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A barnstar for you!

The Barnstar of Good Humor

Whenever I'm unhappy I always find myself visiting your user page. Some of the quotes you've kept, especially the "censorship in China" one and the "white male atheist" one really make me laugh. This is a thank you for not only making me laugh, but also for everything else you do here. I really liked your collapsible sections also - if you don't mind, I've used them on mine :-D Keep up the good work sir. Ches (talk) 18:05, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

@Chesnaught555: Thank you! I actually took a lot of inspiration from the lowercase sigmabot III page, as well as Fut.Perf's. GAB 20:05, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

No problem! --Ches (talk) 20:08, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Sorry to hear you felt your RfA didn't go too well. I wish you the best of luck for the future, and any other future nominations. --Ches (talk) 18:05, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, and good luck. GAB 23:13, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

My RfA question

Personally, I would have immediately blocked "MelanieC" per WP:IMPERSONATE (Melanie C), and I would have warned "RoyalJordanian" per WP:CORPNAME and WP:ISU (Royal Jordanian). Admittedly my question was tricky, and your answer already exceeded my expectations. Good luck with your RfA. It is tough for any candidate. sst✈ 05:10, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

• I'm firmly of the belief that you should get the adminship, and that the opposes on the nature of "too soon" are completely ridiculous. The RFA Process is a stressful week for any candidate, I just want you to know that win or lose you still have many allies here. Good luck, and try not to stress yourself out too much! — Coffee // have a cup // beans // 06:21, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
• Hi GeneralizationsAreBad. On my preliminary vote rationale in neutral, it's up to you whether you wish to give it a shot or not. If you do, you can choose how you go about it. For example, if you think you have addressed some of the matters by/upon answering certain questions in your RfA, you can just refer to the specific Q&A numbers. Alternatively, if you think you can address it in a direct reply, you can do it either in reply to the oppose vote or even to mine. Or you might even use a combination of both, or something else altogether. Whatever way you choose, all I ask is that you ping me to let me know if/when you think you have made an effort to address it. Cheers, Ncmvocalist (talk) 14:24, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

*@Ncmvocalist: Thank you; I will make sure to respond later today, as well as answer some of the other questions that others have asked. GAB 16:01, 2 March 2016 (UTC) Regretfully, I have withdrawn my RFA nomination for a variety of reasons. Thank you anyways for your participation. GAB 17:17, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Sorry to hear that, but no worries; I look forward to your next one presuming you give it another shot with time - I certainly think you should. :) Regards, Ncmvocalist (talk) 14:14, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

RFA

Following the advice I have received from others, I have withdrawn my nomination for RFA. I would, however, like to give a very grateful thanks to all those who kindly voiced their support -- I truly appreciate it. As for those !voting oppose, I give my assurance that I aim to improve in these areas, regardless of whether or not I consider an RFA in the far future. Thank you for your suggestions and concerns.

All the best,

GAB 17:13, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi, GAB. I'm sorry to see you withdraw your nomination but the Opposes seem to focus on the fact that your account is about a year old and you didn't have experience in certain areas of the project that they believe are essential. This is criticism that can be easily addressed, rather than criticism of ones past or of ones character. I hope you will work on building up more experience and consider a second RfA in 6-12 months. My 2 cents. Liz 17:21, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. I think a major factor was the simple truth that I have been highly focused in a few areas (SPI, AIV, UAA, CSD), and while I may have been effective in them, diversified interests seem to be the name of the game (although I have seen some exceptions to this). More content is a must, so I should resume my long-delayed GA improvement of Operation Infinite Reach and Hunger Plan to begin with. More AFDs are critical, too. Best, GAB 17:29, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

GAB. I was sorry to see that you withdrew the nomination before I had a chance to comment. I was going to land in "neutral", regretfully, but here is what I was going to say: I have often seen you around Misplaced Pages, particularly at WP:RFPP, and I always found your nominations on target and your comments helpful and insightful. I very much believe that you have the right temperament and the right skill set to be an administrator. The only thing that made me say "neutral" instead of "support" is that I want someone to demonstrate an understanding of article deletion criteria before I am willing to hand them the deletion tools. That experience is demonstrated by a CSD log, a PROD log, and a record of commenting at AfD. A lot of people encouraged you to get more edits, create a few articles, be here longer, etc.; those are not my issues. What I want is to see you establish a track record in the deletion areas. Set up Twinkle to log your CSD and PROD nominations. Then spend a little time doing new page review, where you will find some articles that qualify for speedy deletion or proposed deletion or AfD. If you don't like doing new page review (I never liked it), then search the stub categories, or the "articles lacking sources" categories, or other places where articles may lurk that shouldn't be here. Tag them as you think appropriate, and follow up to see how your nominations fare; that's how you learn. Also, start commenting at AfD - maybe seeking out nominations in areas you are interested in, using the delsort tags, for example politics or military or wherever you live. Make sure that your comments at AfD are thoughtful and display an understanding of deletion policy. (Some people try to run up their AfD count by piling-on in discussions where the outcome is already obvious. Word to the wise: don't do that.) Do this for maybe three months; by then you will have compiled enough of a record to satisfy me and most people. Good luck and I look forward to supporting your next RfA. --MelanieN (talk) 18:44, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Why did you withdraw? Were you just not interested in being admin? Hdjensofjfnen (UTC) Vote for GAB for admin! 20:37, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

