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Your post at WP:AN/I

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Shashi Tharoor

Regarding the SSB controversy best not to have it. His web page is referred by someone regarding his beliefs. I just read that page and it didn't say anything much.--PremKudva 05:03, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

OK thanks for your views. I'm still wondering about the inclusion of the Rationalist International material and its reputability as a source, but I guess these things have to be ironed out. Ekantik 00:18, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Sanathana Sarathi

I split the article into two. Wasn't the link in the approporiate article?. Kkrystian 24 October 16:54 (UTC+1)

Not as far as I could see, sorry. Ekantik 00:16, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. 21:50 12 Dec. 2006 Kkrystian (UTC+1)

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Image:Suman Ranganathan.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Suman Ranganathan.jpg. I notice the 'image' page specifies that the image is being used under fair use, but its use in Misplaced Pages articles fails our first fair use criterion in that it illustrates a subject for which a freely licensed image could reasonably be found or created. If you believe this image is not replaceable, please:

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Alternatively, you can also choose to replace the fair use image by finding a freely licensed image of its subject or by taking a picture of it yourself.

If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified how these images fully satisfy our fair use criteria. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on this link. Note that any fair use images which are replaceable by free-licensed alternatives will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. --Chowbok ☠ 20:00, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Done. Ekantik 17:44, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

I've responded on the talk page, sorry for the delay. As to your other question; I'm not an admin, so I can't delete anything. An admin will look at the photo and the talk page on or after the 24th and make a decision. —Chowbok ☠ 01:00, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Sathya Sai Baba article (link)

What exactly was wrong with my placing that link there? Please respond on my talk page. 19.11.2006 13:31 (UTC+1) Kkrystian

But this website was not critical of SSB. 20.11.2006 16:58 (UTC+1) Kkrystian

Consider enabling an email address. savidan 04:23, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Done. ekantiK

Shangri LaXin Zhong De Ri Yue

What does the article need?

It needs more information about what the subject is, what it is for, who created it, etc? For starters, what is Shangri La Xin Zhong De Ri Yue? Ekantik 05:32, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Oh I see, I'll work on it^^jackietang33 05:34, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Cathy L. Lanier

You put a speedy delete onto the page of Cathy L. Lanier even before I was finished creating the initial version! She was selected to become the first woman police chief for Washington DC. I note that her predecessor Charles H. Ramsey has a page. She is a notable authority on homeland security (which is partly why she was chosen, at age 39, to be chief). (Also, you left your comment on the talk page unsigned) -- Sholom 18:58, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi. I would like add that you seemed to have misused the speedy delete tag. Please note that the criteria for speedy deletion states that speedy deletes are for articles that do not "assert the importance or significance of its subject." This article clearly stated the importance of the subject as the incoming Washington D.C. police chief. If you disagree with her importance please note the following from the speedy delete criteria: "If the assertion is controversial or there has been a previous AfD, the article should be nominated for AfD instead." Feel free to nominate the article, but I seriously doubt it will result in a deletion. - Ektar 19:48, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Oh sorry. Newpage patrollers tend to be very fast. Sorry again. Ekantik 19:55, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Re article Holy Spirit School of Tagbilaran

Re expansion of Holy Spirit School of Tagbilaran, I have worked on it...still need to do more, but can you check for feedback? Thanks. Please answer in my talk page.Best regards. - Pinay06 22:30, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you so much! I know...there is still much to be done...Best of luck!--Pinay06 01:12, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

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Shahrukh Khan

Hello, Ekantik, I noticed your contributions to Shahrukh Khan's article and I have some questions regarding them:

• Why did you remove the citations for his announced movies and added movies to the filmography where he has no part in (like Krrish, where he is suppossed to play Krrish???)
• Why did you add to Economic Honours? The reference was added earlier (see here:http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Shahrukh_Khan&oldid=88632450) along with other references and then removed.
• Lots of references where removed in the process - why? I thought WP *likes* references. ;)

Best regards, --Plumcouch 08:57, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Hello PlumCouch, thanks for getting in touch with me about this. Here are my answers to your questions -

