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This article uses a German title (while there is an English variant) and uses French and Italian translations in the article as well. Why did {{User|Matthead}} revert my move to an English title?] 10:29, 24 December 2006 (UTC) This article uses a German title (while there is an English variant) and uses French and Italian translations in the article as well. Why did {{User|Matthead}} revert my move to an English title?] 10:29, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
:because "Fechtbuch" is the term used in English. "Combat Manual" is just a literal translation, but nobody will know what you are talking about if you begin discussing "combat manuals". ] <small>]</small> 10:33, 24 December 2006 (UTC) :because "Fechtbuch" is the term used in English. "Combat Manual" is just a literal translation, but nobody will know what you are talking about if you begin discussing "combat manuals". An understandable English title would have to be something like "]", or, for short, "Fechtbuch". ] <small>]</small> 10:34, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

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listing as numbered by H-P Hils:

  1. Anton Rast/Paulus Hector Mair Augsburg Stadtarchiv Schätze 82 Reichsstadt 1553
  2. Anonymous Augsburg, Universitätsbibliothek - Cod.I.6.40.2 2nd half 15 th c
  3. Anonymous Augsburg, Universitätsbibliothek - Cod.I.6.20.4 1545
  4. Gregor Erhart von Augsburg Augsburg, Universitätsbibliothek - Cod.I.6.40.4 1533
  5. Jud Lew Augsburg, Universitätsbibliothek - Cod.I.6.40.3 approx. 1450
  6. Sigmund Schning(=Ringeck) Augsburg, Universitätsbibliothek - Cod.I.6.20.5 1539
  7. Hans Talhoffer Augsburg, Universitätsbibliothek - Cod.I.6.20.1 1561
  8. Jörg Wilhalm Augsburg, Universitätsbibliothek - Cod.I.6.40.5 1522
  9. Jörg Wilhalm Augsburg, Universitätsbibliothek - Cod.I.6.20.3 1522
  10. Jörg Wilhalm Augsburg, Universitätsbibliothek - Cod.I.6.20.2 1523
  11. Hans Talhoffer Berlin Kuperstichkabinett/Preusischer Kulturebesitz 78 A 15 1459 *
  12. Anonymous Berlin Staatsbibliothek Preu�ischer Kulturbesitz Libr. pict. A 83 before 1500
  13. Albrecht Dürer Breslau Universitatsbibliothek Cod. 1246 approx 1600-20
  14. Anonymous Donsaueschingen Furstenbergische Hofbibliothek Cod. 862 approx 1500
  15. Paulus Hector Mair Dresden Sächsische Landesbibliothek Mscr. Dresd. C 93/94 1542
  16. Sigmund Ringeck Dresden, Sächsische Landesbibliothek " Mscr.Dresd.C487 1st half 15th c.
  17. Ludwig von Eyb Erlangen, Universitätsbibliothek Ms. B 26 1500
  18. Hans Talhoffer Gottingen Niedersachische Staats/Universitätsbibliothek Philos. 61 end 17th c.
  19. Paulus Kal Gotha, Forschungsbibliothek Schlos Friedenstein Ms.Chart.B1021 1542
  20. Hans Talhoffer Gotha, Forschungsbibliothek - Ms.Chart.A558 1443 *
  21. Kreigverlust Gotha " Ms. membr. II 109 15th c.
  22. Hans Czynner Graz, Universitätsbibliothek - Ms.963 1538
  23. Anonymous Heidelberg Buch /Kunstantiquariat Dr. Helmut Tenner Hs. 'T' unknown
  24. Johannes Lecküchner Heidelberg, Universitätsbibliothek - Cod.Pal. Germ.430 1478
  25. Anonymous Köln, Historisches Archiv W* 150 approx. 1500
  26. Hans Talhoffer Königsweggwald, Gräfl. Schloss - Hs. XIX, 17-3 mid 15th c.
  27. Hans Talhoffer Copenhagen Det Kongelige Bibliotek Thott 290 2o 1459
