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Pose

Hi KyleJoan,
Brace yourself, the extended confirmed protection expires on December 11, 2020. Disruptive editors may resume rearranging the starring cast order to personal preference once the extended confirmed protection expires. — YoungForever 23:07, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

@YoungForever: So far so good, huh? Hope it stays that way. KyleJoan 03:06, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

I would say so, ever since it got extended confirm protection. I really hope it stays that way as well even when the extended confirmed protection expires on December 11, 2020. — YoungForever 03:22, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

I would give it a few more days until requesting for extended confirmed protection again. — YoungForever 01:39, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

The disruptive edits seemed to resume, but slow...few days later. — YoungForever 19:20, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

It is sadly still happening. — YoungForever 17:40, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

I'll request indefinite extended confirmed protection within the week. It seems necessary at this point. KyleJoan 09:13, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

The disruptive edits seemed to continue by various ip addresses and autoconfirmed/confirmed account editors every 1-2 days. — YoungForever 21:06, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

@YoungForever: I filed the request. Hopefully the article is granted indefinite protection this time. Cheers! KyleJoan 00:37, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

The pending changes protection doesn't even seem to be working. — YoungForever 02:14, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

@YoungForever: I think that once the pending changes protection expires, it's worth a shot that I continue requesting indefinite extended confirmed protection and see whether admins believe the continued disruption warrants it. KyleJoan 03:27, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

And here we go again... Every time page protection expired, the disruptive edits begin again. — YoungForever 22:03, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

 Update:I had requested for it to be semi-page protected and it is now semi-page protected for 3 months. If that doesn't work, we will need to request for extended confirmed protection again. — YoungForever 09:06, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

The semi-page protection expires this upcoming Sunday, June 13, random ip addresses may return to rearrange the starring cast order again. — YoungForever 06:23, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

Joy Behar

It is noteworthy that you continually try to use this site to support your own bias. The sources and facts that Behar made comments about Tim Scott are well-founded. These comments form part of a larger conversation around left-wing bias in the media. This is free speech issues and I would remind you to respect this as such. Thank you Tony1811

Your GA nomination of Christian Bale

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Your GA nomination of Christian Bale

The article Christian Bale you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Christian Bale for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Some Dude From North Carolina -- Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 16:41, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Thank you so much, Some Dude From North Carolina! It's always great to work with you. Have a wonderful week! KyleJoan 01:06, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Florence Pugh

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Arbitrary removals on Taika Waititi's article

How is an almost decade long relationship a "casual" and insignificant one? What kind erasure is this? I provided two references where it clearly states that they were in a long relationship. I might complain to an administrator about these unjustified removals Helptottt (talk) 08:13, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

May 2021

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Chris Cuomo. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note:

1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Please self-revert. You broke 3RR Dr. Swag Lord (talk) 02:30, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

@Dr.Swag Lord, Ph.d: You did too. In fact, you did it first. KyleJoan 02:37, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

KyleJoan, Incorrect. The first and third diffs are not reverts. I added new text that wasn't there before. Dr. Swag Lord (talk) 02:42, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

@Dr.Swag Lord, Ph.d: Oh, my bad. I presented the correct diff to the edit warring report. Cheers! KyleJoan 02:49, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Btw, good job on Christian Bale. I'm happy someone got that article up to GA. Dr. Swag Lord (talk) 06:03, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

@Dr.Swag Lord, Ph.d: Thank you! That's very kind of you. I've submitted a request for copy editing to the Guild of Copy Editors to hopefully make it a featured article in the future. KyleJoan 07:05, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

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Richard Madden and Jenna Coleman

Hey I just redid your edit in the Personal Life section regarding Richard Madden. He was in a public relationship with Jenna Coleman from 2012-2015 :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lotti1305 (talk • contribs) 14:59, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

@Lotti1305: Right, but a casual relationship does not warrant inclusion. I'll leave a template on your talk page for more information. You also reverted other changes that had nothing to do with the relationship, so please be careful next time. Thanks. KyleJoan 15:15, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Florence Pugh