• The citation for one announced movie ("I See You") was sourced to a site that is an unreliable source (see WP:RS) and is not suitable in a Misplaced Pages article under WP:BLP guidelines. I didn't add any movies though, that must have been done by someone else.
• A citation is required for his qualification in Economics because the source for that information is similarly unreliable for reasons listed above. Under WP:BLP policies, unreliable sources cannot be used to provide information in Misplaced Pages. If Shah Rukh has graduated in Economics then it should be easy to find a reputable source that says so.
• Again for reasons listed above, references have to be reputable in accordance with WP:BLP. Many of the references were not reputable and so they were removed. To be specific, information found on online websites is generally unreliable. Exceptions to the rule include articles from Rediff and other sites which are online editions of printed publications. Also, common sense has to be employed because a lot of filmi information (even from reputable sources) are gossip, innuendo and speculation so editors must be judicious in selecting which material to include.
• I also removed lots of POV sentences and converted them to NPOV. I do not claim to be a perfect editor but hopefully I have brought the article to a standard that fits Misplaced Pages policies.

Best regards, Ekantik 01:39, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Hello Ekantik, I'm glad that you made shahrukh and indian actor. That's good. But Amitabh Bachchan still remains a very popular actor. Are you going to change that or what?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rainman0187 (talk • contribs) 16:36, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes I will, let me take a look at it. ekantiK 16:50, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

WP:BIO??

WP:BIO? Did you mean Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Hinduism? Thank you for the compliment on the mediation. Unfortunately, I became pressed with other matters and had to bow out, and the conflict eventually went to arbcom. I don't count it as a success story, although some things were resolved.

My comments on the Hinduism board were meant as a warning. Now that you are more familiar with the intesity and longevity of the conflict, I leave you to exercise your own judgement. I just didn't want a rush decision made without knowledge of the risk of disruption that may be involved. Feel free to discuss this with me further. Sincerely, --BostonMA 03:02, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject India Newsletter: Volume I, Issue 3 - December 2006

Project News Name change of cities in Karnataka: A straw poll was conducted on the proposal to change the name of cities in Karnataka, per the Nov 1, 2006 decision by the Karnataka government to rename them from the current anglicised forms. The result of the poll was to change the names. As controversial as the decision may be in the real world, the article Bangalore in Misplaced Pages still reflects the old name. You may be interested in knowing why. Dig the archives. New Project Noticeboard (Shortcut:WP:INB): WikiProject India now sports a new colourful centralised noticeboard. An effort to make the noticeboard current and dynamic was mooted a few days back, and Ganeshk came up with the new format. The new noticeboard will strive to be the one-stop shop for all project related information. The shortcut is WP:INB. Members List: The old members list is being phased out to give way for the new members list. New members are requested to add their names to the new members list. As the newsletter grows, further issues of the Project Newsletter will be delivered to those enlisted in the new list. So dash down now, to check if ur name is in there. What's New? Featured Content: Three articles (Chalukya Dynasty (nom), History of Tamil Nadu (nom) and Bengali language (nom)), one list (List of Indian ODI cricketers) and one picture (Prayer flag in the Kurgiakh valley in Zanskar contributed by Moumine (pictured)) were featured from our WikiProject recently. Congratulations to all contributors who helped to develop the above content to represent the best of Misplaced Pages! Need some help? Are you stuck at a point where admin help is needed? There are 22 Indian Administrators in Misplaced Pages at the last count. If you need some help with anything related to WikiProject India, they are just a couple of clicks away! Complete To Do List India-related tasks | Indian noticeboard v • e • d • h • w Requests: People: Bapudeva Sastri, Marimallappa, Ravichandran, Articles: Barak Missile Deal Scandal, Asura (band), Asian Variety Show, Cultural liberalism in India, Energy policy of India, India Export Tax, India Import Tax, Marimallappa High School, More... NPOV: Rajneesh, Khalistan, Ranjit Lal Jetley Hedgewar, Puttanna Kanagal, Indira Gandhi, More... Wikify: Railway stations, Mahavidwan R. Raghava Iyengar, More... Cleanup: caste system, Rampur, Tav-Prasad Savaiye, Shipping Corporation of India, More... Merge: Amber Fort,More... Expand: Ashoka Kumar Thakur vs. Union of India (Supreme Court Case) 14th Lok Sabha, Adithada, Ali Sardar Jafri, Bandhani work, But Marma Atti, Chikan (embroidery), China Town, Kolkata, Essar Shipping, Fair use, G. N. Naidu, Hinduism in India, Imperial Bank, Inbuan Wrestling, Integral humanism, Iran-India relations, Islam in India, Sunil Mittal More... Stubs: Indian Copyright Act, Anand Math, Andhra Bank, A R Antule, Arjuna award, Army of India, Bahujan Samaj Party, Bombay Dyeing, More... Translate: Marathi Misplaced Pages articles, Hindi Misplaced Pages articles, Sanskrit Misplaced Pages articles, Tamil Misplaced Pages articles Kannada Misplaced Pages articles Collaborate: Notice board, Collaboration of the Week, Category Adoptions To do, Version 1.0 assesment, India Portal, Life in India, India quick links Indian Wikipedians, Indian administrators More... Requested images: Major crops, Convert Image:Standard of the President of India.gif to SVG, Free image of Aarti Chhabria (See: Image:Aarti Chhabria.jpg and its talk page) Other requests: Add maps from WikiProject India Maps to articles of Indian regions found at List of regions in India v • e • d • h • w