@Hdjensofjfnen: I withdrew for a number of reasons:

• Some participants were beginning to swing from "neutral" or "support" to "oppose." Having seen previous RFAs play out, this is not a reassuring sign.
• There were legitimate concerns that needed to be addressed, such as participation in other content areas on Misplaced Pages.
• The overall trend of support was way down, and I didn't see an imminent wave of !voters to swing the tide.

Thank you for your support, whatever the outcome was. I will see how things look a year from now, once I've accumulated further experience. GAB 20:48, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

@GeneralizationsAreBad: That much is true, sadly. At the time of withdrawal, there were 15 more opposers than on midnight UTC on March 2. And it need not be one year — I believe that six months will do the trick. And I need to fix my signature ... lol. Hdjensofjfnen (UTC) Why did GAB withdraw? 23:32, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

In my opinion, time is not really the issue here so much as experience. Even if I waited another year and basically kept editing in the same areas, I kind of doubt the result would be too much different. GAB 23:34, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi GAB, I felt discouraged during my first run for admin, which I failed, and I felt discouraged during my second run for admin which I passed. Don't sweat it. Most of the people who voted against you probably don't know anything about the stuff you've done, but as you edit more and more, you'll no doubt encounter more people upon whom you'll have a positive impact. That's how it goes! But please continue your hard work, keep up the strong communication, edit lots more, keep up all the good stuff you do! Also, don't be confused by the temptation of "admin". It's not a promotion. It's not a badge of honor. To me, it's a position of trust. To many others, however, it's a promotion, it's a badge of honor... The reality is that you'll be so swamped with the mop, you'll never get a chance to enjoy it. True story! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:34, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi GAB, if you're interested in nominating for an admin role in the future, serving as one of the Military History Project's coordinators is a way of preparing for and demonstrating suitability for the role. The coordinators do a number of admin-like tasks, and being elected helps to demonstrate that you have the community's trust in relevant roles. The nomination process and election takes place in August and September. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 23:20, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice. I hope to get back into the swing of more content editing soon, starting with some old projects I've delayed. GAB 23:23, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Good effort

General Ization has given you a fresh pie! Pies promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a fresh pie, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Don't let it get you down. Good on you for going through the process! You'll be successful next time, if you choose to reapply.

Your cousin, General Ization 17:27, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you :) I am actually rather glad that those in opposition suggested areas of improvement, so it's genuinely constructive criticism. GAB 17:31, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

I'd like to echo General Ization's comment: you made a good shot at it and you should get it next time. May I offer a little advice about your reply to Ritchie333's additional question 10? Before you take any action (admin or not), unless it's an obviously disruptive edit, always quickly gather as much evidence as you can from the article history, user edit histories, etc. For instance, in Ritchie's hypothetical example you should check if the IP (or similar IPs) had recently made the same edits to the article (or similar articles). Consider the external links that were removed: might they be valid or are they clearly junk? Were they added by the 50k editor, and has that editor already been given advice/warnings/blocks for relevant behaviour? Or has 50k been reverting a spate of vandalism and just got a little tetchy? and so on. The action to take should be based on what you learn during this quick evidence gathering phase. Action that accurately targets the issue has the power to resolve conflicts swiftly, whereas generic action – especially from an admin, like you proposed in your answer – can make things worse. I think you know this already, but I hope it helps anyway :)  —SMALLJIM  22:34, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Yes, my question-answering skills were a bit sub-par, I concede that readily. GAB 23:11, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

A brownie for you!

<3 --allthefoxes 17:47, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

I appreciate your support in this. GAB 23:13, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

Thanks for running for adminship, and don't be discouraged. My first RfA did not succeed. Just take the opposition's commentary as constructive criticism and focus on increasing participation in the various areas mentioned. North America 18:28, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Will do, for sure. GAB 23:13, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Second time lucky -- samtar 18:37, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

@Samtar: Hopefully, I won't need to rely on sheer luck next time! :) GAB 20:07, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Sorry to see your RfA didn't go as planned. Rest assured I believe you will make for an outstanding admin in the future.

