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It is not so fair to portray a community or a group as slaves like those written in "Caste System In Kerala".It is very clear throughout the article that someone needs to glorify their caste status by portraying others as very lowest and even trying to compare them with Animals.I am pretty sure that there are certain guidelines for wikipedia to write articles with good manners whether it is sourced or unsourced. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.97.222.251 (talk) 17:21, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Please read WP:CENSORED. - Sitush (talk) 04:09, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

Please have a look , a fox pretending to be a sheep

Observed a recent edits to Moopil Nair and found that there are a numerous pov pushes . It's written as a Facebook post rather than a Misplaced Pages history article.

Also user User:Outlander07 is a Nair vandal.

His all edits are hisown edits and it's reverts done by himself only. For every 50 other edits he does a Nair pov push.

He is using multiple sock puppets accounts. Recent edits to Channar revolt and Mannanar are from the same IP he is using.

Look at Moopil Nair and other Nair related pages like Samantha Kshatriya and Kiryathil Nair. Here all these pages you can find a numerous POV pushes like vandalising the article by stating Nair are Kshatriyas ( actually shudras ).

Source doesn't cite anything written in these articles. Also Samantha Kshatriyas are kings of Kerala ,they hold the title Varma and not nair.they are not Nair.

I request you to look these pages

Moopil Nair

Kiryathil Nair

Samantha Kshatriya

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2402:3A80:12A2:3CD1:557B:CB9F:7074:22DC (talk) 12:53, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

First of all, let me tell you I am not into edit warring as you said above. Don't call me vandal as I hadn't done any kind of vandalism in wiki pages (No abuse from other users till now). We are using Dynamic IP and i have enough brain not to accuse you that you had done the disruptive edit as your IP series are shown in above said articles. I can even accuse you as a sock of Kalangot as your anonymous behaviour says so. Sitush The said OR and POV's in above Nair pages are not mine. I just reverted an edit on the article Moopil Nair and placed a citation tag on it . The above guy is still on British raj era calling names like Shudras and all. I can show the above guy doing disruptive edit in a sourced article saying "not in the source". The guy said above was correct I had made edits in Channar Revolt and Mannanar check the edit history and find out what I had done. I know the rules of Misplaced Pages as I'm a registered user, not an anonymous like above. Already left you a message on the talk page to make cleanup on the suspected disruptive edit pages. Please look into his statement "Also Samantha Kshatriyas are kings of Kerala, they hold the title Varma and not nair.they are not Nair" Last time he from other IP complained (How Dynasties comes under List of Nairs Page? Who cares?) He need the articles in his way if it is sourced or unsourced. Outlander07 14:02, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Numerous people have been edit warring. Thus far, I have stubbed Moopil Nair and Sambandham. Instead of fighting over stuff you think you know, I think you should all take a look at WP:V and WP:RS before working together to produce articles that follow our policies and guidelines. Ridiculous, all of you. - Sitush (talk) 15:14, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Please look into this, most likely the above anonymous guy doing ], ].Outlander07 15:56, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi,

Please check Samantha Kshatriya and see the above guy who accused me a vandal doing.. Outlander 04:01, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Diff as requested

My Village Pump (policy) comment. Ugh, I am sorry you're on mobile. Can you get it to switch to desktop view for each session? I am technically clueless, as you know, but Iridescent had some things to say about mobile access in a recent discussion on EEng's talkpage, including that Mediawiki will always serve up the mobile view and not save a preference for desktop view, but that one can switch on a per-session basis. Anyway, we are safe and well here so far, and I hope you and yours are, too. Yngvadottir (talk) 20:34, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

Yngvadottir, yes, it is possible to switch to the desktop version but you can imagine how much scrolling that involves for edit histories - one edit can wrap across several lines; worse now because of the relaxation on edit summary length. I am under instructions not to go out of the house - 14 weeks and counting! Thanks for the diff. - Sitush (talk) 07:15, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Objection on religion section of yadav article.

Respected editor, please note that 99.9999% of yadavs are in Hinduism so in section of religion only Hinduism should be written. Deokalimuskabad (talk) 01:06, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Dealt with at article talk. - Sitush (talk) 15:40, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Someone is in to disruptive edit

Hi,

Please have a look on the page Samantha Kshatriya. The very same IP Series who accused me as a vandal last week (check here ]) for reverting his edits is into disruptive edit. I'm not going to revert it. Thank You Outlander 08:26, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

I think someone else has reverted it. - Sitush (talk) 16:21, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

If you have time keep an eye on the page Caste system in Kerala some POV pushes are going on. Outlander 16:45, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

I must be jinxed. I looked at that article recently for the first time in ages & it seemed to be in reasonable shape. I will look again tomorrow - it could be that the people xisrupting here are also involved there. - Sitush (talk) 20:01, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Reverted to the mid-2017 version per my note on the talk page of 30 April. The thing had been affected badly by Nair POV pushers such as BreadBuddy. - Sitush (talk) 12:20, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Too many assholes

I've semiprotected this page for another three days. Bishonen | tålk 15:06, 9 June 2020 (UTC).

