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Source code of scores

Libre art source code, have a nice day :) http://libreart.net/libreart-a4/libre-art-music/d/e/esurientes-r.ly SZERVÁC Attila (talk) 20:36, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks!

	The Original Barnstar
	For figuring out the answer to my quandary @ Talk: wp:Middle initials --Hodgdon's secret garden (talk) 08:03, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Btw the RFC's are on different topics. Thanks!--Hodgdon's secret garden (talk) 12:47, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Complaint about your edits at WP:AN3

Hello Francis. An editor has opened a complaint at WP:AN3#User:Francis Schonken reported by User:Nemo bis (Result: ). You can respond there if you wish. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 16:12, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks regarding MOS:CITEPUNCT

Funnily enough, I have never noticed the second listed exception in MOS:CITEPUNCT until your revert. A genuine thanks! — MarkH₂₁ 09:54, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

ANI

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Talk:Murder of Samuel Paty has an RFC

Talk:Murder of Samuel Paty has an RFC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Assem Khidhr (talk) 00:45, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

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Harv ref error query

Hi Francis, I hope you're doing well. I was going through the harv errors on WP Classical music GAs and found one on Magnificat (Bach) which you are the primary contributor for. The culprit is ref 101 (Rilling) which doesn't connect to anything in the biblio. Any idea what it's supposed to connect to? If it helps, there's this very helpful script you can install to spot these quickly, I've been using it myself and found it very helpful. Also, while I'm here, I'll be resuming the Kleiber list in the a week or two (have some other stuff I want to get through first) and will probably find myself coming to you for insight/advisement (if you're still willing of course). Best - Aza24 (talk) 04:04, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

3RR

Your recent editing history at New Schubert Edition shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

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Chopin

Hi Francis! I thought you might like to take a look at this which one of our friends has thought appropriate - I don't know whther you should be pleased or insulted that he has left you out! --Smerus (talk) 15:48, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

@Smerus: I have the DRN page on my watchlist, and was typing my comment there while you were typing yours here. --Francis Schonken (talk) 15:59, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi Francis Schonken, thank you for your interest and for your contributions. I didn‘t want to left you out on the DRN, I just was not sure how many users can be added and that’s why I just picked the ones shown on the list there now. But of course you are very welcome to contribute! Best,--Chip-chip-2020 (talk) 14:22, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

• Hey Francis, would you allow me to make some small changes to your suggestion at Misplaced Pages:Dispute resolution noticeboard/Francis Schonken portion? I'll keep my additions separate on the main board, and you may revert me at any time. François Robere (talk) 13:36, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
  • No. Seems much better you would write your own suggestion (you can of course copy as much as you want from my proposal in the one you write), per the instructions laid down by the moderator. --Francis Schonken (talk) 13:58, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
    • I'll do that. François Robere (talk) 17:20, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

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Chopin RFC

Thank you for publicizing, Robert McClenon (talk) 13:55, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

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Nomination of List of repertoire pieces by Ferruccio Busoni for deletion

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Wer ist der, so von Edom kommt, TWV 1:1585

I have noticed that you had reverted the two edits I made to both the article about Telemann's Palm Sunday cantata from the "Französischer Jahrgang" Wer ist der, so von Edom kommt TWV 1:1585 and the relevant part in the Passions-pasticcio "Wer ist der, so von Edom kommt". The changes I made were based off the score and parts of the cantata Library Signature D-Fmi Ms. Ff. Mus. 1473. They should therefore be reinstated. --Dgljr5121973 (talk) 01:44, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Reversal of Calvin Ayre edit

Hi… I was wondering if you could explain the reasoning behind your decision to undo my recent revisions to the Calvin Ayre page. My edit may not have resolved all of the page’s issues, but if part of the problem was that the page read like PR, I thought that eliminating some of the extra detail was at least a step in the right direction. Thanks. GorgeHoward (talk) 20:47, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

ANI discussion notice

A discussion has been started at WP:ANI#Mathsci Iban violation. You are welcome to participate there, but considering the Iban you are under, it may be wiser not to. Best to keep an eye on it though, as people may discuss your edits or have questions for you as well. Fram (talk) 14:39, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Singt dem Herrn ein neues Lied

