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Hey, Epicgenius! So here's the thing about dyk: if you haven't created preps, you have no idea what prep-setters and admins at dyk do or what challenges they face. Many editors who are regular nominators and reviewers think they'd be willing to admin, but have never filled preps, and when they become admins and start moving preps to queues, they quickly realize they didn't know what they were volunteering for. A prep-setter doesn't just create a balanced set. They also do a quick re-review on many of the hooks; you get to know whose hooks you don't have to review too heavily, but you always have to at least go check for a recent edit war or tags. If the nominator or the reviewer are new or known to be sloppy, you'll have to do a full re-review of that hook. Often prep-setters have questions they have to ask at the hook, and they deal with pushback from noms/reviewers/passersby for that. Then once you've finished a prep you have to deal with fallout at DYK talk and ERRORS. Admins do the exact same thing -- a re-review, because prep-setters miss things too, then the move (fairly simple), posting questions at DYK talk and pinging involved parties, dealing with pushback from them, and finally any fallout at ERRORS when someone finds an error you missed. So if you think you would be willing to admin at dyk, definitely go fill preps for a while to see if you like it or not. Some people love it -- I did, and I like adminning there -- but not everyone is cut out for it. It's a high-visibility job. People catch your mistakes, and the only way to prevent that is to catch other people's mistakes first. —valereee (talk) 15:20, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Valereee, thanks for the advice. That is good to know. I think this sort of stuff should be enjoyable for me, even if a bit difficult. I just read the project page on prep areas, and it seems a bit difficult to get a good balance on hooks. epicgenius (talk) 15:23, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

That's one of the most fun parts of setting preps. The thing to do for your first prep is pick the bottom empty set (which right now gives you three days to fill it but normally six days.) Count to figure out whether the image hook needs a bio or a non-bio (it alternates by day). Go find one, vet it, and transfer it. That'll let the other prep setters know you'll fill that set. Not that they or an admin won't move stuff in and out if they need it or think another set is better for that hook, but in general one prep-setter works on a set. Then start putting the puzzle together -- no more than four bios (alternating in the set with non-bio), no more than one music/science/military/whatever subject. Not too many from any one country, though 2 - 4 USA hooks will be necessary. A balance of geographical area, not all from English-speaking countries. A balance of long and short. And of course a quirky. It's an art. Don't be afraid to trim or tweak hooks, but read the nom first if you do, as there may have already been discussion. Keep on top of talk in case someone asks a question about one of the hooks in that set, because some people won't realize they need to ping you as the promoter. :) Ping me any time, and Yoninah will often leave pointers on how to improve at your talk. When she stops, you know you're getting near the point of competence. :) —valereee (talk) 15:47, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Finding Sources

Hey Epicgenius! I recently saw your DYK nomination for Axa_Equitable_Center and saw that you achieved a massive amount of editing. It is a fantastic article (as an architecture nerd, right in my ballpark as well). I was wondering how you were able to find so many sources on the building (an over 20x expansion on the previous reflist). Warm regards A. C. Santacruz ⁂ Talk 14:58, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

A. C. Santacruz, thanks for the compliment. For the sources, I used The Misplaced Pages Library to get free access to newspapers.com and ProQuest. There's an especially large amount of coverage on buildings in the northeastern United States, though, particularly in the NYC area. I can't guarantee that other areas of the US or world have similar amounts of architectural coverage. (I also have architectural books about NYC buildings specifically, but that accounts for only a minority of the sources on that page, and I also can't guarantee that other regions have such deep bibliographical coverage about buildings.) Epicgenius (talk) 15:31, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

