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:I think you know my stand (and others), he is one of the greatest managers. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif">]&#160;]</i> 11:12, 29 January 2016 (UTC) :I think you know my stand (and others), he is one of the greatest managers. <i style="font-family:Sans-serif">]&#160;]</i> 11:12, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
{{ping|Davefelmer}} I will gladly support you if you do choose to report. Qed237 needs to be told to stop blindly reverting articles. ] (]) 16:26, 29 January 2016 (UTC)


== Edits to MCFC 15/16 Season page == == Edits to MCFC 15/16 Season page ==
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Hi. Can you please tell me what was the reason you had for reverting all of the edits I just made to this page. Hi. Can you please tell me what was the reason you had for reverting all of the edits I just made to this page.
Thanks. ] (]) 23:11, 27 January 2016 (UTC) Thanks. ] (]) 23:11, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

== Stop. ==

If you are concerned about the veracity of an edit, Google is available for consultation. It was announced yesterday by Wenger that Jenkinson is back with Arsenal. Please stop reverting and start contributing. ] (]) 16:21, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

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    Geoffrey Kondogbia

    If you notice, this user has a vast array of IPs (all starting with 79), and he never updates one single time, EVER. At least here, in Fredy Guarín, Martín Montoya and Jeison Murillo, which are the only Inter players I edit in.

    Continue the good work, cheers --84.90.219.128 (talk) 23:57, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

    UEFA Euro 2016

    Hi,

    I'm sorry but the capacity of the stadium of Lyon is: 59,186. cf the official website of the french football league : http://www.ligue1.com/club/olympique-lyonnais — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oromis 33 (talkcontribs) 23:21, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

    @Oromis 33: Please read the note under the venues, it says Note: Capacity figures are those for matches at UEFA Euro 2016 and are not necessarily the total capacity that the stadium is capable of holding.. Do you have any source that full capacity will be used? Qed237 (talk) 10:13, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

    FA Cup

    But Carlisle United will be playing Everton at Goodison Park because it says so on the BBC Sport website — Preceding unsigned comment added by AMamun84 (talkcontribs) 20:47, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

    (talk page stalker) @AMamun84: Where exactly? Because , , all say the game is in Carlisle. Joseph2302 (talk) 21:07, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
    As does the BBBC Sport website. Joseph2302 (talk) 21:08, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
    @AMamun84 and Joseph2302: Before reverting I looked everywhere and could not find any source saying that they will play on Goodison Park. When making such changes a link must be provided so the information can be verified. Qed237 (talk) 21:29, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

    Poor articles

    If you don't have the time or inclination to expand what should be a notable topic, then why not simply redirect them to the main article? GiantSnowman 14:50, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

    Probably worth gauging the opinion of WT:FOOTY to see what should be done. AFDing a notable but incredibly outdated/poor article that nobody can/will work on seems strange. GiantSnowman 11:38, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

    A cup of tea for you!

    Thank you for fixing all those also wills! bonadea contributions talk 17:41, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

    Superleague Greece

    Hello Qed237. The official proclamation of 2015–16 Superleague Greece, says clearly (article number 10) that 1. The teams will fill the two (2) latest posts immediately go to the second division; 2. The number one and two places of this year's second division promote for the 2016–17 Superleague Greece; 3. The 2016–17 Superleage Greece will take place including 16 teams. Thank you, 2A02:587:5410:D200:A454:EB12:C070:D003 (talk) 21:57, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

    Okay great. I have two questions. Where did you find those rules? Why remove soccerway? Qed237 (talk) 22:00, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
    The official site of 2015–16 Superleague Greece (here it is the rules, in Greek: http://ad78b57024136e3657c1-14621d44fda2de1b7e1bfdf7734d3121.r41.cf3.rackcdn.com/gFnO38AAkRzajE02GeneWgtYQmUAnvje.pdf) is much more reliable than any other source. Why all this edit warring and confusion for something so clear? 2A02:587:5410:D200:A454:EB12:C070:D003 (talk) 22:05, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
    It was not clear at all since the rules was not present at the table and I still dont know where they can be found. Also I still have not been given any explanation why soccerway was removed? Qed237 (talk) 22:07, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
    All we had was http://www.epo.gr/media/files/KATASTATIKO_KANONISMOI/KAP_EPAGGELMATIKON_OMADON_2015.pdf Qed237 (talk) 22:09, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
    After more investigation you got it from http://www.superleaguegreece.net/el/download-zone I would think. Qed237 (talk) 22:14, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

    Allsvenskan/Swedish Champions

    Arguments or sources for any Allsvenskan "title" (note: "title" not top finish) being given the years that the competition winner was determined by playoffs. As long as we have no such official ruling we should go by what is given by the rulings of the Swedish football association regarding the main title of the Allsvenskan competition.

    We should still present the stats for finishing top of the league table. But we should be accurate in not describing it as a title. Since it was not for some years.--Mvhtnb (talk) 22:02, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

    Addition: To clarify the official statement says exactly this regarding counting of Championship wins for stars above crest. Naming no such thing as a Allsvenskan Champion:
    "Stars for Championship wins may be printed/sown above the club crest. One star per 10 Championship wins, what is counted as Championship winner is the officially recognized Swedish Champion."

