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:Aww...Thanks! I am feeling much better now. Full recovery will probably take 5 months, but things should mostly be back to normal for me within a week. I do appreciate the gesture of kindness. And I hope that you're feeling well yourself. ''''']''''' 🌀 (]) 02:42, 24 January 2021 (UTC) :Aww...Thanks! I am feeling much better now. Full recovery will probably take 5 months, but things should mostly be back to normal for me within a week. I do appreciate the gesture of kindness. And I hope that you're feeling well yourself. ''''']''''' 🌀 (]) 02:42, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

== Stop posting nonsensical warnings ==

No attacks there. Try better next time.—] (]) 04:26, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

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  2. Mediterranean Tropical Cyclones
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  7. 2006 Central Pacific cyclone
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Posted by: 174.65.96.212 (talk) 06:24, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

TC/Winter Storms Websites links

  1. JMA Marine warnings Obtained from: Jason Rees (talk) 18:38, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
  2. Mediterranean Sea Surface Weather Analysis Maps - version 1 Posted on: September 20, 2017
  3. Mediterranean Sea Surface Weather Analysis Maps - Color version Posted on: September 20, 2017.
  4. NOAA Ocean Coverage Satellite Imagery Posted on: December 10, 2014.
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My Sandboxes

  1. December 2004 North American storm complex (Open to editing.)
  2. February 2005 North American Superstorm (Open to editing.)
  3. January 2010 North American Superstorms (Now a mainspace article.)
  4. December 2010 North American Superstorm (Also known as Windstorm Benjamin of the 2011 European Windstorm season.)
  5. June 2011 North American winter storm (Open to editing.)
  6. December 2012 North American storm complex (Open to editing.)
  7. Tropical Storm Thirteen (2011) (An interesting system that was identified as a tropical storm, only later in the post-season analysis of the NHC.)
  8. Tropical Storm Rolf (The first officially monitored Mediterranean tropical cyclone. Now a mainspace article.)
  9. Cyclone Julia (The first observed hurricane-strength Mediterranean tropical cyclone in the 2010s. Users are welcome to make constructive contributions to this page.)
  10. January 1862 North American Megastorm
  11. Superstorm (This page needs a lot of improvement. Users are welcome to help fix up this article.)
  12. Super Typhoon (This page needs plenty of expansion and additions of references. Users are welcome to contribute positively.)
  13. Winter Storm Titan (2014) (Now a mainspace article.)
  14. March 2014 North American Superstorm (Now a mainspace article.)
  15. Cyclone Katrina–Victor–Cindy (Open to positive editing.)
  16. Cyclone Stephanie (2016) (Open to positive editing.)
  17. Potential Tropical Cyclone Ten (2017) (Open to constructive editing.)
  18. LightandDark2000's notable storms
  19. Bionicle Super Chapter Books (Open to constructive editing.)

Posted by: LightandDark2000 (talk) 20:10, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Anyone is welcome to comment or make suggestions to me on the talk pages of the corresponding "sandboxes." I am also considering developing some of those sandboxes further to eventually move them into Misplaced Pages mainspace. If you believe that a sandbox is ready to become a mainspace article, please inform me on my talk page first so I can make any necessary changes before the move. LightandDark2000 (talk) 20:47, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

A Barnstar for you!

The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
Dear LightandDark2000, you have been editing Misplaced Pages for several months now, and I noticed that in your contributions, you often revert vandalism, surprisingly without a wiki account! You deserve the Anti-Vandalism Barnstar, for all your efforts. But I noticed that you often attack users who vandalize pages. Please warn them only when they commit more than one acts of vandalism, and be polite and welcoming to the new users. Thank You. I award you this Barnstar, so that you can be a better Wikipedian! Keep up the good work! Earth100 (talk) 12:32, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
Thanks! And don't worry, I'm improving. I now have a username up and running. (PS, I don't attack IPs. I just get sick of it whenever they cause a lot of trouble (even if it is only one edit, due to my past "experiences" with them), or if they persistently continue to vandalize. My warnings may sound harsh to them, but when vandalists refuse to stop, they have it coming. LightandDark2000 (talk) 19:23, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

I understand, and that's okay. If you do create an account, don't forget to move your awards to your user homepage too! I bet you will be a great anti-vandal user! Earth100 (talk) 02:50, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Sockpuppet Masters Information

IPhonehurricane95 Information

IP Range of IPhonehurricane95 - Based on the IPs that I found, I have calculated a new range for this notorious Sockmaster. LightandDark2000 (talk) 06:13, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

I added the IP range of this notorious sockpuppeter to this page, just in case it comes in handy. LightandDark2000 (talk) 22:13, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

IP Range: 0.0.0.0/0. These are the IP ranges that he has been known to abuse: IPv4 Ranges: 66.87.64.0/18, 192.0.0.0/3, 116.48.192.0/20, 42.0.0.0/9, 68.0.0.0/7, 168.0.0.0/5, 1.202.120.0/21, 64.0.0.0/4, 124.127.64.0/20, 50.0.0.0/8, 65.50.192.0/19, 93.114.40.0/21, 75.127.0.0/20, 192.241.128.0/17, 205.186.128.0/18, 66.117.0.0/20, 192.241.128.0/17.

IPv6 Ranges: 2600:100f:b000::/39, 2602:304:af2c::/48, 2602:304:6e02::/48, 2602:304:ce27::/48, 2600:1000:b000::/36, 2600:1010:b120::/44, 2602:30a:2e3e:e400::/64, 2600:100d:b000::/42, 2002:da5c:fc19::/64, 2600:1013:b000::/44, and 2600:1:f440::/44 (also abused by other LTAs).

List of User:IPhonehurricane95 socks. Added by: LightandDark2000 (talk) 06:53, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Apparently, all of those sock users originated from User:IPhonehurricane95 (including User:Typhoonwikihelper). I would not be surprised if he creates a new account, or switched to a different IP to continue vandalizing Misplaced Pages. LightandDark2000 (talk) 06:53, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

User:IPhonehurricane95 Sockpuppet investigations Any and all future investigations related to this guy, and his socks should all be on this page. LightandDark2000 (talk) 19:46, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

IP Range contributions

IPv4 IP Range Calculator

Simple Range Calculator – Works for both IPv4 and IPv6 Addresses. Posted by: LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 08:45, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Update: In mid-August 2014, he apologized, at my talk page on Commons! I know how rare that is, but ever since he made that apology, he hasn't made one disruptive edit on Misplaced Pages ever since!

-It's unfortunate that IPh95 returned to sock afterward. I don't know if he is still socking right now (or plans to), but I hope that he can finally end this disruptive behavior for good. LightandDark2000 (talk) 08:24, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Other Sockmasters

User:Hurricane Luis Sockpuppet investigations Keeping a close eye on User:Hurricane Luis for his suspected involvement in the recent persistent sockpuppetry on Tropical Cyclone-related articles on Misplaced Pages. Update: It turns out that Hurricane Luis is innocent, but most of the other named accounts are obviously all related and abused by 3 different sockmasters. See the SPI archives of the linked page for more details. LightandDark2000 (talk) 10:07, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

109.155.240.0/20 - User:Mr Wiki Pro's IP Range. See his SPI investigations case page for more information on his current socking activities. LightandDark2000 (talk)

-Note: Mr Wiki Pro quit sockpuppeteering in Summer 2015, and has since returned to contribute under a new username. LightandDark2000 (talk) 04:43, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

Current Lightning Sabre (UnderArmourKid sockfarm vandal) IP Ranges (not all are listed): 201.219.232.0/21, 168.196.200.0/22, 45.232.32.0/22, 190.100.144.0/20, 190.107.228.0/22, and 190.163.32.0/21 (not as active). Ranges are current as of February 2018. See UnderArmourKid sockpuppet investigations for current and recent SPI cases involving this sockmaster. Also see UAK's LTA report for more information on his behavioral patterns. A note to new admins or users: this guy appears to admire IPhonehurricane95's vandalism, and has even based his sockfarm on an earlier IPh95 sock: User:UnderArmourKid. Also, if you check his edits, you will see that his vandalism and unblock threats are very similar to some of IPh95's vandalism from 2014 and 2016. Their editing interests also overlap in tropical cyclones and some other apparel companies, so make sure to check those articles often. LightandDark2000 (talk) 19:51, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Current Vandyrandy IP Ranges: 174.199.0.0/18, 97.33.64.0/20, and 2600:1000:B000::/36. Given this vandal's history of persistent cross-wiki abuse and personal attacks, the ranges need to be Globally Rangeblocked for multiple months each time they are abused. Vandyrandy is also known to use proxy IPs, which should be Globally Rangeblocked if spotted. See Vandyrandy sockpuppet investigations for SPI cases involving this LTA. It should be noted that this user is known for Neo-Nazi vandalism and ideology. LightandDark2000 (talk) 06:33, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Current TryToBeFunny IP Ranges: 176.221.96.0/19 and 2600:6C64:617F:F8EB::/64. The first IP range also appears to be an open proxy network. TrytoBeFunny/BlyatPutin is known for creating spambot accounts, and repeatedly spamming multiple Misplaced Pages articles with spam categories, spam text, or spam-only templates (created by the LTA), in addition to adding obscenities. Since this user's spamming involves cross-wiki abuse, any rangeblocks enacted will need to be Global Rangeblocks. LightandDark2000 (talk) 07:23, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Current Black magic specialist Spammer LTA IP Ranges: 117.119.0.0/16, 117.200.0.0/16, 117.201.0.0/16, 106.192.192.0/19 (not as frequently used), and 2600:8800:3981:7A80:0:0:0:0/64 (not used often). Note that the network provider uses the entire range of 117.192.0.0/10. See this linked report at SRG and next 3 related reports on the page below that one, for an idea of the extent of the abuse by this spammer. In short, this LTA is known for spamming, and mass socking/spambot creation across multiple Wikimedia sites. LightandDark2000 (talk) 08:11, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Re: Help.

You can either ask an administrator like Hurricanehink or go to Misplaced Pages:Requests for page protection. Jason Rees (talk) 13:31, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! LightandDark2000 (talk) 00:10, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

The Weather Channel and Winter Storm naming

If you plan on introducing the two articles you have in your userspace then you need to get consensus first before adding TWC names. Right now consensus has been not to include them as they are not a WP:NPOV. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 21:20, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

Okay. I understand. That's why the articles are currently in my userspace. LightandDark2000 (talk) 00:28, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
Okay thanks! I value the amount of work you have put into the articles and love the idea of adding more storms but TWC names and terms like "Super-storm" and such have caused multiple discussions here on Misplaced Pages. If you do choose to start another discussion about the issues to get a recent consensus just ping me. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 01:46, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
Alright. The problem with those terms is that most people really don't understand their true meanings, or the real intent of the TWC's winter storm naming. But yes, I'll continue to contribute and add more info as time passes. LightandDark2000 (talk) 02:41, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Just a welcome to the WikiProject

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Hi, LightandDark2000. I noticed that you have edited some articles in the Tropical Cyclones WikiProject and trying to save them and make them good. So, I believe that you should be in the group, even though you like Science, same as me actually. I have joined you now and I know that you will help Misplaced Pages. Have a good day. Typhoon2013 (talk) 08:11, 28 March 2014 UTC

Thanks! I am more than happy to accept. LightandDark2000 (talk) 07:12, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

A beer for you!

So sorry to hear that you've been harassed by User:Mr Wiki Pro's newest sockpuppet. You're not alone. He's been doing the EXACT same things to me! Hang in there; keep reporting him every time he makes his presence known, if he's not blocked by then. Meanwhile, here's a beer to cheer you up!  :) —This lousy T-shirt— (talk) 06:31, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. I don't drink in real life, but here, I'll accept. :) ;) LightandDark2000 (talk) 06:32, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
Heh heh. Oh I'm sure he'll get reblocked (yep, each and every stinkin' time). I just hope that he doesn't stick around long enough to cause any serious damage. ;) LightandDark2000 (talk) 06:37, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Re: barnstar

Thanks so much! I'm glad you've taken to the site, and you continue to do good work. If you ever need any help with anything, I check my watchlist once every five minutes :P ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:56, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

You're welcome. If I have any questions or concerns, I will come and ask you for help. Thanks ;) LightandDark2000 (talk) 09:59, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
Oh, by the way, Happy Easter! ;) LightandDark2000 (talk) 11:23, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the new barnstar! :) Don't think that because I'm editing less that I'm going anywhere. I'm just incredibly busy with my music work (as I warned on my user page, hehe). September, I'll be getting lots more work done, I promise! Thanks again, and keep up the editing yourself. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:38, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Hey, just keep up with the contributions, alright? I mean, it's understandable if you're busy with your music, but just drop by whenever you have the chance. Misplaced Pages is in terrible need of Wikipedians like you. LightandDark2000 (talk) 03:40, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
Aww :) Thanks! I'm always around though. I've tried too many times to leave to know that I'll never do so. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:46, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
That's similar to how I used to be when I was still an IP editor. ;) But eventually, I decided to stick around, and I quickly took on my user account as my primary mode of contributing. LightandDark2000 (talk) 03:48, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

User page cleanup

LightandDark2000, thank you for removing personal information from a userpage, which I'm not linking, but please be sure to make a report per the instructions here if you find anything like that again. Be sure to look at the instructions there for what should and what shouldn't be reported, though. This one doesn't need to be reported because I've already taken care of it. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 13:15, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

You're welcome. As for the reporting part, I didn't know about that. LightandDark2000 (talk) 02:17, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Comment at May 2014 San Diego County wildfires

Hi, Lightand Dark! I'll make this comment here at your talk page, instead of the article's talk page, so that you can delete it and it won't become part of the permanent record. First of all, calm down; no one has attacked you or accused you of vandalism. However, as long as we are reminding each other of Misplaced Pages principles, could I request you to learn how to cite references as references, instead of as bare urls? I have been fixing them to put them into normal Misplaced Pages style, but that's something you should learn to do as well. The easiest way to do that is to click the "cite" button in the row of links at the top of the edit page, choose a format (such as "news" or "web"), and fill in the blanks (for news, at a minimum "url", "title", "publication date" and "newspaper" which can also mean TV station or whatever). Then position your cursor at the point in the article where you want the reference to go and click "add citation". That's important! If you forget to click "add citation" before previewing or saving, the information will be lost and you will have to do it again. Thanks. --MelanieN (talk) 13:15, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I don't have all that much time to create a full citation each time I link a reference, and even when I do, it doesn't always turn out the right way. Hopefully, I'll be able to improve on my citation skills. :) LightandDark2000 (talk) 01:45, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

A cheese wheel for you!

A hard-earned cheese wheel of the finest quality
Enjoy this cheese wheel for your hard work fighting vandalism.... you've earned it! Dustin (talk) 03:28, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
Hey, thanks! I appreciate it very much! LightandDark2000 (talk) 05:38, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
No problem! Dustin (talk) 05:39, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Additional facts for you!

Hi, I can see your facts section, and its good. I would like you to include the Hercules–Corona Borealis Great Wall. It is astonishing...