Hi, and thanks for reverting my mistaken edit! However, Singt dem Herrn ein neues Lied currently links to a disambiguation page, which lists various works by this name. Should it link instead to Singet dem Herrn ein neues Lied (spelled slightly differently), the original hymn by Matthäus Apelles von Löwenstern? If so, you might want to take a look at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Classical music#Singet dem Herrn ein neues Lied, where I propose that article be renamed. Lennart97 (talk) 16:42, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Oops my bad (last month) → corrected --Francis Schonken (talk) 16:57, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Busoni AfD

I don't know how to rescue that page, but it's a shame to delete a sortable formatted list like that merely because it includes some less significant information in addition to the presentation of the majority of his works. I don't have the technical skills to retool it, but if you are interested in appealing the close or working on it in draft space, that would be a great public service, in my opinion. SPECIFICO talk 19:44, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

As I said during the AfD, imho the real job ahead is to get List of compositions by Ferruccio Busoni, List of adaptations by Ferruccio Busoni and Ferruccio Busoni discography up to notch. If you think that the deleted page may be of help for such tasks, then ask a WP:REFUND for the deleted content (any admin can put the deleted page in, e.g., draft space or your user space), so that it can be "harvested" for such maintenance work. --Francis Schonken (talk) 20:41, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

I agree as to the objective. Meanwhile, @Gerda Arendt: has archived the deleted page in user space and I've made a copy in mine as well. At least the formatting can be repurposed. SPECIFICO talk 20:56, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Anyhow, proceeded with this – which settles it for me for the time being (that is: without prejudice about major improvements across the topic area). --Francis Schonken (talk) 11:16, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

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Edit War

Your recent editing history at Johann Sebastian Bach shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

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Your IBAN with MathSci

As you are of course aware, you are subject to an interaction ban with MathSci. The point of IBANs is to put a halt to disputes between two editors. Such IBANs are dramatically undermined when one or both of the editors involved fail to honor the spirit of the IBAN.

The action you have taken to create Reception of Johann Sebastian Bach's music violates the spirit of that IBAN. I am not the only person who thinks so (@Drmies: letting you know of this in case you wish to respond). An action can be taken that is 100% correct and otherwise in the best interests of the project but still cause significant harm if it violates an IBAN. This is what has happened here with your creation of that article (note; I am not asserting the split is 100% proper; I've not analyzed that, so no comment on that). This sleeping bear did not need to be poked, most especially when the other editor subject to the IBAN was blocked.

This IBAN was placed to stop this ongoing dispute between the two of you, not make it worse. As Fram noted in that original thread that resulted in the IBAN, a topic ban on either or both of you would be tough for either of you. If the spirit of the IBAN continues to be violated by either of you, I think the community would consider topic bans in this subject area as the next step to end this dispute. If an IBAN is incapable of ending this dispute between the two of you such that the two of you can continue to edit in this subject area without causing further problems, the IBAN will have failed and other actions will need to be taken to stop the dispute.

An IBAN means you are going to have to take steps to ensure that anything you do on articles, especially in this subject area, are not things that are affecting the edits done by Mathsci, and that needs to be broadly construed. Please carefully read WP:IBAN and consider the spirit of that policy. I make particular reference to where it says "undo each other's edits to any page, whether by use of the revert function or by other means;". Splitting off a section of an article written by Mathsci, then pointing to it, is to say the least provocative. This was not necessary. There are times when one can see something they think needs to be done but shouldn't take action because of the unintended consequence of aggravating a situation. This, for you, should have been one of those times. This didn't generate a bright line violation of the IBAN, but it unquestionably violated the spirit of the IBAN. Greater caution on your part needs to be taken to avoid this happening in the future. --Hammersoft (talk) 15:05, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

@Hammersoft: thanks for your time. Is there any action you suggest for me w.r.t. the Reception of Johann Sebastian Bach's music article? --Francis Schonken (talk) 15:14, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Hammersoft, thank you: you said it well and I appreciate you taking the time to write this up carefully. Francis, I think you're asking if the calf can somehow be saved by pumping the water out of the well, as the Dutch might say; the calf is drowned. Speaking for myself (I do not wish to presume to speak for Hammersoft), the horse has left the barn (as the Brits might say), and what I would be looking for from you is recognition. I don't know if contrition is too much to ask, but if you ever wish for a more collegial atmosphere that would be a good start. Drmies (talk) 16:43, 23 February 2021 (UTC)