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Qadanis are not Muslim because they do not follow the teachings of prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) So why Misplaced Pages has written them muslim Anonymous 13310 (talk) 19:42, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Anonymous 13310, because they say they are. There's no reason for us to take sides in this debate so we don't. If you are here to deny the way they self-identify you'll be blocked for violations WP:NPOV.. Doug Weller talk 19:49, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

They we declared non-muslims in 1973. First go and do some research. I am Pakistani and I know them better than you. What if a Christian say that he is a Muslim will you believe? Anonymous 13310 (talk) 20:09, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Anonymous13310, the Pakistani government's opinion on the matter isn't particularly important with regards to someone's self-identification. Stop the NPOV violations. PohranicniStraze (talk) 20:19, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

If he is Muslim then he is not a caliph. In Islam a caliph means a person who rules the province of Hejaz which is in Saudi Arabia. So he can't be a caliph. Please make changes or stop writing him a caliph. He is not a ruler of Hejaz now so how he is a 5th caliph Anonymous 13310 (talk) 19:28, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

See List of Caliphs#Ahmadiyya Caliphate (1908–present). I'm well aware that most sects/denominations within Islam reject this, but Misplaced Pages treats Islam the same way it does Christianity. Many sects/denominations within Christianity reject others and say they are not really Christian, but we ignore them. The main difference is that there are no Christian states where the church has the power to outlaw other Christians. Doug Weller talk 13:28, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Quick warning for anyone here: muslims on twitter want this page to be removed so beware of vandalism on this article and this talk page. • • rslashthinkong (User page) (User talk page) 14:24, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Discussion moved into standalone section & reformatted for ease of reading Darren-M talk 14:19, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

He is caliph of 20 million Ahmedeya, but 24 percent of the world population (Muslims) don't agree on that. He can never be a caliph of Islam. Raja.cj (talk) 10:55, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

And? The article doesn't say he's the Caliph of Islam. PepperBeast (talk) 11:08, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

How is him Caliph of Messiah??? The world knows one Messiah that's Jesus Christ but according to Ahmadiyaa beliefs it's none else but Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadyani... Isn't it ??? Please respect others and keep the Misplaced Pages safe of ambiguous statements. Regards Azmarai76 (talk) 12:16, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

The article states that he is Caliph of Messiah according to the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community, which I believe is correct. Majavah (talk!) 12:48, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

Druth.... this article is ambiguous and isn't clear on Messiah plus it also states this person Caliph or Islam and Amirul Momineen. Since when has he been made to the position of Amirul Momineen ??? You know as per Islam Amirul Momineen is a political position and apolitical like stated here. In short this article has problems and need to be made clear for the Misplaced Pages users. Instead that dubious tags are removed, people threatened and reported for edit warring without any reason. Isn't it ??? Regards Azmarai76 (talk) 13:24, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

He isn't Caliph of Islam but only Ahmadiyaa

The individual isn't Caliph of Islam at all but only leader of the Ahmadiyaa Community.

Regards Azmarai76 (talk) 10:59, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

And that's exactly what the article says. PepperBeast (talk) 11:07, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

I wish it was ... please add who you mean by Messiah Jesus Christ or Ghulam Ahmed. Azmarai76 (talk) 11:13, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm not exactly sure what you mean. Majavah (talk!) 11:27, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

Majavah He isn't Amirul Mumineen nor Caliph of Messiah but if someone thinks so he should explain that Messaih referred here isn't Jesus Christ but Mirza Ghulam Ahmed according to Ahmadiyaa beliefs totally in collision with Christianity or even Islamic understanding of Messiah. Secondly, don't threaten people of being blocked everyone here works for improvement of Misplaced Pages like you I assure you. Azmarai76 (talk) 12:06, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

Azmarai76, I understand your concern however that's what the Ahmadiyyah movement claims so we cannot change the title based upon what other sects claim to be righteous ones because here we are talking about religion which for all we understand is interpreted differently all around Jibran1998 (talk) 09:57, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

They r not muslims Adildar7906 (talk) 16:35, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Plz remove this Adildar7906 (talk) 16:35, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