Note from Editor's Desk Welcome to the December 2006 edition of our newsletter. Time flies past like matter into the black hole. It is interesting to notice that we are already into the last month for the year of 2006. 2006 saw discussions and development beyond realisation. In the world of Misplaced Pages where quality counts than quantity, we have come a long way. We've made better than 'nothing', to say the least, and even that is an achievement. I take this opportunity to thank everyone including those who have dotted the i's and crossed the t's. As before, we'd like to stress, this is your newsletter, and we want you to be part of it as well. Provide us with news tips. It can be anything related to the project, from discussions to calls for help, and other interesting stuff within our community. If you have received or given any barnstars recently, do let us know. Sponsored content for recruitments within your WikiProject sub-groups are also welcome. We'll be very happy to include them here. Before we sign off, Advance New Year Wishes, everyone. This edition special Assessment Department (Shortcut: WP:IN1): Are you one of those gnomes?? Or do you want to take some time off some brain-frying active editing on Misplaced Pages?? Then Department of Assessment within the WikiProject India will be your forte. The department consists of a group of wikipedians who work on rating the India related articles to check if they are worthy enough to be included in the CD (or print) version of Misplaced Pages. The rating process gains more significance as we try to sort out which articles and which topics need more attention to balance the India related systemic bias within wikipedia. As a thumb rule, anyone can rate any article based on the related criteria, within the Stub/Start/B/A levels. However, ratings for Good Article Status and Featured Article status go through the nomination processes. How to?: The "how to" part of assessment is very simple. Just head on to the talk page of any India related page and you'll find the {{WP India}} template. Simply classify the article based on the content and the criteria mentioned here. You can find the detailed instructions here. If you think it may qualify for GA/FA status, first consider submitting the article for peer review. Signed... Edited by Chez and distributed by Lostintherush

Rani's Page

Well, if you think the article reads like a resume, then why don't you fix it? I only reverted your edits because you removed ten references which I worked hard for and you reduced the length of the page. If you want it to read like a biography, fix it again but this time, don't remove any references. And if you do cut the length, find out about something else, add a new section to make it to the same length or more, be creative. Thanks! I think your edits were good, just don't remove my work on references. Restructure the sentences if you don't like them. Thanks. -User:shez_15

Unfortunately many of the references used are not in conformity with WP:RS, that is why they were removed. If any references violate WP:RS then they will have to be removed. Ekantik 01:30, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Neutral Editor?

Ekantik, can you please explain this edits by Gaurasundara: Refs: 01 02? Why are you using two names? For those who may not know, Gaurasundara is not a neutral party in the Sai Controversy and even attempted to get his profile deleted for some unknown reason . He is one of the most vocal opponents of Sathya Sai Baba on the internet (otherwise known as Sanjay Dadlani) and is notorious for his shameless defamations against him. Not only did Gaurasundara's first edit on his userpage come from Ekantik's page , Ekantik was the very first person to greet him . You need to come clean about your association with Gaurasundara and your alleged statements about being a neutral editor. SSS108 16:29, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry case

You have been accused of sockpuppetry. Please refer to Misplaced Pages:Suspected sock puppets/Ekantik for evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with notes for the suspect before editing the evidence page. SSS108 18:58, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Complaint about user:SSS108's behavior

I filed a complaint about user:SSS108 in which you are involved. See . Andries 17:17, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for letting me know about this. ekantiK 03:49, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

A section at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#re: Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Sathya Sai Baba has been started. - BanyanTree 07:20, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Good Job!

