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Dear Wikipedians,

The changes to the article "Bessarabia" made at 19:46 on 30 Jan 2005 have nothing to do with vandalism. Their purpose is to make the article to conform the NPOV policy. If you do not agree, let us start a discussion, but do not merely revert the changes.

• First of all, you should "Log In", so you can sign your statements and all your changes will show with the same ID.--AAAAA 12:28, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)
• Secondly, the information you deleted is factual, unless you have information to the contrary. Instead of just deleting, you should try to ADD more information, if you think the article needs more balance.--AAAAA 12:28, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Dear AAAAA, you write an ecyclopedia article on Bessarabia, not an article on anti-Semitism or on Jewish history.

If anybody would "try to ADD more information" to balance what you have written, this would make the article too large and unsuitable for wikipedia. This is an encyclopedia article, not a monography on the history of Bessarabia, after all.

There is no such a rule, that the balance should be reachet only by adding information, not by deleting it.

The NPOV policy is obligatory for everybody who edits the article. It is not normal, if somebody makes obviously biased articles and other wikipedians have to correct this.

Regards,

AndriyK

BTW, just noticed that there were some quotes involved. AFAIK, the policy is to put them in wikiquote http://en.wikiquote.org/Bessarabia and then link it here. Bogdan | Talk 13:44, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Oh, and it would also be nice that the history part to be re-written as a text, not as a timeline and the population data to be moved to their own section. I'll do this myself when I'll get some free time.13:44, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

To AAAAA: You may consider writing a separate article "History of Jews in Bessarabia" or something like this. So you can publish all the facts about Jews in Bessarabia without making the original article "Bessarabia" biased and strange-looking.

Regards,

Andriy

Dear Jpgordon, There is a special article on the Kishinev pogrom. Is it necessary to repeat it here? I think a short mentioning with a link woud be sufficient.

Regards,

Andriy

That was too short. I've made it a reasonable length now, significantly shorter than before. Jayjg 20:38, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Jewish community

If you add information about Jewish comunity, you should add comparable pieces of information about Moldavians(Romanians), Ukrainians, Bulgarians, Germans, Gagauz and Russians. Otherewise the article looks unbalanced in contradiction to the NPOV policy. Note that the majority in Bessarabia are Moldavians(Romanians).

Removal of information is inadmissible. The problem of balance is related to opinions, not to facts. You are free to add info about Gagauz. Mikkalai 19:38, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)

In would suggest you to make a separate article on Jewish comunity in Bessarabia and cross-link the pages.

A reasonable idea, but you should have done it yourself instead of deletion. Mikkalai 19:38, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Restoring your deletion. Mikkalai 19:38, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Moldavia, Bessarabia, SSR Moldoveneasca and Moldova

there are 3(+1) articles about same region. perhaps the history of Bessarabia should begin in 1812, anything before that date should be linked to Moldavia, anything after 1918 should be linked to Romania, anything about a jewish Pogrom should link to the Pogrom article, anything about "Anything Remarcable, Requiring a Separate Dedicated Article", should be linked to an "Article on Important Things that Deserve Writing About Them and Hapened in Bessarabia" -- Criztu 20:08, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Bessarabia is not identical to Moldavia or SSR Moldoveneasca. Southen and Nothen Bessarabia belong to the Ukraine. Andriy