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Kiteinthewind, I just noticed your message. No worries. I still have work to do on this article and it will be improved. --Governor Sheng (talk) 21:54, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

Catholic Vs Roman Catholic Church

Just a question. I am curious as to why you see the need to change the popes and saints from Roman Catholic to Catholic. It appears that the wording was consistent across multiple articles. I fear that we may end up with a mixture. Krj373 18:17, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

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	It is my pleasure to present you with the Writer's Barnstar for your work rewriting Pope Miltiades. Your contributions are excellent and the article is much improved for your efforts. Thank you, keep up the excellent work! Mifter (talk) 18:16, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

@Mifter, thank you very much. It means a lot. :) --Governor Sheng (talk) 19:55, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

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Display name 99, thank you. I'll get to work. :) --Governor Sheng (talk) 23:04, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

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Wanted to thank you for the Sheng Shicai article

I've always been interested in Sheng Shicai and the Xinjiang clique but have never been able to find any good information on him. I wanted to thank you for all the edits you made to his page. Grngu (talk) 01:07, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

Grngu,it's my pleasure. :) --Governor Sheng (talk) 14:32, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

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On 30 January 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Pope Miltiades, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Edict of Milan, an agreement between Constantine and Licinius to treat the Christian Church peacefully, was issued during the pontificate of Pope Miltiades? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Pope Miltiades. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Pope Miltiades), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Rothschild loan to the Holy See

Thank you for your comment. The only problem with bringing it to GA status is, I am not 100% sure about how exactly the Vatican got out of dept and paid off the loan (this happened around 1870 I think). This aspect would have to be researched more before it could become a GA. Claíomh Solais (talk) 21:19, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

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Hello. After your edits on the pages with the results of the Croatia national team, there's now a page for each decade, except that all matches from 1940 to 1999 are covered in a single page. Why not split the latter into a separate page for the 1940s plus that 1956 match vs Indonesia, and another one for the 1990s? Not only would this more or less preserve the general decades-based listing pattern, but also that hiatus from 1956 to 1990 is a much more natural boundary than a simple turn of a decade, so it's an appropriate point where a list should end and another should begin. And also, the 1940s-1950s page could then include some background information about the political incarnations of Croatia during that time. What do you think? --Theurgist (talk) 15:07, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

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Our Lady of Medjugorje‎

Hello - Your edits on this page are lacking the name of the book you used, the publisher, year it was written and author. Also you need to use the format for references for a book. Please correct or I will need to revert your edits. Red Rose 13 (talk) 05:24, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, but the book is mentioned. Under the footnotes, you'll find the name of the author. Once you click on that, it will refer you to the book used. The book is listed under the References/Books chapter. Example: . I hope I explained the issue. --Governor Sheng (talk) 05:41, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Your recent edits on this page did not include a collaboration with other editors, you added too much wording to your references, your references are not complete per wiki guidelines and there is no way to look them up with only the author listed. I am asking you to revert your edits and bring the changes you want to make to the talk page. I tried to revert your edits all at once but was unsuccessful. If you don't, I will need to delete each edit one by one and take to the talk page. Your choice. Red Rose 13 (talk) 18:10, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

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Happy to see you're expanding the content of this article. -- llywrch (talk) 16:28, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

Thank you! :) --Governor Sheng (talk) 18:40, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

I was on a trip for a few days. Just to inform you I'm back. --Governor Sheng (talk) 10:44, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Governor Sheng, I've been thinking about this article. The major problem I see with it is that it needs a lot of background information to explicate the significance of the death of Sheng Shiqi. However, the article about his brother, Sheng Shicai is far more detailed & provides a very informative window into the politics of China of this period. With far less work that article could easily be made into GA than the one on Sheng Shiqi. Moreover, any additional research required to bring Shicai to GA could be reused to improve the one on Shiqi. I'm happy to work with you further on this article, but IMHO the one on Shicai would render you much more satisfaction -- & in the long run benefit Misplaced Pages more. -- llywrch (talk) 04:36, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

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Herzegovina Affair and Medjugorje

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As for Medjugorje, here are some articles that can help: https://en.wikipedia.org/Template:Our_Lady_of_Medjugorje

The Affair has to do with the following:

1) Medjugorje experiences a war, Francican friar priests (henceforth "friars") take over dioceses for the imprisoned bishops, with said bishops' permission, so the dioceses aren't lost to war

2) War ends, bishops get out of prison and ask friars to restore the dioceses to them, but friars refuse because they committed child sex abuse and know the victims will come forward if the diocese are restored to the bishops

3) Bishops appeal to the Pope, Pope asks friars to restore dioceses, but friars refuse

4) Pope writes Romanis Pontificibus, ordering the friars to restore the dioceses

5) Friars refuse, now committing schism (refusal to submit to the Pope) and breaking their vow of obedience to the Pope. Schism and vow breaking are sins (but one can be dispensed from a vow by the Pope). One who vows to obey the Pope must obey him as he would the Lord, unless the Pope orders someone to commit sin, in which case, the person is obliged to disobey the Pope (civil disobedience). Also, schismatic Catholic are still subject to the Pope until the Pope says otherwise.

