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Jose Fernandez more important than Arnold Palmer?

Absolute JOKE Jose Fernandez is on the front page and Arnold Palmer is not. Fernandez' death was tragic, but how many people knew about him outside of Miami other than hard-core MLB fans (which I am)? Say the name Arnold Palmer, and the vast majority of Americans and Canadians, not to mention many around the world, would instantly recognize what sport he played and what he accomplished, even though the last major he played was in 1994, and his last PGA Tour victory was in 1973 (two years before Tiger Woods was born). I would have no problem whatosever with Fernandez on the front page of the Spanish-language Misplaced Pages. But he shouldn't trump Arnie here. DavidSteinle (talk) 18:02, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

Regarding the first 2, I suspect a recency bias at work. That is, AP's mastery of the game was many years ago, so has been forgotten, while JF's major accomplishments are fresh in out minds. StuRat (talk) 18:09, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

@DavidSteinle: It's not an importance issue. Per an RFC earlier this year, any person who dies and has an article is deemed notable enough to be posted to recent deaths. However, in the case of Arnold Palmer, the article is not up to par (forgive the pun) and has been the only reason for opposition at ITN/C. If Palmer's article is improved (mainly referencing issues) within a week of his death, then it will be posted under the recent deaths section. @StuRat: That might be part of the issue, but more than likely it's because Palmer's article is older and a bigger target for vandalism than Fernández's. Palmer's article was created on September 7, 2002, whereas Fernández's was created from a redirect on March 9, 2013. ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 18:23, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

Arnold Palmer hasn't been posted to the main page because his article is in atrocious condition. That's all.--WaltCip (talk) 18:29, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

Who is Arnold Palmer? Jackiespeel (talk) 09:15, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

He has been added to recent deaths now. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:38, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

Pyst

Someone obviously thinks this is a neat pun (though I believe "pissed" in that sense is purely an Americanism), but I don't think this really merits a mention. The Pyst article is not a great one, and relates to a 10-year-old video game. The Game Revolution page doesn't even mention Pyst, and the Pyst page only mentions it in passing. One review. Ten years ago. And does "pissed" on the front page really communicate the professional impression that Misplaced Pages is striving for? 132.244.72.6 (talk) 10:48, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

Couldn't agree more. Thought I was somehow on Uncyclopedia for a minute. --Flobberz (talk) 15:16, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

WP:ERRORS is the best venue for this. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:46, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

However, the people involved in the selection of items for the main page and the language used there will tell you that Misplaced Pages is uncensored and that you should have been participating in the process sooner. Thou shalt not criticize the maintainers of the main page.--Jim in Georgia Contribs Talk 18:50, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

It's a bit of a push to suggest that the DYK project comprises "maintainers of the main page"... The Rambling Man (talk) 18:51, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

I thought it was a bit Uncyclopedic too, but the anon spoils his/her argument by making totally irrelevant points. Game is 10 years old- irrelevant. DYK is for new articles, not new stories, it is not In the News. Review is 10 years old- irrelevant. If notable then, is notable now. Not mentioned in Game Revolution- irrelevant. Review could be more notable for this article than that one. Ribbet32 (talk) 19:20, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

Indeed, the main problem was the use of the word "pissed" in Misplaced Pages's voice (as opposed to a quotation), which was patently unacceptable and downright embarrassing.

Astonishingly, the nomination's original hook avoided this issue, despite containing similar wordplay (and required only minor tweaking). I'm baffled as to why it was replaced.

I've switched to that hook, per the promoter's notation that it would be "the fall-back option" "if the no-fun police knocking". (Yeah, let's throw in an insult for good measure.) —David Levy 19:35, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

I've made a note of this at the DYK project. Nothing will come of it but it's important to record these failings, particularly if they fall outside the WP:ERRORS zone. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:19, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages is quickly skydiving towards lack of credibility with postings such as these. 107.77.216.65 (talk) 22:58, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

Not really, we could post dozens of these and we'd still be lightyears ahead of Google, Twitter, Yahoo and Facebook. No need to worry. --BallroomBlitzkriegBebop (talk) 01:29, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

None of the above pretend to be encyclopaedias. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:54, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

A 'what is becoming of the Misplaced Pages Main Page discussion' was about due :)

This probably applies to most encyclopedias. Jackiespeel (talk) 09:59, 2 October 2016 (UTC)

Current DYK image's license problem

Currently, the DYK portion of the main page is using File:Pygmy-goosefoot-1200.jpg. Despite passing through DYK review and User:Cwmhiraeth claiming "The image is appropriately licensed" during the review, the source website makes no mentioning that the image is licensed under CC-BY-4.0. We should pull the image off the main page as an interim measure until its copyright status is cleared up. (And I can't tag the file on Commons because it's currently protected). OhanaUnited 21:40, 2 October 2016 (UTC)