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| ::::::That is a tool that returns a transcription if the words in the input match entries in its internal dictionary (which, according to the documentation, is based on the ] ). What I'm asking is the source of the pronunciations per se, not the transcriptions. When you add {{IPAc-en|ˈ|p|ɛ|t|ə|r|z|b|ɜː|r|g}} at ], {{IPAc-en|aː|r|ˈ|k|æ|n|z|ə|s|}} {{respell|ar|KAN|səs}} at ], {{IPAc-en|p|iː|r|uː}} {{respell|PEE|roo}} at ], and {{IPAc-en|w|aɪ|ʌ|m|ɪ|ŋ}} {{respell|WY|um|ihng}} at ] (as opposed to , , , and which ToPhonetics.com returns), what are you basing them on? Have you heard people use those pronunciations when referring to those places? ] (]) 17:40, 2 October 2019 (UTC) | ::::::That is a tool that returns a transcription if the words in the input match entries in its internal dictionary (which, according to the documentation, is based on the ] ). What I'm asking is the source of the pronunciations per se, not the transcriptions. When you add {{IPAc-en|ˈ|p|ɛ|t|ə|r|z|b|ɜː|r|g}} at ], {{IPAc-en|aː|r|ˈ|k|æ|n|z|ə|s|}} {{respell|ar|KAN|səs}} at ], {{IPAc-en|p|iː|r|uː}} {{respell|PEE|roo}} at ], and {{IPAc-en|w|aɪ|ʌ|m|ɪ|ŋ}} {{respell|WY|um|ihng}} at ] (as opposed to , , , and which ToPhonetics.com returns), what are you basing them on? Have you heard people use those pronunciations when referring to those places? ] (]) 17:40, 2 October 2019 (UTC) | ||
| :::::::No I just assumed them. ---Quashawn 18:39, 2 October 2019 (UTC) | |||
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i'm used to discussing stuff now, i used to not like it before. as for the ipa on geography pages in the united states, i use a website called toPhonetics to do it.
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English pronunciation
Please familiarize yourself with the Help:IPA/English key if you continue instating English pronunciations. All polysyllabic words in English possess primary stress, which is marked by ˈ. "a" in "father" is ɑː, "a" in "trap" is æ, "aw" in "saw" is ɔː, "or" in "north" is ɔːr, "ar" in "start" is ɑːr, and we distinguish all these vowels even though not all of them are distinguished in all varieties of English. Nardog (talk) 13:41, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
This doesn't make much sense. Are you saying the third syllable (LEE) is stressed, unlike in the word Napoleon (nə-POH-lee-ən)? Nardog (talk) 13:44, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
Re Ypsilanti, Georgia: Are you saying the first syllable begins with the consonant /j/ (as in "yacht") + the diphthong /aɪ/ (as in "rice"), not just the diphthong? And is the primary stress really on the first syllable, not the third? Nardog (talk) 13:49, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
- Napoleonville, Louisiana: yes i am saying that the third syllable should be stressed. why should it be unstressed? you know i always get confused with these type of things. i'll do better with ipa so you won't have to correct it.
- Ypsilanti, Georgia: you read my edit summary right? the pronounciation has to differ so that users won't get confused. any further arguements about it should be placed here and here only. just deal with it. ---Quashawn 20:02, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
- You instated /nəˈpoʊˈliənvɪl/, which is an impossible notation (our IPA for English is a compromise between British Received Pronunciation and General American so it can be mapped to each reader's own accent—see MOS:DIAPHONEMIC and H:IPAE#Dialect variation). No English word has two primary stresses in it. A sequence of two adjacent (secondarily and primarily) stressed syllables in a word with more than two syllables is also rare. And /i/ cannot be stressed. So if it is the third syllable that is stressed, then it must be /ˌnæpoʊˈliːənvɪl/ or /ˌnæpəˈliːənvɪl/.
- /jɪpsʌlɒnti/ is also an impossible notation, as it lacks stress, and doesn't agree with the respelling YAHYP-suh-lon-tee you gave along with it. Again, where's the primary stress? And do you actually mean the first syllable is composed of the glide /j/, the diphthong /aɪ/ (or the monophthong /ɪ/ if the IPA is the one to go by), and /p/? Nardog (talk) 20:32, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
- The pronunciation of Ypsilanti is included in this book. Now we can't replace it with whatever pronunciation you were trying to add unless you can support it with a more reliable source, as replacing a sourced piece of information without an unsourced one is prohibited (see WP:V, WP:OR). Now, this has raised a question: Are the pronunciations you have been adding ones that are actually used to refer to those places by English speakers such as the locals? Nardog (talk) 21:02, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
- Please first answer this question. Nardog (talk) 23:05, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
- Um... ---Quashawn 06:31, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
- What is that supposed to mean? What is the source of the pronunciations you've been adding? Nardog (talk) 16:22, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- I use a website called ToPhonetics to do it. ---Quashawn 17:23, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- That is a tool that returns a transcription if the words in the input match entries in its internal dictionary (which, according to the documentation, is based on the CMU Pronouncing Dictionary ). What I'm asking is the source of the pronunciations per se, not the transcriptions. When you add /ˈpɛtərzbɜːrɡ/ at Petersburg, Missouri, /ɑːrˈkænzəs/ ar-KAN-səs at Arkansas, West Virginia, /piːruː/ PEE-roo at Peru, West Virginia, and /waɪʌmɪŋ/ WY-um-ihng at Wyoming, West Virginia (as opposed to , , , and which ToPhonetics.com returns), what are you basing them on? Have you heard people use those pronunciations when referring to those places? Nardog (talk) 17:40, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- No I just assumed them. ---Quashawn 18:39, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- That is a tool that returns a transcription if the words in the input match entries in its internal dictionary (which, according to the documentation, is based on the CMU Pronouncing Dictionary ). What I'm asking is the source of the pronunciations per se, not the transcriptions. When you add /ˈpɛtərzbɜːrɡ/ at Petersburg, Missouri, /ɑːrˈkænzəs/ ar-KAN-səs at Arkansas, West Virginia, /piːruː/ PEE-roo at Peru, West Virginia, and /waɪʌmɪŋ/ WY-um-ihng at Wyoming, West Virginia (as opposed to , , , and which ToPhonetics.com returns), what are you basing them on? Have you heard people use those pronunciations when referring to those places? Nardog (talk) 17:40, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- I use a website called ToPhonetics to do it. ---Quashawn 17:23, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- What is that supposed to mean? What is the source of the pronunciations you've been adding? Nardog (talk) 16:22, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- Um... ---Quashawn 06:31, 1 October 2019 (UTC)