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Your GA nomination of Elizabeth Olsen

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Your GA nomination of Elizabeth Olsen

The article Elizabeth Olsen you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Elizabeth Olsen for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Some Dude From North Carolina -- Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 22:20, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Elizabeth Olsen

The article Elizabeth Olsen you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Elizabeth Olsen for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Some Dude From North Carolina -- Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 03:02, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for always making the process pleasant, Some Dude From North Carolina. Have a wonderful weekend! KyleJoan 03:13, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

Left-wing bias: please note this author has a very left-wing bias that results in her removing anything that does not fit her frame of reference — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.31.182.118 (talk) 12:52, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello

We need history because we want to know at what time he/she won title, rank of title reign , how many days held King Rudra 04:34, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

@King Rudra: None of the things you mentioned is in the article. We only need to verify information that is there. What you personally want to know holds no relevance. KyleJoan 04:40, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

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Christian Bale

Hello:

The copy edit you requested from the Guild of Copy Editors of the article Christian Bale has been completed.

Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.

Best of luck with the FAC when you get to it.

Regards,

Twofingered Typist (talk) 20:56, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

It looks great, Twofingered Typist. Thank you so much again! KyleJoan 04:54, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Paul Mescal

Hello there! I name dropped Melissa Barrera on Paul Mescal's page because she's the lead of the film, and I don't believe there's a wiki page for the upcoming project. I feel like it describes the film better than just the title with no link for further information. Thoughts? The One I Left (talk) 18:10, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

@The One I Left: The Mescal article links Carmen (upcoming film) and says that the film is a contemporary film adaptation of the opera of the same name. What further information would readers need at this time? KyleJoan 18:16, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Oh my apologies I didn't notice the link to the film. I still think the name of the lead, Barrera, makes sense? Seems relevant and not too insignificant? The One I Left (talk) 18:19, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

@The One I Left: Like I said in my edit summary, Mescal's other upcoming films' leads (e.g., Oscar winner Olivia Colman) are just as relevant, but we shouldn't overwhelm the article with co-stars' names unless they add contextual value to Mescal's role. KyleJoan 18:25, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Christian Bale

Can I just explain my edits please?

@Barrow1965: Did you read WP:UKNATIONALS? Did you see this discussion where users rejected the idea of changing Bale's national identity from English to British? KyleJoan 09:02, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Chrissy Teigen

Hi User talk:KyleJoan, I saw your message on my talk page and decided to bring it here and frankly I'm concerned about your objectivity on this matter. I'm not sure if you aren't aware or if you just seem to want to sanitize her page of any negative press. It has been widely covered by various news outlets about her online bullying, harassment, etc. and her career repercussions. The Associated Press, and ABC News as well as many other outlets have described the term "harassment". Such as this ABC News headline, "Chrissy Teigen apologizes to Courtney Stodden for harassment". Newsweek along with many other outlets have reported Macy's and Bloomingdales cutting ties with Teigen amid the controversy. Again various outlets reported on Teigen's exit from the Netflix show with Variety's headline: "Chrissy Teigen Exits Netflix’s ‘Never Have I Ever’ After Online Bullying Controversy". Entertainment Weekly wrote, "that comes in the wake of controversy over alleged cyberbullying by Teigen." It is always impossible to know whether they let her go or she truly stepped down, but what is known is this all happened during the controversy that has again, been widely reported. To try and downplay this major story is very concerning. This has been widely reported by reliable sources. When I added the content I added my sources as well. This content needs to be restored. You can't revert things just because you dislike what's being reported by reliable sources.The One I Left (talk) 11:29, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

