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I don't mean to be disrespectful, but is there a chance that this is a bit of a coincidence? There must be many people who are involved in New Hampshire politics. Just a thought. ''']_]]''' 04:49, 16 October 2006 (UTC) | I don't mean to be disrespectful, but is there a chance that this is a bit of a coincidence? There must be many people who are involved in New Hampshire politics. Just a thought. ''']_]]''' 04:49, 16 October 2006 (UTC) | ||
:As Choess said above, was an indefinite block really necessary? People Powered has a fairly wide (though that obviously doesn't include the article(s) that Centrx deleted, above) and seems to be avoiding conflicts very effectively. Even if we were to assume that this user is Karmafist's sock, they seem to be avoiding the kinds of trouble that resulted in the latter's block - I believe the spirit of ] is in avoiding continued damage to Misplaced Pages, rather than keeping individuals away indefinitely. Was there any harm being done to necessitate a block, here? ]<font color="green">]</font>] (<span style="font-size: smaller;"><sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub></span>) 05:04, 16 October 2006 (UTC) |
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User talk:Freakofnurture/header
Per freakofnurture's talk page rules, this info must be left here even by those that want to hide the truth
crucial information being kept from AFD. See removal here
This information of abuse has been reported on the notice boards and have been removed and the accounts banned. It is vital because it reports abuse.
Below are links to edits by multiple users. Because these users are administrators they will likely use the article delete power to hide them. All edits only going back the last 30 days or so.
MONGO blanks sections of talk pages that were not vandalism or personal attacks. WP:VAND considers this action vandalism.:
Makes threats of premeditated speedy deletion of Encyclopedia Dramatica article in edit summaries:
Modifies another user's talk page comment that was not a personal attack or vandalism:
Protected an article about twelve hours after two edits that he disagreed with were reverted:
Edited an article after protecting it removing many cited sources (see his words on why ) :
Admits he was fine with the older screenshot on Encyclopedia Dramatica:
User Kizzle uploads an image that is an attack image and unfree to MONGO's user talk page. Even fair use are not allowed there. MONGO, Tony Sidaway, and all the other admins leave it and do nothing, despite MONGO's previous quick deletion of images and quickness to protect articles:
User NoSeptember protects the image after someone tried to replace it with an image that wasn't illegal and restores the illegal image:
MONGO further endorses the illegal image:
MONGO removes any attempts of users he bans from communicating with him:
MONGO calls encyclopedia dramatica retarded as well as promising to remove protection and put the external link back (which he later refused to do at ):
MONGO refuses to put link back or unprotect the article Encyclopedia Dramatica:
MONGO engaging in personal attacks when giving block reasons:
TonySidaway engaging in personal attacks when giving block reasons:
http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/User:MONGO1 has made edits directly coinciding with MONGO on wikipedia first learning that he had an article on that site. The edits included vandalism and personal attacks:
Encyclopedia Dramatica Checkuser found the account came from 24.252.28.188 = ip24-252-28-188.om.om.cox.net
Proof that it is MONGO: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_comment/MONGO&diff=prev&oldid=60621470
Evidence of MONGO hiding edits from his IP on wikipedia:
Directly after the MONGO1 account was banned a new account arose, using the name "Ed Poor", potentialy impersonation. contributions that did more vandalism and personal attacks. This one used AOL IPs 205.188.116.196, 205.188.117.70, 205.188.117.74.
Ed Poor states it was not him.
Other IPs with associated vandalism afterward:
- 203.109.225.187 resolves to 203-109-225-187.bliink.ihug.co.nz
- 128.2.141.33 resolves to ERR.CYLAB.CMU.EDU
MONGO and Tony Sidaway removed the results -- In general psychology (from wikipedia's articles), if someone was innocent they would want it to stand as evidence whereas a guilty person would want to hide it: (example) all mention of it and banned the account for eternity that said it. MONGO protects the talk page where it was first mentioned. Tony Sidaway also hides the IP results
Another admin wishes to investigate this and MONGO reverts that admin twice:
MONGO hides the cox.net IP and claims it was only AOL. Is it because the cox.net IP is his?:
MONGO deletes the user and user talk page of someone mentioning this and MONGO makes personal attacks in the summary of why he deleted them:
MONGO tells someone to post to Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents, however he has reverted complaints about him there (see above):
MONGO says, "well the sight is supportive of calling African-Americans (and blcaks in general) by the "N" word...so if there was an article that used that word on the mainpage, that would not be worth linking to either.":
When asked if MONGO would spend the "spend the same amount of time and energy on that article" (being GNAA article), MONGO said:
MONGO deletes an image instead of reverted a changed version of it:
MONGO vandalizes the article again by removing the external link to the site:
MONGO removes links that quote his wiki edits in talk pages:
Other actions by MONGO:
- "Ah, I am not aware of them or their activities. I have worked very hard in the past to protect many wikipedians from off-wiki harassment by those that have posted at wikipediareview and hivemind. I can't be at all places at once, and I was alerted by someone about this stuff.--MONGO 08:34, 18 July 2006 (UTC)" Guess what? He banned the person who helped him out.
