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Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy

Your comment " I feel cheapened, however, by being forced to stand shoulder-to-shoulder with a whole pile of assholes who support the keep for confrontational or race-baiting reasons." sums up why i'm seriously depressed by a large number of people who are voting to keep to "sock one to the Muslims". Depressing but well done for actually saying so at a time when that page is losing the plot.Logan1138 20:45, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Am I a leading proponent of Intelligent Design?

Obviously not, but given recent conversation on the ID page, I'm starting to feel like it. If anyone pops by my talk page to continue the conversation, feel free to do so. I'm enjoying it, but I think we'd hit stalemate on the article itself. --MattShepherd 18:26, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Talk:9-11: The Road to Tyranny

As someone who had a rather neutral opinion on the matter and said he'd go see the film, would you mind weighing in on the matter of notability of anonymous ratingsTalk:9-11:_The_Road_to_Tyranny#4.2F5?

--Mmx1 01:42, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Saving this for future use

XX, you obviously feel very strongly about this, and I appreciate your enthusiasm, but Misplaced Pages is meant to be an encyclopedia. Maybe a more dynamic encyclopedia than most, but an encyclopedia. To create a parallel, imagine if I took great moral umbrage at, I don't know, sexism in The Flintstones. I call Encyclopedia Britannica and demand that they insert a paragraph in their Flintstones article (!) about sexism. They refuse, on the reasonable grounds that there is no common notion, or scholarly evidence, for the notion that the Flintstones was particularly sexist outside of the norms for its circumstances and time. So I self-publish a large tract in which I fume at length over the sexist attitudes of Fred Flinstone, print this out on my printer at home, and turn up at the Britannica offices waving my tract, demanding that they add a paragraph to the Flintstones article because here is published! evidence! that! the Flinstones! is sexist! They would throw me out on my ear. And they would be right to do so.

Writing your own paper on YYYY does NOT equate to there being responsible, coherent, commonly accepted discourse on the negative aspects of YYYY. If such an article were to be published by a reputable cultural studies journal, that might speak to the point quite well. But I suspect that it's going to turn up as a blog post somewhere, by somebody with no credentials worth noting, and you'll have spent a lot of time trying to create (a harsher person might say "falsify") criticism of YYYY to justify inserting your personal screed into an encyclopedia article. If you can't FIND any criticism of YYYY other than your own, then it is logical to conclude that NONE EXISTS. If none exists, it is not NOTEABLE criticism. If it is not NOTEABLE, it should not be INCLUDED.

Misplaced Pages holds itself to these standards because it is trying to be an encyclopedia. As such, it should be a repository of reputable information from trustworthy sources. You can't "write an article" on how much you hate YYYY and then use it to justify inserting your own, personal, unsupported, non-noteable opinion of them in this article for the same reasons that I can't create my own "George W. Bush is a Poopy Head" article and insert "George W. Bush Is A Poopy Head" into his entry. Nor can I go on tangental rants in the Flinstones entry about sexism if there is NO NOTEABLE, REPUTABLE SOURCE to back that opinion.

If anyone with a strongly-held opinion is permitted to alter any Misplaced Pages entry ad nauseum to reflect their own, personal, indvidual and unique, uncommon beliefs, then Misplaced Pages will become an endless series of rants about various subjects, with no accountability and no intellectual authority whatsoever. --MattShepherd 15:17, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Not the first time I've run into this type of thing coming from an RfC - wish there was a wiki policy/guide/something to deal with it....well done keeping your cool btw.Bridesmill 18:24, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

A nice cup of tea

Hello there, glad to meet you. I've begun engaging in discussion at The Constant Gardener (film), after having seen a dispute notice at WP:RFC, and would appreciate your continuing input there if you have time to do so. — ripley/talk 17:37, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Intelligent Design Talk

I'd also like to see your input, i fyou have time Matt, please go here and give us your opinion. Thanks! Bagginator 11:05, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

DEFCON

Hey, I just wanted to help you out with respect to your getting DEFCON after hearing about your problem: the way Introversion is distributing the game is that the Demo and the Full-Version clients are the same, and to get the full version you just need to enter an authentication code into the Demo which is then authorized by the metaserver (the source of most of the authentication problems). If you still can't get the client from the introversion website, it is also available at 3dgamers.com, which is always up. Of course, this won't help you in getting the authentication code from Introversion, but that site is up for me now anyway. If you knew all this stuff already and I misunderstood you're problem, I apologize in advance. AlexeiSeptimus 16:29, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

What do you think?

The discussion was shut down but i'm still interested in your opinion, Matt.

Ive offered the following as meeting WP:V and WP:RS in regards to the sentence in dispute at the Intelligent Design article, "All leading proponents of Intelligent Design are affiliated with the Discovery Institute." The San Francisco Chronicle, August 28 2005 calls Norris Gravlox, "a leading proponent of the intelligent design theory" the Tribeca Film Festival calls Jack Cashill, "a leading proponent of intelligent design." The Orlando Weekly from September 1st 2005 calls Mat Staver, "leading proponent of teaching intelligent design in public schools" and on May 26, 2006, the Legal Times calls John Umana, "a leading proponent of intelligent design" establishing WP:V and WP:RS.Bagginator 05:40, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Frankly, dude, it's fallen into the "life's too short" category. --MattShepherd 13:14, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Jane Hamsher

Thanks for your feedback on this article! --Kynn 20:37, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Matt

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Hi Matt, First fall I apologize from you for the comment that I made on Talk:Anton Balasingham. I know I was too emotional there, and I addressed you bit rude. I'm not trying to make my action reasonable, but these things are happening in controversial topics. Though you are having bit low experience in Misplaced Pages, I hope that in near future you will put your step towards the Misplaced Pages:Mediation Cabal and help editors like us who were stuck on controversial topics to get rid of those. Good Luck!!! --♪♫ ĽąĦĩŘǔ ♫♪ 19:49, 26 January 2007 (UTC)