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| Hi RCS. Please note that I've archived or removed your recent ]. That page is only for very specific cases, as described by the ]. Your alert would be better placed on ] (]), where it will usually be processed within minutes. Many alerts that are incorrectly placed on ] are never dealt with, simply because they become old before an administrator gets to them. Thanks for your efforts. :) <!-- --> | |||
| Feel free to ask me any further questions. ] 19:07, 25 April 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Wenger == | |||
| I'm not really sure who started it, though it cropped up when Wenger first joined Arsenal; he was one of the first foreign managers in the Premiership, an unknown with a style and manner totally unlike most other club managers at the time, and I think intolerance and xenophobia got the better of some "fans". Additionally, a Tottenham-supporting radio DJ made (or hinted) at the allegation on his show, I recall (I think he was fired for it). I don't think has anything to do with youth players - the same allegations have never been made at ] or ], have they? ] 10:04, 13 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| I think the story is totally down to Spurs fans, they constantly vandalise arsenal related sites with rumours about Sol Campbell and David Dein. --] 10:55, 29 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == RE:Thomas Stewart == | |||
| Thank you for discovering another Thomas Stewart. It is standard to create X (disambiguation) page when there is more than one subject of an article title but one is already taking the spot, esp. when only this one has been done and esp. when there has been no discussion. In this case, the senior representative of the Scottish church and senior member of a royal family is clearly more important than a low-profile modern entertainer. Additionally, moving Thomas Stewart to Thomas Stewart (bishop) broke lots of links. I moved the material back and move the dab page to ]. I think this is the most reasonable course. Regards. '''] ('']'')''' 21:53, 13 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Otakar Kraus == | |||
| I'll be happy to do a Kraus article, but probably not before next week. I saw him at least once on stage (as Klingsor), and coincidentally heard a bit of his Iago from Covent Garden on the radio a week ago. He created some important roles, too. Willard White should certainly have an article, though I've never been a great lover of his voice. Did you know that he was one of the students in the Callas masterclasses at the Juilliard? Best. --] 11:01, 17 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Well, it took me a bit longer than a week, or rather I only got round to doing something about it today. Perhaps you'd like to have a look at ]. I'll add a discography (including his Iago on the recent ROH issue) tmorrow. And someone else has recreated ]. No, I never saw Keleman in ], not one of my favourite operas... --] 23:43, 12 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==Ivan Petrov== | |||
| Hello Zinnober, i don't quite understand . Theer is nothing strange in providing the link to the german article (incidentally written by me), because, as the latest example ] tends to prove, english speaking wikipedians seem to deliberately ignore other languages (), and alos because Petrov is indeed little known and bears a very common name, like John Smith, if it were. He was a very fine singer though, as the external link on ] will show. You should do something about Alain Lombard (], ] as well, he was a very famous French opera conductor and director in the 1970s, before sliding slowly down until being completely forgotten today. Cheers, ] 18:36, 4 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Zinnober? Who? A mistake? At any rate the Opera Project page really isn't the place for leaving unexplained, cryptic links to foreign Wikipedias. Please respect the way the main page is formatted. If you want to say something to members of the project then use the Talk page. In any case if a singer is little known, except to you, then the thing to do is to start of the article yourself. The point of the 'Can you help' section is to suggest names that other people are likely to be interested in. It's not for some form of personal POV promotion. Regarding your point about English-speaking Wikipedians, has it occurred to you that a lot of them can't speak foreign languages? - ] 19:16, 4 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::''Klein Zaches, genannt''' (called) '''Zinnober'' (ETA Hoffman). Only a private joke, sorry. ] 19:47, 4 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::Thanks for the reference. I missed it - undoubtedly because of the space in the name. I am now trying to get a translation. Let me know if you see one somewhere. Why Cinnabar? Strange. - ] 10:07, 5 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::About the other point : neither do i speak japanese or finnish, but whenever i write an article, i provide the links - if available - to those Wikis. It's not a matter of knowledge, it is - i am afraid - a matter of will. ] 19:49, 4 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::It's laborious to search 'manually' for articles in other languages. People use interwiki bots for this. - ] 20:03, 4 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::::I’m the user who began the ] article, and I was pleased when I saw that you had added links to the French, German, Italian, and Japanese articles on Bastianini. I thought I was seeing the collaborative spirit in action. And I learned a new and wonderful thing about Misplaced Pages. | |||
| ::::But now I have discovered your remarks about my contribution. | |||
| ::::Having been with Misplaced Pages for not quite two months now, I still consider myself a novice with much to learn. When I began the Bastianini article, I’d been here for two weeks. I assure you that I did not “deliberately ignore other languages.” That comment, along with your later one {“ It's not a matter of knowledge, it is - i am afraid - a matter of will.”}, suggests that you have a tendency to assume the worst of people (or at least of English-speaking Wikipedians). What I had thought was the contribution of a fellow-user happily improving an article, I now understand to have been a grudging addition made in a spirit of resentfulness. | |||
| ::::I’m glad that you added those links, but I’m sorry that I made it necessary for you to go to the trouble of adding them. Sincerely, ] 15:38, 16 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==Cryptic notes on Opera Project page== | |||
| I see you are leaving cryptic notes on the ] page linking to foreign language wikis. As I have explained before I don't think this is helpful. Potential members may be put off by instructions on the main page that they don't understand. If you want to address members of the project the place to do it is in the Talk page. Best regards. - ] 23:47, 21 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Sorry Kleinzach i didn't mean to upset you, but since the late Lully is a french composer, i thought linking to the slightly more substantial french wiki wouldn't be a bad help for a start - people sometimes don't even think of looking somewhere else. That's why, in itself, the link was not cryptic, but very clear. Then, i understand very well that you assume that people don't necessary speak foreign languages and that they shouldn't be bothered with them. This is an opinion i cant' share (i am a professional translator in real life, from French into German and vice-versa) but that i can respect. Anyway, best wishes ! ] 06:58, 22 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::It is very simple. If you want to express your own personal opinions, the Talk pages are there for that purpose. The main project page represents the project as a whole. Your personal crusade to get people to read foreign languages is not relevant here. As you will know, I have myself been encouraging people to refer to the German, French etc. wikis, but this must be done in a positive way. Misplaced Pages works through individual contributions, not by ordering and cajoling other people to work on articles that you happen to have a personal interest in. Something to think about? Best regards. - ] 07:48, 22 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::I don't expect you to believe me, but i certainly place the interest of the opera as a whole over my own preferences. I wouldn't have written articles about singers i don't really care of (ex : ]) if this wasn't the case. Using terms as "crusade" etc. is very offending. Ever heard of projection ? Cheers, ] 07:52, 22 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::And really, i personally a not really fond of Lully. So long. | |||
| ::::Hmm. What is the point of adding relatively obscure artists to the 'Can you help?' section when the only person who is going (or not going) to contribute articles about them is you? The whole point of the section is to list singers that people will ''want'' to write about. - ] 08:02, 22 August 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==Obnoxious? Sarcasm?== | |||
| I see you have made an entry to the project page with the following edit summary: | |||
| <i><blockquote>adding anothe of these obnoxious "german singers of the third quarter of the 20th century")</blockquote></i> | |||
| Perhaps you can tell me what this means? Is it aimed at me? Is it intended to be sarcastic? | |||
| ] 17:24, 23 August 2006 (UTC) | |||