Also, a friend told me that IC 1101's size decreased by a factor of 4. So it is no longer the largest galaxy known.... Johndric Valdez (talk) 10:16, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Okay. I will add that as soon as I can. As for IC 1101, I haven't found anything on the internet confirming that yet. LightandDark2000 (talk) 14:33, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
I've found confirmation, it's on its article. It's mentioned that "The galaxy's diffuse stellar halo light extends to at least 1.4 million light years" from the 5.6 million light year measure. Some galaxies have sizes of 3 million light years. Some large galaxies are A2261-BCG and ESO 146-IG 005. Johndric Valdez (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 11:03, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
Oh. I had no idea! Since I don't have all that much time (and since you obviously have access to more resources than I do), can you please update that article as well as those mentioning the largest galaxies? I would also love it if you could also tell me which galaxy scientists now believe to be the largest in the Universe (and please link the article). Thanks! LightandDark2000 (talk) 02:26, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
The article has been updated, and it turns out that IC 1101 is still the largest known galaxy in existence. IC 1101 is about 2.8 million light-years across (with the revised size), while NGC 262, the second-largest galaxy (and oddly, a Spiral Galaxy), is only 2.6 million light-years across. LightandDark2000 (talk) 02:34, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
I know that, because I myself updated it. It seems that you just reported an info to the one whom you get that info. Hahaha...
I am not exactly sure if IC 1101 is still the largest, but it appears. After two years of searching and analysis I just don't get a galaxy reaching IC 1101's revised size. The largest I've found is NGC 262 as you have mentioned. I was surprised that it was a spiral. The journal by Morris et al says that it was the neutral hydrogen halo which is very large. It is intriguing, because a year ago NASA reported their "largest spiral" NGC 6872 which spans 522,000 light years, which makes NGC 262 very cunning as it was only one fourth of the size of the latter. I myself linked NGC 262 in its article. But back to IC 1101, I am not sure because I am not conducting any galaxy searches or have any links to sky surveys like SDSS. I am not even an astronomer; just a Grade 8 student in an odd town. Who knows maybe SDSS already found a galaxy spanning 10 million light years? The whole assumption is that IC 1101 is the largest I've found so far. But hey, thanks buddy! SkyFlubbler (talk) 15:20, 29 June 2014 (UTC) (PS: I am Johndric Valdez, just on a different account)
Hi LightandDark2000, the Condor Galaxy (NGC 6872) is the largest-known galaxy and we have just had a paper accepted last week on the Astrophysical Journal describing it in detail. I have just checked on the GALEX data and NGC 262, with current Hubble constant only has a diameter of 62,000 ly. The references you have cited with its distance and size are from the 80's and are quite outdated. Is there anyway we could exchange emails? I would love to discuss it with you in details. I am not used to rewrite Misplaced Pages articles, but I am afraid we need to do that ASAP for both the Condor and NGC 262's page. Would you please help me on this? It is quite easy to see that the Condor is considerably larger than NGC 262, since they are approximately at the same distance, but the Condor has a disk of approximately 8.5 arcminutes in length, as NGC 262's is only 1.1 arcminute long. Rafaeleufrasio (talk) 03:07, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
I think you mean largest Spiral Galaxy. I actually don't have that much time at the moment, so I won't be able to look into it immediately. However, from what I have gleaned in this short period of time, it appears that NGC 6872's size is somewhat controversial, and that the current scientific consensus is that NGC 262 is currently the largest Spiral Galaxy out there. However, the stats may differ somewhat between sources, because NGC 6872 is currently undergoing a galactic merging with another galaxy. More solid data needs to be gathered from reliable sources before any major changes, like the one you proposed, can be implemented. In any case, I think that we need some more info. But if anything new comes up, feel free to keep me updated. LightandDark2000 (talk) 04:16, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
 Done! I finally added the Hercules–Corona Borealis Great Wall to my collections of fun facts/trivia. Sorry about the delay. LightandDark2000 (talk) 19:31, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Sorry to bug you, but...

...why whenever someone invites you to an IRC channel, do you only wait like 30 seconds before leaving? You are still completely anonymous, and you can talk about things at a much higher rate. All communication is done purely using text, so what's the problem? I mean, you could be a bit more patient, that's all. Dustin (talk) 00:51, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Eh... I haven't been to an IRC chat for quite some time, neither have I received an invitation to one since then. It might give it another go at a later time, but currently, I'm in the progress of finishing a massive editing project. LightandDark2000 (talk) 00:54, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
Well, if you ever want to try, then if you see my name, "DustinVS", just type "DustinVS" into the comment bar to ping me. You should try #wikipedia-coffeehouse . If you do, again, just type "DustinVS" into the comment bar (without the quotes). Dustin (talk) 01:06, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
Sure. LightandDark2000 (talk) 01:08, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
Also, you don't need an invitation to visit an IRC channel, and it isn't rude to visit without one. Dustin (talk) 01:14, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, I know. What I'm saying is... It's just been a long time. LightandDark2000 (talk) 01:17, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Your userpage

No government on Earth has ever achieved communism. The USSR, China, and Cuba were never communist, but were what is commonly called "Stalinist" and "Maoist" after the dictators who did those things in the "name" of communism. It appears that what you did with this edit is likely based on misinformation. I just thought I ought to say... Dustin (talk) 01:19, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

That's true in a sense, given the original tenets of Communism. Anyhow, those governments are all labeled as Communist... But regardless, I hate their ideology and practices. LightandDark2000 (talk) 01:21, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
The ideology has good intentions though; it has just had many extremely corrupted versions of it used in practice. As quoted from the article Communism: "Marxism-Leninism was made into the official ideology of the Comintern, and exported to other countries. This body of thought formed the basis for the most clearly visible communist movement in the 20th century and, as such, in the Western world, the term "communism" came to refer to social movements and states associated with the Comintern. However, these states did not develop communism, and the degree to which they had achieved socialism is debated." What you hate so much is not really communism. Communism is a failure in practice because people in the world are too corrupt, the reason for which the ideology is unattainable. Dustin (talk) 01:27, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, I get that. We had discussions on this in World History class. However, I really don't like the idea of "equal everything." I prefer to have economic competition, which provides motivation. But the "result" of Communism has largely been pure bull crap... And I hate it. "Communist governments" nearly killed off my grandparents, which only adds more to my hatred of said governments. But regardless, I'm so glad that America is Capitalist/Democratic. If not, I would probably be doomed to a miserable life. LightandDark2000 (talk) 01:30, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
Ugh... some teachers say things about communism and equality, but that is a bad way to put it in my opinion, and may easily be misinterpreted. Communism doesn't promote "equal everything" as you put it. Like I said, no real government has been communist; they just claimed such. A real communist country has never existed, and one never shall exist. I still think you misunderstand me, but enough. Those terrible people gave the original ideology known as communism a bad name, and now some refuse to look at its original purpose. I am not advocating that any governments in the world ought to adopt the ideology though, because it does not work. I just don't like you pinning all the blame on Communism rather than on Stalinism, Maoism, etc. and on the dictators themselves, being Stalin, Mao, Castro, etc.
On a side note, I do think the US government ought to change given the terrible economic disparity and the ever-widening gap between the rich and poor, but I will not say more about that subject here. The US government is still far better than many governments in the world in places such as Africa and parts of the Middle-East for example. Perhaps you do understand me, and I am just misunderstanding you; if so, I apologize. Dustin (talk) 01:40, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
Well, yes! I agree that our government is better than most (if not all) governments in the world in general. However, our economy needs to change (albeit, not into a non-Capitalist one), and it is in need of some dire reforms. An economist predicted that if our economy doesn't stop being a "for the rich and by the rich" economy, we will experience a double-dip crisis in 2016 that will make the Great Depression seem like child's play. That really frightens me, and I sure hope that we can avoid it, because if we can't, then we (and pretty much everyone else in America) are screwed. LightandDark2000 (talk) 01:44, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
That is a problem in the world... If you ever decide to use it at some point, we could discuss this more on IRC without worrying about going off-topic too much... by the way, I like part of your userpage design; I have my own "Interesting facts" section on my user page. I just thought I should say. Dustin (talk) 01:48, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
Continued in the section below

Userpage designs

Thanks! And I'll probably go look at your user page really soon. LightandDark2000 (talk) 01:51, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

I also have a featured picture which I change every once and a while. I have a lot of versions: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15
5, 7, and 15 are some of my favorites. So, what do you think? Is it a good idea in your opinion? Thanks! Dustin (talk) 03:38, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
Wow! Those pictures are awesome! I really like them, and I even have a couple of favorites (I may elaborate more on this later). But hey, I think that it's a really good idea. You should keep rotating photos, they're very cool and they're bound to get more traction. I wonder where you got some of those... I think that you've done a great job with the images, and you should just keep up the good work. LightandDark2000 (talk) 06:13, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
Thanks! I was trying to find a way of moving my featured picture just slightly higher up on my userpage, but I can't at the moment because my primary, right-side userbox is in the way. Thanks for the complements though! Maybe I'll keep a record of my featured pictures somewhere. What do you think? I love using satellite images from NASA (especially Aqua/MODIS and Terra/MODIS) and NOAA View (Suomi NPP). I also use a few pictures I have taken myself with my camera, and I am trying to find out how to better focus wide-view images when using it (I took a picture of the Rio Grande from Overlook Point in New Mexico, but there was already an older image with better better from 2006 although it had a lower resolution. I have only used images I uploaded up to this point, by the way, but I uploaded them all on Wikimedia Commons, so you are free to use them. #8 I took myself, and #12 I created from a PNG myself (SVGs are better because they have infinite scalability!). The EVL images (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 9, 10, 11, 13, 14, 15) have special crops which usually (although I think there is one exception) allow them to be used as desktop backgrounds, and they tend to work a little bit better (usually) as featured pictures because they approach the maximum image size while fitting on a screen (at least screens I have tested on). That's why they tend to make some of the best featured pictures (the majority of my FPs so far have been EVL as a matter of fact). You know how you have always had that picture of Hurricane Sandy on your page? If you wanted to (although this would be purely your decision, of course), you could swap out for new pictures in a similar way to how I do. You wouldn't necessarily have to use only your own uploads as I do, but I do think it would look neat. Those are just some of my thoughts. Again, I'm glad you like the idea! Dustin (talk) 15:53, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
Also, when you reply, please use {{ping|Dustin V. S.}} to ping me so can I respond more quickly. While I am watching your page, pinging me will still allow me to see your response more quickly. Thanks. Dustin (talk) 15:57, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
No additional thoughts? If so, please just say so. I was hoping that you'd have something to say, but if not, I'd like you to say so so I stop expecting. Thanks. Dustin (talk) 03:41, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
Oh, sorry! I was kind of busy yesterday. But I believe that you could solve your "picture problem" by either moving it above your userboxes, or consolidating your userboxes in a vertical manner, using several columns using the organizing template, and then either leaving them where they are or moving them below your picture. As for my userpage, I don't really want to change my picture that often. I was going to change it, but I'm not sure if the picture I want to use is copyrighted; if it is, that could be a problem. LightandDark2000 (talk) 18:01, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
Could you link the image? I might be able to tell you whether or not it is available for use on your Misplaced Pages page. Dustin (talk) 20:03, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
It is not available on Commons yet. I was considering uploading it, but I wasn't sure of the Copyright status. Anyhow, here is a link to the image. It's only one of a few sites with that image. I believe that it might be the work of a CalTech student, which if it is the case, then yes, I will be able to use it. But I haven't double-checked all of the sites yet, so I can't be sure. LightandDark2000 (talk) 20:33, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
@LightandDark2000: Heh... "It is not available on Commons yet." Does this help? I don't know the validity of the licensing, but I think it is safe to use considering that it has been on Wikimedia Commons for five years. Dustin (talk) 20:55, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Yes, thank you, it does. By the way, you don't need to ping me. Each time you leave a message or make any changes to my talk page, I can see it in the huge red notification at the top of my screen. LightandDark2000 (talk) 21:03, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

I am actually aware of that. I pinged you because I wanted you to respond (Would you please take a five second break from editing and look at this?), but you just kept on editing anyway, and I could see that you weren't adding "just in" information or something like that. Not to seem impatient, but that's my reason. Dustin (talk) 21:05, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
Hey, dude. I just did. You can see the result on my user page right now, if you want to. LightandDark2000 (talk) 21:07, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
And by the way, thanks for the help! LightandDark2000 (talk) 21:08, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, it's not a problem. Also, by the way, I notice that the Milky Way image is slightly larger; maybe if you made it slightly smaller? It's an excellent image, but in having that more squarish shape, it doesn't fit as well on some screens. It's just an observation, though, and you don't have to take any action if you don't want to. Dustin (talk) 21:11, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
 Done. I even centered the image to make it look better. LightandDark2000 (talk) 21:21, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
Actually, LightandDark, in including "center" in the main thumbnail, use of the <center> element is unnecessary. It does look a little bit better because you made it smaller, though. Dustin (talk) 21:27, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
I didn't know that. But yeah, it definitely looks a lot better now, from both my desktop and my smartphone. LightandDark2000 (talk) 21:28, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
I decided that as much as I loved the new Milky Way picture, my close-up image of the Andromeda–Milky Way collision describes my nature much better. PS, I anticipate the day when our two galaxies will merge into one, bigger Lenticular galaxy. LightandDark2000 (talk) 22:22, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Welcome back!

Your input has been missed at the Wildfire articles. You might find they need some updating. --MelanieN (talk) 01:21, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Probably. I guess that there's some more work for me to do. LightandDark2000 (talk) 01:22, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Hey, I thought I'd say since it seems this meets your interest...

...I saw the recent total lunar eclipse which peaked where I live at 5:55 AM Central Daylight Time (about 25 mins before this comment), and I took pictures and whatnot too, although they are not great because the moon is partly shaded by pesky cirrus clouds in the way. I just thought I'd bring this up just in case, and because I wasn't sure if any pictures or anything are needed, or if NASA just takes pictures or something. That's all. Dustin (talk) 11:20, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Cool! I happen to be watching the Total Lunar Eclipse right now, as I have been for the past hour (About 4:45 AM PDT right now in Southern California). I took pictures as well, maybe I might upload a couple. LightandDark2000 (talk) 11:46, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Yu-Gi-Oh!

Hi There LightAndDark2000! I saw your recent edits to the article mentioned above and thought you may like to join WP:YGO. Contact me on the talk page there if you're interested. TF 18:26, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

 Done LightandDark2000 (talk) 08:28, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Good Article Nomination

As the other most frequent contributor to the American-led intervention in Syria article I just wanted to let you know that I have nominated the article for Good Article status. I know that both of our hard work on the article has helped improve it and I do hope that it gets GA status. Thanks again! - SantiLak (talk) 22:19, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

No problem! By the way, I hope that it passes the nomination. LightandDark2000 (talk) 00:52, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Disambiguation page naming

Greetings! Please review WP:INTDABLINK, which explains why it is necessary to pipe intentional links to disambiguation pages through a "(disambiguation)" redirect. Cheers! bd2412 T 23:20, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

And I'll second this. Please review WP:INTDABLINK. The base title page (Superstorm) should never redirect to the (disambiguation) page (Superstorm (disambiguation)). The disambiguation page always belongs at the base title when there is no WP:PRIMARY topic. This is spelled out at WP:DABNAME. -Niceguyedc 05:24, 8 January 2015 (UTC) (last sentence added at 05:27 UTC)
As BD2412 requested above, please see WP:INTDABLINK before attempting to "fix" any additional links to disambiguation pages by bypassing redirects. Thanks! —David Levy 12:54, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

A cheeseburger for you!

For edits at War on Terror, I hereby present to you this cheeseburger. May it fuel your continued edits on Misplaced Pages. RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 05:45, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
Thank you so much!!! I will most definitely keep up my contributions. LightandDark2000 (talk) 05:49, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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Good work on the (2015 Egyptian military intervention in Libya) article. Hashima20 (talk) 08:54, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
Hey, thanks!!! I really appreciate it. LightandDark2000 (talk) 08:55, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Afghanistan merge discussion close

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Hey, thanks! LightandDark2000 (talk) 00:48, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Some falafel for you!

