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:As you would have found out through proper research before starting your article, there's already an article about this university. I'm not sure why you started another. Add your information to the article that already exists at ]. ] (]) 00:12, 31 May 2018 (UTC) :As you would have found out through proper research before starting your article, there's already an article about this university. I'm not sure why you started another. Add your information to the article that already exists at ]. ] (]) 00:12, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
::That article is about the UWI University system and not this University in Mona Jamaica in particular. It is part of that system, but is obviously independently notable. There's a book about its history. Loads of coverage. And of cpurse we need to add its establishment as a medical school, expansion, what areas of study are offered. Alumni. Etc. Etc. Let's get serious and stop wasting time with these frivolous Afd noms.] (]) 00:36, 31 May 2018 (UTC) ::That article is about the UWI University system and not this University in Mona Jamaica in particular. It is part of that system, but is obviously independently notable. There's a book about its history. Loads of coverage. And of cpurse we need to add its establishment as a medical school, expansion, what areas of study are offered. Alumni. Etc. Etc. Let's get serious and stop wasting time with these frivolous Afd noms.] (]) 00:36, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
:::Ok, {{u|FloridaArmy}}, I see what you are trying to do, but there are several issues. One, the sources should be reliable secondary sources, and only limited use of primary sources. Second, you're mixing in subjects previous to the start of the school... a little of which could be in notes or a background section, but you're peppering the article. If you think that the refugee camp deserves it's own article, it should have one, but it shouldn't be mixed in this article, per ], as {{u|Exemplo347}} mentioned.

:::If you give me a little bit of time, I think I can clean it up to a workable starting place. Please read and ] the comments that are made in the edit summary.–] (]) 01:08, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

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University of the West Indies (Jamaica)

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No individual notability exists for this campus. It is already mentioned at the article for the University of the West Indies, and this article is built on primary sources and a WP:COATRACK mention about something else. The subject of the article, under its correct title, is already a redirect to the University of the West Indies. Exemplo347 (talk) 09:31, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Caribbean-related deletion discussions. Exemplo347 (talk) 09:34, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions. Exemplo347 (talk) 09:35, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Exemplo347 (talk) 09:35, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Comment - I wondered this when I first saw the article, but didn't want to delete or nominate because of my previous history with the creator. After I tried to improve it, the content was changed, making it even less notable than it initially appeared. Deb (talk) 10:57, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Merge to University of the West Indies and develop there as the main "founding" campus of three campuses The content there barely makes a paragraph so that is already covered and referenced by the main campus article. If it becomes big enough to describe apart from the other campuses, then reconsider rename to University of the West Indies at Mona, but not for now. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 20:20, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Keep This is an utterly ridiculous nom and illustrates some of the ugly bias and bigotry we see on Misplaced Pages. A 70 year old university, one source says it was the first English language university in the Caribbean but I haven't verified, with a history dating further back to British estates awarded after the conquest of Jamaica in 1655 from Spain as well as major 19th century sugar plantations. And then it was used as a the site of a WWII evacuee camp and to hold internees. The nom has now resorted to removing the University's history in order to try and sustain his nomination to delete. Would we delete a 70 year old University in the U.S. or the U.K.? How about one on a site dating to an estate from the 1660s? One on the site where a camp held refugees during World War II? I think not. Sad really. FloridaArmy (talk) 00:05, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
As you would have found out through proper research before starting your article, there's already an article about this university. I'm not sure why you started another. Add your information to the article that already exists at University of the West Indies. Exemplo347 (talk) 00:12, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
That article is about the UWI University system and not this University in Mona Jamaica in particular. It is part of that system, but is obviously independently notable. There's a book about its history. Loads of coverage. And of cpurse we need to add its establishment as a medical school, expansion, what areas of study are offered. Alumni. Etc. Etc. Let's get serious and stop wasting time with these frivolous Afd noms.FloridaArmy (talk) 00:36, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
Ok, FloridaArmy, I see what you are trying to do, but there are several issues. One, the sources should be reliable secondary sources, and only limited use of primary sources. Second, you're mixing in subjects previous to the start of the school... a little of which could be in notes or a background section, but you're peppering the article. If you think that the refugee camp deserves it's own article, it should have one, but it shouldn't be mixed in this article, per WP:COATRACK, as Exemplo347 mentioned.
If you give me a little bit of time, I think I can clean it up to a workable starting place. Please read and comprehend the comments that are made in the edit summary.–CaroleHenson (talk) 01:08, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
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