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Stormfront.

I think hiding the references in comments is deeply silly, as you may as well not have them for all the use they are to the casual reader. I can appreciate, however, that we do not want to artificially inflate a hate site's rankings on Google. Surely, though, it is very easy to simply reference urls without linking them? i.e. en.wikipedia.org? Would this not work? Dev920 21:42, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for looking it over. I don't know if Google would pick up on non-linked URLs or not. My concern is that if we treat Stormfront differently than we treat any other websites, isn't Misplaced Pages essentially passing judgement on whether a referenced is "Good" or "Bad"? I mean, I'm comfortable with me, a human being, saying that white supremacists are bad, but I tend to think Misplaced Pages should have as a "neutral" a point-of-view as possible on political issues. Should we have a different set of rules for hate sites than we have for other sites? What do you think? It's a complicated issue-- no one wants to help the Nazis, but I don't want to discriminate against them either --Alecmconroy 21:51, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I do agree with you, though I think the references condemn them ipso facto! There is a policy discussion going on at the village pump about this, I know, but what might be more useful is if you could find any previous examples of what people have done when faced with refrencing hate sites. I've been checking neo-nazi articles but haven't found anything as yet - you might have a bit more luck. Dev920 22:02, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

As far as i know the surest way not to inflate their page rank is to link the google-cached version.-- ExpImp 22:05, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi Alec, that's some interesting stuff you found about that reporter. Nice work :). Yes I think it should stay in but some people are determined to keep it out. Strange, seeing as how that was the main barrier they had and was what they were insisting on. You'd think that finding a story, which is actually reproduced on their site, would be good enough to satisfy them. I'm going to just keep putting it back in. Thanks again, Stick to the Facts 12:56, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Ummm why did you edit it out? I just noticed that now. Stick to the Facts 12:58, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

SafeLibraries?

Hi Alec, I'm trying to figure out what my next step should be regarding the American Library Association pages. SafeLibraries has been treading into some areas that I'm not entirely comfortable with on the Talk pages as far as bringing my personal/professional life into my trying to keep the ALA article reasonable. I'll happilly step away from it if that's whats indicated, I just feel that his continual attempts to inject more controversy into this page are bordering on bad behavior. Care to offer some advice either here or via email? Thanks. Jessamyn (talk) 14:53, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

re:RfC on Muhammad as a diplomat

hey Alec, i just wanted to give my thanks to you for taking a good amount of time to comment on the article in question, it was a very thoughtful contribution. i know what you mean when you talk about few responses to RfC's, it can sometimes be very disappointing, so even more thanks for taking the time to help out. regards, ITAQALLAH 16:21, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Stormfront again

Sure, put it back in if you like but please don't touch the Don Black illegal activity part in the first section. Stick to the Facts 16:46, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

We were specifically told by ElC not to include more than one link to SF. If you want the reference you can make it hidden. Don't get on my case for deleting stuff and then do the same in return. Stick to the Facts 12:43, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Science

I nominated The Quran and science for deletion, do you mind weighing in? Arrow740 00:27, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

There is an hourly struggle over this article, and it only gets worse. Oh well. At least in a few weeks people will be willing to delete it. Arrow740 08:30, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

BSA controversy

I thought you made excellent points in the ongoing controversy re Heqwm and the BSA article. You may be interested in the mediation case he filed: Misplaced Pages:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-10-08 BSA. Rlevse 14:09, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Alecmconroy and Jagz--First, congrats again on the fine job you did getting Boy Scouts of America membership controversies to FA status. I noticed it's had lots of edits lately and looked it over. I'm concerned about it possibly in the future losing it's FA status as things like a section with a bulleted list, poor punctuation and formatting, and loosely joined facts have crept in. I can help with formatting, refs, and such if you like, but as I am not an expert on these controversies, I would likely be of only limited help on the prose part. Let me know if you'd like me to help. If you care to repsond, leave a msg here on your page. Rlevse 02:11, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

SSB/Shashi Tharoor

I've put in an RFC over the controversy on the Shashi Tharoor page. Might you be interested? Ekantik 17:31, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Loss of Funding

I moved the Loss of Funding section again. Is it okay now or do you still like the old way? --Jagz 06:39, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Elephants

Thanks, didn't want to get trampled by vandals again! — xaosflux 03:45, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

User:MONGO

MONGO has had enough harrassment by ED trolls. Leave him and his Talk page alone, or you will be blocked. User:Zoe|(talk) 18:03, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

So long as you don't harrass him again. I have just blocked User:Jgp for restoring the ED link. User:Zoe|(talk) 21:01, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Mongo is a RACIST

"How about getting al-Zarqawi's Momma, stripping her, and throwing her in a pig pen with starved boars (ala Hannibal Lecter 2nd movie)? Film, of course, sent to Al Jazzera. We need to get medieval on these scum." http://mongomutter.blogspot.com/2004/09/one-down.html

"Everything I ever needed to know about Islam I learned on 9/11." http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5650/571/320/lesson_learned.jpg

followers-of-islam-can-you-see-blood

picture of the koran with a swastika on it: http://mongomutter.blogspot.com/2005/07/calling-londonistan-its-time-to-wake.html

Is this the kind of anti-islamic BIGOT you want representing wikipedia? someone who advocates stripping an old woman of her clothes and throwing her to pigs?

the kind of vitriolic hate mongo dishes out is disgusting and you people defend him and stand up for him.