@The One I Left: Thank you for your concern, but my objectivity is just fine. You wrote that Teigen admitted to widespread harassment. The sources you provided said she harassed Stodden. That's widespread? Per WP:RSP, post-2013 Newsweek articles are not generally reliable. Can you provide reliable sources that say that Macy's and Bloomingdale's dropped Teigen's line because of the controversy? If it is impossible to know whether they let her go or she truly stepped down, why did you write that she was pushed out of the role? And more importantly, if we don't know why she isn't going to be on that Netflix show, why did you list the cancelation of her appearance as a career repercussion? What's next? Teigen got a new tattoo, you know? Would you like to include that she got the tattoo because of the controversy since we're including original research? You've been here long enough to understand the BLP policy, and some of your additions violated it, so I removed them. KyleJoan 13:01, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

@The One I Left: All of that said, I'd be happy to talk more about objectivity if you'd like, including how it pertains to the new materials you included on Melissa Barrera (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs).

• Barrera earned praise... Unsourced.
• Barrera starring as Vanessa, the stunningly beautiful love interest... Fails MOS:EDITORIAL.
• Monica Castillo of The Wrap praised Barrera's performance... TheWrap review cited only said she was great in her performance of "It Won't Be Long Now".

If I may provide an alternative to the advice you gave me, you can't include your own unverified conclusions just because you dislike what's not written in reliable sources. Cheers! KyleJoan 13:13, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

I knew you'd try to change the topic haha. Regardless, I frankly have to disagree, it seems as though you cannot be objective about this controversy given your reasoning. The widespread harassment is from Teigen's apology, "I’ve apologized publicly to one person, but there are others — and more than just a few — who I need to say I’m sorry to. I’m in the process of privately reaching out to the people I insulted." It's like you don't even want to look it up. I even added the quote and you reverted it. The words that have been constantly used by Teigen and reliable sources have been "insulted", "bullied", and "harassed". Others have also publicy spoken out other than Stodden. I'd say that's "widespread harassment". It has been reported that she was "pushed out" whether it was her decision to quit or they fired her we might never know. It's necessary to point out that Bloomingdales and Macy's suddenly dropped Teigen's products during this time of reported incidents of widespread harassment. Also I think it's laughable for you try to draw some sort of comparison between her being let go from a Netflix show during a period of intense scrutiny and controversy versus getting a tattoo. Before put this up for discussion on the talk page, do you have any concessions? I've made my points pretty clear via reliable sources, you seem to want to cleanse her page of any negative press. Definitely worthy of a subjection labeled "controversy" in the body, if not a mention in the lede.The One I Left (talk) 13:27, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Also regarding your criticisms of my inclusions of Barrera I stand by those. Did you watch the movie or know anything about the material? I'm not commenting on the actress, I'm describing her character, who is a woman known for her beauty, and the love interest of the lead. Also she has been praised for her performance with Castillo writing in part, "It’s an impressive showcase for Barrera’s talents". There is a longer quote I added but all that seems fair. Cheers! The One I Left (talk) 13:33, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

@The One I Left: I knew you wouldn't be able to justify your edits haha. Teigen said she owed more people an apology. She didn't admit to widespread harassment. It's like you don't even want to read what the words actually denote. Seriously, if we want to include original research, there are so many other salacious things to consider. I did revert the quote. Why overwhelm the article? Teigen has had lots of quotable things we can include. Should we discuss which quotes should be in the article? I'd like to include "pussy ass bitch" myself.

The words that have been constantly used by Teigen and reliable sources have been "insulted", "bullied", and "harassed". What reliable sources? I keep asking you to provide them, and you never do. How many times would you like to hear that your conclusion that it was widespread harassment does not make the unverified term worthy of inclusion? In fact, it is a BLP violation. I also think it's laughable for you to try to drum up a suggestion that she's faced career repercussions when no reliable source has verified such things. This discussion seems to have reached an end. Good luck on keeping the Melissa Barrera article bulked up with all of the glowing descriptions you can concoct!

