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::I'm not sure who changed it or when (I didn't hunt around to look), but it's one thing to list the types, as this editor has requested, they're even listed on TOC for ease of use, but I have no idea why someone thought we needed a breakdown of every ''specific'' type and class, as well as exact numbers for each class that are active, under construction and planned. This type of detail is not only unnecessary for the main service page, it needlessly bloats it and fills it up with info that will be out of date more often than not. It seems many people are not already aware we have multiple pages already with very detailed tables and lists, giving out these very numbers (repeatedly) along with plenty of other details such as hull code/number, home port, etc., etc. In fact, it's already been brought up several times that we may have ''too many'' of these lists. They are repetitive and redundant and often out-of-date, as such the totals rarely match. That is, until one of only a handful of editors comes along and updates them all. And of course, they all have to be ref'd, which means the more lists we have, the more times these cites have to be copied, brought over and maintained as well. We really are getting carried away with all these lists. People seem to love making them, but not taking care of them - '']'' 13:55, 1 November 2015 (UTC) | ::I'm not sure who changed it or when (I didn't hunt around to look), but it's one thing to list the types, as this editor has requested, they're even listed on TOC for ease of use, but I have no idea why someone thought we needed a breakdown of every ''specific'' type and class, as well as exact numbers for each class that are active, under construction and planned. This type of detail is not only unnecessary for the main service page, it needlessly bloats it and fills it up with info that will be out of date more often than not. It seems many people are not already aware we have multiple pages already with very detailed tables and lists, giving out these very numbers (repeatedly) along with plenty of other details such as hull code/number, home port, etc., etc. In fact, it's already been brought up several times that we may have ''too many'' of these lists. They are repetitive and redundant and often out-of-date, as such the totals rarely match. That is, until one of only a handful of editors comes along and updates them all. And of course, they all have to be ref'd, which means the more lists we have, the more times these cites have to be copied, brought over and maintained as well. We really are getting carried away with all these lists. People seem to love making them, but not taking care of them - '']'' 13:55, 1 November 2015 (UTC) | ||
::I made some changes/additions/fixes. As it stands now, I only basically removed the "lists" of individual classes with the current numbers (along with under const'n and planned). But in place, each "type" now has a hatnote link to a list, so instead of creating more lists (and problems) readers are directed to a current list, only a click away. I can't stress this enough we have ''enough'' lists already (too many). There are 4+1 lists, listed at the top, plus another 9 lists, one for each type... I really think 14 is enough. (too many). I added some missing surface type vessels. Rounded out frigates to include LCSs, updated the naming conventions, and added, fixed-up and updated all the pics. There wasn't very many refs. Everything is basically brief notes of other sections and pages. I'd like to add some refs, and that's one of the things I'll try to work on when I'm back online. (gotta go out for awhile). Feel to add some if you like. This is all I can think of right now. (By the way... everything I done here is specifically to the "Equipment" section, "Ships" subsection" |
::I made some changes/additions/fixes. As it stands now, I only basically removed the "lists" of individual classes with the current numbers (along with under const'n and planned). But in place, each "type" now has a hatnote link to a list, so instead of creating more lists (and problems) readers are directed to a current list, only a click away. I can't stress this enough we have ''enough'' lists already (too many). There are 4+1 lists, listed at the top, plus another 9 lists, one for each type... I really think 14 is enough. (too many). I added some missing surface type vessels. Rounded out frigates to include LCSs, updated the naming conventions, and added, fixed-up and updated all the pics. There wasn't very many refs. Everything is basically brief notes of other sections and pages. I'd like to add some refs, and that's one of the things I'll try to work on when I'm back online. (gotta go out for awhile). Feel free to add some if you like. This is all I can think of right now. (By the way... everything I done here is specifically to the "Equipment" section, "Ships" subsection", not anywhere else.) Cheers - '']'' 18:05, 1 November 2015 (UTC) | ||
:::Thank you, this is a much better way of organizing things. ] (]) 02:25, 7 January 2016 (UTC) | :::Thank you, this is a much better way of organizing things. ] (]) 02:25, 7 January 2016 (UTC) |
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Allegiance
The allegiance of the USN is to the USA, not to the constitution of the USA.Royalcourtier (talk) 08:41, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
@Royalcourtier: - are you talking about this;
Have you read either of them? They both begin with: "I, (state name), do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States...
So, I'm not really sure what you're talking about. Would you care to clarify? - WOLFchild 12:56, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
Equipment
Since the only thing under equipment is ships, can we remove the heading for equipment and promote everything under it up a level so under "surface vessels" cruisers, destroyers, frigates and littoral combat ships become sub-sub headings that are viable in the Contents box for people to quickly find? Name Omitted (talk) 14:56, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- It's possible someone changed this in response to your comment, but the equipment heading also includes aircraft and submarines (which are vessels, but not surface vessels). Also, a few of the items under "weapons" are sometimes deployed on land. I'm not sure whether navy personnel operate terrestrial navy weapons, but it seems like navy equipment would include a wider range of items than just ships, especially considering that that navy has, at times, maintained coastal fortresses.Pwoodfor (talk) 13:20, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
- I'm not sure who changed it or when (I didn't hunt around to look), but it's one thing to list the types, as this editor has requested, they're even listed on TOC for ease of use, but I have no idea why someone thought we needed a breakdown of every specific type and class, as well as exact numbers for each class that are active, under construction and planned. This type of detail is not only unnecessary for the main service page, it needlessly bloats it and fills it up with info that will be out of date more often than not. It seems many people are not already aware we have multiple pages already with very detailed tables and lists, giving out these very numbers (repeatedly) along with plenty of other details such as hull code/number, home port, etc., etc. In fact, it's already been brought up several times that we may have too many of these lists. They are repetitive and redundant and often out-of-date, as such the totals rarely match. That is, until one of only a handful of editors comes along and updates them all. And of course, they all have to be ref'd, which means the more lists we have, the more times these cites have to be copied, brought over and maintained as well. We really are getting carried away with all these lists. People seem to love making them, but not taking care of them - WOLFchild 13:55, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
- I made some changes/additions/fixes. As it stands now, I only basically removed the "lists" of individual classes with the current numbers (along with under const'n and planned). But in place, each "type" now has a hatnote link to a list, so instead of creating more lists (and problems) readers are directed to a current list, only a click away. I can't stress this enough we have enough lists already (too many). There are 4+1 lists, listed at the top, plus another 9 lists, one for each type... I really think 14 is enough. (too many). I added some missing surface type vessels. Rounded out frigates to include LCSs, updated the naming conventions, and added, fixed-up and updated all the pics. There wasn't very many refs. Everything is basically brief notes of other sections and pages. I'd like to add some refs, and that's one of the things I'll try to work on when I'm back online. (gotta go out for awhile). Feel free to add some if you like. This is all I can think of right now. (By the way... everything I done here is specifically to the "Equipment" section, "Ships" subsection", not anywhere else.) Cheers - WOLFchild 18:05, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you, this is a much better way of organizing things. Name Omitted (talk) 02:25, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
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