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| Nasa has two pages on their publicly accessible document website that show that metals infused with Deuterium (deuterated metals) were bombarded, in separate experiments, with either moderate energy photons (gamma) , or X rays. In both cases the metals created isotopes that were not there before, neutrons were detected, beta was detected, for over 12 months after the experiment ended. So NASA filed a 120 page international patent. The papers/patent talk about the need for beta batteries for deep space, beyond the suns ability to grant useful power from solar panels, and heat batteries, perhaps no longer dependent on the risks of launching Uranium or Plutonium into space and even earth orbit. The papers talk about creating medical isotopes without the need for a traditional reactor, some medical isotopes have half lives of less than a day. They could be made in small specialty LENR reactors, using no Uranium, in a process that doesn't produce Plutonium as a by product as today's reactors do. Navy/NASA also have patents on using the process to start/stop the reaction reliably. Decades of U.S. Navy SPAWAR labs publications on the reality of this nuclear reaction have been mostly edited out of Misplaced Pages, for many years. Most of NASA's work is also missing from the cold fusion, Stanley Pons, and Martin Fleishmann pages. I will send you links to the new research and patent by NASA if you want it. It's unclassified and fit for the public. Lol, I'm so weary of the Wiki censorship of this topic that I'm not willing to take the time to post the links. Imagine how Pons and Fleischmann felt. Your P&F and "cold fusion" sites are being censored by fools or coal, gas, oil, and nuclear trolls, and maybe by some hot fusion scientists still fighting for government handouts for hot fusion that is eternally 20 years and 50 billion dollars away from reality. The ITER reactor is also a financial fib, the managers having been recently caught telling the public that it would put out many multiples of the input energy, when in fact it will only put out 1.6 times the input,, and that's if they can make every aspect of the behemoth work perfectly. You'll be able to verify all this easily. Look to Navy and NASA links after you search for "nuclear effects in deuterated metals on Google". After you have one in your town, maybe you'll stop the fossil troll editing. No radioactive fuel is used in the process, and any unwanted isotopes could be fed back into another LENR reactor to change them into non radioactive metals. They might just be able to mine minerals in space with minimal processing, and create the metals they need for the mission. The research shows that now several metals will work in the reaction if deuterated, even some plastics. I forgot to speak of ion engine power for deep space, but there it is. | Nasa has two pages on their publicly accessible document website that show that metals infused with Deuterium (deuterated metals) were bombarded, in separate experiments, with either moderate energy photons (gamma) , or X rays. In both cases the metals created isotopes that were not there before, neutrons were detected, beta was detected, for over 12 months after the experiment ended. So NASA filed a 120 page international patent. The papers/patent talk about the need for beta batteries for deep space, beyond the suns ability to grant useful power from solar panels, and heat batteries, perhaps no longer dependent on the risks of launching Uranium or Plutonium into space and even earth orbit. The papers talk about creating medical isotopes without the need for a traditional reactor, some medical isotopes have half lives of less than a day. They could be made in small specialty LENR reactors, using no Uranium, in a process that doesn't produce Plutonium as a by product as today's reactors do. Navy/NASA also have patents on using the process to start/stop the reaction reliably. Decades of U.S. Navy SPAWAR labs publications on the reality of this nuclear reaction have been mostly edited out of Misplaced Pages, for many years. Most of NASA's work is also missing from the cold fusion, Stanley Pons, and Martin Fleishmann pages. I will send you links to the new research and patent by NASA if you want it. It's unclassified and fit for the public. Lol, I'm so weary of the Wiki censorship of this topic that I'm not willing to take the time to post the links. Imagine how Pons and Fleischmann felt. Your P&F and "cold fusion" sites are being censored by fools or coal, gas, oil, and nuclear trolls, and maybe by some hot fusion scientists still fighting for government handouts for hot fusion that is eternally 20 years and 50 billion dollars away from reality. The ITER reactor is also a financial fib, the managers having been recently caught telling the public that it would put out many multiples of the input energy, when in fact it will only put out 1.6 times the input,, and that's if they can make every aspect of the behemoth work perfectly. You'll be able to verify all this easily. Look to Navy and NASA links after you search for "nuclear effects in deuterated metals on Google". After you have one in your town, maybe you'll stop the fossil troll editing. No radioactive fuel is used in the process, and any unwanted isotopes could be fed back into another LENR reactor to change them into non radioactive metals. They might just be able to mine minerals in space with minimal processing, and create the metals they need for the mission. The research shows that now several metals will work in the reaction if deuterated, even some plastics. I forgot to speak of ion engine power for deep space, but there it is. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 10:45, 13 December 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | ||
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TL;DR: Admin appears unwilling/unable to hold self to standards set for others. Seeking peer(s) of comparable rank and status to, please, attempt to mentor him regarding such.
