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I have no idea what you think Misplaced Pages is for, what you're doing or what you hope to achieve by your presence here, but it is clear you're not here to contribute in an appropriate, collaborative manner, accordingly, I have indefinitely blocked you. You may appeal this block by following the instructions here. Nick (talk) 14:24, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

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unblock discussion

Reviewing. --Deep fried okra User talk:Deepfriedokra 15:38, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you kindly. I emailed the blocking Admin this following message:

Hi, BasicsOnly here.

I'm not sure why you blocked me. I'll assume that you objected to what I said in the talk portion of the RFA. However, this does not mean that I am not contributing to the website, so I would contest that it does not fit under Obviously not here to build an Encyclopedia. In just 2 days I have performed several quality edits that improve the quality of the site, as well as promoting the creation of a very worthwhile article on 6 time BJJ world champion Paulo Sergio Santos.

I have also disclosed my own conflicts of interest on my talk page. For the record, I read up on the topic of the controversies surrounding the RFA candidate, and that is what lead me to respond. To be honest, it looks a lot like reprisal to follow someone for a single lapse of judgment all the way to their RFA to oppose it because you don't like the way they voted. I'm not saying you specifically are doing so, but this is why I spoke out.

I look forward to long term (though less frequent) content contribution in the narrow field of Martial Arts, which is my specialty. I have an extensive background in Muay Thai Kickboxing, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, and MMA. If you choose to keep me blocked there's obviously nothing I can do about it. I'm not going to go around and try to create a new account to circumvent the ban, but likewise I won't be able to contribute to my fields of expertise.

Thanks for your time, and I hope you will reconsider. I apologize if you found what I wrote disruptive, but I'm still getting into the groove of things here.

V/R

BasicsOnly

Also, some VERY strange things are going on with the Deepak Rao page. I invite you to check it out. All the items removed from the article for being inaccurate or not sourced are being re-added one by one. This article deserves a very close look. I am confident that Mr. Rao or people close to him are watching the page and editing it to be a supporting advertisement for Mr. Rao's business. I'm not actually sure how his page passes notability requirements for a living person, but many of the claims are either inaccurate or uncited and the entire article is a mess of self-referencing or dead links.

• For what it's worth, mine was one of the Opposes that BasicsOnly objected to. But I had no problem with that, and would have been happy to respond and explain what's behind my reasoning. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 15:48, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
• I'd be happy to hear the other side. I opened it for discussion because it seemed like reprisal for voting a different way in a normal voting process, which seems to undermine the voting process itself. I am new to the site, so I'm sorry if it bothered anyone, but it really stands out when that is the largest primary objection in the RFA. Happy to hear any response you might have!

  Sure, but I'll leave it until this unblock discussion is finished and I'll get back to you. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 16:14, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

• You seem to have a profound interest in Deepak Rao. You have made some assertions and disrupted an RFA to make a point of it. Care to explain your interest?
• What is the connection between Mr. Rao and Paulo Sergio Santos? --Deep fried okra User talk:Deepfriedokra 16:07, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
• Would you agree to drop the Deepak Rao issue and stay off the RFA page?
• Would you stop dropping Paulo Sergio Santos' name in unrelated conversations (like this one) beyond creating a Draft via WP:AfC?
• What constructive edits would you make?
• Pardon my French, but this reprisal nonsense is bullshit. I've known Boing a long time. I disagree with him in this instance. We don't block people for disagreeing in an RFA. The problem is your "interest" in Deepak Rao with your dropping Paulo Sergio Santos' name at every opportunity. It smells of fish.
• @Nick: Input/feedback would be appreciated.
• Have you edited using any other account? Best, --Deep fried okra User talk:Deepfriedokra 16:07, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

@Deepfriedokra: I'm more than happy for you to handle. I've nothing further to add at this time, if anything else comes up, I'll let you know. Nick (talk) 16:11, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

• You seem to have a profound interest in Deepak Rao. You have made some assertions and disrupted an RFA to make a point of it. Care to explain your interest?
• Mr. Deepak Rao has made claims that are dangerous and self-promoting. In the martial art Brazilian Jiu Jitsu one of the worst things you can do is falsely claim rank that you did not earn. This is for 4 reasons: 1) because it cheapens and lessens the martial art, 2) because it is incredibly easy to tell if a practitioner has skill in line with their rank (especially at black belt), 3) because every single blackbelt’s lineage can be traced all the way back to the founder of the art and is therefore exceedingly easy to check and foolish to lie about, and 4) because it is very dangerous to teach a martial art such as BJJ which is comprised of techniques for strangulation to unconsciousness and breaking joints in live sparring without proper safety measures and a competent instructor.
• My largest issue with Mr. Deepak Rao is that he appears to have no integrity. None of his claims are verified with the exception of his honorary rank of major in the Indian Army Reserves. All of his sources are primary, self created, and many of the reference links are dead as well. Yet without any evidence he claims a M.D. from Harvard, a BJJ blackbelt (takes on average 9-12 years) from Paris, a Jeet Kun Do blackbelt from the US from a notable dead practitioner Richard Bustillo in California, to be a Global Peace Prize awardee, a Lawyer at Yale, and the list goes on. Imagine if someone sees his Misplaced Pages page and believes he is legit and goes to him for medical services? Or to train martial arts? There is a serious danger there as Misplaced Pages is seen by many as an authoritative source.
• What is the connection between Mr. Rao and Paulo Sergio Santos? --Deep fried okra User talk:Deepfriedokra 16:07, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
• Simply put, there is no connection between the two. Paulo Sergio Santos and Deepak Rao live over 7000 KM away from each other. I only brought up Paulo here because it is evidence against the claim of “(Clearly not here to build an encyclopedia)” as I’m trying to have the page created. I have also prior disclosed my COI with the subject as I have trained with Paulo before.
• Would you agree to drop the Deepak Rao issue and stay off the RFA page?
• I can stay off of the RFA page. I do believe that the Deepak Rao article bears serious investigation however. If you tell me I have to, I will stay off of it. But I would like to continue to contribute to that and other articles to ensure they are factual, consistent, and high quality.
• Would you stop dropping Paulo Sergio Santos' name in unrelated conversations (like this one) beyond creating a Draft via WP:AfC?

This is the only place I have talked about Paulo aside from in the appropriate venues. As I said before I only brought up Paulo here because it is evidence against the claim of “(Clearly not here to build an encyclopedia)” as I’m trying to have the page created. I have also prior disclosed my COI with the subject as I have trained with Paulo before.

• What constructive edits would you make?
• I would like to contribute primarily to martial arts related pages on Misplaced Pages. Specifically regarding the topics of Muay Thai, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, and MMA as these are my primary areas of expertise.
• Pardon my French, but this reprisal nonsense is bullshit. I've known Boing a long time. I disagree with him in this instance. We don't block people for disagreeing in an RFA. The problem is your "interest" in Deepak Rao with your dropping Paulo Sergio Santos' name at every opportunity. It smells of fish.
• I’m not saying this is reprisal against me. I was suggesting it’s worth discussing if the downvotes on the RFA constitute reprisal against candidate CaptainEek for their vote towards the unblock. Additionally, I questioned if it makes sense to oppose someone’s appointment for making a mistake. If we required Admins to be perfect and flawless, who would dare claim the role?
• Have you edited using any other account? Best, --Deep fried okra User talk:Deepfriedokra 16:07, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
• No, I just found out about editing Misplaced Pages. I did some small edits with IP before this in the last 2-3 days before I made an account. I’m rather new to the whole process.

Looking forward to hearing your response! V/R BasicsOnly (talk) 17:22, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

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