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Please request at WP:REQUESTED MOVES if you wish to make a such a major name change.The common name appears to be Boko Haram and not ISIS West Africa.For a community discussion.Thanks Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 17:06, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

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Must've missed discussion. Where might I continue it? Bokoharamwatch (talk) 19:13, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

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Is this a duplicate of above? Anyway, the topic above is not found there. Bokoharamwatch (talk) 16:47, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

ISWAP - Boko Haram

Boko Haram and the Islamic State West Africa Province are connected and aren't enemies, however they are not the same organization. Since 2016, thousands of Boko Haram members decided to be loyal to the Islamic State and formed their own organization, the ISWAP. Thousands more militants remained loyal only to Abubakar Shekau, the Boko Haram's leader. I think that they should be separated with two articles, as several recent attacks carried out by the Islamic State are reported as executed by Boko Haram militants. Gianluigi02 (talk) 13:26, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

I think you should create and new article for ISWAP.--Garmin21 (talk) 23:52, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Currently, the article is confusing and misleading to the reader as there are two groups mentioned. Based on this comment, I am proposing to split split the article in two:

Boko Haram, led by Abu Bakr Shekau, and the Islamic State West Africa Province (Wilayat Garb Ifriqiyah), which is part of the Islamic State. Both split in August 2016.

See the French Misplaced Pages article. --Fontaine347 (talk) 22:34, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

The french are always ahead of us. Said this before. Bokoharamwatch (talk) 19:29, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Not Jihadist

Jihad isn't terror, terror isn't jihad. There is no killing civilians in the definition of jihad. It'd be more approprate if we eject "Jihadist" word. İsmail Kendir (talk) 12:49, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

Once again you repeat the same mistake you're making across the board here on Misplaced Pages: you argue that your opinion should take precedence over sources. You've been told by multiple users already that that is not how Misplaced Pages works, and you've been warned by multiple users that your behaviour is disruptive. Jeppiz (talk) 13:07, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
This ain't my opinion. Jihad isn't terror, jihad is an Arabic word which literally means striving or struggling, especially with a praiseworthy aim. In an Islamic context, it can refer to almost any effort to make personal and social life conform with Allah's guidance, such as struggle against one's evil inclinations, proselytizing, or efforts toward the moral betterment of the ummah, though it is most frequently associated with war. In Islamic law, the term refers to armed struggle against unbelievers, scholars equate military jihad with defensive warfare. There is no targeting of civilians anywhere in this definition. Since I gave seven cites at this message; you probably understood neither Boko Haram, nor ISIS, nor any other terrorist does not jihading
Reliable sources describe Boko Haram as "Jihadist". Whether you think that it is a correct terminology or not is not relevant for Misplaced Pages. Furthermore, I strongly recommend you to stop claiming others "don't understand". In your short time on Misplaced Pages, you have already received multiple warnings from several users over your edit warring and disruptive behavior. Instead of claiming that all experienced editors are wrong and only you are right, now is the time to change how you interact and edit here. Jeppiz (talk) 13:52, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
This is not my think or a controversial issue: attacking civilians is not jihad due to definition of jihad. It is absolutely not correct to equate this definition with terrorism, terror is different, jihad is much different. To give an example, wasn't there been any organization claiming they were demand freedom, although to they stole innocent peoples' lifes? Can we call these people humane? Can't we say if even the situation of that reliable sources show them as "seekers of the rights" does not change this result. Because what they do does not match what they say. That's all I wanted to and can to say. I end this discussion here since I have run out of my English vocabulary and what I can do. You guys are authorized, and I am a poor user who wants justice. For this reason, I leave this issue to your conscience, I leave here with the pride of knowing that I'm rightious and return to my job. Have a nice day. İsmail Kendir (talk) 14:46, 4 April 2021 (UTC
This user is indefinitely blocked on turkish Misplaced Pages.Shadow4dark (talk) 16:06, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

I've heard this before, but it might not be enough to change it. The maker of the film my brother the islamist met a researcher who differentiated btw the two, if memory serves well. Probably for wiki p islam. Bokoharamwatch (talk) 19:09, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

References

Aliases, alternatives

I also remember they were called the nigerian taliban, the same way those mozambiqan people, ie their insurgents& friends over there, were known as taliban or shabab.

There was a '15 aljazeera docc about boko haram that said it was known as yan yusufi or yusufiyah .

How to reference this? Bokoharamwatch (talk) 19:22, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

  1. ^ John L. Esposito, ed. (2014). "Jihad". The Oxford Dictionary of Islam. Oxford: Oxford University Press. Archived from the original on 3 September 2014. Retrieved 29 August 2014.
  2. ^ Peters, Rudolph; Cook, David (2014). "Jihād". The Oxford Encyclopedia of Islam and Politics. Oxford: Oxford University Press. doi:10.1093/acref:oiso/9780199739356.001.0001. ISBN 9780199739356. Archived from the original on 23 January 2017. Retrieved 24 January 2017.
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  4. Jackson, Roy (2014-02-05). What is Islamic Philosophy?. Routledge. p. 173. doi:10.4324/9781315817552. ISBN 978-1-315-81755-2. S2CID 55668951.
  5. Gerhard Böwering, Patricia Crone, ed. (2013). "Jihad". The Princeton Encyclopedia of Islamic Political Thought. Princeton University Press. Literally meaning "struggle,", jihad may be associated with almost any activity by which Muslims attempt to bring personal and social life into a pattern of conformity with the guidance of God.
  6. Roy Jackson (2014). What is Islamic philosophy?. Routledge. p. 173. ISBN 978-1317814047. jihad Literally 'struggle' which has many meanings, though most frequently associated with war.
  7. Cite error: The named reference hallaq334 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
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