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| :Unfortunately since the inscription is in English, an attentive reader will guess even without a caption that the building is probably in the United States or Britain, and may well reasonably think we are implying that one of those countries is a police state. I understand what you're saying, but the only way to make that clearly understood to readers would be to add a disclaimer to the caption. e.g. "This picture is only meant to give the feel of a police state, and does not come from an actual police state." That's not really acceptable, so I guess we're left with no choice but to remove the picture. Regrettable, since it was a great picture, but NPOV trumps everything else. I hope it can be used in some other article, though. --] 04:22, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC) | :Unfortunately since the inscription is in English, an attentive reader will guess even without a caption that the building is probably in the United States or Britain, and may well reasonably think we are implying that one of those countries is a police state. I understand what you're saying, but the only way to make that clearly understood to readers would be to add a disclaimer to the caption. e.g. "This picture is only meant to give the feel of a police state, and does not come from an actual police state." That's not really acceptable, so I guess we're left with no choice but to remove the picture. Regrettable, since it was a great picture, but NPOV trumps everything else. I hope it can be used in some other article, though. --] 04:22, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC) | ||
| == Economics meaning == | |||
| In economics, we call "Police State" to a State whose only intervention in the economy is the creation of laws and rules which help the market structure. Shouldn't this be added to the article? | |||
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I think that the remarks on the US are going overboard. This is a discussion of police states in general, not of the Bush administration's policies. David.Monniaux 14:15, 31 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Wouldn't the picture of the Department of Justice be more appropriate in a section on the Department of Justice (or possibly the US Patriot Act). The picture seems to imply that the US is a police state which I believe would not be in the NPOV. Maybe a picture of a historic building of the Stasi would be more appropriate (although I don't know enough about the Stasi to know objectively if they had created a police state). I am fairly inexperienced here, so I could use an explanation of why the picture is or is not NPOV. --Techieman 06:36, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)
- It seems that although the paragraphs regarding the US have been cut, the picture was left in. I'm removing it. porge
- That's unfortunate. That picture was way cool and really gave a "police state" feeling. Can't we keep it? --Shibboleth 05:42, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)
I took the picture, its a real picture. Im not implying that the US is a police state. Think of the picture as a description of what a police state is, rather than something that says the US is or is not a police state. I took a trip to DC, and while I was there we walked by the US DOJ building. The entire building was surrounded by this barbed wire fencing. Then I saw what was carved on the building. Whether the US is a police state or not is irrelevant. This picture shows a representation of what a police state FEELS like. Justice is cut off from the populace by the state. Leave the picture in, but without a caption of what the building is. Theon 17:32, Jul 26, 2004 (UTC)
- Unfortunately since the inscription is in English, an attentive reader will guess even without a caption that the building is probably in the United States or Britain, and may well reasonably think we are implying that one of those countries is a police state. I understand what you're saying, but the only way to make that clearly understood to readers would be to add a disclaimer to the caption. e.g. "This picture is only meant to give the feel of a police state, and does not come from an actual police state." That's not really acceptable, so I guess we're left with no choice but to remove the picture. Regrettable, since it was a great picture, but NPOV trumps everything else. I hope it can be used in some other article, though. --Shibboleth 04:22, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Economics meaning
In economics, we call "Police State" to a State whose only intervention in the economy is the creation of laws and rules which help the market structure. Shouldn't this be added to the article?