Jimbo, awhile back while looking into the desysopping of Dangerous Panda I noticed you'd weighed in before things had been allowed to pile up to folks making broad at-wit's-end pleas for relief to ArbCom. I'm hoping you'll find some way to express opinion and offer mentorship in circumstances I'll present surrounding Drmies as well. I'd like to see him encouraged to voluntarily rein himself in – to preclude problematic attitudes and behaviors escalating to a level of community disruption requiring formal intervention.
Yesterday I posted the following to a talkpage thread (context addresses the reversion en masse of 12 edits by ~6 editors going back 29 days):
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11 minutes later Drmies removed the passage (while leaving preceding comments) and left in its place:
User:A Fellow Editor, thank you for your comments. Please don't make anymore on this talk page, unless it is to summon me to a dramah board. Drmies (talk) 15:29, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
... with an edit summary of:
(→Subsection break to ease thread navigation: rm text from subsection per WP:YAWN while also invoking WP:OWNTALK. note that rollback was not used, and an edit summary (this one, you are reading it) was left. "I made the reader say BANANA") diff
I'm hoping that other editors of comparable rank and social status might find a way to convey to Drmies as to how his recent conduct—relating to thewolfchild as well as to myself and to general concerns of behavior befitting a WP admin—might be seen as problematic and unbecoming to his position so as to encourage better care and consideration in the future.
Thanks for your time and attention, (and thanks for your efforts in offering the world an amazing public resource) ––A Fellow Editor– 10:54, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
- Perhaps also Doug Weller and some of his fellow Eguor admins might be willing to pull Drmies aside and offer some guidance? Or maybe some of the current ArbCom candidates—on this the last day of elections—might wish to take this as an opportunity to show the community their position on holding themselves and others with elevated privileges to offering at least the same standards of best practice as to which the community-at-large is held? While perhaps also addressing the expectation that those with elevated powers and responsibilities exemplify best practices themselves? ––A Fellow Editor– 11:33, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
Drmies has blundered into my userspace—after requesting I avoid his—to edit in my personal archive User:A Fellow Editor/Archive/Drmies talk, December 2017.
One might be inclined at this point to take this as a further demonstration of the present scope of his tact and prowess. ––A Fellow Editor– 12:19, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
- The parent controversy seems more entertaining. Apparently The Evergreen State College has some very peculiar liberal traditions, like encouraging all the minority students and professors to skip class one day in order to make them more academically equal. Then someone hit on the notion of "encouraging" the white students and professors to skip out instead... much hilarity ensued. On Misplaced Pages, this manifests in muted form as edit warring. It looks like DrMies was involved in trying to suppress the very best of this comedy gold here - if this is supposed to be reason why citing primary sources is "problematic", it is also a great example of why primary sources are so valuable. Watch this weirdness at , though to be sure, this really isn't primary enough, too many cuts.
