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	:{{not done}} as an RfC participant this closure request on my talk page. I do not want to argue about whether this closure request should have been made. I am marking this as closure request withdrawn, without prejudice against another editor filing another closure request. Courtesy pinging {{user\|Francis Schonken}}, who for listing this closure request at ANRFC. ] (]) 09:10, 28 December 2019 (UTC)		:{{not done}} as an RfC participant this closure request on my talk page. I do not want to argue about whether this closure request should have been made. I am marking this as closure request withdrawn, without prejudice against another editor filing another closure request. Courtesy pinging {{user\|Francis Schonken}}, who for listing this closure request at ANRFC. ] (]) 09:10, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

	*{{Initiated\|21:52, 14 November 2019 (UTC)\|done=}} Relisted, interpretation of the outcome appears to be still in dispute, so formal closure would be the best way forward imho. --] (]) 09:20, 28 December 2019 (UTC)		{{Initiated\|21:52, 14 November 2019 (UTC)\|done=}} Relisted, interpretation of the outcome appears to be still in dispute, so formal closure would be the best way forward imho. --] (]) 09:20, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

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The Requests for closure noticeboard is for posting requests to have an uninvolved editor assess, summarize, and formally close a discussion on Misplaced Pages. Formal closure by an uninvolved editor or administrator should be requested where consensus remains unclear, where the issue is a contentious one, or where there are wiki-wide implications, such as when the discussion is about creating, abolishing or changing a policy or guideline.

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Requests for closure

Administrative discussions

Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive314#Request for reclosure of RfC on Tulsi Gabbard's BLP (Assad/Modi)

(Initiated 1995 days ago on 24 July 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive314#Request for reclosure of RfC on Tulsi Gabbard's BLP (Assad/Modi)? This is an RfC close review that was archived without closure on 6 October 2019. Like deletion reviews, RfC close reviews should be formally assessed to determine whether the RfC close was correct or incorrect. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 08:36, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1024#Propose 1RR for AP2 for Snooganssnoogans

(Initiated 1884 days ago on 12 November 2019) - discussion has died down. 19 votes on 12 November, 20 votes on 13 November, 10 votes on 14 November. Just 4 votes from 15 November to 22 November. Total vote count 53. starship .paint (talk) 06:07, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

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RfCs

Misplaced Pages:Village pump (technical)/Archive 176#Suppress rendering of Template:Misplaced Pages books

(Initiated 1981 days ago on 6 August 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Misplaced Pages:Village pump (technical)#Suppress rendering of Template:Misplaced Pages books? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 01:25, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Archived without closure at Misplaced Pages:Village pump (technical)/Archive 176#Suppress rendering of Template:Misplaced Pages books --DannyS712 (talk) 02:42, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
{{not done}} per above. Please revive the discussion to assess the consensus. --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 07:36, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Removed not done template. An RfC close would be useful to determine whether the "Create a book" link on the sidebar of every article should be retained or removed. Changing the sidebar is a major decision and whether the discussion affecting the sidebar should be closed should not be dependent upon whether the discussion is archived. Cunard (talk) 08:55, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 161#RFC: Block edits that contain a VisualEditor bug

(Initiated 1953 days ago on 3 September 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Misplaced Pages:Village pump (proposals)#RFC: Block edits that contain a VisualEditor bug? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 00:04, 6 October 2019 (UTC)

Since the RfC is about the creation of an edit filter, I'm leaving a note at the edit filter noticeboard requesting that it be closed by an edit filter manager; it seems pretty clear that the consensus is for the creation of a filter, but such a decision could only be enacted by an efm. --DannyS712 (talk) 01:32, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Not done because it is an archived discussion. Please revive the discussion to assess the consensus. --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 07:38, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Done. Cunard (talk) 08:55, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Talk:Super Audio CD#Rfc: Meyer-Moran paper from 2007 in lead section

(Initiated 1938 days ago on 18 September 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Super Audio CD#Rfc: Meyer-Moran paper from 2007 in lead section? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 00:54, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 162#Proposal to delete Portal space

(Initiated 1938 days ago on 19 September 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Misplaced Pages:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 162#Proposal to delete Portal space? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 08:51, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

Not done because it is an archived discussion. Please revive the discussion to assess the consensus. --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 07:39, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Withdrawn as Not done since there is clearly no consensus in the discussion. Cunard (talk) 08:55, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Talk:Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease#RfC: Redirects of "chronic bronchitis" and "emphysema"

(Initiated 1933 days ago on 23 September 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease#RfC: Redirects of "chronic bronchitis" and "emphysema"? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 08:51, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/2019 community sentiment on binding desysop procedure

(Initiated 1909 days ago on 18 October 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/2019 community sentiment on binding desysop procedure? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 05:35, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

I cannot close this as I participated in the discussion. No clue as to how any closer will handle the consensus (if any) in the workshop section. --qedk (t 桜 c) 20:18, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

Talk:Tulsi Gabbard#RFC on Science of Identity Foundation

(Initiated 1908 days ago on 19 October 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Tulsi Gabbard#RFC on Science of Identity Foundation? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 02:27, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