The NYC subway and the Google street map entrances

Dear Epic, I am Italian, I love NYC and above all the mytichal NYC subway. I know that also you are a great lover of the NY subway and maybe you can help me. I think that wiki is a fantastic thing and should not be a dictatorship! I love the NY subway and NYC stations pages. But there is a problem. A wikipedia's administrator, incredibly threatened to block me from editing only because I updated the old (many of the 2009...) images of the subway entrances, I just put other subway entrances (see the 59th St Columbus Circle, Fulton Center and 42nd Times Square stations for example) and above all I put subway entrances and platform images where there were images of streets without stations or even restaurant interiors...(only for example, to see the Franklin Street station)! I lost a lot of hours (and many nights) in this huge work because I love the NYC subway. I also love Misplaced Pages and I think that is it necessary to correct the evident errors. In many images it wasn't possible to see many entrance stairs and I, with an infinite patience, have updated them! I think that these were important contributions to improve the NY subway page and as a thank you now I can't see the subway entrances of Google streets on the wiki pages... Now this person is taking off all the google map street view entrances of the NY subway stations!!! Absurd! I think that these images were very useful because in the many NY subway sites we can to see only the stations, but my goal was put also all the subway entrances! (YOU CAN SEE THE OLD WIKI PAGE OF 24 August 2021 OF THE 59TH ST-COLUMBUS CIRCLE STATION WITH ALL THE ENTRANCES in the Google Maps Street View section, FOR EXAMPLE - https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=59th_Street%E2%80%93Columbus_Circle_station&oldid=1040487147). And this is only 1 example (you can see the old pages of Times Square, Fulton Center stations etc) I updated and added ALL the subway entrances of the 1-2 and 3 lines after many nights without sleeping ONLY for an ENORMOUS PASSION and WITHOUT INTEREST, but this has been his only answer:

Short answer; we don't need Google streetview links to every subway station. Misplaced Pages is not a directory or a transit guide. Most of the other links in the External links section should be removed per WP:EL. OhNoitsJamie Talk 21:38, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

P.S. If you see this page (https://en.wikipedia.org/125th_Street_station_(IRT_Lexington_Avenue_Line) it is easy to notice an huge error: if you click on the 125th Street entrance from Google Maps Street View (in the external links section), you don't see an entrance in the street, but a platform... And this is just a simple example of the many errors in these NY subway stations pages. Now, if I correct these errors, he can block me. I don't think that this is the right attitude to improve Misplaced Pages... What do you suggest me to do? Thanks for your possible help.

I HOPE THAT YOU CAN HELP ME TO RESTORE ALL THE FANTASTIC AND USEFUL IMAGES OF THE ENTRANCES OF THE NYC SUBWAY STATIONS ON Google Maps Street View! Thank you. A great passionate of the NYC subway. Forza NYCFC !! (talk) 02:22, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Forza NYCFC !!, thanks for the comment. I understand that you're really passionate about these edits and I appreciate that work. On one hand, from what Ohnoitsjamie said, it does seem to violate WP:ELNO at a first glance, because these links do seem like a collection of spam to a casual observer. On the other hand, links to subway entrances (or at least their coordinates) can be useful for the majority of people who aren't intimately familiar with subway entrances. Furthermore, it was a current administrator who added these google maps links in the first place, for example this diff to South Ferry/Whitehall Street station.

I would suggest bringing this up at WT:NYCPT, since the issue with Google Maps links seems to have previously been brought up at Talk:South Ferry/Whitehall Street station/GA1. I don't think it can be easily solved by a discussion on a user talk page, so a greater discussion would probably have to take place there to establish a consensus. Epicgenius (talk) 02:49, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

I can't imagine why Google streetview links would somehow be appropriate per subway station articles, per WP:NOTGUIDE and WP:NOTDIR. They shouldn't be added unless someone can cite a policy or consensus that we make an exception for them. Furthermore, most of the other links I was frequently seeing in the subway sections violated WP:EL (advert-laden user generated content). OhNoitsJamie 13:38, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

