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Covert United States foreign regime change actions
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This article is a giant mess of cobbled-together synthesis and original research, lacking any consistent criteria for inclusion and including several cases of U.S. nonintervention where it is alleged that the U.S. had intelligence on a coup but did not intervene to prevent it. In sum, there is simply no scholarly concept of "Covert United States foreign regime change actions" that would include everything from the rescue of European hostages in the Congo, to overt arms supplied to insurgents to "tie down" the Soviet army in Afghanistan, to bombing raids in Indonesia, to the AFL-CIO's support of Solidarity in Poland. Although CUSFRCA has not been renominated for deletion since the last AfD failed to reach a consensus, there have been several recent discussions where deletion was suggested, involving @Staberinde:, @Bobrayner:, @Vanamonde93:, @My very best wishes:, @Taospark:, @MyMoloboaccount:, @Jarble:, @Emijrp:, and myself. Throughout this time, opponents of deletion have conceded that CUSFRCA is a POV WP:Coatrack, but argued it might yet develop into a coherent article based on reliable criteria, someday. That's obviously never going to happen, because there are no reliable sources that discuss the alleged concept of "CUSFRCA". "CUSFRCA" is not a single area of study, but the singular obsession of a few Misplaced Pages users. TheTimesAreAChanging (talk) 06:51, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. ssт✈ 07:09, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. ssт✈ 07:09, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
- There were some more documented and direct examples of American intervention which were deleted in edit wars last year and while it's not a cobbled list, it does have a lot of style and coherence problems. I've seen the references and article referenced well enough and while some sections are questionable, it has a contribution of information. In closing - there is also a very long history of scholarly recognition of the topic of "covert US regime change" ranging from Noam Chomsky to more dedicated political science and geopolitical analysis both for and against. -Taospark (talk) 08:15, 13 December 2015 (UTC)