Ok, thanks. - Sitush (talk) 15:40, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

User:Muhammadahmad79

Said editor tried the same edit(s) back in April 2016. Is it time to notify an Admin? --Kansas Bear (talk) 19:05, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

I was thinking that. They are clearly out to prove a POV and are faking sources to do it. Same problem at Qutb Shah and poor edits at another article. They have also uploaded a copyvio image at Commons.- Sitush (talk) 19:10, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Brothers! I don't support the edits that happened back in April 2016. There was too much rubbish being published on the article. There was too much unsourced stuff and too much exaggeration of the stuff that was not even in the sources provided. Even at that time, In April 2016, I removed many edit coming from those unknown ips but one thing I believe is for sure and also known countrywide is that the Awan (tribe) is of Arab Origin, books are filled with it, and I think that mention of it should be in the article. I cited many credible and reliable sources, and sorry to say but I don't know why Sitush reverted my edits saying that the sources were unreliable (Every reliable source is not on Google Books). --Muhammadahmad79 (talk) 06:23, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

I left a note at Talk:Awan. You were using a website purportedly run by members of the tribe, sources from the British Raj era, self-published sources and at least one source (the Jaffrelot book) that says nothing at all about the point in question. I think you should review the information at WP:RS - you say that not everything is available on the web, but nor is everything reliable or even relevant. - Sitush (talk) 10:12, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Why the sources from British Raj are unreliable? Other sources stated were not all self published sources. There was a video source of Naseeruddin Naseer Gilani as well, it’s not recommended, but can be used as a supporting source. Muhammadahmad79 (talk) 10:39, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

User:Sitush/CasteSources. And we should not be using "supporting sources" in the sense you have used that term. - Sitush (talk) 12:44, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

With the latest evidence on the Talk:Awan showing that Muhammadahmad79 misrepresented a source, perhaps it is time to talk to an Admin.

So far, Muhammadahmad has received:

• 4 edit-warring warnings,,
• 2 removal of content warnings,
• 2 discretionary sanction notifications, ,
• AND has misrepresented at least one source,

Your thoughts Sitush? --Kansas Bear (talk) 18:45, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Yep. @Bishonen and Vanamonde93:, though Bish may already be trying to sort out an earlier ping re Deepcruze. - Sitush (talk) 18:55, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

A polite reminder, Sitush! Actually, I don't think I can handle that awkward Deepcruze, sorry. Let's hope User:RexxS saw your ping. Also, did you notice Deepcruze recently reverted User:Aman.kumar.goel's redirect of the pretty poor article Vandalism of Ambedkar statues? I have looked into Muhammadahmad79, though, and posted a topic ban warning. Bishonen | tålk 19:55, 13 June 2020 (UTC).

Thanks for the reminder, Chère. I'm sorry, I must have missed that ping about Deepcruze. I've now attended to that and left a note on their talk page. Please let me know – or take it straight to WP:AE – if things don't improve. Thanks for all your hard work, Si; it might not always be obvious, but there are lots of us who really appreciate it. --RexxS (talk) 20:47, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Me sitush

I would like a reply from u for reverting the changes I have done. Rimeg (talk) 11:30, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Which article? I usually give explanatory edit summaries. - Sitush (talk) 12:21, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Mr sitush ur very active on wikepdia ....I would like to discuss something on kapu page Rimeg (talk) 12:48, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

The source u have given on kapu stating shudra status only shows that reddy and kamma were different class than kapu kulana ( u can read it) and in kapu page u have edited that kamma branch of kapu and all so it's become confusing Rimeg (talk) 12:50, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

So atleast u can explain above that anceitly kapu name was given to a tribe and these castes branched of it while the caste kapu ur refering on this page is different . Rimeg (talk) 12:50, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Ok, sure, I will take a look at it. These conversations are better done on article talk pages, where everyone with an interest can see them. So, if anything needs to be done or explained I will post something there.- Sitush (talk) 13:34, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Religion in Kerala

Hi Sitush - I hope you are well.
At Religion in Kerala an editor is edit-warring (5 deletions today, so far) about one of the stories about St Thomas - he doesn't like one version so he is repeatedly deleting it. The section he is deleting is sourced to:-

1. "The Myth of Saint Thomas and the Mylapore Shiva Temple">Ishwar Sharan (2018). The Myth of Saint Thomas and the Mylapore Shiva Temple. New Delhi: Voice of India Publications.
2. "How christianity arrived in kerala through syrian immigrants". www.madrascourier.com. Retrieved 2017-08-25.