RickinBaltimore (talk) 18:39, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you -- I hope so. GAB 23:35, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Raw deal

Sorry your RfA didn't go over well. I think you should just wait a few months more before submitting another one; remember, the only big reason people opposed is due to a lack of experience. Once you're sufficiently tenured by the standards of 2016, I'm sure you'll pass easily. Kurtis 19:48, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

@Kurtis: Thanks for the kind words. It's alright; I can easily understand the concerns raised. I will be waiting at least another year, then I will decide whether or not to try again. In the meanwhile, I will definitely be working in the areas brought up. GAB 20:02, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Well whenever you decide to run again, drop me a line... I'll gladly be another co-nom. — Coffee // have a cup // beans // 21:14, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for the offer. I'll take you up on it, but can't give a precise date. GAB 21:15, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Crazy standards these days! When I was new, 2000-3000 edits, not continually causing drama, and a couple months was plenty. I'm sorry to see you didn't pass this time, I'm sure you'll take what you've learned from this one and ace the next one! SQL 22:37, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

I shall return. :) GAB 23:05, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

GAB, I was waiting for a full reply to the other questions before making up my mind which way to vote, but thanks for answering my North Korean prisons dispute question. There's never a "right answer" to these questions, it's always interesting to see how people cope with awkward situations and defuse them. Ritchie333 09:45, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

GAB, keep your chin up. Lots of people have had their turn at RfA :) I'll see you around. — Brianhe (talk) 12:42, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

• Honestly, I think you would have done just fine had you been granted the tools this time around. But I respect your decision to wait a year. Kurtis 17:25, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

• Much appreciated. GAB 19:58, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

Looks like you're getting a lot of sweets lately; better watch out for cavities! ;) Sorry about your RfA. Try again in August or so? I'll support. Hdjensofjfnen (UTC) Why did GAB withdraw? 23:34, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

August is certainly optimistic, but we'll see... my workload fluctuates considerably. GAB 23:36, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Hey man!

Thanks for the thanks for the anti-vandal on the Catholic Sex abuse page. Winterysteppe (talk) 02:08, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Winterysteppe, thanks for your thanks for my thanks... GAB 02:54, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

RfA

I didn't see your RfA until it was already closed, but I thought I would just let you have my opinion anyway. You are a good and conscientious editor, and I can believe you will make a good administrator. I also thought that many of your answers to questions at the RfA were excellent. The main reason for opposition was that it was too soon, so please do come back to RfA again when you have more experience. How much more? Impossible to give an exact figure, but I would suggest waiting at least another year. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk)

Thank you for the kind words. I don't think time matters as much as the need for more experience, but I think about a year (plus, of course, all of the necessary work in AFD, etc.) should suffice. GAB 15:48, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

I didn't comment at your RfA but I've been editing since April 2015 and I would not feel ready to be an admin. Yew have made significantly fewer edits in all contexts than me. However, my main concern was that you were nominated by, and accepted a nomination from, an openly fascist and neo-Nazi editor. That was an error of judgement. AusLondonder (talk) 09:13, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Hacking

Please let my article stay I just want it to stay someone got rid of my last article please be civil and leave my article alone IKnowAlotOfStuff1204 (talk) 21:10, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. GAB 21:15, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Please don't let my article be deleted search hacking in Misplaced Pages there is other stuff like this please let my page stay IKnowAlotOfStuff1204 (talk) 21:46, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Replying (again) on your talk page. GAB 21:55, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Please do not remove my article if you do I will be forced to edit and report your articles I found things wrong about it stuff that actually didn't happen your choice IKnowAlotOfStuff1204 (talk) 22:04, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)@IKnowAlotOfStuff1204: You'll be "forced" to do what now? -- samtar 22:07, 3 March 2016 (UTC)tps

Retaliation and threats are not appropriate for Misplaced Pages. As a non-admin (heh), I do not have the power to actually delete articles. GAB 22:08, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Oh I'm not threatening you I'm just telling you I love history I have studied hundreds of books on the Korean War and World War Two and I found a lot of things in your articles that didn't actually happen and as a member of Misplaced Pages I will be forced to report them IKnowAlotOfStuff1204 (talk) 22:12, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

I know u don't have the power to delete them but u have the power to report them take back your report or I will have to report your articles IKnowAlotOfStuff1204 (talk) 22:14, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Glad to hear I've found a fellow history bookworm, but threatening to "report" articles in retribution is not so good. Please stop, as threats such as those are not tolerated on Misplaced Pages, and may well lead to a block. GAB 22:15, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

A beer for you!