6) Restoring dioceses to bishops is a matter of faith and virtue. By faith, a bishop is a steward of a diocese, as a vicar of Christ, because Christ is the real owner of a diocese, as the head of the Church. Bishops make a vow to obey Christ, which includes being a steward of a diocese. If bishops did not ask friars for dioceses back, they'd be committing sin; but because they did ask, they practiced virtue.

7) Pope excommunicates friars for disobeying him despite their vows. Excommunication means a priest cannot celebrate sacraments, except for a grave reason (a priest may baptize or hear the confession of a dying person). To violate excommunication is a sin.

8) Friars celebrate sacraments despite excommunication.

9) Fr. Vlasic is moved to Medjugorje (as punishment) after he has sex with a nun and she fathers his child (she couldn't hide her pregnancy, so what Vlasic did became known and nun is kicked out of her religious order), Vlasic becomes spiritual director of the parish of Medjugorje. Spiritual directors give moral advice regarding Christian life, such as how one is to treat an apparition.

10) Medjugorje apparitions happen. Vlasic manipulates the visionaries into claiming the Medjugorje apparitions said the friars can celebrate sacraments despite excommunication. Depending on your interpretation, this means the apparitions are either ignorant of the excommunication (Mary cannot err because God speaks through her, and God is perfect), or lied or is approving of the friars' schism (Mary cannot lie or approve of sin because she is sinless, and lying and approval of sin are sins in themselves). The excommunication was not in error, because the friars really did disobey the Pope, so the apparition cannot be calling for civil disobedience.

11) Victims of child sex abuse come forward to civil government, who try and imprison some of the friars

12) Vlasic manipulates visionaries into claiming the apparitions said he (Vlasic) is innocent of having sex with a nun and that the friars are innocent of child sex abuse

I know more about the Medjugorje apparitions than the Affair, mind you. In fact, there's an interesting comparison to be made between Medjugorje and Kibeho. At Kibeho, Mary appeared to some children, who experienced ecstasy during the apparitions. There is video of these ecstasies on Youtube. Youtube also has video of the Medjugorje visionaries experiencing ecstasy during apparitions. However, there's a differnce between the two. At Kibeho, the children show all the signs of ecstasy: rolled back eyes (as if asleep), focus on something invisible in front of them, stiff body movement, and superhuman knowledge (knowing who gave them rosaries, etc.). At Medjugorje, none of these signs appear during the ecstasies. So, in light of this ecstasy comparison and in light of the Affair, it's safe to say the apparitions of Medjugorje are a hoax.

Oct13 (talk) 11:55, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

• • Are you an expert on how a person having a vision of Mary should look or act? No? I didn't think so. Your comments I notice have not one factual reference and so it appears as personal opinion or a leaning which is not acceptable on Misplaced Pages. I have seen people in ecstasy and their eyes are closed. The visionaries all were looking at something invisible in front of them & above them and would be talking with her but no one could hear what they were saying. They are obviously awake and focused on Mary. She is communicating with them. Perhaps the children in Kibeho were not conversing but had a different role. Red Rose 13 (talk) 18:37, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Missing cites

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Also references to "Pandžić 2001" and "Šarac 2009" in Paškal Buconjić. I would suggest you add a script (see instructions at Category:Harv and Sfn no-target errors) to highlight these errors so that they can be avoided going forward. Thanks, Renata (talk) 06:55, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

Also "KTA" and "Vecernji" in Petar Palić. And references to Whiting & Sheng, p. 13, Whiting & Sheng 1935, p. 14, and Sheng 1936 in Sheng Shicai. And references to Brophy 2016 and Tunces 2019 in Mahmut Muhiti. Renata (talk) 07:11, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

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• Diannaa there are current copyright issues going on in this article. Red Rose 13 (talk) 18:39, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

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I'm still working on the article. --Governor Sheng (talk) 11:13, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

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However, some popes after the schism were described as "bishop of Rome". That is fixed now. --Governor Sheng (talk) 02:01, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

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Thank you very much, that is helpful. I'll start working on the article very soon. --Governor Sheng (talk) 19:01, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

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LOL. Sorry. I didn't know that. --Governor Sheng (talk) 23:34, 22 October 2020 (UTC)