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| Would respectfully request that these two pages be relisted, they were deleted for reasons of 1) not being relevant, and 2) due to the name of the CEO of both companies being the same. | |||
| As to the relevance issue, both companies are associated with the VoIP industry: The page postings of ] and of ] were both in the process of having more historical data added to them when they were deleted. Additionally, these two pages had relevant data on a same level as that of ] and ], which are still listed. | |||
| Once relisted, both pages WILL have additional historical data added to them. | |||
| On the point of Mr. Hitchens being listed as the CEO of both companies in the Key People area of the page, and somehow being a conflict of interest, it should be noted that if Virgin Atlantic and Virgin Mobile are checked, Sir Richard Branson is listed as a Key Person on both postings.....not a conflict of interest there? | |||
| So, please relist these pages. Changes will be made to bring them more in line with what is deemed a proper listing. | |||
| *'''Comment:''' I speedily deleted both articles under ] - Blatant advertising: ''Pages which exclusively promote a company, product, group or service and which would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic'' as supported by these following excerpts: | |||
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| * "In addition the broadband plans SKyNET also offers their customers toll free access to their VoIP network by dialing a toll free number..." | |||
| * "SkyNET Telesystems International calling includes...for full list | |||
| * "Some of the various features offered include: Caller ID with Name, Voice Mail, ..." | |||
| ;]: | |||
| * "...is available to companies or individuals wishing to terminate their high volume voice traffic." | |||
| * "Additionally, the services are available to those companies with large call volumes wishing to lower their phone charges." | |||
| * "Some of the various services offered include:...Reseller Opportunities" | |||
| Furthermore, no attempt was made to assert the notability of either company using ] independent of the company itself as required by ]. -- <small><span style="border: 1px solid">]]</span></small> 21:37, 24 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Endorse deletion''', valid G11 deletions. Nothing prevents anyone writing an article which asserts and verifies notability of these companies. --]<sup>]</sup> 23:07, 24 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Endorse deletion''' valid G11 speedies. <b>]</b> 13:39, 25 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Endorse deletion''' valid G11 speedies. I put a speedy template on once before and here it is again. And now someone else has stuck one on there...--] 16:10, 27 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Endorse deletion''' valid G11 terminations. <span style="font-family:serif;">—]✰]</span> 20:01, 27 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
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- Full reviews may be found in this page history. For a summary, see Misplaced Pages:Deletion review/Recently concluded (2006 October)
24 October 2006
Anarchopedia
Come on! what's going on here? With approaching 100,000 Google hits Anarchopedia is notable. I see absolutely no reason for this deleted page to be protected. Continued protection says all the wrong things about Misplaced Pages. So get it unprotected and I'll write a (short) article about Anarchopedia. Arcturus 18:58, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
- Anarchopedia (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Anarchopedia, last deleted by Xoloz as a repost on 10/2/06. --W.marsh 19:32, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
- Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Anarchopedia 3rd nomination appears to be the most recent AFD, closed by Xoloz on 8/15/06. (There also was a no consensus second nomination.) GRBerry 21:02, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
- Endorse deletion Article subject already went through successful afd nom plus apparently 2 deletion reviews which concluded with supporting the deletion verdict. Compelling new evidence needs to be introduced to reopen the issue. Googling for Anarchopedia produces a lot of noise, but it seems very difficult to find anything authoritative as a source. Single hit in Factiva database - from a brief mention in an Irish Times column discussing the Los Angeles Times' 2005 ill-fated and short-lived "wikitorial" experiment. (And the column inaccurately uses Anarchopedia as one example of "many" Misplaced Pages fork projects) Bwithh 19:27, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
- Endorse Deletion valid AfD. Who cares how many Google hits there are when there are only . Plus all the usual: WP:WEB, WP:V, lack of reliable sources, etc. With the AfD and previous DRVs, consensus is clear. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 21:00, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
- Endorse deletion, Google hits mean absolutely nothing in terms of notability. No reason presented to overturn AfD. --Sam Blanning 21:04, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
- Endorse deletion If the nominator believes that an article can now be written that meets WP:WEB based on independent coverage in sources that meet our standards for reliability, they are encouraged to do so in their userspace and propose that article here. There is too much unpalatable history here for me to be comfortable unprotecting the article before seeing the new version. GRBerry 21:06, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
- Endorse deletion. No additional arguments in favor. `'mikkanarxi 21:31, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
