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The page was moved against consensus, with no new sources being added. I have reverted unless and until that situation changes. For all the reasons cited here on talk. - ] <sup>]</sup> ] 20:30, 11 June 2018 (UTC) The page was moved against consensus, with no new sources being added. I have reverted unless and until that situation changes. For all the reasons cited here on talk. - ] <sup>]</sup> ] 20:30, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

==Claims of Cherokee heritage==
Kelsey is not cherokee according to this article
http://www.pechanga.net/content/eastern-band-cherokee-indians-says-wind-river-and-yellowstone-actress-not-enrolled-nor-desce <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </small>

:Agreed. The tribe she claimed to be from has issued an official statement that she is not a member or even a descendant:
<blockquote>In a recent article entitled “What’s So Hard About Casting Indian Actors in Indian Roles?” published by The New York Times, it stated that “Kelsey Asbille, who plays Natalie, the young Indian woman who is raped and murdered in “Wind River,” is of Taiwanese, British and Eastern Band Cherokee descent.”

There is an increased outcry from the Native community and society at large concerning whitewashing and cultural appropriation in media and the motion picture industry. To the public’s knowledge, Ms. Asbille (Chow) had not claimed Native ancestry until Wind River. No proof was offered by Kelsey, her representatives, directors or producers to verify her claim of Native heritage, either.

As a result, Native American actor and producer Sonny Skyhawk, who is Sicangu Lakota and founder of American Indians in Film & Television, a National advocacy organization that monitors the image and portrayal of the Native Nations of America, put forth an inquiry with the Eastern Band of Cherokee as to the validity of Kelsey’s claim.

"The only legally recognized entity that can prove and declare one’s Native identity is the tribal nation that anyone claims,” Mr. Skyhawk states.

The Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians, a federally recognized tribe, responded by denying her tribal membership and descendancy.

''“The enrollment and descendant records of the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians have been searched for the aforementioned person. Kelsey Asbille (Chow) is not now nor has she ever been an enrolled member of the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians. No documentation was found in our records to support any claim that she descends from the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians.”'' -Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians Enrollment Specialist

This letter of denial from the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians bears the official tribal seal.

Not only is it the responsibility of the actors and actresses who claim Native heritage to communicate proof of Native lineage, but producers and directors as well.</blockquote>
This should stay on the talk page as long as there is any controversy about her status, and be noted in the the article in some form if the claim is made again or becomes an issue in the edits. - ] <sup>]</sup> ] 21:43, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

Due to the driveby IP disruption & refusal to engage on talk I've semi-ed this for a month. Other admins, feel free to review, as I've done some minor edits here. - ] <sup>]</sup> ] 20:05, 24 November 2017 (UTC)

As the identical, persistent, IP disruption resumed as soon as the "semi-protected" template was removed from the page, I've semi-ed this again, this time for three months. - ] <sup>]</sup> ] 23:29, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

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Move to Kelsey Asbille

There's no good source for this yet, but she's changed her stage name to Kelsey Asbille. On her IMDb she she is listed that way IMDb and it mentions "(as Kelsey Chow)" for every role up to Teen Wolf in 2016, her latest five roles on their own IMDb pages all say Kelsey Asbille in their casts. Also, mentioned on tangents in this thread on reddit (expand the negative voted one on the bottom), this comment section about her being Native American enough: http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/106964194.html, and justjaredjr.com/tags/kelsey-chow/ "Kelsey Asbille (you may know her as Kelsey Chow) is still in college." All that I came up with searching for references to her name change. It just happened, it appears, without press release. Every site tends to mention her as Kelsey Chow or as Kelsey Asbille with the former being throughout her career and currently and the latter only being quite recently. She uses Asbille herself on social media and to pen and publish puff-pieces, see: http://www.townandcountrymag.com/leisure/arts-and-culture/a10235205/kelsey-asbille-college-interview/. Will move the page in a week if no objections. JesseRafe (talk) 17:42, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

Oppose I think we need to wait and see how this sorts out. As of now, none of the above are WP:RS sources. I think including the full form of her name, as it is now, is best until there is a WP:RS source for an official name change. BTW, anyone can edit IMDb. See below for the fact she is not Native. For now, the page should stay where it is. - CorbieV 21:43, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
For now, I've made Kelsey Asbille a redirect to this article (as of this moment, Kelsey Chow). If she settles on Kelsey Asbille Chow, we may well wind up moving the article there, instead. There's no deadline. However, now that she has used Asbille for two films and Chow on all the others, someone needs to go through and indicate which name she used on which projects. While the article is still at Chow, all that needs to be indicated is that she's used Asbille for Yellowstone and Wind River. But if she goes through with the name change, and if the page name changes, all the past credits will need to be annotated. I suggest it be done by whoever wants to move the page. :) - CorbieV 18:54, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

The page was moved against consensus, with no new sources being added. I have reverted unless and until that situation changes. For all the reasons cited here on talk. - CorbieV 20:30, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

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