  28. Anonymous Krakow Biblioteka Jagiellonski - Ms. Germ. Quart. 16 1st half 15th c.
  29. Anonymous Biblioteka Jagiellonski, Krakow - Ms. Germ. Quart. 2020 1510-1520
  30. Anonymous London Tower Museum I-33 14th c.
  31. Anonymous München, Bayerische Staatsbibliothek - Cgm 558 1462
  32. Paulus Kal München, Bayerische Staatsbibliothek - Cgm 1507 2nd half 15th c.
  33. Johannes Lecküchner München, Bayerische Staatsbibliothek - Cgm 582 1482
  34. Paulus Hector Mair München, Bayerische Staatsbibliothek - Cod. icon 393 before 1542
  35. Hans Talhoffer Munchen " Cod. icon 394a 1467*
  36. Hans Talhoffer München, Bayerische Staatsbibliothek - Cod. icon 394 copy of 394a.
  37. Hans Talhoffer Munchen " Cod. icon 395 copy-Gotha.
  38. Jörg Wilhalm München, Bayerische Staatsbibliothek - Cgm 3711 1522/1523
  39. Jörg Wilhalm München, Bayerische Staatsbibliothek - Cgm 3712 1556
  40. Hans Entner Nurnberg ------ Fragment (prior to 1562)
  41. Johannes Liechtenauer Nürnberg, Germanisches Nationalmuseum - Cod.ms.3227a 1389*
  42. Peter von Danzig Rom, Bibliotheca dell'Academica Nazionale dei Lincei e Corsiniana - Cod.44 A 8 (Cod. 1449) 1452
  43. Hans von Speyer Salzburg, Universitätsbibliothek - M.I.29 1491
  44. Hans Folz Weimar, Nationale Forschungs - und Gedenkstätten der klassischen Deutschen Literatur in Weimar - Zentralbibliothek der deutschen Klassik - Q566 1480
  45. Albrecht Dürer Wien, Albertina (Graphische Sammulung) - Hs. 26-232 1512*
  46. Anonymous Wien, Kunsthistorisches Museum - P 5013 1430
  47. Peter Falkner Wien, Kunsthistorisches Museum - P 5012 end 15th c.
  48. Paulus Kal (copy) Wien, Kunsthistorisches Museum - P 5126 end 15th c.
  49. Hans Talhoffer Wien, Kunsthistorisches Museum - P 5342 B mid 15th c.
  50. Anonymous Wein österreichische Nationalbibliothek - Codex Vindobonensis B 11093 15th c.
  51. Paulus Hector Mair Wein österreichische Nationalbibliothek - Codex Vindobonensis Palatinus 10.825/26 1542
  52. Hans Talhoffer Wien, österreichische Nationalbibliothek - Cod. Vindob. Ser. Nov. 2978 16th c.
  53. Anonymous Wolfenbüttel, Herzog Augustbibliothek - Cod Guelf. 78.2 Aug. 20. 15th c.
  54. Anonymous Wolfenbüttel, Herzog Augustbibliothek - Cod Guelf. 78.2 Aug. 40 1591
  55. Hans Talhoffer Wolfenbüttel, Herzog Augustbibliothek - Cod Guelf. 125.16 Extrav. 17th c

uninfluenced

"largely uninfluenced by Liechtenauer."

This is disputed by some. I don't know myself either way, but does anyone feel strongly about putting a qualifier on this? Sethwoodworth 03:58, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Revert of name change

This article uses a German title (while there is an English variant) and uses French and Italian translations in the article as well. Why did Matthead (talk · contribs) revert my move to an English title?Rex 10:29, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

because "Fechtbuch" is the term used in English. "Combat Manual" is just a literal translation, but nobody will know what you are talking about if you begin discussing "combat manuals". An understandable English title would have to be something like "Late Medieval to Early Modern European Fencing and Combat Manual", or, for short, "Fechtbuch". dab (𒁳) 10:34, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
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