- So far my best explanation is North Koreans already released the brain-destroying virus, presumably after sticking a special bonus into their own citizens' mandated vaccination schedule. But hey, maybe I'm wrong ... we'll see. Wnt (talk) 18:53, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
- @A Fellow Editor: I've been an admin for a long time and I've seen a lot of people posting verbose complaints about admins who criticised them using unkind terms. They almost invariably result in increased scrutiny of the complainant, which I've never seen anyone welcome and which rarely has a happy ending. I strongly suggest you find something else to do. Misplaced Pages has 5.5 million articles and counting and just off the top of my head I can think of dozens more it's lacking. I mean this as a kindness: I guarantee you that you will be a much happier Wikipedian if you find some neglected articles to work on and let the drama pass you by. I won't comment further on this thread so please don't ping me. Unless you're looking for article suggestions, in which case ping away. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 08:57, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
- As a decently long-standing admin, I echo HJ Mitchell's sentiments above. ceranthor 17:03, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
- Speaking as just some guy, Category:WikiProject prospectuses contains at least a few pages listing topics covered in specialist reference sources. Many of them still don't exist here yet, and there are numerous other potential articles which could be based on encyclopedia-type works a available at Internet Archive and elsewhere. Believe me when I say that there are many, many articles, some rather important, which don't exist here yet or are in a rather poor state. John Carter (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:07, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
- As a decently long-standing admin, I echo HJ Mitchell's sentiments above. ceranthor 17:03, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
Sept 2017, NASA PUBLISHES 2 PAPERS ON AND FILES 120 PAGE INTERNATIONAL PATENT ON LENR / "COLD FUSION"
Nasa has two pages on their publicly accessible document website that show that metals infused with Deuterium (deuterated metals) were bombarded, in separate experiments, with either moderate energy photons (gamma) , or X rays. In both cases the metals created isotopes that were not there before, neutrons were detected, beta was detected, for over 12 months after the experiment ended. So NASA filed a 120 page international patent. The papers/patent talk about the need for beta batteries for deep space, beyond the suns ability to grant useful power from solar panels, and heat batteries, perhaps no longer dependent on the risks of launching Uranium or Plutonium into space and even earth orbit. The papers talk about creating medical isotopes without the need for a traditional reactor, some medical isotopes have half lives of less than a day. They could be made in small specialty LENR reactors, using no Uranium, in a process that doesn't produce Plutonium as a by product as today's reactors do. Navy/NASA also have patents on using the process to start/stop the reaction reliably. Decades of U.S. Navy SPAWAR labs publications on the reality of this nuclear reaction have been mostly edited out of Misplaced Pages, for many years. Most of NASA's work is also missing from the cold fusion, Stanley Pons, and Martin Fleishmann pages. I will send you links to the new research and patent by NASA if you want it. It's unclassified and fit for the public. Lol, I'm so weary of the Wiki censorship of this topic that I'm not willing to take the time to post the links. Imagine how Pons and Fleischmann felt. Your P&F and "cold fusion" sites are being censored by fools or coal, gas, oil, and nuclear trolls, and maybe by some hot fusion scientists still fighting for government handouts for hot fusion that is eternally 20 years and 50 billion dollars away from reality. The ITER reactor is also a financial fib, the managers having been recently caught telling the public that it would put out many multiples of the input energy, when in fact it will only put out 1.6 times the input,, and that's if they can make every aspect of the behemoth work perfectly. You'll be able to verify all this easily. Look to Navy and NASA links after you search for "nuclear effects in deuterated metals on Google". After you have one in your town, maybe you'll stop the fossil troll editing. No radioactive fuel is used in the process, and any unwanted isotopes could be fed back into another LENR reactor to change them into non radioactive metals. They might just be able to mine minerals in space with minimal processing, and create the metals they need for the mission. The research shows that now several metals will work in the reaction if deuterated, even some plastics. I forgot to speak of ion engine power for deep space, but there it is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.66.237.229 (talk) 10:45, 13 December 2017 (UTC)