Thanks for the fine edits to the Syria map. You corrected several errors that were present. Pbfreespace3 (talk) 00:23, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
Thank you so much!! I greatly appreciate it. By the way, I enjoy correcting errors (not so much the "correcting" part though). :) LightandDark2000 (talk) 00:25, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Barnstar for being such a tireless map updater

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Recent Astronomical Events

I noticed that you added the Jupiter/Venus event to your userpage which will occur tonight, and I also noticed some other things in that section of your userpage. It isn't vital that I post this, but some of those are upcoming, not recent, so maybe you could change the header or add another? I don't care what you do, by the way, I just thought I'd make a suggestion. Dustin (talk)

For "recent" I meant both past and present. Either way, I wan't to make it short and catchy. LightandDark2000 (talk) 20:47, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
Alright, that's fine. I've been able to see the two planets approaching each other (relative to me, that is) in the sky, and I saw you make that change to your userpage, so I thought I would point it out. Dustin (talk) 20:52, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
I'm doubtful there aren't better pictures, but since they're relevant...  :) Dustin (talk) 03:30, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

By the way, I noticed that since at least January 2015, you no longer edit weather-related topics anymore in favor of Middle-Eastern topics (you did edit several weather pages in early January, though). I'm not going to dictate what you edit or anything like that, but that's a shame. I don't want to get in trouble for going too off-topic or whatever the policy/guideline is though, so I'll just leave it at that. In any case, again, take care. Dustin (talk) 22:29, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

I will be turning more attention to weather topics now, since the Syria frontlines are beginning to go static in areas that I monitor (and to dilute my editing among my topics of interest). It will be a gradual change, but just don't expect me to continue investing all of my editing time in Levant war articles. LightandDark2000 (talk) 21:13, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

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I just want to thank you for being civil. I hope I didn't come across as mean, because I didn't mean it that way. I just want to make sure the wiki map stays within encyclopedic standards. Thanks for the compromise. Pbfreespace3 (talk) 21:03, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
Oh, hey, thanks! I really appreciate this token. LightandDark2000 (talk) 21:06, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Some baklava for you!

Bruskom 19:28, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
Thanks! LightandDark2000 (talk) 19:59, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Holidays

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2016!

Hello LightandDark2000, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you a heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2016.
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Oh, hey! Thank you very much. Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year as well!! LightandDark2000 (talk) 19:47, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

Two articles for consideration to mainspace

Hey, I was wondering if you would allow me moving your articles about Winter Storm Titan and the March 2014 bomb cyclone to the mainspace? As they are very detailed and thought-out. But just as a reminder, I will have to adjust the articles to comply with Misplaced Pages's rules so it is not removed (this includes removing TWC's winter storm names from the articles, for example the one on Winter Storm Titan would probably be moved to something like Early March 2014 North American storm complex. --MarioProtIV (talk) 23:00, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

Oh, and the see also sections would need to be revised since they are mainly consisting of the articles you have created on your own. But overall, very good edits and contributions to them, in fact, you seem better then me at creating storm articles! :) --MarioProtIV (talk) 19:38, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
I've heard from other users that even then, they are still not ready for being moved to Misplaced Pages main space. Until then, I want to avoid moving the sandbox articles, to prevent them from being deleted or reduced to truncated articles/redirect links by others. LightandDark2000 (talk) 19:55, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
Ah, okay. But in my opinion, the reason why it would be deleted or reduced would probably be because of your inclusion of TWC's names in an not-so-significant snowstorm (The January 2015 North American blizzard and January 2016 United States blizzard articles are excluded as they were significant/historic snowstorms, and the names Juno and Jonas were mentioned later in their respective articles), which I believe creates copyright issues under WP:TOP100, but other then that, I don't really see any issues except a few links in the references no longer working. --MarioProtIV (talk) 20:33, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
Actually, I am considering using the Winter Storm Titan article (and probably the late March bomb cyclone one) to help expand the 2013–14 North American winter page, as it is the least developed out of the 3 winter articles we have. And besides, you have more then enough information in it so you don't have to worry about deletion. I'd have to change it so the article name is different though. --MarioProtIV (talk) 21:49, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
Would appreciate some sort of response soon to give the ok to move this to help expand the winter page. --MarioProtIV (talk) 00:45, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
 Done. I have moved both articles into Misplaced Pages mainspace, after making some revisions and the appropriate changes. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 02:34, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

Plot summary lengths

TV episode plot summaries should be 100-200 words, as specified by WP:TVPLOT and the instructions for {{episode list}}, not 250 words as you've indicated in this edit summary. Where did you get 250 words from? --AussieLegend () 11:20, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

It said upwards of 350, and a number of users have OKed extending it up to 250 words in episodes with complex/major plots. LightandDark2000 (talk) 12:10, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
There was some confusing wording that said "with upwards of 350 words for complex storylines", but we agreed over a month ago that this should be removed from the MOS. There is a bit of leeway in the 100-200 word range but this is usually limited to 15-20 words, although this should be only when absolutely necessary. --AussieLegend () 13:11, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

El Niño article paywall

With this edit, you indicate that this source shows that El Niño has ended. While I'm not saying I disbelieve you, that article appears to be behind a paywall. Can you provide another source saying the same thing, or perhaps provide some quotes from the article? Sources seem to disagree on when El Niño started (JMA says 2014; NWS says 2015) and ended (some say it has already ended, but NWS still seems to be holding back on such statements for the time being). Thanks. Dustin (talk) 03:58, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

That's not the source I added. The 2 sources following that link are the ones that I added. (BTW, I didn't realize that the first link was behind a paywall.) LightandDark2000 (talk) 05:52, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Ah, I wasn't reading the diff closely enough. There were three sources, and I looked at the only one you didn't add. My mistake. That said, both of your sources indicate that the statement that El Niño has ended can be traced to the Australian Bureau of Meteorology. NOAA has not released its monthly assessment for June yet, so perhaps it will come into agreement with the BoM in the near-future. That said, that would only be speculation, and as such, if you are going to mark the El Niño as ended, you should probably add a note saying there is some disagreement between agencies as to whether or not it has ended yet. Dustin (talk) 07:19, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
There hasn't been any formal/public disagreement. Also, the SST charts by NOAA indicate that the El Nino is over (I can link it later). LightandDark2000 (talk) 07:21, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Perhaps, but can you link any specific statements by NOAA saying "El Niño has ended?" It would be better for us to wait for the next update by NOAA to come out on June 9. Dustin (talk) 07:25, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
I don't think that NOAA has released their report yet. I think it's a monthly or bimonthly report, so it may still be a number of days away. When it's released though, I'll cite it, if I can locate the report. LightandDark2000 (talk) 08:03, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
As one of the primary editors of the El Nino article, I will jump in here and point a few things out. Firstly each major agency (JMA, BoM, NOAA/IRI etc) that monitors El Nino has its own definition of what is and isnt an El Nino event and when to declare it formed or dissipated etc. This means as a result the JMA declared that it started in summer 2014, while NOAA/IRI declared that it started in 2015, however, NOAA has reclassified 2014 as a marginal event on page 5 of the BAMs State of the Climate 2014 report. Personally in order to avoid these arguments of when the event dissipated, I would prefer putting something along the lines of that it dissipated between April and June 2016, while remembering that we measure ENSO over 3 month cycles. However, in recent days @ABC paulista: and I have been discussing this over the last few days and she has provided me with various arguments as to why we shouldn't do it which have been interesting to read and helped me understand ENSO a bit more.Jason Rees (talk) 11:56, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
NOAA's Climate Prediction Center releases its ENSO analysis weekly, and in their last update they said that El Niño is still present, albeit weaker and weakening, with IRI also supporting it with their last update (twice per month). Also, JMA in their latest outlook stated that El Niño is still ongoing with their index still showing El Niño readings and data. So, considering all this, I think that would be misleading and a little irresonsible to call an end to this event when only one stated that, and all other agencies stating otherwise. ABC paulista (talk) 16:10, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
I actually read the weekly analysis. The reason why I shunted it to the side is that while they do have analysis releases weekly, the statement "El Niño is weakening." can be traced back to the May 12 diagnostic discussion. That statement will not change until at least June 9 (since it is the second Thursday of the month). Dustin (talk) 18:34, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
I'd like to see your source for NOAA explicitly calling saying El Niño began in 2014. I have seen multiple recent sources by NOAA that still indicate that JFM 2015 only had 0.4 °C above-normal SSTs. Dustin (talk) 06:29, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
Dustin: The 0.4 in JFM is one of the reasons why its only a marginal event. :P Anyway read Pg S5 and you will find them, saying that the final months of 2014 has been reclassified as "marginal El Nino".Jason Rees (talk) 11:31, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
@Jason Rees: It's probably speculation from my part, but the way they used this "marginal El Nino" term there gives me the impression that they wanted to say that the world was on a quasi-El Niño state, so it was almost a El Niño but not quite fully formed. ABC paulista (talk) 14:32, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

@ABC paulista: What are your thoughts on declaring an end to the El Nino, now that NOAA have said goodbye and the JMA are saying that the event likely ended in spring 2016 but are probably waiting for five months to be up.Jason Rees (talk) 12:08, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

@Jason Rees: Since both NOAA and JMA declared that El Niño ended, I think that we can do it too. ABC paulista (talk) 16:08, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

That makes 3 agencies (JMA, NOAA, and BoM). A Google search will also show that the common consensus among most agencies (those that released their reports) and other analysts is that the El Nino episode ended in May 2016. We shouldn't leave the article outdated just because 1 or 2 agencies have yet to release their reports. The 3 agencies I mentioned so far are enough to put some kind of closure on the article. LightandDark2000 (talk) 16:12, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

Acctully LightandDark2000 I personally felt that it was better that we waited for @ABC paulista:'s opinion, since today's JMA report only says that it has likely ended in spring 2016. This is because he/she was not happy to shut it down just based on the BoM declaration of El Nino gone, which is what most of the sources you provided were based on. I also do not feel that the article would be outdated if the JMA had turned around today and said that the El Nino event is still ongoing.Jason Rees (talk) 17:13, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
Regular SST maps released by the NOAA indicate that the El Nino is over. LightandDark2000 (talk) 17:14, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
ABCPaulista provided his/her opinion above, and made the changes to the article. LightandDark2000 (talk) 17:18, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
(edit conflict)It is useless arguing about it now since ABC has commented and put it in, but as I think you know we have to be careful interpreting maps especially of the SSTs since different datasets yield different data. As a result it is wiser to stick to declarations by the agencies involved then interrupting them ourselves or relying on the media's interpretation especially when they are trying to be Careful with what they say.Jason Rees (talk) 17:31, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
@Jason Rees: and @LightandDark2000:, JMA said in their last outlook that "These oceanic and atmospheric conditions indicate that the El Niño conditions faded away in spring 2016." That, combined with their statement of "El Niño event, which had persisted since boreal summer 2014, is likely to have ended in spring 2016." and with their monitoring data and historical data graphs showing that the plot is outside of the red-shaded are, indicate that the ENSO is not in its warm phase anymore. So it`s very indicative that for them this El Niño ended. ABC paulista (talk) 23:15, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

@LightandDark2000: Keep in mind that these three agencies are the main ones that monitore ENSO as a whole and the only ones that does this regularly, with the other agencies and media basing their opinions and outlooks on the opinion of at least 1 of these 3 (mostly NOAA/CPC), so we don`t need to rush a decision to "start" or "end" an ENSO event based on only one agency, or precipitate, or antecipate, a declaration of such magnitude, and we shouldn't get used to such predictive actions since we can't quite forsee what action a agency would have, since these agencies use different methods and take into account different indexes when measuring ENSO. Thus, I think that we should only say that the ENSO event started when the very first of these three agencies declare its arrival and finish when the very last of these three agencies declares its dissipation. This way, we can avoid things like WP:WEIGHT and WP:POV, just like I discussed earlier with @Jason Rees:. ABC paulista (talk) 23:15, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

And @LightandDark2000: I think you should lessen with that "Google it" attitude, since such argument is not objective whatsoever and leave too much room for personal interpretation and subjectivity. If you`re trying to make a point or an argument, it`s your burden to present the sources, not for the others to go look for them. And I really believe that looking for media or other meteorological agencies outside NOAA, BoM and JMA for ENSO wouldn`t be fruitful since all other base their outlooks on these three. ABC paulista (talk) 23:28, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

That's interesting. I think that those 3 are pretty much the big ones out there. LightandDark2000 (talk) 23:44, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
It is interesting to note that the 3 major players for ENSo puublish in english @ABC paulista:... I do cpeersonally wonder about Meteo France with its two Pacific island nations....
@Jason Rees: They preety much use the same criteria of NOAA's Niño 3.4, but they don't give much info or details about the conceptual aspects of ENSO. They focus on the predicted effects on the French-speaking nations by some models, which include models from the National Centers for Environmental Prediction and JMA. I'm not sure about their database, tho. ABC paulista (talk) 02:21, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

WikiProject Wildfire

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Hello! I have recently started a new WikiProject and am trying to recruit new members. The project, WikiProject Wildfire, focuses on articles that relate to wildfires. There is a lot of work that needs to be done. From updating templates, to classifying and improving articles. Any level of commitment is welcome! If you care to just add some input on the founding of the new project, awesome. If you would like to take an active role in editing articles, that is awesome as well! Knowledge of wildfires is NOT a prerequisite for joining the project. In fact, it would be great to have some members of the project who are NOT fire-buffs. That way we make sure that articles aren't just written by and for people in the fire community. If this is something you have any interest in, I would love to have you join the project! Please feel free to join the discussion or leave me a message on my talk page. (Note that you are receiving this message from me because I saw you made multiple edits on a wildfire related page, specifically May 2014 San Diego County wildfires. Not just spamming you at random.) Hope you have a great day! Zackmann08 (/What I been doing) 22:02, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

It's a wonderful idea! I joined, but when users join the WikiProject, they should sign their username with ~~~~, which is done on other WikiProjects. LightandDark2000 (talk) 18:25, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

Happy New Year, LightandDark2000!

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Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Misplaced Pages. Dustin (talk) 06:27, 1 January 2017 (UTC)


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Thanks, man! Have a Happy New Year too! LightandDark2000 (talk) 08:23, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
No problem! See you around. Dustin (talk) 02:53, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Deir ez-Zor siege article

Should we have an article on ISIL's Deir ez-Zor siege (since July 14, 2014, when they expelled all of the remaining rebels)? And if so, could you maybe make a starter one when you have the time? EkoGraf (talk) 04:58, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Hey, I was thinking the same thing! Unfortunately, I won't have time to do the bulk of the article work until August, due to my classes. I can, however, start an article and maybe add some content by late March. I'll try to start the article, and see how it goes. (The new article would basically encompass the scope and topics of all the Deir ez-Zor articles generated from mid-2014 to the present). LightandDark2000 (talk) 02:01, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
Siege of Deir ez-Zor (2014–17). Okay, here is the link. Now we'll have to tally up all of the casualties and losses for both sides (including the prominent commanders). LightandDark2000 (talk) 02:02, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
Someone already started the article, but I decided to add in some more information (including a tally of overall statistics). LightandDark2000 (talk) 03:26, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
Great! :) EkoGraf (talk) 22:02, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Fun Facts

So, I saw your Fun Facts on your main page, and your first one being That the Universe is approximately 94 billion light-years across in diameter?, and it reminded me of some maths I did some time ago.

Did you know, if the universe was shrunk so small that the diameter of the Solar System was down to the size of a ping-pong ball, then the Universe would still be 1.77 billion miles in diameter? That's a ping-pong ball between the Sun and Uranus. Just an interesting tit-bit. (There's space battles going on out there somewhere.) -- Alex 14:40, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

That's cool. I never really though of it that way. (The Universe is still expanding, the rate of which is accelerating, so that ratio's probably going to change a bit.) LightandDark2000 (talk) 14:42, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, that's just a rough approximation with a ton of rounding, but it'd definitely change. Really puts things into perspective! -- Alex 14:53, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Welcome to MILHIST

Hello and welcome to the Military history WikiProject! As you may have guessed, we're a group of editors working to improve Misplaced Pages's coverage of topics related to military history.