- Restore. On my way out this evening I stood in a puddle. On returning home I looked it up in Misplaced Pages and there it was, an article about the puddle outside my house! Misplaced Pages is full to the brim with non notable articles and in serious danger of overflowing. Maybe Anarchopedia doesn't pass the Misplaced Pages notability test (I think it probably does). One thing is certain though, it is critical of Misplaced Pages, and of Jimmy Wales. Funny then, that mention of it here, i.e. within its own article, is forbidden. If I didn't know any better I'd be thinking that there are hidden agendas in operation; maybe there are. Personally I'm not that bothered one way or the other, but banning an article about this subject leaves Misplaced Pages open to the worst possible criticism, namely that it applies censorship. Whether or not censorship is actually applied is irrelevant. It will be perceived to be the case. You have been warned! Arcturus 21:41, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
- Oh no, I just realised Britannica doesn't have an entry on this either! Neither does Encarta, Funk & Wagnalls, World Book, or The Greater Ozarks Bass Fishing Guide! It's worse than I thought! Everyone is trying to censor you! It's a worldwide conspiracy!!!!1 Ok, ok, seriously... if you see other non-notable articles on WP, prod them or take them to AfD. The (true enough) fact that we do have some bad articles doesn't mean we need/want more of them. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 22:30, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
- Like the guy below, you haven't grasped the main point I'm trying to make, so let me try again. It's the fact that the article can't be (re)created that leaves Misplaced Pages open to criticism. It probably wouldn't matter for any other article, but in Anarchopedia, which I happen to think is crap anyway, we have a site that lambasts Misplaced Pages. Therefore it will be concluded that the reason for this "censorship" is not because of notability or the lack of it, but simply because of its critical stance. Now you might know this is not the case, ans so might I, but the world at large will see it differently. Arcturus 22:52, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
- So every site critical of Misplaced Pages should have an article in Misplaced Pages, for the sake of openness, and to avoid criticism on that count? Would this include, say, Joe Smith's sister's cousin's brother-in-law's blog at livejournal? We have no obligation to cover criticisms of Misplaced Pages unless they stem from an otherwise notable source; just insulting us shouldn't be sufficient reason to have an article within us. My girlfriend certainly hates Misplaced Pages, mainly for the amount of time I spend here, and I don't think she merits an article: Do you? Xoloz 01:41, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
- Get a grip of yourself! It's the fact that the article can't even be created. Do I need to spell it out in words of one syllable? Arcturus 07:44, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
- Censorship isn't the same as deleting things for lacking notability. And as it is, there are still 479 links to anarchopedia from wikipedia, so whoever's doing this "censoring" is kind of sloppy. - Bobet 06:55, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
- So every site critical of Misplaced Pages should have an article in Misplaced Pages, for the sake of openness, and to avoid criticism on that count? Would this include, say, Joe Smith's sister's cousin's brother-in-law's blog at livejournal? We have no obligation to cover criticisms of Misplaced Pages unless they stem from an otherwise notable source; just insulting us shouldn't be sufficient reason to have an article within us. My girlfriend certainly hates Misplaced Pages, mainly for the amount of time I spend here, and I don't think she merits an article: Do you? Xoloz 01:41, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
- Like the guy below, you haven't grasped the main point I'm trying to make, so let me try again. It's the fact that the article can't be (re)created that leaves Misplaced Pages open to criticism. It probably wouldn't matter for any other article, but in Anarchopedia, which I happen to think is crap anyway, we have a site that lambasts Misplaced Pages. Therefore it will be concluded that the reason for this "censorship" is not because of notability or the lack of it, but simply because of its critical stance. Now you might know this is not the case, ans so might I, but the world at large will see it differently. Arcturus 22:52, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
- Oh no, I just realised Britannica doesn't have an entry on this either! Neither does Encarta, Funk & Wagnalls, World Book, or The Greater Ozarks Bass Fishing Guide! It's worse than I thought! Everyone is trying to censor you! It's a worldwide conspiracy!!!!1 Ok, ok, seriously... if you see other non-notable articles on WP, prod them or take them to AfD. The (true enough) fact that we do have some bad articles doesn't mean we need/want more of them. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 22:30, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
- Endorse my own deletion, valid AfD, valid G4. To the above commenter: the presence of non-notable article is not evidence in favor of allowing every non-notable article. Such a flawed "reverse slippery slope" argument would, if followed, make Misplaced Pages a depository for every bit of information that exists, a violation of WP:NOT. Furthermore, while Misplaced Pages is not censored for the protection of minors, it is censored to eliminate unencyclopedic material. This is good thing, and the major defense that prevents Misplaced Pages from becoming a blog. This kind of "censorship" is sometimes called "quality control." Xoloz 22:01, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
- To the above commenter, you obviously haven't understood the major point I was trying to make, and perhaps you should find out what quality control is actually about. Anyway, no worries. Like I said, I'm not that bothered one way or the other. Arcturus 22:12, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
- Endorse deletion, valid interpretation of the delete debate, the opinions of the site's owner on its encyclopaedic merit may not be fully objective. The temptation to speedy close any nomination which invokes censorship is overwhelming. Guy 14:58, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
- Endorse deletion for someone who is not bothered one way or the other, the author sure seems to care a lot about this page. Danny Lilithborne 02:23, 27 October 2006 (UTC)