I am unfamiliar with either source - do you have an opinion on their likely reliability? (reliability for myths is rather a contradiction in terms) - Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 15:53, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi, how weird - I've just been trawling the history at Awan (tribe) and you're all over it! Nothing from Voice of India is reliable - they're a Hindutva front. I know nothing about the Madras Courier, sorry. - Sitush (talk) 16:29, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks - As I recall Awan (tribe) suffered from mass puffery and multiple additions of people a) without articles and b) with an article but no mention/reference of Awan in it - I'm not as strict as you for self-referencing - I'm becoming more (probably too?) lenient in my old age. Best wishes and thanks again - Arjayay (talk) 16:54, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Arain

I differs but respect your views. Did my comment at talk page providing this RS made you angry? Can I not suggest even a RS at talk page? ScholarM (talk) 19:28, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

That looks like a self-published book. Not a reliable source. Bishonen | tålk 19:44, 13 June 2020 (UTC).

I am not angry but I am incredibly frustrated at the moment with having to deal with so many liars, disrupters, glorifiers and incompetents at articles relating to subcontinental society. It is horrendous.

And, no, your source linked above is not reliable. See WP:SPS. - Sitush (talk) 19:48, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Rigvedic quotes on homosexuality

Would you mind taking a look at the recent editing history of Hinduism and LGBT topics and Homosexuality in India, and giving your thoughts? Further context can be found on my talk page. Hölderlin2019 (talk) 11:02, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi, I'm afraid I am not good on matters scriptural, regardless of which faith is being discussed. - Sitush (talk) 02:05, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Jadav are not Yadav ? Would you notice

The article stated that Ahir r also known as Yadav and even Jadhav in Northern India and Maharashtra respectively. Source - Population Geography: A Journal of the Association of Population Geographers of India, Volume 10, Issues 1-2"https://books.google.com/books/about/Population_Geography.html?id Thank you. Arun singh Yaduvanshi (talk) 20:31, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Source- https://books.google.com/books/about/Population_Geography.html?id=SQIzAAAAIAAJ Arun singh Yaduvanshi (talk) 20:32, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

The article has a link to Yadav. I am well aware that it can be a synonymous term and this was discussed at the recent WP:AFD. That discussion should be linked on the talk page.

You are welcome to improve the article but please do not usurp it in the Yadav cause. We have enough problems already with members of the Yadav community trying to bully us into ignoring our policies etc just to suit their power politics in states such as Bihar. - Sitush (talk) 02:10, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Can you please help

Hello , @Sitush , I'm RoboShutter from kerala , can you please help for review a article and remove the deletion request. Article Shakir Subhan , sincerly RoboShutter (talk) 08:25, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Kingdom of Jeypore

I'd really appreciate it if you could find a little time to review the quality of the sources in Kingdom of Jeypore. I stripped out all of the obvious Raj era ones today, but they do get put back or replaced by equally unsatisfactory ones. I have taken one of the editors to WP:AE and am now considering taking the other, so any independent views on the sourcing (and the general quality of the article) would be very useful. Thanks --RexxS (talk) 01:16, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

You've got to be kidding me - this can't be a real thing.--regentspark (comment) 01:37, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

Hmm. Looks like it did exist after all. Even survived an AfD. But you're right, it needs a lot of work. --regentspark (comment) 01:43, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

Looks like RegentsPark is dealing with it. Sources at present seem ok but I suspect some COI editing by/on behalf of the current "royal" court. I've removed some OR & vanity. - Sitush (talk) 04:12, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

VLS

Just been catching up with your work on VLS. Really careful good work, let’s hope the page starts to get a bit better now.

But be ready for a fight: VLS has used any number of sock puppets in the past, and seems determined that those who know the most about him (ie former collaborators) do not edit.

The history bears reviewing. Anything to do with his birth for example is clearly a sore point. Going back a bit further I found this version, also less than balanced though the other way, maybe it has things of use now that you have taken an interest:

https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Victor_Lewis-Smith&oldid=288489349

Good luck! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.146.83.158 (talk) 13:56, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Birha- spelling correction

A new page has been built about Biraha, which is a very popular folklore of Bihar and Uttar Pradesh. But I am mistaken that the spelling has gone wrong in the title of the article. The correct spelling of the article is 'Biraha' but I have missed 'a' in it . Help Arun singh Yaduvanshi (talk) 15:40, 21 June 2020 (UTC)