A few features that you might find helpful:

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask any of the project coordinators or any other experienced member of the project, and we'll be happy to help you. Again, welcome, and we are looking forward to seeing you around! Anotherclown (talk) 03:33, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

Try the mountains

Removing villages on the Syrian map is a good way to keep map size down. However, the easiest way to do this without removing settlement data is to remove mountains and hills that are far behind the frontlines. Many of the hills in Latakia province and west of Palmyra could be erased without taking away anything important from the map. Do you agree? TheNavigatrr (talk) 00:48, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

Yes, of course. Some mountain peaks and hills should be kept, but a large number of them can be removed. Unfortunately, the problem has grown so large that many of the villages have to go as well. The Afrin and Latakia areas could seriously use some cleanup, for starters. BTW, this discussion should go under the heading in the Syrian Civil War map's talk page, because this is such a big issue. LightandDark2000 (talk) 00:52, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

New LTA case

In June, you requested that a new LTA opened, and I have created it: WP:Long-term abuse/UnderArmourKid. ☆ Bri (talk) 06:18, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. LightandDark2000 (talk) 06:38, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

Steward Requests

Regarding your request, your best bet would be to go to m:SRG, I think. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 13:03, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

Thank you! LightandDark2000 (talk) 13:10, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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For all your great work with October 2007 California wildfires!!! Zackmann08 (/What I been doing) 00:48, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
Hey, thanks! LightandDark2000 (talk) 09:47, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Reverting Page Moves

@EkoGraf: How exactly did you do that? Whenever I tried to revert page moves, I've always failed (except for maybe 1 or 2 times, when I reverted immediately after the move was done). There is an article I'm eyeing that I would like to revert, because the current title is the result of a page move war. LightandDark2000 (talk) 06:42, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

To be honest, I have no idea hehehehe. I simply went to the article's move option. I didn't think it would actually work since I was moving it to its previous/old title, and I know from previous attempts that an article will not move back to an old title because of the redirect, but for some reason it worked hehehe. Maybe, as you yourself said, it worked because I did it only around 12 hours after you made the move. Anyway, I hope the new campaign article is nicely constructed now. EkoGraf (talk) 08:12, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

ITN recognition for December 2017 Southern California wildfires

On 13 December 2017, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article December 2017 Southern California wildfires, which you substantially updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. James (/contribs) 06:52, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

Cool! I'll bring up some articles in the future, if I find the chance to do so. LightandDark2000 (talk) 11:59, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

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You are kicking some serious butt with all the contributions to fire articles. Keep up the great work!!! Zackmann08 (/What I been doing) 17:18, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
Thanks! I just felt that someone needed to update/improve those articles. I'm happy to help out! LightandDark2000 (talk) 01:38, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

Re: Cyclone Ockhi

Hey there LightandDark (is LaD ok for shorthand?). I don't edit tropical cyclone articles much these days. I'm more interested in articles closer to home for me, not mother nature's destructive potential. However, I'm looking for users to mentor. Would you be interested in such an arrangement? I can give plenty of suggestions for how to turn the article on Ochki into a good article. If you're interested, make a dedicated user subpage for the project. If not, look around, but editorshop is thin these days, and it might be a while before Ochki is improved. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:20, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

I don't think I have enough time for a full mentorship right now. However, I would certainly appreciate a few tips on how to improve the Ochki article (it already looks good to me in many ways, but the supposed copyright issue is a real problem). :) When I have time, I'll see what I can do there. BTW, you can also use "L & D" or "L&D" for shorthand. LightandDark2000 (talk) 08:22, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
Here's my review. Good luck L&D :P ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:57, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
  • Figure out what was copied and pasted, and rewrite that in your own words.
  • First sentence - Most intense cyclone in two years isn't interesting. Be broad but specific to this storm
  • Watch out for comma run-ons. If you have more than one comma in a sentence, then it should be in part of a list. Otherwise, the sentence structure gets too confusing for the average reader. Write simpler, but use linkable terms when they are appropriate. Also, in general, the sentences all probably have a good 3-5 too many words. Many should be re-written to be simpler/shorter.
  • What is "a tidal wave attack"?
  • Don't have rain warning stuff in the impact section.
  • India's section is too long.
  • Don't have bullet point lists in an article if you can help it (and you can for Maldives)
Thank you. One question though: Is there some way for me to figure out what has been copied and pasted (aside from using Plagarism Checking sites)? The only method I currently have for mass-evaluating the article right now is using an online Plagarism Checking, and the ones that I have used so far are far from perfect. LightandDark2000 (talk) 07:33, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
Yea, read through the article and see what stands out. Usually, stuff that is copied and pasted just looks out of place, compared to other cyclone articles. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:49, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. LightandDark2000 (talk) 02:59, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
With Ockhi Make sure you follow the IMD/JTWC's lead and say that the system formed near India and not Thailand.Jason Rees (talk) 03:01, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. I think I did this a month ago. If this isn't currently the case, then someone must have changed it back. LightandDark2000 (talk) 03:02, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
Looking at the article i can still see it in the lead but anyway the MH needs more IMD anaylsis. There is an 11 page report on Ockhi which you can use to further enhance the MH or most of the warnings are archived in the November talk page archive...Jason Rees (talk) 03:14, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

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For reverting 3 VANDALIZED REVISIONS made by ONE PERSON Thewinrat (talk) 02:07, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
Thanks! LightandDark2000 (talk) 05:16, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

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TonyBallioni (talk) 01:31, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Tropical cyclones in 2010

I would appreciate some feedback on the work I have done at Tropical cyclones in 2010 so far. If you have any ideas on content that can be added, feel free to let me know. Thanks, Figfires 22:26, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

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Keep it. Thanks a lot for your contributions. I've left you one more barnstar. Source Content Self-Maker (talk) 18:47, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Discord Chat for WP Tropical Cyclones

Are you in the discord chat for the Tropical Cyclones project? Figfires 03:54, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Uh... I don't think I am. LightandDark2000 (talk) 04:11, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) I didn't know there was a WPTC Discord until now (the people in the IRC channel apparently don't talk about it much), but you'd know if you were in it. Master of Time (talk) 04:25, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
Go here to join it if you would like. Figfires 04:39, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

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Impressive work! Sakaimover (talk) 01:04, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
Thanks! LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 01:24, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

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Thanks for fighting vandalism/disruptive edits and contributing to tropical cyclones! INeedSupport 21:29, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
That's awesome! Thanks! :) LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 21:30, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

Syrian Desert campaign (2017–present)

Thought I let you know I have created this article Syrian Desert campaign (2017–present). When you have the time, feel free to expand it please. EkoGraf (talk) 16:47, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

It's about time that someone created an article for that campaign. The area seems to be ISIL's (possibly) last territorial pocket in the Levant region, aside from the caves in the mountains on the eastern outskirts of Bughuz Fawqani. Once again, it appears that victory has been prematurely declared, as the SDF is still fighting ISIL fighters in the caves of the mountains of Jabal Baghuz, according to both the SDF and the SOHR. This means that the battle is still ongoing. I will have to correct this when I have more time. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 23:14, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
I would leave Battle of Baghuz Fawqani as a closed battle since most sources (official and unofficial) agree the battle itself has ended while what is taking place at the moment are mopping up operations by the SDF outside the town, around the mountain. I would suggest that a note be added on the end date (23 March) that clarifies some clearing/mopping up operations continued in the coming weeks in the vicinity of the mountain and that the aftermath section of the battle be expanded to include all available information on the current clearing of those caves and tunnels under Jabal Baghuz. EkoGraf (talk) 23:43, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Cyclone Kenneth

On 29 April 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Cyclone Kenneth, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page.

Noah 17:02, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

Page move user permission

Just FYI, I;’ve approved your request for this user permission. NJA | talk 15:57, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks! LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 00:29, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello, LightandDark2000. Your account has been granted the "extendedmover" user right, either following a request for it or demonstrating familiarity with working with article names and moving pages. You are now able to rename pages without leaving behind a redirect, move subpages when moving the parent page(s), and move category pages.

Please take a moment to review Misplaced Pages:Page mover for more information on this user right, especially the criteria for moving pages without leaving redirect. Please remember to follow post-move cleanup procedures and make link corrections where necessary, including broken double-redirects when suppressredirect is used. This can be done using Special:WhatLinksHere. It is also very important that no one else be allowed to access your account, so you should consider taking a few moments to secure your password. As with all user rights, be aware that if abused, or used in controversial ways without consensus, your page mover status can be revoked.

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If you do not want the page mover right anymore, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Thank you, and happy editing!

Added for reference by: LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 00:29, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

June 2019 WPTC Newsletter

Volume XIV, Issue 39, May 31, 2019

The Hurricane Herald is the arbitrarily periodical newsletter of WikiProject Tropical Cyclones. The newsletter aims to provide in summary the recent activities and developments of the WikiProject, in addition to global tropical cyclone activity. The Hurricane Herald has been running since its first edition ran on June 4, 2006; it has been almost thirteen years since that time. If you wish to receive or discontinue subscription to this newsletter, please visit the mailing list. This issue of The Hurricane Herald covers all project related events from April 14–May 31, 2019. This edition's editor and author is Hurricane Noah (talk · contribs).

Please visit this page and bookmark any suggestions of interest to you. This will help improve the newsletter and other cyclone-related articles. Past editions can be viewed here.

34 · 35 · 36 · 37 · 38

Article of the month, by Jason Rees


History of tropical cyclone naming - The practice of using names to identify tropical cyclones goes back several centuries, with storms named after places, saints or things they hit before the formal start of naming in each basin. The credit for the first usage of personal names for weather systems is given to the Queensland Government Meteorologist Clement Wragge, who named tropical cyclones and anticyclones between 1887 and 1907. This system of naming fell into disuse for several years after Wragge retired, until it was revived in the latter part of World War II for the Western Pacific basin. Over the following decades, various naming schemes have been introduced for the world's oceans, including for parts of the Atlantic, Pacific and the Indian Ocean. The majority of these lists are compiled by the World Meteorological Organization's tropical cyclone committee for the region and include names from different cultures as well as languages. Over the years there has been controversy over the names used at various times, with names being dropped for religious and political reasons. For example, female names were exclusively used in the basins at various times between 1945 - 2000 and were the subject of several protests. The names of significant tropical cyclones in the North Atlantic Ocean, Pacific Ocean and Australian region are retired from the naming lists and replaced with another name, at meetings of the various tropical cyclone committees.


Storm of the month and other tropical activity


Cyclone Fani was an extremely severe cyclonic storm that made landfall in Odisha, India on May 3. The storm achieved peak intensity as a near Category 5-equivalent cyclone with 3-minute sustained winds of 215 km/h (130 mph), 1-minute sustained winds of 250 km/h (155 mph), and a minimum central pressure of 937 hPa (mbar). Fani caused over $1.8 billion (2019 USD) in damage in India and Bangladesh and killed at least 89 people.

Since the last newsletter, twelve systems have formed.

  • Southwest Indian Ocean
    In the Southwest Indian Ocean, Cyclone Kenneth made landfall in Mozambique approximately 1 month after Cyclone Idai, causing widespread flooding and destruction. Overall, Kenneth killed at least 52 people and caused more than $100 million in damage. Additionally, Tropical Cyclone Lorna formed over the eastern portion of the basin in late April and dissipated in early May without affecting land.
  • Australian Region
    In the Australian Region, cyclones Lili and Ann formed in early May and both affected land. No deaths were reported, although Lili caused moderate damage in the Maluku Islands and East Timor.
  • South Pacific
    In the South Pacific, a tropical depression formed in mid-may, but failed to intensify and dissipated a few days later.
  • South Atlantic
    In the South Atlantic, Subtropical Storm Jaguar formed in late May and lasted for approximately two days before becoming extratropical.
  • Western Pacific
    In the Western Pacific, three weak tropical depressions existed during the first half of May.
  • North Atlantic
    In the North Atlantic, Subtropical Storm Andrea formed on the same day as Jaguar, but failed to intensify and dissipated on the next day.




  • The Eastern Pacific hurricane season began on May 15.
  • The Atlantic hurricane season will begin at 2:00 AM EDT on June 1.
  • The Central Pacific hurricane season will begin sometime after 12:00 AM HST on June 1.
Recent storms of the month
Edition Storm
36 Cyclone Idai
35 Typhoon Wutip (2019)

New WikiProject Members since the last newsletter in April 2019


More information can be found here. This list lists members who have joined/rejoined the WikiProject since the release of the last issue in April 2019. Sorted chronologically. Struckout users denote users who have left or have been banned.

To our new members: welcome to the project, and happy editing! Feel free to check the to-do list at the bottom right of the newsletter for things that you might want to work on. To our veteran members: thank you for your edits and your tireless contributions!

Editorial for welcoming new users, by Hurricanehink


Every year, editors new and old help maintain the new season of season articles. The older users are likely used to the standards of the project, such as how to Wikilink and reference properly. Newer users might make mistakes, and they might make them over and over again if they don't know better. If anyone (who happens to read this) comes across a new user, please don't bite, because with enough pushback, they'll decide that this group of editors is too mean, and unfun. This is all a volunteer project; no one can force anyone to do anything. We're all on here because of our love of knowledge and tropical cyclones. If you find someone new, consider using the official WPTC welcome template - Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Tropical cyclones/Welcome.

I also encourage that if you know any tropical cyclone researchers, please speak up and try recruiting them to edit. Veteran editors can't keep editing forever. Life gets busy, and the real world beckons!

Member of the month (edition) – Yellow Evan


Yellow Evan has been involved with WPTC since 2008. Since the last newsletter, Yellow Evan has taken 5 typhoon articles to good article status as well as created 2 more. Overall, he has created and/or significantly contributed to more than 130 good articles. Your work in the Western Pacific Basin is invaluable... Thank you for your contributions!

Latest WikiProject Alerts


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Featured Content

This section lists content that have become featured, articles and lists, since the past newsletter in mid-April 2019.
From April 14–May 31, 2019, 1 featured article was promoted:

WikiProject Tropical Cyclones: News & Developments

  • An awards program for the project began on May 31. It involves 25 levels that may be gained by earning points for completing various actions such as getting good or featured articles. Additional awards will be added in the future.
  • As of this news letter, there are more articles ranked a good article or better (1317) than articles ranked B-class or worse (1272), for the first time in the project's history.
  • Every Atlantic hurricane season from 1945 to 2007 is rated at least a GA. That is an impressive feat, and an incredibly body of work among many editors.
  • Cyclone Raja became the 150th featured article in the project. Thanks to all of the editors and their tireless edits for writing 2.7% of all of Misplaced Pages's featured articles.
  • In the 24 hours after Hurricane Michael's TCR was released, the article on the hurricane was edited 82 times by 18 different users.
  • In March 2019, the most popular article in the project was Cyclone Idai, viewed 231,969 times during the month. The generic cyclone was 2nd most popular, with 131,080 views. In 3rd place was Hurricane Katrina with 112,283 views. Included in the top 20 were the 2018 and 19 Atlantic hurricane seasons, hurricanes Michael, Florence, Irma, Maria, and Harvey, and the 1896 Cedar Keys hurricane, which was TFA on March 20th.