Hi Gab, Sorry to see your RFA not go so well, I was rather surprised to see you've withdrawn although it was probably a wise choice for now, Anyway don't be discouraged as not all RFAs pass first time - Keep up the great work here and next time (if you retry) you'd hopefully get it :) Anyway good luck for the future and with a doubt you'd have my 100% support again!, Thanks & Happy editing :), –Davey2010 00:21, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

@Davey2010: Thank you very much for the drink. I'll perhaps try again within a year-and-a-half or so, having learned the lessons of this one. GAB 01:01, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

You're welcome :), Thanks for the email - Without going in to too much detail it was probably for the best but hey hopefully you'll have better luck next time (Sorry nothing personal but I don't reply to anyone as privacy etc but thanks for emailing anyway!), Happy editing and enjoy the Beer! :) –Davey2010 02:06, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Gauri Gill

Hello, You nominated my page on photographer Gauri Gill for speedy deletion. I am a new editor but I did read the guidelines and believe that the post and citations are within the guidelines. Gill is an important photographer that documents and explores feminist issues in Indian society. I have sources from NYTimes and books. I am interested in adding more women into wikipedia. Please don't erase this important female artist from Misplaced Pages. https://en.wikipedia.org/Gauri_Gill

21:39, 4 March 2016 (UTC)21:39, 4 March 2016 (UTC)~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Etrogorchard (talk • contribs)

@Etrogorchard: OK, thank you for letting me know. You may want to take a look at the notability guidelines to ensure any future pages are kept. Also, please do not remove speedy deletion templates, and you might want to provide page numbers for the book references you cite in the article. Thanks, GAB 21:42, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. I looked at the notability guidelines and thought the subject fit. I felt the artist has received significant coverage from reliable sources (NY Times, books, Canadian newspapers. ) Her work has addressed, among many things, violence against women and minority groups in India - both topics important and under represented. I linked to particular events. I find the work remarkable and worthy of notice as outlined in the notability. She has received a significant award in her field and has made a widely recognized contribution in her field. I've added page numbers to the books, added a few more reliable sources and removed some. Let me know what you think of the notations. Etrogorchard (talk) 23:20, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

@Etrogorchard: I think the article looks better now, thank you for communicating and taking the time to look at the links. Your content additions elsewhere look good, too. GAB 23:28, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

A beer for you!

Hey man. I'm sorry your RFA didn't go as planned. But reading by your decision to withdraw your RFA, as well as your responses here, you're showing good judgment on your part by learning from it positively and not letting it get you down. If you remember, I ran for RFA back in September and mine sank like the Titanic because of the lack of content creation. So I completely understand how you might be feeling right now. Run again in 6 months and you'll be back! :-) ~Oshwah~ 04:29, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

@Oshwah: Thank you. Your question in particular was very polite and helpful, and it opened my eyes to another area of this site where I really need to gain experience. As for content creation, I can certainly work on that too. I wish you the best of luck as well, in case you ever consider trying again. GAB 15:48, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Of course, GAB! I thought that, instead of piling on an Oppose vote and jumping to conclusions, I'd at least ask you about your AFD participation. Who knows, maybe you had a good reason for it. I appreciate your wishes as well. If I do run again, it'll probably be in September so that one year has gone by since my first RFA. :-) ~Oshwah~ 15:56, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Britt bass

Hi GeneralizationsAreBad, I have removed the CSD template on the above article. It is a work in progress and is being monitored by a group here at Georgia State University as part of ArtAndFeminism edit-a-thon. — Ganeshk (talk) 21:20, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

@Ganeshk: Sure, no problem, sorry for the trouble. Isn't there a special article tag made for the purpose of alerting others of this? GAB 21:22, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Oh, it's already there. Thanks for letting me know! GAB 21:23, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for understanding. — Ganeshk (talk) 21:24, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Recent Reverted Edit

I recently reverted an Edit from you Here as Vandalism, which I incorrectly put your name as. DrkBlueXG (talk) 22:36, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

@DrkBlueXG: No worries. Thanks for letting me know. GAB 22:37, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Крамонд (стоянка)

It was my mistake, sorry. I agree with deleation of article "Крамонд (стоянка)" from en.wikipedia.VSL56 (talk) 21:12, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

VSL56 OK, thanks for letting me know. GAB 21:14, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Ojasweb

Just looking over the article after returning (yay me!), is it G11 material or does it just need improving? TF 16:07, 12 March 2016 (UTC)