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| The article contains information that L.D.Landau was born in the Russian Empire. | The article contains information that L.D.Landau was born in the Russian Empire. | ||
| So you do not loos any information removing "Russian" from the first sentence. | So you do not loos any information removing "Russian" from the first sentence. | ||
| Please do revert. | Please do not revert. --] 12:51, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC) | ||
| : Please sign your posts by typing four tildas like this <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> | : Please sign your posts by typing four tildas like this <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> | ||
| : Please do not confuse ethnicity with relationship to a country. See the definition of ], particularly the last entry in the definition. If anyone would follow your logic, there would be no American people at all, because almost everyone there is an emmigrant. As for Landau, he was born in the Russian Empire, spoke Russian, lived in Moscow, died in Moscow, rests in Moscow. Looks like ] applies to him. --] 12:07, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC) | : Please do not confuse ethnicity with relationship to a country. See the definition of ], particularly the last entry in the definition. If anyone would follow your logic, there would be no American people at all, because almost everyone there is an emmigrant. As for Landau, he was born in the Russian Empire, spoke Russian, lived in Moscow, died in Moscow, rests in Moscow. Looks like ] applies to him. --] 12:07, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC) | ||
| Everybody knows what means "American". In contrast "Russian" can be interpreted differently: | |||
| It can mean "ethnic Russian". | |||
| It can mean "citizen of Russia (after 1991)" | |||
| It can mean "citizen of the Russian Empire (before 1917)". | |||
| To avoid any confusion it should be clear from the context, or explained explicitely, what this word | |||
| means in every particular case. | |||
| If you say: "Landau was Russian" and then you continue: "He was born in the Russian Empire", most of the readers would interpret this as "Landau was ethnic Russian and he was barn in the Russian Empire". So you text would be misunderstood. You should avoid such things in writing for wikipedia. | |||
| The Landau's relation to Russia is described quite clearly in the article. The word "Russian" in the firs sentence gives no additional information but can cause a confusion. | |||
| If you would like to add information about Landau's spoken language etc., you are free to do it. --] 12:51, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC) | |||
Revision as of 12:51, 4 February 2005
Please do not call Russian everybody who was born in the Soviet Union or the Russian Empire! People can consider it as neglecting their true ethnic identity. It may offend people.
The word "Russian" may be misinterpreted by the reader. It is not clear what it means in this context: citizenship or ethmicity. The article contains information that L.D.Landau was born in the Russian Empire. So you do not loos any information removing "Russian" from the first sentence. Please do not revert. --AndriyK 12:51, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Please sign your posts by typing four tildas like this ~~~~
- Please do not confuse ethnicity with relationship to a country. See the definition of Russian, particularly the last entry in the definition. If anyone would follow your logic, there would be no American people at all, because almost everyone there is an emmigrant. As for Landau, he was born in the Russian Empire, spoke Russian, lived in Moscow, died in Moscow, rests in Moscow. Looks like Russian applies to him. --Gene s 12:07, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Everybody knows what means "American". In contrast "Russian" can be interpreted differently: It can mean "ethnic Russian". It can mean "citizen of Russia (after 1991)" It can mean "citizen of the Russian Empire (before 1917)". To avoid any confusion it should be clear from the context, or explained explicitely, what this word means in every particular case.
If you say: "Landau was Russian" and then you continue: "He was born in the Russian Empire", most of the readers would interpret this as "Landau was ethnic Russian and he was barn in the Russian Empire". So you text would be misunderstood. You should avoid such things in writing for wikipedia.
The Landau's relation to Russia is described quite clearly in the article. The word "Russian" in the firs sentence gives no additional information but can cause a confusion.
If you would like to add information about Landau's spoken language etc., you are free to do it. --AndriyK 12:51, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)