New articles since the last newsletter include:

New GA's include:

Current assessment table


Assessments valid as of this printing. Depending on when you may be viewing this newsletter, the table may be outdated. See here for the latest, most up to date statistics.
As of this issue, there are 150 featured articles and 69 featured lists. There are 142 A-class articles, but that number is subject to change, depending if we mandate that all A-class articles have an A-class review first. There are 956 good articles, meaning it is possible we get to our 1000th GA by the end of the year. There are only 61 B-class articles, perhaps because because most articles of that quality already passed a GA review. There are 350 C-class articles, 720 start-class articles, and 141 stub-class articles, with 29 lists and 8 current articles. The number of lists may decrease further as the "Tropical cyclone X" articles continue to be reclassified as set index articles. These figures mean that nearly half of the project is rated a GA or better - including the lists/current/future articles, there are 1272 articles that are below GA status, versus 1317 that are GA or better.

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From the Main Page


From the Main Page documents WikiProject related materials that have appeared on the main page from April 14–May 31, 2019 in chronological order.

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Project Goals & Progress


The following is the current progress on the three milestone goals set by the WikiProject as of this publishing. They can be found, updated, at the main WikiProject page.

250 featured pages: 87.2% complete
150 featured articles: 99.3% complete
1500 good articles: 87.2% complete
All articles to C-class or better: 66.8% complete
Write the next issue of The Hurricane Herald →

Noah 22:20, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Research Interview Request

Greetings LightandDark2000

I am part of a research project at the University of Westminster, London, that looks at contentious Misplaced Pages articles and would like to interview you about your work and the issues and intricacies within collaboration practices in article development.

We have observed that you are an active editor in the Misplaced Pages community and that you have contributed in an article of our interest for several years (War in Donbass 2015-2018 period). This experience is of great interest to us. If you would be interested in participating in this research or would like more information, please do not hesitate to contact me through the Misplaced Pages mailbox or my personal talkpage. It would be a great help.

Best regards, Etchubykalo doctoral researcher at the communication and media research institute (CAMRI), University of Westminster, London.Etchubykalo (talk) 09:44, 3 July 2019 (UTC) Etchubykalo (talk) 10:05, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

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Happy Thanksgiving!

🌀Weatherman27🏈 (Chat|Edits|sandbox) has given you a Turkey! Turkeys promote WikiLove and hopefully this has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a turkey, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy Thanksgiving!

Spread the goodness of turkey by adding {{subst:Thanksgiving Turkey}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Thanks! :D LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 21:16, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
No problem, hope Thanksgiving went great! 🌀Weatherman27🏈 (Chat|Edits|sandbox) 22:45, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
It was a little depressing and largely uneventful (on a personal level), but otherwise, it was fine. :) LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 22:46, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
i am sorry to hear that, but at least it wasn't bad :) 🌀Weatherman27🏈 (Chat|Edits|sandbox) 22:54, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Report moved to ANI

Hi LightandDark2000, I have moved the report to WP:ANI#181.161.160.0/19_reported_by_LightandDark2000. Best regards, ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:12, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Barnstar

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Thanks for being a dilligent Wikipedian Sliekid (talk) 03:34, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
Thanks! LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 03:36, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

User sig

I noticed that some past sigs of yours were unbalanced and broke syntax highlighting on the rest of the page where it appeared. This was an old sig, and looks like you've since fixed it, so all is well. That said, you can simplify your current sig code by distributing the bold-italic out:

Hope this helps, Mathglot (talk) 09:45, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

@Mathglot: This was my previous user sig code; however, I was told by a couple of users on Meta that the bold and italic elements "don't like being carried across nested elements", whatever that means. I was also informed of the code causing some kind of syntax issues (maybe in processing or sorting signatures) in the signature window in the user Preferences tab, so I made the suggested changes. My user signature is longer now, but my hope is that this version will avoid the prior issues. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 18:17, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
I know what it means, but I'm dubious. Whoever told you that on Meta must have been talking about a different version that had a problem because this version is fine. Or else, what they told you is b.s. by someone who has no idea what they are talking about. Here is the generated HTML code from Mediawikia's rendering engine straight out of the bullet on this page just above:
  • <i><b><a href="/User:LightandDark2000" title="User:LightandDark2000"><span style="color:#C69214">Light</span><span style="color:#410064">and</span><span style="color:blue">Dark2000</span></a></b></i> 🌀
which has balanced tags and is completely valid HTML. You can put that through the official HTML 4.1 syntax checker and see for yourself. You need to add some required top-of-page stuff and some end-of-page stuff which are required on all web pages (top line and bottom line in the box below), which gets you this:
mediawiki-generated code from "shorter version" to paste into W3C validator

<!DOCTYPE html><html lang="en"><head><title>Lightanddark test></title></head><body>
<i><b><a href="/User:LightandDark2000" title="User:LightandDark2000"><span style="color:#C69214">Light</span><span style="color:#410064">and</span><span style="color:blue">Dark2000</span></a></b></i> 🌀
</body></html>

then go to the official W3C Markup Validation Service, click the tab 'Validate by direct input', copy-paste the code in the gray box into the input field, and click the "Check" button. It comes back completely clean: valid HTML.
You should feel completely free to use the shorter version of the wikicode, which Mediawiki's rendering engine converts into 100% valid HTML; this is the same validator that Mediawiki uses to place their "valid HTML" badges on their pages on Meta. So if anybody on Meta claims there's a problem with your shorter version, just point them to this discussion. HTH, Mathglot (talk) 19:54, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
@Mathglot: This was the main discussion in question. BTW, did you mean that I could use either version of the shortened signature, or should I use the one with the <i><b> in my user preferences? LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 19:58, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
Your current sig is fine, so you don't really have to do anything. But, if you want to go with the shorter one, just use the version in the first bullet above, i.e. this:
  • ''''']''''' 🌀
Of course, you still want to add back in the timestamp part of it after the swirl, i.e., WP:5TILDES. HTH, Mathglot (talk) 20:14, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
Actually, your suggested changes are slightly different from the version that I had originally used. Thanks. I think I'll implement the changes. :) LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 20:21, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Misnested tags

By the way: I had just found that Meta discussion while you were typing the link to it above, and yes, *that* version of yours did indeed have misnested tags, just like the version of your sig that got me here in the first place. I was going to point out the same error that xaosflux pointed out to you in 2018, but you'd fixed it by then, using the same fix xaosflux suggested back then.

It's ironic, because just now in your 19:58 response, you made another mis-nested tag error, which screwed up the page again (diff) because you coded this:

  • <code><nowiki><i><b></code></nowiki>

when you should have coded this:

  • <code><nowiki><i><b></nowiki></code>

Do you see the difference? That is a mis-nested tag error: the last tag added has to be the first one closed. (I fixed it for you, in this edit.)

There's a good explanation of mis-nested tags somewhere on the site, if you're interested in how to avoid that, should you wish to tweak your sig from time to time going forward, but it's basically LIFO (last-in, first-out) like a stack of trays in a cafeteria, so whatever the last tag was, is the first one that has to come off. Think about how you use (parenthetic comments that contain , the end bracket-comes first, and then the end-paren), right? Same thing with tag nesting. Make sense? HTH, Mathglot (talk) 20:34, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. I forget that every now and then. But my user sig involved a slightly different issue (or at least, a different variation of it) LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 20:35, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Category:Misplaced Pages sockpuppets of BlyatPutin has been nominated for merging

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Happy (late) Thanksgiving!

Destroyeraa has given you a Turkey! Turkeys promote WikiLove and hopefully this has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a turkey, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy Thanksgiving! ~ Destroyer🌀🌀 17:23, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

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I'm thankful to have you here as a fellow member of WPTC, and also of your work fighting LTAs. ~ Destroyer🌀🌀 17:23, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
see above ~ Destroyer🌀🌀 17:24, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Civility Barnstar
You've gotten a lot more civil since 2015. ~ Destroyer🌀🌀 17:24, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Writer's Barnstar
You write great op-eds. Use that energy to write GAs! ~ Destroyer🌀🌀 17:26, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
Aw...Thanks! I'm deeply touched. 3 barnstars. Wow! I don't think I've ever received this many at once. Thanks again! LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 06:01, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

Nominations for the 2020 Military history WikiProject Newcomer and Historian of the Year awards now open

G'day all, the nominations for the 2020 Military history WikiProject newcomer and Historian of the Year are open, all editors are encouraged to nominate candidates for the awards before until 23:59 (GMT) on 15 December 2020, after which voting will occur for 14 days. There is not much time left to nominate worthy recipients, so get to it! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 06:45, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Userbox code

Hi! Just wondering, what is the code for the userbox that says you've visited 2 countries? And, how do you create these edit-notices? 🌀☾⊙☈⊙♫ꍏ🌀 18:38, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

@Cyclone Corona: Hello! Well, to answer your question, the countries visited userbox is this one: {{User:Blackadam2/Countries Visited|#2}}. Just add the userbox to your page and adjust the number inside. To create an editnotice, go the the target page, and enter in "/editnotice". Then, enter in the text that you want. For example, you can check out the editnotice for my talk page. (I also have a separate one for my userpage). Once you finish setting it up, it'll display at the top of the page every time someone opens the editing window. Hope this helps! LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 19:10, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
Hi again! For the editnotice thing, it all appears as text on my userpage. So can you help me around that? 🌀☾⊙☈⊙♫ꍏ🌀 19:28, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
@Cyclone Corona: For an editnotice on your talk page, you need to create this page: User talk:Cyclone Corona/editnotice. If it's on your userpage, the editnotice target would instead be for your user page. And then add your coding to that page. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 19:58, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
Got it, thanks! 🌀☾⊙☈⊙♫ꍏ🌀 — Preceding undated comment added 20:01, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
No problem! LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 20:05, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
PS, I forgot to tell you, but the "Editnotice" must be capitalized in order for the editnotice to proply work. Sorry if this caused you any trouble. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 07:09, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

Season’s Greetings! - Salutations de saison!

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2021!

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Hey mate, I know you haven't been doing too great all your years (neither have I), and would like to send you my best wishes for the holiday season. Thanks for all you do, from the bottom of my (albeit otherwise empty) heart.

Best wishes,

~ AC5230 talk 21:32, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Re: barnstar

Thanks so much for the barnstar! Editor retention has been one of my biggest goals over the past few years - maybe even more than writing articles! I'll never forget how welcoming the community was when I first joined. I think that is what has made the WPTC so successful all these years, that community of editors. Keep up your editing, and stay safe/sane these next few months. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:16, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

@Hurricanehink: I agree that editor retention is absolutely crucial. After all, without your editors, the articles will soon go stagnant, and newer content will slow to a trickle. I recall that most of the users I interacted with were very Bitey with me when I started. During my first 2 years, you were one of the 3 editors who actually went out of their way to welcome me and even encourage me to register an account (heh, you even invited me to join WPTC). It was your encouragement, and the support of those editors (along with a determination to finally get an account), that led me to register an account after 3 years. I know that some of our other newer editors have experienced a rough start as well. But we're still around. LOL. Fortunately, we don't cave in easily. I do believe that it's paramount to be welcoming and supportive of all new editors who are here in good faith, even if they screw things up a little or have trouble comprehending our practices at first. Anyway, thanks again. I can see that you're still mentoring new users. I think you're doing great! LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 23:00, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Writer's Barnstar
Thank you so much for fixing most issues in Effects of Hurricane Dorian in the Carolinas. SMB99thx my edits! 10:56, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
No problem! I'm glad to help out. Thank you for the barnstar! :) LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 11:01, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

An Allison for you!

Tropical Storm Allison barnstar
Thanks for fixing that error on Tropical Storm Allison, updating the damage. Hurricane Tracker 495 23:43, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
@HurricaneTracker495: Aww, Thanks! LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 00:00, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Teamwork Barnstar
Gee, thanks for the barnstars! I really appreciate them, they made my day! It was my brother’s birthday yesterday so I didn’t have time to edit :p, though I still say the barnstars. I just want to tell you that you are a good person and friend, and I’m grateful for your support. ~ Destroyer🌀🌀 17:08, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
Many thanks for the barnstar! I really appreciate it! LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 19:05, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Typhoon Goni (2020)

On 2 November 2020, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Typhoon Goni (2020), which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 01:28, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

ITN recognition for great conjunction

On 21 December 2020, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article great conjunction, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 23:25, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Medicane

Hi LightandDark! I found this, which is the "official website" of the Mediterranean Cyclone Center. It looks like TheAustinMan's avatar on Discord! Thus, the source is unreliable, and a reliable source copying a name from an unreliable source is unreliable. ~ Destroyer🌀🌀 01:11, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

@Destroyeraa: That wasn't the source I was using. The website I was using was The Watchers, which I think is completely unrelated. They've been around for much longer than the MCC, and I do feel that they are a reliable source. BTW, I do prefer a direct source from the NOAA database, but I ragequitted after wasting an hour parsing through their database from Hell. And I didn't know that the MCC was actually TheAustinMan. That's actually kind of funny, LOL. Anyhow, I'm not going to revert you over this. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 01:18, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
I self-reverted myself on the medicine page to your revision, and added a tag. Yeah, exams take a toll on you. However, WP has actually helped me control my stress by taking my mind off of exams and onto hurricanes. You might be wondering why I stopped chatting on Discord. I found out that Discord will let me get carried away chatting :P, and is a distraction when studying for exams. I have an important midterm tomorrow, and I need to get an A on it to bring up my grade. Also, the Great Conjunction wasn’t visible in NJ, we got rain/snow showers :(. Stay safe, and I hope you did well on your exams. ~ Destroyer🌀🌀 02:14, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
LOL. I figured. Why do you think I dialed back my activity on WP?? Though I probably should have taken more time off Discord. :P Anyway, my grades are mostly finalized now. One of them is still pending, but it's currently at the borderline level. But thanks. I'll tell you more about that off-wiki. Good luck to you as well. :) LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 02:50, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Happy Holidays!

Hello LightandDark2000: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Misplaced Pages. Cheers, ~ Destroyer🌀🌀 01:51, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings1}} to send this message ~ Destroyer🌀🌀 01:51, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

24.182.9.202

24.182.9.202 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) - This guy is making too many unconstructive edits. I'm on my phone so I cannot use Twinkle. Please help me. Thanks. ~ Destroyer🌀🌀 23:47, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

@Destroyeraa: LOL. :P Well, I think you should be able to use Twinkle if you switch to the Desktop view. But everything takes longer on a phone. Even Rollback. :( I'm already working on it, much to my displeasure. Really? After two months of almost nothing but hard work and trouble, I get this guy two days before Christmas? You must be kidding me. If this continues, I'm not even going to drop another warning. I'm just going to go straight to AVI. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 00:01, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
Gave 'em a {{uw-disruptive3}}, let's hope they understand. --Hurricane Tracker 495 00:48, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Happy Holidays!

Hello LightandDark2000: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Misplaced Pages. Cheers, 𝙲𝚘𝚍𝚒𝚗𝚐𝙲𝚢𝚌𝚕𝚘𝚗𝚎 ᴛᴀʟᴋ 01:22, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings1}} to send this message 𝙲𝚘𝚍𝚒𝚗𝚐𝙲𝚢𝚌𝚕𝚘𝚗𝚎 ᴛᴀʟᴋ 01:22, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Yo Ho Ho

Donner60 (talk) is wishing a foaming mug of Seasons Greetings! Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's Solstice or Christmas, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hanukkah, Lenaia, Festivus or even the Saturnalia, this is a special time of year for almost everyone!

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A Joyous Yuletide to You!

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2021!

Hello LightandDark2000, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2021.
Happy editing,

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Yo Ho Ho

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A barnstar for you!