@Ohnoitsjamie: I don't object to the user-generated links being deleted. For the Google Street View links though, I think we should check with Gfoley4 (the aforementioned admin who added many of the street views in the first place) and other involved users to determine if they think these links are useful and/or appropriate. I'm not sure the entire section falls under WP:NOTGUIDE, as the location of a subway station and the fact that it has exits to some streets is part of the nature of the subject itself. That's why I suggested a discussion be created at WT:NYCPT, the relevant WikiProject. – Epicgenius (talk) 14:54, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Very many people were enjoying my enormous work to seek and put the many NYC subway entrances. When in 2019 I have been in the most important city in the world and I taken your fantastic subway at all hours, even if I am a huge lover of it, it wasn't easy to find the right entrance and therefore, when I saw that on wiki somebody had had this fantastic idea, I was very happy and I wished to contribute. If I deleted some previous images, it was because in that pictures often it was not possible to see the entrance or also because with 1 only image I was trying to show all the STAIRS and also the fantastic GREEN (entrance always open 24/7) and RED lamps typical of the NYC subway, but also the beautiful NYC skyscrapers on background!!! I realize that for the persons which aren't passionate of the NY subway it it may not be important, but it is however USEFUL. When I saw that the wikipedia' administrator deleted the subway entrances of the Times Square, Columbus Circle, Fulton Center etc it has been an heart attack for me and for my sleeping nights to seek and add, but also to update the many entrances of these fantastic stations! I hope that my old images on the 1-2 and 3 lines can be restored and that the administrator will be able to allow us to put the entrances of all the lines and to improve these wiki pages. Thank you and excuse me for my incorrect English...Forza NYCFC !! (talk) 16:11, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of American Radiator Building

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Your GA nomination of American Radiator Building

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DYK for 275 Madison Avenue

On 1 September 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article 275 Madison Avenue, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the architect of 275 Madison Avenue did not include much exterior decoration because he wanted the building to be "shadow-less"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/275 Madison Avenue. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, 275 Madison Avenue), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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DYK for Carnegie Hall Tower

On 2 September 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Carnegie Hall Tower, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that before Carnegie Hall Tower was built, pianos at Carnegie Hall were carried up staircases because the hall did not have a freight elevator? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Carnegie Hall Tower. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Carnegie Hall Tower), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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WikiCup 2021 September newsletter

The fourth round of the competition has finished with over 500 points being required to qualify for the final round. It was a hotly competitive round with two contestants, The Rambling Man and Epicgenius, each scoring over 3000 points, and six contestants scoring over 1000. All but one of the finalists achieved one or more FAs during the round, the exception being Bloom6132 who demonstrated that 61 "in the news" items produces an impressive number of points. Other contestants who made it to the final are Gog the Mild, Lee Vilenski, BennyOnTheLoose, Amakuru and Hog Farm. However, all their points are now swept away and everyone starts afresh in the final round.

Round 4 saw the achievement of 18 featured articles and 157 good articles. Bilorv scored for a 25-article good topic on Black Mirror but narrowly missed out on qualifying for the final round. There was enthusiasm for FARs, with 89 being performed, and there were 63 GARs and around 100 DYKs during the round. As we start round 5, we say goodbye to the eight competitors who didn't quite make it to the final round; thank you for the useful contributions you have made to the Cup and Misplaced Pages, and we hope you will join us again next year. For other contestants, remember that any content promoted after the end of round 4 but before the start of round 5 can be claimed in round 5. Remember too that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them.

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Your GA nomination of Stavros Niarchos Foundation Library

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DYK for Solow Building

On 3 September 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Solow Building, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the owner of the Solow Building (pictured) tried to evict the Bank of America under a law normally used for evicting drug dealers and prostitutes? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Solow Building. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Solow Building), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Stuyvesant Pear Tree

Inspired by the Stuyvesant Farm article, I created a draft for the Draft:Stuyvesant Pear Tree. I’ve been meaning to create it for quite some time. Feel free to assist or let others know who may be interested. Best, Thriley (talk) 19:20, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Carnegie Hall Tower

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Deletion nomination of an article you reviewed for DYK

Hi Epicgenius,

Leah Boyd, which you reviewed for DYK, is now up for deletion. Since you considered the article notable before, would you mind weighing in on that discussion and explaining your reasoning? Or perhaps now you think it should be deleted?

Thanks,

--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 04:11, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

3family6, thanks for the message. I did consider the subject marginally notable when I reviewed it for DYK, but that was mostly because of the interesting hook fact, and this was more of a cursory search. I might take a deeper look later, however. – Epicgenius (talk) 16:45, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

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Bad news about Rgalo10

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