P.S. Teigen was let go from the Netflix show? Are you using your imagination as a reliable source again? KyleJoan 13:41, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Teigen said she owed more people an apology. She didn't admit to widespread harassment. Do you even read what you write? Honestly I think we should just hash this out on the talk page. It's no use slinging mud at each other. Let's calm the temperature down and see what other's think. The One I Left (talk) 13:46, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

@The One I Left: Feel free to open a discussion if you'd like. I'll respond accordingly. KyleJoan 13:50, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. I just also wanted to add this. The words that have been constantly used by Teigen and reliable sources have been "insulted", "bullied", and "harassed". "Insulted" was specifically worded by Teigen in her apology. "Bullied" CNN describes it as a "cybullying scandal" and "Harassed", ABC News headline: Chrissy Teigen apologizes to Courtney Stodden for "harassment". The One I Left (talk) 13:59, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

@The One I Left: Let's recap. She said she insulted people. CNN and 'THR' said she's involved in a cyberbullying scandal without mentioning how many parties are involved. ABC News says she harassed Courtney Stodden. You say she's admitted to widespread harassment. Is this correct? KyleJoan 14:03, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

She admitted to widespread harassment, abuse, bullying, insults, whatever word you want to choose when she admitted in her apology "there are others — and more than just a few — who I need to say I’m sorry to. I’m in the process of privately reaching out to the people I insulted." In the context of her apology and the scandal cyberbullying encompassed insults. Are you specifically taking issue with the word "harassment"? Would widespread insults work? There are multiple people speaking out that Teigen insulted them to the point of them considering suicide, that is harassment. Would a subsection entitled, "alleged incidents of cyberbulling" work? The One I Left (talk) 14:10, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

@The One I Left: Nope. MOS:OVERSECTION. The description widespread insults sounds like something a pretentious teenage girl wrote. There, I just insulted you. You should report me for harassment now. In any case, I'm exhausted. What happened to that talk page discussion you wanted to open? Let others chime in. Good day to you! KyleJoan 14:14, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

I'm really trying hard here to cater to you. Of course I don't like that description, "widespread insults", but there are multiple people who have considered self harm or suicide because of her cyberbullying so please don't make a joke out of this. This is serious. The One I Left (talk) 14:18, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

So much for objectivity. Good day to you (again)! KyleJoan 14:20, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

References

1. "Chrissy Teigen apologizes to Courtney Stodden for harassment". ABC News. Retrieved June 17, 2021.
2. "Chrissy Teigen Issues Apology Following Cyberbullying Controversy: "How Could I Have Done That?"". The Hollywood Reporter. Retrieved June 17, 2021.
3. "John Legend says Chrissy Teigen doing 'great' amid cyberbullying scandal". CNN. Retrieved June 17, 2021.
4. "Chrissy Teigen apologizes to Courtney Stodden for harassment". ABC News. Retrieved June 17, 2021.

Cynthia Erivo

You must love talk to me haha. So with Cynthia Erivo I disagree with you comparison because The Color Purple is what gained her to stardom, it was her broadway debut and she acted in the role from 2015-2107. The reason your comparison doesn't work for me is that Harriet worked under "film roles" because it's in the middle of her film career. Does that make sense? Also I think we should name Steve McQueen in the body. He's an important director and it doesn't make sense to revert it. There edit I made were constructive, and added to her page. These are reasonable additions.The One I Left (talk) 11:20, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Nope. MOS:OVERSECTION. Does that make sense? Have fun opening a discussion on the article's talk page! I hope you have as much fun there as you did with the Chrissy Teigen discussion! KyleJoan 11:25, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, It's definitely not MOS:OVERSECTION, I'm being reasonable and nice to you and I don't understand why you are being snide and disrespectful.The One I Left (talk) 11:31, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Britney Spears

I may have misread the NYT article but in no way accuse me of "This is false" because I'm not a newbie, so be careful with your language because you do not know who made the edit, and do not know the intention, always presume WP:GOODFAITH. Cheers and good luck. CoryGlee (talk) 19:32, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