The Copyeditor's Barnstar
You did a lot of copyedits and updates lately. Great job! Also, thanks for promoting Beryl. Five down, we have Florence, Gordon, Michael, and Leslie left! ~ Destroyer🌀🌀 03:09, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
Thanks! You did a great job yourself as well! LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 03:16, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
I know Florence will take you and Destroyeraa a decent bit of time to get done. I will try to get Leslie done by the end of the first full week in January and then I can focus on Gordon thereafter. Noah 03:27, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
Yeah. I think that's our plan. Hopefully we'll be able to have all that done by the summer, time permitting. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 20:48, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

@Hurricane Noah:, LightandDark2000: It really was bittersweet seeing Michael Met go. It was a good article that Noah and others put a good amount of time and effort in. ~ Destroyer🌀🌀 21:53, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

Yeah. But it's probably for the best. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 21:57, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

Website parameter

Re: this edit, I'm not sure you needed to add the |website= parameter for all of the nhc.noaa.gov references. We already list the publisher as the National Hurricane Center. Per Template:Cite_web, the "website" parameter is supposed to list the title of the website, which is the same as the publisher, and not just the url of the homepage. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:35, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

I like being thorough, though. Especially when the website of the source isn't straightforward (not easy to find for newcomers). LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 19:56, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Voting for "Military Historian of the Year" and "Military history newcomer of the year" closing

G'day all, voting for the WikiProject Military history "Military Historian of the Year" and "Military history newcomer of the year" is about to close, so if you haven't already, click on the links and have your say before 23:59 (GMT) on 30 December! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 23:35, 28 December 2020 (UTC) for the coord team

Happy New Year!

LightandDark2000,
Thanks for your contributions to Misplaced Pages, and a Happy New Year to you and yours! ~ Destroyer🌀🌀 21:37, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
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Happy New Year!

LightandDark2000,
Thanks for your contributions to Misplaced Pages, and a Happy New Year to you and yours! Skarmory (talk • contribs) 23:01, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
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Here

Since you are involved with writing the WPTC newsletter, you may want to check out this. ~ Destroyer🌀🌀 00:43, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

@Destroyeraa: I noticed that. BTW, the discussion should probably be on the WPTC talk page. I'll be copying the discussion over and add my own response as soon as I'm done with Jebi's FAC review. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 00:47, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
Thanks! I'll gladly wait for your comments on how awarding MoTM should work. I'm quite new in selecting someone for MoTM. And I'm sorry for reverting your reply for vandalism, it was an accidental mistake. MarioJump83! 00:58, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
It's okay. I suspected as much. Just be more careful in the future. :) BTW, I have copied over the discussion to the WPTC talk page. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 01:13, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. Also, Karen 13 is now up to 18K USD in damage. NCDC really helps, though this is still considered minimal damage. ~ Destroyer🌀🌀 01:25, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
This is for being such a great editor, a kind person, and a hard-worker, as well as coming up with great ideas, and helping me the great people like you here on Misplaced Pages. 🌀Weatherman27🏈 (Chat|Edits|sandbox) 17:07, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

@Weatherman27: Aw...Thanks! That really means a lot to me. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 18:46, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

:-) No problem, you deserve it! 🌀Weatherman27🏈 (Chat|Edits|sandbox) 18:51, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

LTA catcher barnstar
Thanks for catching and fighting so many LTAs - most notably IP95 and Wyatt2049. ~ Destroyer🌀🌀 21:43, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
Hey, thanks! I'm just doing my part to take out the trash on this site. Someone needs to put up with it. BTW, I saw what you did here. ^_^ LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 23:09, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

LightandDark2000,
Thanks for your contributions to Misplaced Pages, and a Happy New Year to you and yours! EkoGraf (talk) 04:53, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
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Its never too late! :) Thank you for a very nice New Year's card and to you too, have a Happy happy New Year!!! :D

You’ve been trouted!

Whack!

You've been whacked with a wet trout.

Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

You have been trouted for: Not keeping your cool when reverting an edit by an IP user. It happens sometimes! -Shift674-🌀 12:04, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Hmm...Well, I actually wasn't losing it yet. Though I did let out a little more than usual on that one (cue Drmies XD). LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 12:05, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Rights requests

Hey there! How do you request page mover rights? ~ 🌀☾⊙☈⊙♫ꍏ🌀 15:25, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

@Cyclone Corona: Well, go to WP:RFR and file a new request under the appropriate section. However, the Page-Mover and Rollbacker rights do come with more power and responsibility than most of the other rights listed on that page, so I would strongly suggest that you wait another 1 or 2 months before filing a request. You'll have to be able to demonstrate to the reviewing administrators that you have a full understanding of Page Mover rights and the responsibility to handle it. This right is used mainly for moving articles in a manner that would normally not be possible for non-admins and non-page movers (e.g. moving from one name to another without leaving behind a redirect, or moving a redirect and leaving the name blank to allow a page move to that target), and also to revert page-move vandalism. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 20:30, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
Ok thanks! 🌀☾⊙☈⊙♫ꍏ🌀 20:48, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
Also, how do you track vandalism? 🦠🌀𝕾𝖚𝖕𝖊𝖗 𝕮𝖞𝖈𝖑𝖔𝖓𝖎𝖈 𝕾𝖙𝖔𝖗𝖒 𝕮𝖔𝖗𝖔𝖓𝖆🌀🦠 19:57, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
@Super Cyclonic Storm Corona: There are lots of ways to track vandalism. You could go through pages that you know are likely vandal targets, or track pages that log potential vandalism. I assume that you're asking me about tracking live vandalism. Well in that case, you would want to patrol special pages made just for that. Such as Help:Recent changes. I would suggest that you stay out of that one until you're comfortable with finding and reverting vandalism, though. And it's much easier to deal with vandalism using WP:RC if you have Rollbacker rights, though Rollbacker isn't required for anti-vandalism work. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 21:09, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
Ok, thank you! I hope you get better soon. 🦠🌀𝕾𝖚𝖕𝖊𝖗 𝕮𝖞𝖈𝖑𝖔𝖓𝖎𝖈 𝕾𝖙𝖔𝖗𝖒 𝕮𝖔𝖗𝖔𝖓𝖆🌀🦠 21:30, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Tropical Cyclone Barnstar
You’ve stuck with the project for many years, and you have done work that many editors look up to. -Shift674-🌀 15:31, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
Thank you very much! I appreciate this barnstar! LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 20:30, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Hurricane Herald Issue 45 sections

When you will write the sections for December 2020 SOTM, SOTY and your OP? (I doubt that the Hurricanehink interview will be ever be written given when Destroyer moved the year report up) MarioJump83! 01:48, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

I'm planning to start writing those tonight. I should be done by tomorrow. I'm really going to try to get them all finished before tomorrow night. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 03:17, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Well then, here's our work that just got into fruition! MarioJump83! 00:09, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Editor's Barnstar
That's my reward for you after getting back into WPTC after all those years. I think you're going to become MoTM some time soon. MarioJump83! 02:17, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
Thanks! I am very grateful. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 03:17, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

I wish you a speedy recovery. May God watch over you.

~ Destroyeraa🌀🇺🇸 00:19, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you so much. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 00:22, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

How are you feeling? ~ Destroyeraa🌀🇺🇸 14:23, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

You want the truth? Miserable. Even though the pain isn't as bad as it was yesterday. There's nothing like a good shot of pain to remind you of how much your life sucks (if you happen to feel that way, like me).
Keep thinking optimistic. ~ Destroyeraa🌀🇺🇸 15:07, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
Ugh. I was never an optimist to begin with, though. Especially not after everything I've been through in life. You should know me better than that by now. I'm more of a realist, or a hopeful realist. Yeah, I'll probably get through this (hopefully the issues I've noticed are only temporary), but as for my life in general, the outlook isn't all that great. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 15:10, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
Well, you are a hopeful realist. Now that you're operation is finished, I'll get to you off-wiki sometime today. I have a radical but fun idea for WPTC (something similar to the Wikicup). Stay safe. ~ Destroyeraa🌀🇺🇸 15:15, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
....😭 LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 04:18, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Here: User:Destroyeraa/Cyclone Cup. ~ Destroyeraa🌀🇺🇸 16:20, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

@Destroyeraa: It's a pretty cool idea. I think that we should have those every year! It looks like a version of the WikiCup made just for WPTC. I think that it could be synchronized with Hurricane Noah's new reward system as well. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 17:41, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
Hehe, I got the idea from Noah's award system. ~ Destroyeraa🌀🇺🇸 18:55, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
Heh, I bet you're full of creative ideas. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 19:01, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

A Dog for you!

I wish you a very speedy recovery. 🦠🌀𝕾𝖚𝖕𝖊𝖗 𝕮𝖞𝖈𝖑𝖔𝖓𝖎𝖈 𝕾𝖙𝖔𝖗𝖒 𝕮𝖔𝖗𝖔𝖓𝖆🌀🦠 15:03, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you! This means so much to me! It's not as bad as I thought it would be right now (mostly because of my pain meds). As long as I properly manage my pain medication and do everything else right, I may be fine. The first 3 days are usually the worst. We'll see how this goes. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 23:07, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you!

I was sorry to hear about your health issues and the operation. I hope things are OK! What a rough time to be getting ill. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:12, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
It wasn't necessarily me being ill, but the extraction isn't something casual (the doctor said he considered it to be a "serious surgery"). But thanks! Obviously I can't resume full editing activity right now, but maybe in a few days. In the meantime, I'm keeping my phone close by in case anyone wants to contact me off-wiki. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 23:17, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Sorry to hear about your health and operation. I hope you recover quickly and easy. Cheers. 🌀CycloneFootball71🏈 |sandbox 05:57, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
Thank you. I really appreciate your gesture of kindness. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 14:55, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
:-) 🌀CycloneFootball71🏈 |sandbox 18:11, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Some days before August 17, 2019 my ankle sprained (non-sports injury - I don't participate in athletic activity) when I'm walking alongside stairs in my school. It was painful and I wasn't able to walk for several days. Fortunately, I was able to recover without any surgery - though I fear that ankle might get injured again. To see you getting a surgery in wisdom teeth removal is probably might be more painful than that - I feel pain and I probably wouldn't be able to handle it! I have wisdom teeth tbh and I don't plan to get it removed someday. This is why I gave you a bicolor kitten. Bicolor cats are my favorite.

MarioJump83! 10:26, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Ah, thank you so much. But that's not the #1 issue that's bothering me. You see, 2 of my friends on WPTC now appear to be depressed or have come down with an illness. And with all of that coming together right now, it's just too much for me. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 19:14, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
Oh man. What a friggin' noodles. This is now Misplaced Pages's 20th anniversary, and for some reason we all need to get through all of this hell with something happened Destroyer and CF71, including myself for my father's stroke last month. Let's hope that we can all make this through without any of my friends, including you fall. MarioJump83! 23:54, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

45th edition of The Hurricane Herald!

Volume XLV, Issue 45, January 15, 2021
←(Previous issues) 42 · 43 · 44 · 45 · 46


The Hurricane Herald: Misplaced Pages's 20th Anniversary and New Year's Special Edition!

The Hurricane Herald is the semi-regular newsletter of WikiProject Tropical Cyclones. The newsletter aims to provide in summary the recent activities and developments of the WikiProject, in addition to global tropical cyclone activity. The Hurricane Herald has been running since its first edition ran on June 4, 2006. If you wish to receive or discontinue subscription to this newsletter, please visit the mailing list. This issue of The Hurricane Herald covers all project related events from December 1, 2020–January 15, 2021. This edition's editors and authors are MarioJump83, Hurricanehink, Destroyeraa, Chicdat, Typhoon2013, CycloneFootball71, Hurricane Noah, LightandDark2000, Cyclone Toby (editor's pick for member of the month), Skarmory, Shift674, and HurricaneCovid. Please visit this page and bookmark any suggestions of interest to you. This will help improve the newsletter and other cyclone-related articles. Past editions can be viewed here.

WikiProject Tropical Cyclones: News & Developments


New articles since the last newsletter include:

New GA's include:

Typhoon Ike was also promoted from GA to A-class article.

Member of the month (Editor's Pick) – Cyclone Toby


Cyclone Toby first joined Misplaced Pages in July 2020 as I like hurricanes. Since then, they have become one of the most active editors, taking the initiative of fulfilling article requests, as well as helping us work on finishing many drafts we have. These articles include Hurricanes in Hispaniola, Hurricanes in Nicaragua, and Hurricanes in Honduras, as well as helping out getting Effects of Hurricane Dorian in the Carolinas (a long-standing draft that took many efforts to get it published to mainspace) nominated for GA, as of this writing. There are more articles Cyclone Toby is currently working on other than the ones previously listed. Also, Cyclone Toby is one of the kinder members of WPTC, actively welcoming many new editors that edited articles under WikiProject Tropical cyclones banner, as well as inviting some of these editors to the project, in which their influence ended up bringing more editors to WPTC without any invitation. We thank Cyclone Toby for work they have done in the past year, which was a horrible year for many of us, but Toby is one of many bright spots that helped us get through that year. As we enter the new year, we encourage Cyclone Toby to keep up their work and eventually complete these drafts, which will ultimately lead to the clearing of the backlog of drafts within the project.

Featured Content

From December 1, 2020 to January 15, 2021, there were no articles promoted to Featured Article status.
From the Main Page: Documents WikiProject related materials that have appeared on the main page from December 1, 2020–January 15, 2021 in chronological order.

Today's Featured Article/List
Did you know...?

There is currently one featured article candidate:

2018 Featured Topic Update
Featured Articles promoted (May 22–December 31)
Good Articles promoted (May 25–December 31)
Current Candidates
New Articles (Only C and below)
Next Steps

For the next steps of the 2018 Global FT project, we're likely to finish the 2018 Pacific hurricane season FT by the end of the year. Hurricane Bud (2018) is likely to become a Featured Article (FA) around the first anniversary of the 2018 Global FT task force, which will be in June 2021, while Hurricane Olivia (2018) is the most likely FAC next in line. Sooner or later (which might happen before Bud or Olivia is FA), Timeline of the 2018 Pacific hurricane season will be completed, and subsequently nominated for Good Article (GA) status. After that, 2018 Pacific hurricane season might be nominated for Featured Topic (FT) before the timeline or the article is nominated for FA, based on the likely order of completion provided by Hurricane Noah on December 22, 2020 with some changes due to priorities after that time.

We also began to focus more attention on the 2018 Atlantic hurricane season FT, as evidenced by Hurricane Beryl and Hurricane Chris (2018) becoming GAs by the time of this issue of The Hurricane Herald, as well as the merger of Meteorological history of Hurricane Michael into Hurricane Michael (despite the merge moratorium which was enacted in November 23, 2020 - this was made possible by getting the consensus for an exception to the merge moratorium), which boosted the prospects of Hurricane Michael becoming a GA by the time of the next issue or the following one. Our next step in the 2018 Atlantic hurricane season FT, as it is currently planned right now, is to have Hurricane Leslie (2018) promoted to a GA.

In the Western Pacific, the creation of Effects of Typhoon Mangkhut in the Philippines is still being planned out, while Cimaron, Trami, Kong-rey, and Son-Tinh are in line to be nominated for GA later on - and Jebi may well become a FA by the next issue. In the North Indian Ocean, Cyclone Titli was recently created and likely to be expanded later on. In the Southern Hemisphere, Cyclone Owen is currently being worked on to become a GA someday, while Berguitta, Josie, Keni, and Liua are still under construction. For the Mediterranean, Cyclone Zorbas will be expanded upon and nominated for GA, some time after this issue.

We are recruiting

If you are interested in writing new articles, promoting articles to GA, or helping with the FAC review process for the Global 2018 FT project, please reach out to Hurricane Noah or any other member of the 2018 FT task force.