Talk:Aaron Hernandez#RfC on the Brain Damage section

(Initiated 1901 days ago on 26 October 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Aaron Hernandez#RfC on the Brain Damage section? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 02:27, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages talk:Criteria for speedy deletion#RfC: Merge F9 into G12 redux

(Initiated 1893 days ago on 3 November 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Misplaced Pages talk:Criteria for speedy deletion#RfC: Merge F9 into G12 redux? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 09:29, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

Note: archived without closure to Misplaced Pages talk:Criteria for speedy deletion/Archive 75#RfC: Merge F9 into G12 redux --DannyS712 (talk) 18:57, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

Talk:List of sovereign states and dependent territories in Asia#RfC which version should stay

(Initiated 1886 days ago on 10 November 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:List of sovereign states and dependent territories in Asia#RfC which version should stay? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 09:29, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Maps#RfC regarding claimed territorial boundaries of a state

(Initiated 1885 days ago on 11 November 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Maps#RfC regarding claimed territorial boundaries of a state? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 09:29, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Village pump (policy)/Archive 155#Use of direct transclusion in portals and the newer portal transclusion templates

(Initiated 1883 days ago on 13 November 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Misplaced Pages:Village pump (policy)/Archive 155#Use of direct transclusion in portals and the newer portal transclusion templates? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 09:29, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

Not done because it is an archived discussion. Please revive the discussion to assess the consensus. --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 07:40, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Removed not done template. RfCs are regularly closed after they have been archived. That an RfC is archived is not a good reason not to assess the consensus. This RfC appears to have a clear consensus but I am not closing it as it Cunard (talk) 08:55, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Done. Cunard (talk) 08:55, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

MediaWiki talk:Titleblacklist#Request to prevent "Wikidata" titles from being created

(Initiated 1882 days ago on 14 November 2019) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at MediaWiki talk:Titleblacklist#Request to prevent "Wikidata" titles from being created? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 09:29, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

Talk:Mottainai#RFC on article versions

(Initiated 1881 days ago on 14 November 2019) ~~Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Talk:Mottainai#RFC on article versions? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 09:29, 15 December 2019 (UTC)~~

Not done as an RfC participant contested this closure request on my talk page. I do not want to argue about whether this closure request should have been made. I am marking this as closure request withdrawn, without prejudice against another editor filing another closure request. Courtesy pinging Francis Schonken (talk · contribs), who thanked me for listing this closure request at ANRFC. Cunard (talk) 09:10, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

(Initiated 1881 days ago on 14 November 2019) Relisted, interpretation of the outcome appears to be still in dispute, so formal closure would be the best way forward imho. --Francis Schonken (talk) 09:20, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

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Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 October 18#Category:Films based on real people

(Initiated 1921 days ago on 6 October 2019) Would an uninvolved editor please assess consensus in this ancient CfD discussion? Thanks! ‑‑Trialpears (talk) 14:41, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

Note: This was relisted to Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 December 5#Category:Films based on real people --DannyS712 (talk) 22:03, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
Already done on 5 December by User:DannyS712. --Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 07:43, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

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Talk:Hana o Pūn / Futari wa NS#Merge discussions

(Initiated 2196 days ago on 4 January 2019) Discussion is about merging Kira Pika to Kirarin Revolution with unclear consensus. lullabying (talk) 17:31, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Done Mgasparin (talk) 23:50, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

Talk:Autism#How should those with the condition be referred?

(Initiated 2009 days ago on 10 July 2019) Would an uninvolved editor or administrator please review this discussion? Thank you. Note: This discussion started as an RFC, but the RCF was malformed, so it is not an RFC. Just a regular discussion. --Wikiman2718 (talk) 05:21, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

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Revision as of 09:20, 28 December 2019 editFrancis Schonken (talk \| contribs)Extended confirmed users68,468 edits →Talk:Mottainai#RFC on article versions: relist← Previous edit		Revision as of 09:21, 28 December 2019 edit undoFrancis Schonken (talk \| contribs)Extended confirmed users68,468 editsm →Talk:Mottainai#RFC on article versions: layoutNext edit →
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	:{{not done}} as an RfC participant this closure request on my talk page. I do not want to argue about whether this closure request should have been made. I am marking this as closure request withdrawn, without prejudice against another editor filing another closure request. Courtesy pinging {{user\|Francis Schonken}}, who for listing this closure request at ANRFC. ] (]) 09:10, 28 December 2019 (UTC)		:{{not done}} as an RfC participant this closure request on my talk page. I do not want to argue about whether this closure request should have been made. I am marking this as closure request withdrawn, without prejudice against another editor filing another closure request. Courtesy pinging {{user\|Francis Schonken}}, who for listing this closure request at ANRFC. ] (]) 09:10, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

	*{{Initiated\|21:52, 14 November 2019 (UTC)\|done=}} Relisted, interpretation of the outcome appears to be still in dispute, so formal closure would be the best way forward imho. --] (]) 09:20, 28 December 2019 (UTC)		{{Initiated\|21:52, 14 November 2019 (UTC)\|done=}} Relisted, interpretation of the outcome appears to be still in dispute, so formal closure would be the best way forward imho. --] (]) 09:20, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

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