@CoryGlee: Huh? I called the information false. I did not accuse anyone of anything. It's odd that you would tell another user to be mindful of calling false information, well, false information. I did not know or care who included the false information (I'll use that description again since that was what it was), so if you took offense to it, then simply be more careful next time, especially when documenting contentious topics such as a high-profile conservatorship. KyleJoan 19:51, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Oh, seeing your past warning of edit war, and encounters with other users I didn't realise you are already disrespectful. Don't mind, I won't bother again. My apologies if I offended you. CoryGlee (talk) 19:54, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

I owe you a huge apology

Dear KyleJoan, you are not a disrespectful user and you were right about what you did. I have (sometimes) some issues to deal with. I'm young. I was never mad at you but mad at myself because I cannot stand/admit/tolerate own mistakes. You are a great user and contributor and I hope you can forgive me for my hot headed statement and work together in whichever article we cross paths. A profound apology from me and looking forward to read your response. Truly sorry. CoryGlee (talk) 01:04, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

@CoryGlee: I appreciate that. I was confused by your original message since we had such an amicable discussion on your talk page earlier this year, but it happens. No apology necessary. KyleJoan 21:21, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

James Spears / Britney Spears

I would like to mention on the articles of Larry Rudolph and James Parnell Spears of their alleged abuse, as well as Rudolph formerly being Miley Cyrus' manager according to Britney Spears' hearing on June 23. However, I would like for you to contribute instead, if possible. Or if you approve of me adding this info, touch up / re-word anything you seem to consider bias.--Thelonggoneblues (talk) 04:11, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

@Thelonggoneblues: I'll try to review it when I can, but please just make sure that you pay extra close attention to WP:NPOV and the reliability of the sources you're reading. KyleJoan 21:21, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Unsourced birth date

Hi. Should I tag (citation needed) or remove an unsourced birth date? Wario-Man 16:54, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi there Wario-Man! I usually remove them out of caution since we're not supposed to include DOBs that have not been widely reported in reliable sources per WP:DOB. KyleJoan 17:52, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, I think removal is a better option when there is no reliable source for a DOB. Unsourced DOBs could cause a lot of serious issues; e.g. BLP violation. Thanks for the help. Cheers! Wario-Man 01:12, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

June 2021

Hello. Regarding the recent revert you made to Florence Pugh: you may already know about them, but you might find Misplaced Pages:Template messages/User talk namespace useful. After a revert, these can be placed on the user's talk page to let them know you considered their edit inappropriate, and also direct new users towards the sandbox. They can also be used to give a stern warning to a vandal when they've been previously warned. Thank you. Firestar464 (talk) 11:52, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thanks for contributing to the articles on actors Firestar464 (talk) 11:53, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, Firestar464! That's very kind. KyleJoan 17:31, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

James Spears / Britney Spears

Can you help me where this article could place in Free Britney Movement? Thanks. -> https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/9595568/britney-spears-recording-la-courts-end-audio-program/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwAR2HfVySPmM4eNmtALAA8SD-QOABaPhK5ttxWH2AZzM-A7hXpGkQT3Ifafc

Hi there Gagayoulookbeautiful! I don't believe the information in that article is suitable for inclusion. It basically says the public was not supposed to hear Spears's statement. Well, they did. It's not really consequential. Next time, please add four tildes (~~~~) to the end of your messages. Thank you! KyleJoan 06:12, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Piper Niven

Hi. Would you please contribute to Piper Niven? Another editor has started expanding the article since yesterday. While their edits look OK, I think copy-editing, grammar, and rewording are necessary for this recently expanded section Piper Niven#Independent circuit (2007–2019). There may be a lot of unnecessary stuff and some unreliable sources there. Also take a look at "Other media" and "Personal life" and see if you can reword/rewrite them in a better way. Wario-Man 02:53, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi there Wario-Man. I'm not particularly interested in that article, and I'm trying to focus on improving the BLPs I'm already editing at this time. My apologies. KyleJoan 10:39, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Pose/Cast