WikiProject To-Do



Here are some tasks you can do:

Current assessment table


Assessments valid as of this printing. Depending on when you may be viewing this newsletter, the table may be outdated. See here for the latest, most up to date statistics.
As of this issue, there are 164 featured articles and 70 featured lists. There are 133 A-class articles, and 1,010 good articles. There are only 71 B-class articles, perhaps because because most articles of that quality already passed a GA review. There are 415 C-class articles, 788 start-class articles, and 182 stub-class articles, with 23 lists, and 9 current articles. These figures mean that slightly more than half of the project is rated a GA or better. Typhoon Warren was the 1,000th GA in the project.

About the assessment scale →

Project Goals & Progress


The following is the current progress on the three milestone goals set by the WikiProject as of this publishing. They can be found, updated, at the main WikiProject page.

250 featured pages: 91.2% complete
200 featured articles: 79.5% complete
1500 good articles: 73.1% complete
Storms of the month over the last year
Month Storm
Storm of the Year 2020 Hurricane Eta
December 2020 Cyclone Yasa
November 2020 Hurricane Iota
October 2020 Typhoon Goni (2020)
September 2020 Cyclone Ianos
August 2020 Hurricane Laura
July 2020 Hurricane Isaias
June 2020 Tropical Storm Cristobal (2020)
May 2020 Cyclone Amphan
April 2020 Cyclone Harold
March 2020 Cyclone Herold
February 2020 Cyclone Damien
January 2020 Cyclone Tino

Storm of the month and other tropical activity for December through January 15, 2021


Storm of the month for December  – Cyclone Yasa
Yasa was a powerful and destructive tropical cyclone that struck the island nation of Fiji in December 2020. The second tropical tropical disturbance, and the first and strongest severe tropical cyclone of the season, Yasa originated from a low pressure area on December 10, to the north of Port Vila, in Vanuatu. The storm became a tropical disturbance on the next day and was given the designation 02F by the Fiji Meteorological Service (FMS). The system gradually strengthened over the next couple of days while moving southeastward, reaching tropical storm-equivalent status (Category 1 tropical cyclone on the Australian scale) and receiving the name Yasa on December 13. For the next 3 days, Yasa made a slow clockwise loop, during which time it underwent rapid intensification from December 14 to 16, bombing out from tropical storm-equivalent status to a Category 5-equivalent tropical cyclone on both the Saffir–Simpson Hurricane Wind Scale (SSHWS) and the Australian scale. On December 16, Yasa reached its peak intensity, with maximum 10-minute sustained winds of 250 km/h (155 mph), maximum 1-minute sustained winds of 260 km/h (160 mph), and a minimum central pressure of 899 millibars (26.5 inHg). This made Yasa the fourth-most intense tropical cyclone recorded in the South Pacific basin, as well as the second Category 5 severe tropical cyclone in 2020, after Cyclone Harold.

Afterward, Yasa underwent an eyewall replacement cycle as it neared Fiji, causing the storm to weaken. Early on December 17, Yasa made landfall on Bua Province on Vanua Levu, as a powerful Category 4-equivalent tropical cyclone on the SSHWS (Category 5 severe tropical cyclone on the Australian scale). Following landfall, Yasa quickly weakened, dropping back to tropical storm-equivalent status within two days. Afterward, Yasa moved in a southward direction while continuing its weakening trend, falling below tropical cyclone status on December 19, and dissipating on December 24. Yasa killed 4 people in Fiji and left another person missing. As of this writing, the damage estimates for Yasa are still being calculated, but Yasa had caused extensive damage on Vanua Levu, likely becoming the most destructive tropical cyclone to strike Fiji since Winston in 2016.


  • North Atlantic – This season, after being the most active on record for its basin, in terms of tropical cyclone formation, officially ended on November 30.
  • Eastern Pacific – This season, along with the Atlantic hurricane season, ended on November 30.
  • Western Pacific – Tropical Storm Krovanh (Vicky) developed over the Philippine Sea. The storm is the third tropical cyclone to receive the name Vicky in the year 2020. The storm made landfall on Palawan on December 19, and eventually moved into the South China Sea.
  • North Indian Ocean – Activity continued into December, with the strengthening of Cyclonic Storm Burevi in the Bay of Bengal. Burevi then made landfall in Sri Lanka a few days later.
  • South-West Indian Ocean – The third cyclone of the season, Tropical Storm Bongoyo, formed, gradually strengthening over open waters. Within a few weeks, the season began to ramp up, with the formation Tropical Storm Chalane, before it made landfall on Madagascar and in Mozambique. After a tropical depression left the basin, another system would form, becoming Tropical Storm Danilo. On January 14, another Zone of Disturbed Weather developed over the central south Indian Ocean, which became Tropical Depression 07 two days later.
  • Australian region – A tropical low formed, slowly developing, before gaining tropical-storm strength winds. Soon after, another tropical low formed, this making landfall along the Pilbara Coast of Australia with tropical storm-force winds. Within just a few days, yet another tropical low formed that made landfall along the Kimberly Coast. After a series of two more tropical lows, another system formed. This low would strengthen into Tropical Cyclone Imogen, before making landfall along the Queensland Coast. A seventh tropical low developed on January 5, before dissipating five days later. On January 13, an eighth tropical low, 07U, developed east-northeast of the Cocos Islands.
  • South Pacific – The first system of the season, 01F, formed on December 11. Within a few days, the season began to ramp up, with the development of Tropical cyclones Yasa and Zazu, with the former rapidly intensifying and becoming a powerful Category 5-equivalent cyclone. Yasa went on to make landfall on the island of Vanua Levu in Fiji on December 17, becoming the most powerful tropical cyclone to strike the island nation since Winston in 2016.
  • South Atlantic – On December 27, Subtropical Storm Oquira, the second storm of the season, formed in the South Atlantic, off the coast of Brazil. The system lasted for several days as a subtropical storm while moving away from Brazil, before transitioning into an extratropical low on December 31.

Storm of the Year 2020 – Hurricane Eta


Eta was a powerful and long-lived hurricane that devastated Central America in November 2020. The twenty-ninth tropical depression, record-tying twenty-eighth named storm, twelfth hurricane, and fifth major hurricane of the extremely active 2020 Atlantic hurricane season, Eta originated from a vigorous tropical wave in the eastern Caribbean Sea on October 28. On October 30, the system organized into Tropical Depression Twenty-Nine, before becoming a tropical storm on the next day, at which time it was given the name Eta by the National Hurricane Center (NHC). On November 2, Eta became undergoing rapid intensification over the western Caribbean, as it progressed westward, with the cyclone ultimately becoming a Category 4 hurricane on November 3. Later that day, Eta reached its peak intensity, with 1-minute sustained winds of 150 mph (240 km/h) and a minimum central pressure of 922 mbar (hPa; 27.23 inHg), it was the third-most intense November Atlantic hurricane on record, behind the 1932 Cuba hurricane, and Hurricane Iota, which struck the same region just two weeks later. However, satellite data suggests that Eta may have reached Category 5 intensity at the time of its peak intensity, since reconnaissance aircraft failed to sample the hurricane's strongest winds at the time of its peak intensity. Despite this, in their post-storm report, the NHC maintained Eta as a powerful Category 4 hurricane. Six hours after reaching its peak, Eta underwent an eyewall replacement cycle, causing the storm to weaken somewhat. At 21:00 UTC on November 2, Eta made landfall south of Puerto Cabezas, Nicaragua, with maximum sustained winds of 140 mph (225 km/h) and a central pressure of 940 mbar (hPa; 27.76 inHg). Following landfall, Eta rapidly weakened to a tropical depression by 00:00 UTC on November 5.

Despite the mountainous terrain, Eta's low-level circulation survived, and Eta retained tropical depression status for another day, during its two-day trek across Central America, before degenerating into a remnant low overland later on November 5. On November 6, Eta's remnant low moved north over water and regenerated into a tropical depression, before turning towards the northeast. Afterward, Eta reorganized into a tropical storm over the Caribbean on November 7, as it accelerated toward Cuba. On the next day, Eta made landfall on Cuba's Sancti Spíritus Province as a tropical storm, before quickly emerging into the Atlantic and turning westward. Over the next five days, the system moved erratically, making a third landfall on Lower Matecumbe Key in the Florida Keys, on November 9, before slowing down and making a counterclockwise loop in the southern Gulf of Mexico, just off the coast of Cuba, with the storm's intensity fluctuating along the way. Afterward, Eta turned north-northeastward and briefly regained Category 1 hurricane strength on November 11, before weakening back into a tropical storm several hours later. On November 12, Eta made a fourth landfall over Cedar Key, Florida. Eta weakened after making landfall, before eventually re-emerging into the Atlantic later that day. Afterward, Eta became extratropical on November 13, before being absorbed into another frontal system off the coast of the Eastern United States on the next day. In all, Hurricane Eta killed at least 211 people, left 120 people missing, and caused at least $7.9 billion (2020 USD) in damages, with the vast majority of the deaths and damages occurring in Central America. Just two weeks later, Central America was struck by Hurricane Iota as a high-end Category 4 hurricane, making landfall near the same location as Eta, which further exacerbated the disaster in the region.

Member of the month (edition) – Jason Rees


Jason first created an account on Misplaced Pages in August 2006, after tracking Hurricane Katrina and countless other storms in 2005. Since then, he has written four featured articles and 21 good articles. Recently, Jason has done great work expanding and cleaning up Cyclone Yasa, one of the strongest storms ever recorded in the South Pacific basin. He is also an active content creator, currently writing Cyclone Meena. Overall, Jason has done an outstanding job expanding the scope of tropical cyclone articles in the Southern Hemisphere basins, such as the South Pacific, where there is, sadly, a shortage of active users. We want to thank him for his wonderful work, and thus award him the Member of the Month award for this edition.

New WikiProject Members since the last newsletter


More information can be found here. This list lists members who have joined/rejoined the WikiProject since the release of the last issue. Sorted chronologically.

To our new members: welcome to the project, and happy editing! Feel free to check the to-do list at the bottom right of the newsletter for things that you might want to work on. To our veteran members: thank you for your edits and your tireless contributions!

A year in review: WPTC's accomplishments in 2020


2020 has been a hard year for many of us. Depending on where you live, the COVID-19 pandemic began as early as January. In most of the world, the pandemic ramped up in February and March, reaching its first peak in April–May. A second wave struck in June–August, which saw cases dramatically increase across the globe, while the third and largest wave began around October. However, during this pandemic, through lock-downs and online learning, as well as the the insanely active 2020 Atlantic hurricane season, our WikiProject saw a huge influx of new editors showing interest in editing tropical cyclone articles. Here, we will take a look at the stats:


New WPTC members since January 1, 2020: AC5230, CycloneFootball71 (Previously Weatherman27), Chicdat, Hurricaneboy23, Chlod, Destroyeraa, NOOBSKINSPAMMER, HurricaneMichael2018, JoeMT615, MarioJump83, Buttons0603, Robloxsupersuperhappyface, ChessEric, Allen2, Mazum24, Modokai, CodingCyclone, Gumballs678, Janm 7, Cyclone Toby, Hurricanehuron33, Hurricane21, TornadoLGS, Iseriously, Jupiter50, ARegularWisconsinite, CyclonicStormYutu, ARay10, Gex4pls, Nioni1234, Dannisom, HurricaneCovid, Skarmory, Moline1, HurricaneIcy, Beraniladri19, HurricaneEdgar, Miguel 04012010, Cyclonetracker, Dam222, Hi 022828, Elijahandskip, TovarishhUlyanov, Animem 1, Shift674, Super Cyclonic Storm Corona, ThePelicanThing, FinnTheHurricaneFanatic, 8medalkid, Vida0007, TFESS, Doge1941, Tropical Storm Angela, HurricaneKappa, KingLucarius, Hurricanestudier123, 2 0 D a r t h S a n d M a n 0 5, iBlazeCat, FuturPDUCTIONS, SputtyTheSputnik, AveryTheComrade, Poxy4, SovietCyclone, Gummycow, Chong Yi Lam, German2k2k, Wikihelp7586, StopBoi, Final-Fantasy-HH, TheActiniumSpoon, Ididntknowausername, Dalandaniel, BrownieKing, Bunny04032010


New GAs since January 1, 2020: Hurricane Erin (1995), Typhoon Halola, 2008 Atlantic hurricane season, Tropical Storm Kirk (2018), Effects of Hurricane Wilma in Mexico, Hurricane Audrey, 2018 Atlantic hurricane season, 1916 Pensacola hurricane, Paleotempestology, 1934 Atlantic hurricane season, 1916 Virgin Islands hurricane, Cyclone Indlala, Typhoon Cecil (1985), Meteorological history of Hurricane Florence, 1929 Bahamas hurricane, 1938 Atlantic hurricane season, Tropical Storm Olga (2019), 1923 Atlantic hurricane season, 1893 San Roque hurricane, 2006–07 South-West Indian Ocean cyclone season, Typhoon Zeke, Typhoon Amy (1991), Typhoon Yunya (1991), Effects of Hurricane Dorian in the Caribbean, Typhoon Sarika, Typhoon Warren, Typhoon Holly (1984), Typhoon Eli (1992), Typhoon Alex (1987), Typhoon Irving (1982), Tropical Storm Bolaven (2018), Tropical Storm Sanba (2018), Tropical Storm Nanmadol (2017), 2018 Pacific hurricane season, Hurricane Dolores (2015), Typhoon Percy (1990), Tropical Storm Ampil, Typhoon Jebi (2018), Tropical Storm Ewiniar (2018), Hurricane Barry (2019), Tropical Storm Bertha (2020), Tropical Storm Arthur (2020), Hurricane Chris (2018), Typhoon Louise–Marge, Cyclone Ava, Hurricane Beryl


New FAs since January 1, 2020: Tropical Storm Ileana (2018), Cyclone Chapala, Racer's hurricane, Hurricane Humberto (2019), Tropical Storm Zelda (1991), Hurricane Lane (2018), 1916 Texas hurricane, Hurricane Willa, Meteorological history of Hurricane Dorian, Tropical Storm Vicente (2018), Hurricane Hector (2018), Hurricane Walaka

Sockpuppetry in WPTC, by LightandDark2000


Due to recent incidents involving sockpuppetry within WPTC, I invited some editors to address the problem of socking inside the project. MarioJump83!


Sockpuppetry is a serious offense committed by various users on Misplaced Pages. Our own WPTC is not immune to this travesty. WPTC has seen its fair share of abuse from serial vandals and LTAs throughout the years. From 2013 through 2018, IPhonehurricane95 vandalized dozens of tropical cyclone articles and created more than 200 sock accounts. For several years, mostly spanning a two-year period from 2013 to 2014, IPhonehurricane95 defaced numerous tropical cyclone articles, mostly ones that he had once contributed to, were major storms, or were storms in an active tropical cyclone season. He also attacked essentially every single active editor on WPTC at the time, and he went on to attack every single Admin and CheckUser who had ever blocked him, in addition to making making racist remarks and threats of harassment. He eventually went cross-wiki, forcing the intervention of Stewards. In July 2014, he began including graphic 9/11 images in his vandalism, which further damaged the image of the project. IPhonehurricane95's vandalism inspired several copy-cat vandals, including one who has continued to plague the project to this day. This is a problem with LTAs and serial vandals – those who aren't stopped quickly enough and early on often bring bad publicity to the project, in addition to elevating the risk of copycat inspiring knock-offs. In 2016, IPhonehurricane95's socking spree dramatically decreased, with the LTA disappearing in 2018. Sockpuppetry on WPTC has not been nearly as bad since then, but sockpuppetry persisted on WPTC afterward, even to this day. Recent LTAs that WPTC had to deal with include Fly High in the Sky and Wyatt2049, and possibly Evlekis, with the later two engaging in a campaign of vandalism claiming fake Category 5 upgrades (or Category 0 downgrades) "from God" that attracted a lot of bad publicity. Recently, some users dabbled with socking, which got them into trouble. With the recent breaches of trust on WPTC and the confirmation of socking by CUs in several of the newer members, some members of WPTC have called for WPTC members to be vetted by CUs. In the past year alone, a few editors who had recently joined the project came out as sockmasters who went on to become LTAs, further adding to the pressure on WPTC. Personally, I feel that the newer users who joined within the past 6 months with a history of disruption should be examined by a CheckUser, but long-standing CU policy is to not investigate anyone unless there are serious allegations of sockpuppetry (with evidence). This policy exists for good reason, and these requests for blanket CUs may very well be turned down, if proposed.