- "What are you accusing me of? I see that you have had an account with us for a year and have less than 150 edits total and you want me to take your commentary seriously? I was alerted to this situation...I don't have the time to be everywhere, buddy. How about you go write one long well referenced article and stop your trolling.--MONGO 09:15, 18 July 2006 (UTC) "
- After being asked why he targets the Encyclopedia Dramatica article and not GNAA, MONGO blanks the talk page, moving discussions from minutes ago into an archive so the entire talk page is blank.
- Mongo announces plans to destroy the article Encyclopedia Dramatica so it passes AFD.
- Then states that he continues this plan
Tony Sidaway examples of personal attacks:
- "I have blocked this editor becausae he's stupid"
- "he's an obvious nutter ... Let's just tell him to fuck off."
- "He's a troll. Our only appropriate words to him are "fuck off."
- "I sincerely suggest that "fuck off" is almost too kind for this pernicious and stupid troll."
Tony Sidaway also reverted someone's own messages in their talk page and protected it, claiming "they attempted to use their talk page."
Note troll is used as a personal attack. See WP:NPA. MONGO also uses the word retarded both for a personal attack on a user (first one in list below as well as for a website)
MONGO gives personal attacks in edits:
MONGO gives personal attacks in edit summaries:
Cedartooth 10:02, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
ED on GNAA
Your RV of the removal of the link was undone by A Man In Black with the comment "lets not link to humor sites". As there's no policy or legitimate reason per Misplaced Pages rules to not link to that site, I readded the link. It'd been on the GNAA article for literal ages. rootology (T) 22:59, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Your comments on Thatcher131's RfA
Freak, I'd encourage you to revist the RfA due to additional information regarding the incident surrounding Thatcher131's comment being posted. The comment is fairly out of context, and misses a great deal of the underlying history in the dispute. Thatcher131 was acting in accordance with an ArbCom decision. In fact, User:SPUI has been banned three times due to violation of his probation from the related RfAr. I'm not asking you to change your vote. I am asking you to reconsider your position in light of additional evidence and to do what you think is right, given that new information. All the best, --Durin 04:40, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
- I am intimately familiar with the underlying history, thanks. —freak(talk) 06:45, Sep. 15, 2006 (UTC)
Motorhead
I noticed that you have re-reverted my revertion of the move of Motorhead. At least you managed to get it right. :-) However you should take the time to read the relevant talk page. If you had done that you would have realized that there is actually a dissens on whether to move or not. A request has not been posted on Misplaced Pages:Requested moves, hence there should have been no move until it's been decided there. Please revert and put it up for a move if you feel strongly for this. Anyway, I can't understand how there can be dab between Motorhead and Mötorhead. Is this some sort of US vs. Europe, or English vs. non-English issue I'm not aware of? Or is it just down to "my rock band is more important than your stupid video game"? --Frödet 20:15, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
- Don't put words in my mouth. I don't particularly care for the rock band, but I'd never heard of the video game, so I can hardly call it stupid. The band is more widely known. In the absence of the ideosyncratic heavy metal umlaut, the articles would both have parenthetical disambiguation: they would be titled "Motorhead (video game)" and "Motorhead (band)". A similar, but hardly identical case involves KoЯn. —freak(talk) 20:55, Sep. 27, 2006 (UTC)
- Sorry, I did not intend offence. The questions were not directed at you in particular. That said, a consensus about the move was never reached, hence there shouldn't have been a move. There is no idiosyncrasy with umlauts — I use æøåÆØÅöüèéô all the time and most people I know do the same. Acutally, most South Americans and Europeans, with the possible excpetion of Brits, also use them, but even the Brits don't consider them idiosyncrasies.
