintain : See Israel articles needing attention. Map : See discussion at Module:Location map/data/Israel. Add maps to articles in Misplaced Pages requested maps in Israel. NPOV : Jewish exodus from Arab and Muslim countries Photo : Add pictures to articles in Misplaced Pages requested photographs in Israel. Stubs : See Israel stubs. Update : Basic Law proposal: Israel as the Nation-State of the Jewish People Other : Translate to Hebrew : David Bar-Hayim, Guy Bavli, and Guy Oseary.

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RFC

An RFC relating to the pervasive Misplaced Pages practice of wikilinking the article "Israeli Jews" under the word "Israeli" ("X person (born Y date) is an Israeli so-and-so ...") in biographical articles is now open here. —  Cliftonian (talk)  08:47, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

Discussion moved here. —  Cliftonian (talk)  18:45, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

RFC over. Consensus seems to be strongly against aforementioned links. —  Cliftonian (talk)  06:45, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

@Cliftonian: It's too soon to close the RfC. It has only been a week, and now is a holiday season in Israel, so some editors who might have an opinion haven't been able to respond. Also, it's not quote obvious what the consensus is, it's wrong for someone as involved as you to call it. “WarKosign” 11:39, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi WarKosign. Very few people seemed interested in discussing this over the week this RFC was open. Although those who commented differed on which final option they preferred—as you say, there was no clear consensus on the exact particulars—not one person favoured the status quo of many articles opening with a link to "Israeli Jews" under the word "Israeli", the issue that was the RFC's whole raison d'etre. It therefore seemed to me a snowball case we could just as well wind up so we could get on with the pertinent thing which is to remove these links. I apologise if you disagree. —  Cliftonian (talk)  15:41, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

Outdated reports in Human rights in Israel

Hi, I open a discussion about the use of outdated reports in the article here. Rupert Loup (talk) 01:41, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Sur Baher

Recently I have had some difficulty maintaining what I consider to be the neutral point of view on the Sur Baher article. I feel like I am the only NPOV voice on that article and its talkpage. I ask my fellow editors to have a look at the recent history of this article, and voice their opinions. Maybe I am wrong, maybe I am right. If I am right, then please be aware that my voice needs support. In addition, any improvements to the article and its sources will of course be appreciated. Debresser (talk) 17:37, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

RFC: Is the One Million Plan relevant to the Jewish exodus from Arab and Muslim countries?

See the RFC at:

Talk:Jewish_exodus_from_Arab_and_Muslim_countries#RFC:_Is_the_One_Million_Plan_relevant_to_the_topic_of_this_article?.

Oncenawhile (talk) 15:18, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

List of violent incidents in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict, July–December 2015

In a wake of current wave of violence: has anyone a time & energy to check this and prev. Lists?
IMHO they should be either removed, or seriously edited taking into account NPOV requirements.

See also their Talk/s. --Igorp_lj (talk) 00:23, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

RFC List of military occupations

There is an RFC here that you may be interested in.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 18:52, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Automatically-updating population figures

I've finally worked out a way to update the population figures annually without updating all 1,205 articles (the number of places the CBS do it for). I have created {{Israel populations}}, which contains all the populations (open an edit window, and you'll see - this is where we can update it annually). On each article, we then just need to add {{Israel populations|Placename}} (use the CBS name as listed in the template), and it will look up the single template. The year function can be done with {{Israel populations|Year}}, which looks up the same template. It can also be used in the text in the introduction. See my edits to Sde Boker.

Once it's rolled out, individual articles will no longer need updating, so hopefully this will save a lot of work. I'll look to start updating all the articles in the near future. Cheers, Number 57 16:23, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Deletion review

I saw the Afd at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/The Third intifada was closed as a redirect. A quick count shows that there were some 8 in favor to keep, 4 delete and 4 redirect. I think there is room for a Deletion review, and keep this article. FYI. Debresser (talk) 16:23, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

Consensus is not a vote. Misplaced Pages is not a democracy. It's not actually relevant if there were more votes in favor of keep.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 08:39, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

I am well aware of WP:VOTE, but at the same time, saying that the votes are not relevant, is plain stupid.

As I said, in this case, based on both the votes and the arguments of the discussion, I think there is definitely room for a deletion review. What you guys here want to do with that, is up to you. Debresser (talk) 12:03, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Votes are irrelevant. Arguments are not. Which arguments do you feel have major swaying factor that should have lead to another consensus other than the current one?-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 18:47, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Since you repeat your point of view, so will I. Saying that the votes are not relevant, is plain stupid.

I posted this FYI. If you are interested, please look for yourself. If I were interested in doing this, I'd have done it already. I posted here only because I feel a deletion review is the right thing to do, and has a good chance. Debresser (talk) 19:57, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

That's great that you think it's stupid, that's also irrelevant, but still great. The number of votes are irrelevant. The actual arguments made are what is relevant. Again I say, Which arguments do you feel have major swaying factor that should have lead to another consensus other than the current one? FYI, I'm interested, that being the purpose of the question. Do you have an underlying position on the close other than keep got the most votes?-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 23:34, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

For answers to all of this, please see my previous post. Debresser (talk) 08:08, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Special:AbuseFilter/731

FYI there exists an edit filter, Special:AbuseFilter/731 , which disallows edits in Namespace-4 (Misplaced Pages-namespace) which contains the word Yiddish or Jew or Hebrew or similar -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 04:11, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

@NawlinWiki: I assume the filter is intended to block some antisemitic troll. Will this filter block anyone anywhere from making an edit containing these words ? There are legitimate reasons to write "Jew" or "Hebrew"... “WarKosign” 07:04, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Montefiore Windmill

The Montefiore Windmill is standing with its sails in the St George's Cross position + at the moment. This is as a mark of respect because millwright Vincent Pargeter, who was involved in the restoration of the mill, passed away over the weekend. Are there any editors in Jerusalem who could take a photo of the mill with the sails in this position and upload them to Commons please? Mjroots (talk) 19:13, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Military Occupation of Gaza

Is Israeli a military occupier of Gaza? Some folks seem to think so. https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:List_of_military_occupations#Protected_edit_request_on_11_November_2015 Yossiea 14:46, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

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