I loved your edits. I also helped you more to get rid of the resume tag and made a flow to the article with sentence structures. I hope you like it. Go see it! And now, guard the page, coz many people hate Rani and they will revert your edits and mine. Thanks! User:shez_15

Thank you very much. :) ekantiK 04:41, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Pseudoscience

Hope this helps. savidan 22:28, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Re:Rani Mukherjee edits

The bot only links to articles that exist in other languages. Once the other languages update the article name with the new name, the bot should link to the new names. DHN 02:47, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

A Proposition

Please read the proposition on the Sathya Sai Baba Talk Page. If you agree to it, please sign it. It is an effort to build good faith and resolve controversial issues on the talk page, rather than engaging in edit warring. Thanks. SSS108 18:58, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Done. Ekantik 01:26, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Request for arbitration

I have filed a request here to reopen the previous arbitration case regarding Sathya Sai Baba and related articles, as I believe there are serious ongoing problems with disruptive editing and personal attacks which were not addressed in the previous case. You may wish to add a comment of your own. Thatcher131 15:07, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for letting me know about this. Ekantik 02:14, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Controversy?

Dear Ekantik, I'm afraid that I'm always involved in controversies. I really should stick to dry-as-dust articles with no religious/ethnic/national/political implications :) These days, it's the articles on Purushottam Nagesh Oak and an acrimonious discussion at the Village Pump (policy) on the desirability of including caste info in Indian biographical articles. Bakasuprman et al. believe that I'm anti-Hindu. That's a strange charge to level against Bollywood-watching dal-eating me but ... I suppose it's like some US Republicans claiming that anyone who opposes them is anti-American and probably in the pay of Al Qaeda. (They'd hate me too; I have a jail record for demonstrating peacefully -- satyagraha -- against the Vietnam War.)

I'm convinced that a large part of the problem is structural. My own panacea is we should raise the bar on heavily edited articles. Say, once an article goes over 10,000 edits then you'd have to have been an editor for three months and done 2,000 edits before you could edit the article. People would have to earn the right to mouth off on controversial topics. It wouldn't shut down controversy (some opinionated and aggressive editors have high edit counts) but it would mute it somewhat. Zora 08:11, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Aww, sounds a bit tough. Yeah I agree that the bar for editing should be raised somewhat higher. Ekantik 04:14, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Subcategories related to SSB

Ekantik, what are you talking about ???? Kkrystian 12:40 (UTC+1) 25 Dec 2006

I'd like to know why you thought it would be useful for Misplaced Pages to divide Category:Sathya Sai Baba into further divisions of Sai devotees and Sai activists? Do you think that such a division is useful for Misplaced Pages? Ekantik 04:32, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

What is wrong with it? If there can be a category page with famous Muslims (Category:Muslims) than why can't there be a category page with famous followers (or opponents) of SSB. Moreover, I considered this division into subcategories useful because before in the Category:Sathya Sai Baba there were lots of meaningless names and when I grouped them into two subcategories it was at once clear who was pro-SSB and who was anti-SSB. I hope that helps. Kkrystian 11:21 (UTC+1) 26 Dec 2006

categories

When you move a proposal for a category rename to the category-deletion page, could you inform the proposer? It took me some time to discover that my proposal hadn't simply been deleted, and to uncover where it had been moved. The notice on the category page had not been changed either. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 00:19, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Hello Mel, I'm afraid I have no idea what you are talking about? I didn't move anything to the best of my knowledge? Ekantik 04:32, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Aha, I have just seen that it was done by Kkrystian. Ekantik 04:32, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Sorry; I jumped to conclusions as a result of being tired and in a hurry. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 10:05, 26 December 2006 (UTC)