Hi there. After the reversal revision of the Pose article, I had to tell you that I basically disagree with the system placed for the cast and characters list, as it was discriminative and unjust. The series focuses on trans actors while the characters portrayed by cis actors (Evan Peters, Kate Mara, James Van Der Beek) were placed first, despite all three appeared after characters of MJ Rodriguez, Dominique Jackson and other trans/queer actors/actresses appeared first in the pilot. Not to mention that those 3 were no longer part of the series, so they should be placed on the bottom of the list. Can you help me mention this to your supervisors? Gagayoulookbeautiful (talk) 10:26, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

@Gagayoulookbeautiful: Please see MOS:TVCAST and this discussion. KyleJoan 10:32, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Promotion of Christian Bale

Thank you for the promotion and source spot check, Ian Rose! And thanks for all of your work coordinating the FAC noms as well! KyleJoan 20:01, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Question

Hi, KyleJoan! First of all, congratulations on the promotion of Christian Bale (I may or may not have been stalking the FAC)! I've been meaning to ask you a question but I wanted to hold it off until the FAC closed. Anyways, in the source review, you were able to find all those sources citing the other sources (which I found very impressive). So I guess my question is how did you find all those sources citing other sources? If you don't want to answer, that's totally fine. Thanks either way! Pamzeis (talk) 05:08, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi there Pamzeis! Thank you very much! That's very kind of you. The answer to your question is rather elaborate, and I'm not sure how to fully write it, so here's the simple version. It involves a lot of Google searches with phrases often found in high-quality sources. For example, I would write "according to " and "in an interview with " and then peruse the search results. Another phrase I found helpful was "what critics are saying " because entertainment industry publications (e.g., The Hollywood Reporter and Variety) regularly publishes film review roundups using some version of that phrase, so if the source in question was ever part of a roundup, then you can verify its stature that way. Hope this helps! KyleJoan 20:01, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Spacing in refs

The cramming of text around the pipes in refs makes it hard to read and edit articles, especially with long urls attempting to wrap. Abductive (reasoning) 06:41, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

@Abductive: Huh? We could add 30 spaces between each parameter and the article would show the refs the same way, so I'm not sure how spacing affects readability. No template is readable during editing, so users should find ways to work with them rather than bloat articles and impede the pages' load times. KyleJoan 07:05, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

In the regular edit window, I mean. Abductive (reasoning) 09:48, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

@Abductive: That's what the "Show preview" button is for. Why inconvenience readers for something most editors don't consider an issue? KyleJoan 09:54, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

I don't think we are talking about the same thing. Abductive (reasoning) 10:26, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

@Abductive: You believe <ref>{{Cite web |last=Sheffield |first=Rob |date=October 30, 2017 |title=Britney Spears' 'Blackout': A Salute to Her Misunderstood Punk Masterpiece |url=https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/britney-spears-blackout-a-salute-to-her-misunderstood-punk-masterpiece-121525/ |url-status=live |access-date=June 9, 2019 |website=Rolling Stone}}</ref> is easier to read in the edit window than <ref>{{Cite web|last=Sheffield|first=Rob|date=October 30, 2017|title=Britney Spears' 'Blackout': A Salute to Her Misunderstood Punk Masterpiece|url=https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/britney-spears-blackout-a-salute-to-her-misunderstood-punk-masterpiece-121525/|url-status=live|access-date=June 9, 2019|website=Rolling Stone}}</ref>, correct? Well, the "Show preview" button will show you the same (and more readable) version of both, so there's no need for the spacing, which only bloats the article size and slows down its load time. Why make readers wait longer and spend more of their data to read about Spears than necessary? KyleJoan 10:59, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

During the editing, the spacing makes the ref more readable. I also remove excess spacing, such as ...Masterpiece | url = https... Abductive (reasoning) 11:11, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

@Abductive: Then use the "Show preview" button. Thanks. KyleJoan 11:16, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

You don't get what I am saying. Abductive (reasoning) 11:22, 1 August 2021 (UTC)