Calling them as such is either down to arrogance or ignorance.Your example, is valid enough with the exception that there is only one Motorhead and one Mötorhead. Other, more similar examples include Ardal vs. Årdal or Flam vs. Flåm or even Muli vs. Múli. --Frödet 10:01, 28 September 2006 (UTC)- The band's choice to use an umlaut for decorative rather than phonetic purposes is, in fact, an ideosyncracy. Most titles containing diacritical marks are accompanied by a redirect from the keyboard-compatible, plain-letter form. This particular case is a compromise, due to the assertion that the two unrelated topics are of (roughly) equal importance. You might take this clarification into account and re-read my previous reply. —freak(talk) 16:16, Sep. 28, 2006 (UTC)
- Whether the naming is ideosyncratic or not is irrelevant. This is en encyclopedia, and the origin of words or topics should not be a subject when deciding disambiguity. Your point about equal importance is taken and I will ponder on that for a while. It still does not change the fact that the page was moved without consent, and without a democratic decission at Requested moves. --Frödet 16:44, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
- The band's choice to use an umlaut for decorative rather than phonetic purposes is, in fact, an ideosyncracy. Most titles containing diacritical marks are accompanied by a redirect from the keyboard-compatible, plain-letter form. This particular case is a compromise, due to the assertion that the two unrelated topics are of (roughly) equal importance. You might take this clarification into account and re-read my previous reply. —freak(talk) 16:16, Sep. 28, 2006 (UTC)
- Sorry, I did not intend offence. The questions were not directed at you in particular. That said, a consensus about the move was never reached, hence there shouldn't have been a move. There is no idiosyncrasy with umlauts — I use æøåÆØÅöüèéô all the time and most people I know do the same. Acutally, most South Americans and Europeans, with the possible excpetion of Brits, also use them, but even the Brits don't consider them idiosyncrasies.
Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Dictionary of the Catholic Resistance
I noticed that you had previously worked on the project page above. I also noted that the page itself has no members, and is potentially a candidate for marking as inactive, and possibly deletion, on that basis. I would suggest you consider adding your name to the list. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 21:12, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
- I have no interest in this project. Feel free to delete. My only "contribution" was moving it out of article space. —freak(talk) 21:14, Sep. 27, 2006 (UTC)
User:Ikiroid/XfD advice
Hi again Nurture. I created a subpage of XfD pointers for myself and others at User:Ikiroid/XfD advice. Since you are always dealing with prods, speedies, afds, etc., would you like to add a few tips? Your experience would be appreciated. The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 22:26, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
Elections
Esperanza electionsThanks for supporting me in the September Advisory Council Esperanza elections. Although I wasn't elected to the Advisory Council, I am very happy with the response I received from my fellow Wikipedians. I was shocked at the support, and was touched by it. Hopefully I will re-apply in March and try again for the job. Thanks again, Highway 23:46, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
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IAmaze Entry
Hi, can you please revert the IAmaze page you deleted last week? (Or at least tell me why you deleted it so I can avoid this in the future.) Thanks!
Broofa 16:34, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
- It was deleted as per Misplaced Pages:Proposed deletion procedure, which basically means somebody puts a {{prod}} tag on it and if nobody objects (by removing the tag) it gets deleted in five days without the discussion page overhead. But such deletions are explicitly non-binding, and since you've contested it after the fact, I restored it and listed it for a full discussion at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/IAmaze. If it gets deleted once again, I'd have to refer you to Misplaced Pages:Deletion review. —freak(talk) 16:39, Oct. 3, 2006 (UTC)
Semi-protection of Bogdanov Affair
It's been more than a month since the last sockpuppet attack on Bogdanov Affair (last reversion). I noticed that you were one who most recently applied semi-protection (here). Maybe now is a good time to try un-semi-protecting the article, just to test the waters? Anville 16:04, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
- Well, to be frank, I don't really see the point in opening the door to IP editors and brand new accounts, when any edits made by such users will be subject to blanket reverting and blocking, persuant to WP:BOGDANOV. In the one-in-a-million scenario where an innocent noob finds Bogdanov Affair as a random page, and then proceeds to make a good-faith spelling correction as his first edit, he might not get reverted, since the edit was unambiguously positive, but he'd most likely still get blocked as a suspected Bogda-sock. So perhaps it would be better not to let people's feelings get hurt? I really don't know, I'll think about it. —freak(talk) 16:22, Oct. 5, 2006 (UTC)
- OK, fair points. I was just trying to see if we could gauge the sock-puppet density still present out there, but it might not be worth the trouble. Anville 16:43, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
Okay, the sockpuppet theater is still staging the Tragedy of Classical and Quantum Gravity for our entertainment (diff and diff). I guess un-semi-protection was a little premature. So it goes. If you'd like to re-semi-protect, I won't object. Anville 00:30, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
- In fact, given the video-game-like pace of reverts today, I think it would be a good idea. So much for my little experiment — and kudos to your better judgment! :-/ Anville 21:20, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
- Thank you. I sincerely regret putting you to all the extra trouble. Anville 22:05, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
User:Uzumaki
He's a reincarnation all right, but not of Freestylefrappe. Mackensen (talk) 23:26, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
- Blainetologist is back with what appears to be a vandalism-only account. He attacked the same page and uses the same sort of language (e.g. ). BhaiSaab 12:17, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
It's not my thing so let it go
Semiprotection?