Sockpuppetry is not only bad for the reputation and integrity of the project. It is also harmful to the well-being of editors on the site, especially when they become the targets of attacks. In addition, sockpuppetry breaks the trust of the community when the said offender is a trusted and valued member of the community, no matter the level and duration of the offense. Those editors have to work hard to regain the trust of the community, and in some cases, trust may never be restored. Perhaps equally as bad, sockpuppetry leads to false accusations of the practice and claims of intentional bad faith against both reformed ex-sockpuppeteers and non-socking editors alike. This further damages the reputation of the site, while unnecessarily inflaming tensions between editors on the project and damaging the cohesion between the community. These aspersions also hurt well-meaning editors on the site, and can have the unwanted consequences of embittering them or prompting them to go into retirement. While there are users on WPTC who are dedicated to rooting out and combatting vandals and sockpuppeteers on the site (including some who are a part of the Counter-Vandalism Unit), this is a responsibility that the entire project needs to bear as a whole, since socking is an issue that affects the entire project in one way or another. Editors should be willing and able to investigate potential cases of socking and other types of abusive behavior, while maintaining good faith at the same time. Sockpuppetry is serious issue and an ongoing challenge to the project. Equally as bad are unfounded allegations of the abuse against editors with a long-standing history of being a net-positive. However, together, as a community, we can combat this menace to safeguard the integrity and accuracy of WPTC articles, and make Misplaced Pages a healthy, productive environment. ~ LightandDark2000 🌀

The Renewal and Growth of WPTC, by LightandDark2000


WPTC had its humble beginnings in the early days of Misplaced Pages. The WikiProject was founded by Jdorje on October 5, 2005, during the heart of the record-breaking and devastating 2005 Atlantic hurricane season. The founding of WPTC provided a place for editors who had an interest in tropical cyclones to collaborate. Over the next few years, dozens of users flocked to WPTC, growing the ranks to over 60 active members by 2011. This was the first generation of WPTC editors, many of whom had been active on Misplaced Pages within a few years of its founding in 2001. The first WPTC editors worked hard on improving the quality and quantity of tropical cyclone articles, attaining 100 Good Articles (GAs) and several Featured Articles (FAs) by January 2007. The number of existing TC articles grew each month, with the project boasting 1,000 articles by January 2008. However, as the years passed by, long-time members of the WPTC gradually began dropping out. Reasons included entering college, a busy work schedule, loss of interest in the subject, and retirement from Misplaced Pages, among other reasons. By January 2011, more than 120 members had either become inactive or had left Misplaced Pages entirely. By the end of the year, WPTC membership had hemorrhaged to the point where roughly 19 users remained in the WikiProject. As of this writing, the first 13 members on the WPTC roster can be considered the remaining "core" of this first generation that has stayed with the project throughout the years. But the initial WPTC Golden Age was over. The flow of new recruits fell off sharply, and overall interest declined. WPTC would remain at this reduced level of membership and activity for years to come.

More users continued to join the WikiProject over the next several years, albeit on a significantly reduced scale. Even then, the vast majority of the work done on tropical cyclone articles were largely carried out by a "core" of roughly a dozen experienced editors who stayed on with the WikiProject throughout the year, even as tropical cyclone activity shifted between the Northern and Southern Hemispheres. However, this reduction in the numbers of active users meant that many more articles ended up being neglected, or suffered from reduced quality. The flow of new GAs and FAs slowed down, and new FACs almost ground to a halt. Some long-time editors, such as Hurricanehink, continued to hammer out TC articles, while recruiting and mentoring new members. The second generation of WPTC editors began showing up in 2013 through 2016, including Nova Crystallis, Typhoon2013, Master of Time, KN2731, and me. (I had edited on Misplaced Pages for several years before then, but I wasn't officially a part of WPTC prior to 2014.) While new editors continued to join each year, others kept on leaving, and the size of the roster remained around the same size. On a Featured Article review, one of the reviewers even remarked that WPTC was no longer as lively as it once was, with much of the activity having died down. Working on WPTC grew depressing at times, with some of the active editors moving on to other topics when their basins of interest went inactive (usually when the northern hemisphere seasons came to an end). Articles suffered from quality control and content issues in numerous places, especially articles on storms outside of the North Atlantic and East/Central Pacific hurricane basins, where most of the activity from experienced editors was historically concentrated. Articles for storms in the Southern Hemisphere were the hardest-hit, with only a few editors, such as Jason Rees, continuing to work hard on them year-round. As usual, the vast majority of work fell on a tight-knit group of roughly two dozen editors, most of whom were senior editors who had been present since the early days of WPTC. At times, I wondered whether I would ever see the day in which we would have enough active editors on our roster to bring WPTC back to its former glory.

From 2016 to 2018, more users joined WPTC, including ChocolateTrain, Hurricane Noah, and MarioProtIV, some of whom would later play a key role in revitalizing tropical cyclone articles or WPTC on some level. In 2018, Hurricane Noah helped restructure some of the internal dynamics of WPTC, including the creation of specific task forces for certain topics and also designing a new award system, in order to help motivate WPTC members and also to help coordinate the work between other editors more effectively. That same year, he kicked off a massive campaign to get more articles to GA and FA status, By late 2020, more than two dozen articles had been brought up to GA or FA status, and WPTC saw its first potential Featured Topic Candidate in more than 6 years (the 2018 Pacific hurricane season). After 2019, the number of new members gradually increased, and activity picked up across the WikiProject. A third batch of new editors showed up between 2018 and 2019, tripling the WPTC roster to 60+ active members. These editors included FleurDeOdile, CycloneYoris, EBGamingWiki, Sandy14156, SaiTheCyclone, DavidTheMeteorologist, JavaHurricane, and others. In 2020, the COVID-19 pandemic struck. Despite the ensuing lockdowns and other fallouts from the pandemic, WPTC saw an explosion of new editors that same year. This 4th generation of editors was, by far, probably the largest influx of new membership that WPTC had ever seen. By the end of the year, the active membership roster had exploded from 69 to 124 active members. Our newer members from 2020 include AC5230, CycloneFootball71, Chicdat, Hurricaneboy23, Chlod, Destroyeraa, MarioJump83, ChessEric, Modokai, CodingCyclone, Cyclone Toby, TornadoLGS, HurricaneCovid, Skarmory, and many, many others. The wait was finally over. New life had been breathed back into WPTC. It was almost as if the good old days of the WikiProject were starting to return. While we've had our ups and downs this year, the influx of new editors infused WPTC with much-needed new blood and also helped relieve the senior editors of some of the burdens they've had to bear for years. Our hope is that the vast majority of these new editors will stay with us going forward, even as tropical cyclone activity cycles on and off across the world. Even after the pandemic-related lockdowns end.

In closing, I want to thank my fellow WPTC editors for my experience. When I first started as an IP editor on Misplaced Pages more than a decade ago, I never imagined that WikiProjects existed, not to mention one specifically tailored for tropical cyclones. I had a rough start here, with a bitey reception from most of the others who communicated with me, while also struggling to learn some of Misplaced Pages's fundamental policies (particularly citations). However, I eventually eased into the place and the others warmed to me, and my proficiency in editing improved as I spent more time on Misplaced Pages. The truth is, whenever I came under pressure in other areas of Misplaced Pages, whether it is from hounding, witch hunts, attacks, or other hostile behavior, I've always retreated back to WPTC. Why? Because I've always felt much more welcome here. And safe. In some ways, WPTC has become my home on Misplaced Pages. I've gotten so much more out of here than I had expected to as well. My time on Misplaced Pages helped sharpen my writing (and typing) skills, which was a rather nice bonus. I've also made a number of new friends here (some of whom I've grown rather close with), all of whom I enjoy working with. Thank you, all of you, for everything. Thank you for showing me what the Misplaced Pages experience should be like, and thank you for being willing to befriend me. I look forward to continue working with you all and growing with you in the years to come. May you all have a wonderful 2021! ~ LightandDark2000 🌀

My stress, by MarioJump83


Hello, this is my first opinion piece on Hurricane Herald as MarioJump83. In this opinion piece, I want to explain why I'm not as active as I'm hoping for in recent weeks. I do not plan to ever make this opinion piece at all, but I had to speak out about my issue with my activity in order to balance this edition of Hurricane Herald as well as to prevent attempts at adding my work-in-progress opinion piece to this issue because I'm planning to package that opinion piece with a long-finished but unfortunately delayed opinion piece. I want to apologize for delaying my work-in-progress opinion piece numerous times, given there are numerous issues about it, one of which (stress) will be addressed in this opinion piece.


Since last December, I have repeatedly have been on semi-wikibreaks. Misplaced Pages, as I know it, is a serious business. I was no longer the "nice guy" when I got my MoTM. Stress has been building up as I faced college exams as well as my father's stroke which happened on December 17, 2020. I attempted to break this semi-wikibreak once as I requested to change my name from SMB99thx into MarioJump83 for a breath of a fresh air (some days before that I requested deletion of my userpage for the same reason), and did some AfC reviewing spree in January 2 and 3. But as it turns out, it was quite a failure as three AfC submissions I accepted ended up being in jeopardy, with me trying to save the last one standing. I think these experiences ruined my chance to become a permanent new page reviewer, pushed me back into my semi-wikibreak once more and I had to enroll myself into New Page Patrol School in hopes of getting back into what I wanted. As such, I decided to commit into content creation as I was granted page mover rights (temporary) on January 4. As of now, I'm trying my best to come out on this second semi-wikibreak, bringing myself out of trouble that I didn't intend to participate in and planning to become autopatrolled some day as the college exams are winding over.

Wish me and my family for the best in the coming weeks, anyone! I'm hoping that it will happen after the release of this issue, if not later. By the way - even when I'm still stressed - I am going to wish everybody Happy New Year and Happy 20th Misplaced Pages anniversary! (Don't forget that we also reached edit number 1,000,000,000!)

Write the next issue of The Hurricane Herald →


A kitten for you!

I am sorry to hear that you aren't feeling great. I hope things get better for you.

🌀CycloneFootball71🏈 |sandbox 04:57, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. Though I still am experiencing physical pain/discomfort (not quite as bad now, thankfully), this one is largely emotional. And unfortunately, this kind of pain is much more difficult to deal with. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 05:00, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

I am glad that your physical pain has decreased. Especially now, I now how that other kind of pain feels, all too well. Anyhow, I hope you feel better and things trend up for you soon. Cheers, 🌀CycloneFootball71🏈 |sandbox 05:04, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
Thanks! BTW, I also noticed what happened in mid-December 2020. I'm very sorry. I was very preoccupied with my finals and the associated stress back then, so I didn't even notice at the time. I hope that you'll re-emerge from your dark times as well. I wish you the best. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 05:01, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
Oh, yeah very unfortunate timing with that, which is one of the reasons why I kind of retired. Thanks though I hope I can emerge from this stressful period as well. Thanks you, 🌀CycloneFootball71🏈 |sandbox 20:33, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Special Barnstar
Hi there! I've been talking to you lately, and seem like a really great person. I noticed you have been going through some stuff, so hopefully this barnstar will cheer you up a bit. Best of luck, 𝙲𝚘𝚍𝚒𝚗𝚐𝙲𝚢𝚌𝚕𝚘𝚗𝚎 ᴛᴀʟᴋ 17:31, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
Thanks! I'm still feeling down (though not quite as much as I was only a day ago), but this definitley helped cheer me up a little. :) LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 05:01, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Thanks for your contributions. Always be happy.

Dam222 🌋 (talk) 07:14, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you! LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 19:40, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Happy 20th Misplaced Pages Anniversary!

Cyclone Toby has given you a Misplaced Pages ball! Misplaced Pages balls promote WikiLove and hopefully this has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by copy and pasting and sending it to a user, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy 20th anniversary! Cyclone Toby 02:07, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Hope this will make the miserably bad times you are going through right now just a little bit better. Stay safe, Cyclone Toby 02:07, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Rogue editor

I note that you have commented on the edits made by a user with the ID 82.1.133.50 on the Balfron article.‎ He is at it again, and again. Are you able to prevent him from further vandalism? Shipsview (talk) 22:31, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

@Shipsview: I reported the vandal to WP:AIV. Unfortunately, I cannot actually block them myself, because I'm not an administrator. We'll have to wait until an admin gives my report a look. I can also try contacting some admins on Discord if it gets really bad. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 22:55, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
Thank you Shipsview (talk) 14:02, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
Thank you for reverting vandalism whenever it occurs, thus saving Misplaced Pages. ~~ 🌀𝕾𝖚𝖕𝖊𝖗 𝕮𝖞𝖈𝖑𝖔𝖓𝖎𝖈 𝕾𝖙𝖔𝖗𝖒 𝕮𝖔𝖗𝖔𝖓𝖆🌀 16:54, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! I'm just doing my part to defend Misplaced Pages and the other editors here (when it becomes necessary). :) LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 19:40, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you! - Un EtoileDeGrange pour vous!

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar Les actes de bonté au hasard EtoileDeGrange
Hello! Thanks for all the WikiLove and nice messages; as well as the help. Hopefully time does you better now than before. Stay safe! ~ AC5230 talk 17:16, 22 January 2021 (UTC) salut! Merci pour tout le WikiLove et les bons messages; ainsi que l'aide. J'espère que le temps vous fera mieux maintenant qu'avant. Restez en sécurité! ~ AC5230 talk 17h16, 22 janvier 2021 (UTC)
@AC5230: Thank you very much! Yes, I am feeling much better now. Even though I'm still recovering. I hope that life is treating you better as well. ^_^ LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 19:40, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

A pineapple cake for you!

A pineapple cake for you!
This pineapple cake I present to you is a virtual one. It's a picture of one I ate today. I made sure to take a picture and upload it before I ate it. It's made in Taiwan and has a very buttery taste. Suits your sweet cravings well. Enjoy ^_^ ~ Destroyeraa🌀🇺🇸 01:17, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
Aww...Thank you so much! I love those!! Yum! Now I really want to have another pineapple cake in real life. LOL! XD LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 01:20, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

"Devastator (Ratchet and Clank)" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Devastator (Ratchet and Clank). The discussion will occur at Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 January 23#Devastator (Ratchet and Clank) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. Regards, SONIC 03:16, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

I think I'll keep this cookie to my self.. just kidding. Anyways, I think it's wonderful that your still editing articles daily despite this minor inconviences. Though this may not be the same kind of pain that you feel, I do get headaches like two to three times every couple of months. While it's really not that frequent, it really hurts. Though I also have chipped one of my teeth before. That felt weird. Oh well. I wish you a fast recovery. Stay safe, Cyclone Toby 02:23, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
Aww...Thanks! I am feeling much better now. Full recovery will probably take 5 months, but things should mostly be back to normal for me within a week. I do appreciate the gesture of kindness. And I hope that you're feeling well yourself. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 02:42, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Stop posting nonsensical warnings

No attacks there. Try better next time.—CyclonicallyDeranged (talk) 04:26, 26 January 2021 (UTC)