@Adildar7906: Reliable sources say otherwise. —C.Fred (talk) 16:39, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Remove this. Zaeemansarillb (talk) 02:22, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

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The word "islam" should be removed from this article because its a new religion. As violence is spreading due to this article in India between ahmdiya muslims and Islamic Muslims, because on searching "current caliphate of Islam" google answers "This personality". While, caliphate system had been endend since couple of centuries ago. BilloBaby (talk) 21:27, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

@BilloBaby: Misplaced Pages is not Google. Issues with the search results are a matter for Google, not us. Ahmadiyya is sufficiently sourced as part of Islam; that will not be changed. —C.Fred (talk) 22:10, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

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[REDACTED] Media related to Mirza Masroor Ahmad at Wikimedia Commons

• Official Ahmadi Community Caliph website
• Official Website of the Ahmadiyya Community
• Preaching peace and tolerance in the face of persecution
• Pakistani parliament declared the Ahmadis Quadiani as non-muslim Muhemmedasfandyar (talk) 11:05, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

 Not done No, we're not removing the words "Muslism" and "Islam" from the external links. FDW777 (talk) 11:24, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

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mirza madroor ahmed is not a Muslim. he belong with ahmedi religion, and ahemdis are worst enemy of Islam. so please remove this information from wikipedia. Mr.urfi (talk) 15:15, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

 Not done FDW777 (talk) 15:18, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

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37.111.128.58 (talk) 16:19, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Abū Bakr, also called al-Ṣiddīq (Arabic: “the Upright”), (born 573—died August 23, 634), Muhammad’s closest companion and adviser, who succeeded to the Prophet’s political and administrative functions, thereby initiating the office of the caliph.Of a minor clan of the ruling merchant tribe of Quraysh at Mecca, Abū Bakr purportedly was the first male convert to Islam, but this view is doubted by a majority of Muslim historians. Abū Bakr’s prominence in the early Muslim community was clearly marked by Muhammad’s marriage to Abū Bakr’s young daughter ʿĀʾishah and again by Muhammad’s choosing Abū Bakr as his companion on the journey to Medina (the Hijrah, 622). In Medina he was Muhammad’s chief adviser (622–632) but functioned mainly in conducting the pilgrimage to Mecca in 631 and leading the public prayers in Medina during Muhammad’s last illness.

On Muhammad’s death (June 8, 632), the Muslims of Medina resolved the crisis of succession by accepting Abū Bakr as the first khalīfat rasūl Allāh (“deputy of the Prophet of God,” or caliph). During his rule (632–634), he suppressed the tribal political and religious uprisings known as the riddah (“political rebellion,” sometimes translated as “apostasy”), thereby bringing central Arabia under Muslim control. Under his rule the Muslim conquests of Iraq and Syria began, although it is not clear whether he himself was aware of these military forays from the beginning.

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. PepperBeast (talk) 17:05, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

He is not the caliph of islam

Sir this is not the valid report plz change it Farwa93 (talk) 00:48, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

The article does not say he is the Caliph of Islam. PepperBeast (talk) 04:34, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

The article doesnot say that but if we ask search engine that who is the present khalifa of Islam it shows directly the name of Mirza masroor which is not appropriate so kindly address it KaashifAyaz (talk) 09:41, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

If it's not here then complain to your search engine, or use a different one. For further information see Misplaced Pages:2020 Ahmadiyya Caliphate information. -- zzuuzz 09:49, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

He is not caliph of Islam Sami141 (talk) 13:09, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

We don't say he is. If your search engine does, complain to your search engine. FDW777 (talk) 13:23, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

They did: Pakistan threatens Google, Misplaced Pages over 'sacrilegious content' Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:58, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

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Its totally wrong information about caliph of Islam, Misplaced Pages sham on you. 192.142.195.68 (talk) 01:42, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. P.I. Ellsworth  ed.  01:48, 24 December 2020 (UTC)</small

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37.111.134.161 (talk) 07:57, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Dear[REDACTED] please remove this search results because it hurts Muslims emotions and In Islam there is no present Caliph.It is a wrong information you are spreading so its a humble request to remove it

Your search engine results are not a matter for Misplaced Pages, see WP:CALIPH. FDW777 (talk) 08:08, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

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