Hi, FreakofNuture, do I understand correctly that you have semiprotection powers? Some of my user pages have been repeatedly vandalized by anon socks for permabanned user KraMuc (talk · contribs) recently; see history of User:Hillman/Dig/KraMuc. Is it possible to request semiprotection of those pages to avoid this kind of thing? Also, I've recently had some rather strange and nasty exchanges with an anon (a troll, surely) who showed up in my user talk page claiming to have found a rude word in another language (apparently Hebrew) in a philosophy article, masquerading as a technical word in English, but he wouldn't say what article despite repeated requests! Is there any precedent for semiprotecting a user talk page? Given my public stance that welcoming anon edits is incompatible with the putative encyclopedic mission of Misplaced Pages, I can't see any reason why I would want to hear from anons, since they never seem to come to my user talk page except to carp and troll.
If you have a chance, can you see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Pseudoscience#Monitoring_continued_problematic_activity_by_permabanned_users? We are discussing moving four (or possibly five) of my current Dig pages to that project and asking that they be semiprotected or even protected to ease maintainance. KraMuc in particular has made it clear that he intends to violate any policy he pleases as long as he can get away with it, and Salsman has made it quite clear he intends to violate the ArbCom ruling against his editing DU related articles.---CH 21:55, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
Hooray--so it is! Thank you, Freak! (LOL, suddenly that sounded odd, but from your sig I am not in fact being incivil!) This should fix or at least greatly ameliorate the problem. ---CH 02:27, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks!
Thank you for the smile! I don't understand the edit summary though, it has to do with Judas right? Are you religious? People Powered 23:34, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
tip of the day
Thank you so much for your helpful tip!. Yours, Smeelgova 06:52, 12 October 2006 (UTC).
Glad to see you back, hope you stay
You're a real asset, glad you're back and hope it's to stay (I can't really tell). Don't feel obligated though, taking crap from your teammates can be rough. Best wishes either way. 128.227.67.143 18:24, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks, Freak. Bishonen | talk 01:13, 15 October 2006 (UTC).
AFD's
How did you do that? Sr13 01:49, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
LOL!
I just LOVE it when vandals start insulting admins via their pathetic little user names. Keep up the good work. This is fun!
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User:People Powered
Hi Freak, what's going on? What makes you think People Powered has anything to do with Karmafist? I've been in communication with him ever since he joined, and I can't make the connection. — riana_dzasta 08:08, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
- Apart from editing New Hampshire related articles and voting on a lot of RfAs... OK, this might be freakin' me out a little. — riana_dzasta 08:16, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
Er, any reason you pulled the plug now? Other people made the connection, but he seemed to be avoiding conflict, and other than the drive for adminship, he wasn't doing anything alarming. Choess 11:38, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
thomasx5000
Ok I will. Thanks dude.
Chode
Hey, good idea. Good to see you back as well. --Mr. Lefty (talk) 00:49, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Heads up
Nathanr is complaining about you on the mailing list. The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 01:14, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
- Fascinating. —freak(talk) 01:14, Oct. 16, 2006 (UTC)
- Just an FYI.....I find complaints about editors thru email a bit underhanded and cabalistic, because it's not public. The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 01:23, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
User:People Powered
Could you provide a better block message and some reason or evidence. —Centrx→talk • 01:17, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
- http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Hillsborough_County%2C_New_Hampshire_2006_Elections&action=history
- http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Andrew_Sylvia
- http://andyforstaterepbio.blogspot.com/2006/07/i-am-long-time-resident-of-merrimack.html
- http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Nashua%2C_New_Hampshire&diff=79775486&oldid=79552643
- http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Special:Whatlinkshere&target=Andrew_Sylvia
- http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=2004_New_Hampshire_Election_Results&action=history
Do the math. —freak(talk) 01:37, Oct. 16, 2006 (UTC)
I don't mean to be disrespectful, but is there a chance that this is a bit of a coincidence? There must be many people who are involved in New Hampshire politics. Just a thought. riana_dzasta 04:49, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
- As Choess said above, was an indefinite block really necessary? People Powered has a fairly wide editing history (though that obviously doesn't include the article(s) that Centrx deleted, above) and seems to be avoiding conflicts very effectively. Even if we were to assume that this user is Karmafist's sock, they seem to be avoiding the kinds of trouble that resulted in the latter's block - I believe the spirit of WP:SOCK is in avoiding continued damage to Misplaced Pages, rather than keeping individuals away indefinitely. Was there any harm being done to necessitate a block, here? Daveydweeb (/patch) 05:04, 16 October 2006 (UTC)