    //SvFF 2015--Mvhtnb (talk) 22:14, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

    Take it to article talkpage for discussion and consensus, until dispute has been resolved, per WP:BRD the old long standing revision should stay. Qed237 (talk) 22:56, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

    User:Soccer8295

     Done GiantSnowman 12:37, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

    El Shaarawy

    Hi there, I'm having a situation with User:Misiunea10 as he states that Stephan El Shaarawy's date of exit from Monaco should be written as 2015-2016 in the infobox. Even though he left the club in January 2016, he hadn't played since 2015. So shouldn't it just be written as 2015 in the infobox? I remember seeing an example of this with Alessandro Nesta and Miami FC since he signed as coach in 2015, but the infobox says 2016 since play doesn't start till then. (Then as soon as I reference him to Nesta, he takes it upon himself to change it on his page too without further discussion.) Who is correct here? He also is correcting a date in the national team infobox for the U19 team to 2010-2011 from 2010. He tells me Transfermarkt says it says this, even though Trasnfermarkt isn't technically a reliable source. The Italian article says just 2010 like how it was before as well. Thanks. Vaselineeeeeeee (talk) 20:09, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

    @Vaselineeeeeeee: From what I can remember, we should put the year the player left/signed for winter seasons, so when a player leaves mid-season in January like El Shaaraway we should put him as 2015-2016 as he left in 2016. However, for some leagues like the American league, they play spring-fall seasons (i.e. 2015 season, 2016 season etc instead of 2014-15, 2015-16 and so on) and for those leagues it is okay to say he left 2015, since he left after the previous season. But when a player leaves mid-season like shaaraway he had a contract in 2016 so it was then it ended. About transfermarkt, you are right, it is not a reliable source. Qed237 (talk) 20:31, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
    So the conclussion is that we should put 2015-16 for El Shaarawy but keep it as 2016- for Nesta since he is for Miami in the MLS even though he signed in 2015? Or should that be changed to 2015- ? Vaselineeeeeeee (talk) 20:37, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
    @Vaselineeeeeeee: If I remember previous discussions correctly, that is what I would go with. 2015-16 for El Shaaraway and 2016- for Nesta. Qed237 (talk) 20:47, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

    Reverting

    Stop reverting things you have no right to revert. The comment about the greatness was settled in the talk page, and it merely describes the sources given. Your argument prior about not EVERYONE seeing him as the greatest doesnt hold water as the sources merely imply many do, which is true. Our job is not to say what we want to say but what the sources say and all the sources say he's the greatest. The second part was a factual quote from the Guardian which supports a point that was agreed on on wikiproject football weeks ago.Davefelmer (talk) 22:28, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

    It has been settled on the talkpage? No, not what I can see. Now please start listening to me and other editors. Qed237 (talk) 22:33, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

    First of all, the other editor made note about sticking EXACTLY to the sources when I referenced another piece of info so I countered that that wasnt what was currently being done with existing sources since they described AF as the greatest and we had it down as one of the greatest. He didnt reply. Secondly, this is not how consensus works. Editors can't "decide" that for this article, you won't use the information from the sources and say something different from what the sources say instead. the fact that three have done so is ridiculous and makes me wonder whether outside factors are at play. Thirdly, the part about the guardian and other media quoting him as the most successful manager is also factual, sourced and was agreed to be added on wikiproject football (on top of the fact it shouldnt need to be as its sourced by the flipping Guardian). Davefelmer (talk) 04:04, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

    You can't keep senselessly reverting or I'll report you. The sources say something not corroborated in the text which I've attempted to fix and the part about the guardian was agreed and is archived on wikiproject football and in any case its a quote from a very reliable paper in the guardian. There is absolutely 0 reason to keep changing, as I've gone through all the right channels and quoted only reliable news sources. You can't revert something because you don't like it. Others may have done the same but that doesnt make it any more right. All you are doing is edit warring now. Consensus cannot decide to not match the information of a source with the written text. Davefelmer (talk) 21:29, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

    Report me if you like that is you right but I warn you about WP:BOOMERANG. First you say yourself No official distinction of major or minor trophies. Total count listed. for United and then you add "Minor" section at an other article? Your bias has been clearly shown and other editors have even warned you. Qed237 (talk) 21:51, 28 January 2016

    Bias my arse. I phrased it poorly and explained what I actually meant in the talk page. This has nothing to do with this article. And I'd say you are at risk yourself seeing as I have explained my point on the talk page to no response, reached consensus over another on wiki football and am doing what wikipedia is about; having the text reflect the sources which it does not do at present. Davefelmer (talk) 23:21, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

    Okay, report me if you want. Qed237 (talk) 23:24, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

    But that's the thing - I don't want to report people. I'd rather either you either explain your stance or accept that all I'm trying to do is reflect source content in the actual text. Davefelmer (talk) 07:15, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

    I think you know my stand (and others), he is one of the greatest managers. Qed237 (talk) 11:12, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

    @Davefelmer: I will gladly support you if you do choose to report. Qed237 needs to be told to stop blindly reverting articles. Eightball (talk) 16:26, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

    Edits to MCFC 15/16 Season page

    Hi. Can you please tell me what was the reason you had for reverting all of the edits I just made to this page. Thanks. Ratchet8865 (talk) 23:11, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

    Stop.

    If you are concerned about the veracity of an edit, Google is available for consultation. It was announced yesterday by Wenger that Jenkinson is back with Arsenal. Please stop reverting and start contributing. Eightball (talk) 16:21, 29 January 2016 (UTC)